[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/mu/ - Music


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: fact.jpg (133 KB, 677x680)
133 KB
133 KB JPG
Rock’s death was due to gatekeeping oldheads who shit on bands like Arctic Monkeys and Twenty One Pilots and Maneskin and called them faggots while the legacy acts they oh so treasured became geriatric
>>
>>128100985
No it's cause the new bands suck and don't got "it" anymore
>>
and how exactly did that prevent said bands gaining a new generation of fans, especially when younger people have traditionally wanted and gravitated towards new trends in music and fashion? hmmm?
>>
Young people should listen to old people but not when they’re wrong
>>
Its split between the boomer rock fans and fans of the 90s onward
>>
>>128100985
You're onto something here. Nobody is buying new rock albums or cds anymore. New black music like Hiphop/rnb are regularly bought by fans and sells more. That's why hiphop is still popular and rock isn't.
>>
>>128100985
No, no, no. It was because Zoomers stopped playing instruments and learning to sing. Rock just takes more skill than goyslop like Rap or anything else. So you need better preparation, it cannot be mass produced.
>>
>>128100985
The fact that they were well known enough to shit on proves that they had a fair chance. Unfortunately they were fags
>>
Lemme make a brief example:
Make a rock song right now, chances are you can't you dont have the skill to do all that is required.

make a rap song right now its fairly easy, ryhmezone + some beat downloaded from YouTube thats good enough.

Laziness and just mass production killed Rock's dominance. Its like how YouTubers are dropping video after video almost biweekly, sometimes daily. Slop like Rap (not music) is more able to do this. You dont even need good concepts you just need to sing about how you cant even see your children and say Nigga Heil Hitler a couple of times and thats it, its a hit because its edgy.
>>
>>128101326
> Make a rock song right now, chances are you can't you dont have the skill to do all that is required
I can make one right now with an ai simulating my voice and full instrument set up for a finished track that garage bands would kill for 30 years ago. in like 5 minutes
>>
>>128101396
AI voice sucks tho it sounds so fake and all the same. Rock has to sound genuine to be Rock but yes im not gonna deny its easier now than back in the day, the only problem is prices which have raised but there is also more instrumental alternatives which are cheap or you can buy used. So in a way it balances itself.

I still think its laziness from the new generations Millennials were the last ones that tried.
>>
Only complete retards will believe your bullshit
>rock is le dead because rap is too easy to make
It doesn’t even make sense like wtf it has nothing to do with it at all
>>
>you should just accept shitty music because it's labeled as "Rock"
>just have no standards
Why? If no one can write a catchy guitar riff that makes kids wanna pick up guitars to learn how to play it then the genre is dead as far as I'm concerned
The last decent rock acts were pre-vulgaris QOTSA and White Stripes btw
>>
>>128101287
This guy knows what’s up. I wouldn’t say that’s the whole thing but it’s definitely a big part of the equation
>>
>>128101458
It definitely is. Actual smart people know and get that vibes and intuition conclusion. its like the dimwit, mitwit, high IQ meme bell curve.

Rock just takes more time to cook and long cooking is not what most Record Labels want. They want you to be popping slop year after year quick.
The advantage of Rock is touring, you literally need 1 solid (it can be half mid) album and you are set you can tour on a van because people will show up to listen to you if you sound good and are entertaining enough and thats awesome but touring sucks, the concerts tho rock, it's super whole some to see so many cool people connecting, changing contacts, you have a fuck ton of friends. Also you pull mad cunny as a Rockstar, unlike Rap where there is no cunny its a sausage fest and the women that show up is literal hoes4pay from the hood. Rock It's hella fun because everything is grassroots and from the burbs even the cunny.
>>
>>128100985
Well... it is true... the description of the bands i mean... they are very limp wristed to be called rock
>>
“Rock” isn’t a real genre. Unless you just use it as a blanket description for any music that has..guitars and drum kits?
>>
>>128103908
are you saying you see people calling funk songs "rock"?
>>
>>128100985
Boomers loved Måneskin though. They were all excited because
>the youths are doing rock again
Too bad Måneskin is one of the shittiest bands in recorded music history.
Twenty One Pilots are faggots though. The boomers were right about them.
>>
>>128103919
Please define the term “rock” without employing negative language such as “rock is not xyz.” Instead, explicitly state what it is. I am genuinely interested in your response.
>>
>twenty one pilots

they dont even have a guitar player

>manskin

greta van fleet rehash
>>
no it was 'cause Cobain made being an anti-rock star cool so all the cool people decided to remain underground and the only people willing to be mainstream were total cornballs like Blink 182, Nickelback, the Vines etc.
>>
>>128103957
to be honest i haven't really given "defining" what rock is much thought, i normally just hear a song and go "that's" rock, and i was mostly curious about what i asked because it's not like i see people calling anything with guitars and drumkits as rock. but if i had to ... i dunno, maybe a focus on distorted guitars/organs and upbeat or "hard" rhythmic sections, often with riffs that serve as a secondary hook. i'm sure that would end up catching many songs that aren't generally considered "rock" but it's what i can think of right now.
>>
>>128100985
Rock's death was due to being creatively exhausted after decades of being on top. It had a much longer run than jazz did before rock replaced it. Get over it.
>>
>>128103969
Also that applied to other genres like pop, HH, etc that also got taken over by giga cornballs the result being Britney and bling rap. This entire industry ethos developed over the 90s that cool people weren't supposed to be on the Billboard and it kind of ruined music in general.
>>
Nirvana killed American rock and Radiohead killed British rock. Too sad and low test. Good music that had bad effects on the population.
>>
21 pilots are legit a disastrously bad act though
>>
File: (You).jpg (784 KB, 1170x1237)
784 KB
784 KB JPG
>>128104039
I disagree sadness is good to vent and pessimism has a place in art and helps as a purging mechanism for the artist. Blues and all that started Sad. Music can express all kinds of energy and moods. That being said we been getting a lot of pessimism and not everyone is great at expressing this in the most aesthetic way possible, good lyricists and singers are needed for it.

>>128104000
Call me delusional but i still think Rock can revive. The crave is there not as mainstream as it once was but who cares about being the main attraction, there is such thing as enough money, more money doesn't improve the quality of what you can produce.
>>
>>128101396
Go on then
>>
>>128101326
rock doesn't take more skill than rap. you just need a couple power chords and a basic drum beat. the equipment does cost more money however, which is why rap is easier to get into.
>>
>>128104128
i would say it takes more skill since a completely inexperienced person making rock will sound all kinds of bad (poor timing, shitty tone, lack of variety in the song) but a completely inexperienced person making rap can still pull through (there's a lot of people who will take you just talking with a deadpan tone with the vaguest sense of rhythm and enjoy it, and you can just make a 4 second beat in garageband/fl studio that will work just fine). entry barrier is lower for rap, even leaving equipment aside, so it's way less discouraging to keep trying at rap than it is to rock, is what i think.
>>
File: 10d.png (111 KB, 977x848)
111 KB
111 KB PNG
There was a recession during the 2000's and people are poor. Good luck practicing when none of your friends have a garage or even a backyard.
>>
>>128104128
No, it defnitely does are you retarded? You can do genuine Rap solo. But you cannot do genuine Rock solo. Rock ain't as hard as Symphonic music (altho i can be Symphoic) but cmon apples and oranges.

Even that bassist from Paramore Jeremy can make Rap because it's so easy, altho he works for the price of weed. You dont have to have a singing voice, or instrumental knowledge at most a Keyboard if you want to make your own "samples". You don't need to know any theory.

In comparison learning guitar and to sing is much harder its something that takes several days to train.

Anyway these days algorithms and shit like that reward more mass production, even if its low effort slop which is why I'm pretty sure one of the main reasons why Rock aint as popular. That Rapper Bones has so many, SO MANY shitty tracks even he would admit this because there was a time when he was doing exactly this just mass producing slop for the algorithms.
>>
>>128103957
bro, we define almost everything from what it is not. An apple is a fruit that is not any other kind of fruit. The number 2 is a number that is not any other kind of number
>>
>>128101287
True
>>
people say rock is too expensive, but then ignore country music still topping the charts and country music uses the same instruments as rock, there is no logic in this argument

People also say "rock is old", well country music is even fucking older.


People love to come up with excuses as to why rock is on the decline, rock is still the highest selling genre despite 15 years of poptmism and jews gaming the system by combining the sales of rap and R&B to make it seem like rap is more popular

there just seems to be a bias against rock in the music business for whatever reason, this all occurred around the same time all media got super pozzed, so im going to assume its because rock music was dominated by white men
>>
>>128104275
every single house in the world has an old acoustic guitar, not every house has an electric guitar let alone a goddamn drumkit. also the argument wasn't that it's too expensive, it was that it was more expensive than rap, a "rival" genre that (anons say) because it's way cheaper to dive into as a writer.

but you're not wrong about the last part. people still clearly love rock.
>>
>>128104290
you are a fucking idiot, look at a band like the white stripes, a guy with a guitar and a girl on the drums, its was the most simple thing in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J2QdDbelmY&list=RD0J2QdDbelmY&start_radio=1
>>
it took me a few minutes to realize you weren't talking about the death of the famous pro wrestler Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
>>
>>128104314
>look at a band with an electric guitar and a drumkit, the exact 2 things you already said are way less common than an acoustic guitar, all you realistically need for country
ok?
>>
>>128104314
Recreating TWS's sound with a guitar and drums also requires you having a bass pedal, unless you think a song without low-end sounds good.
>>
>>128104348
no octave pedal here
https://youtu.be/Q2kVgBegKL4?si=etduCVnvQf-SD5uc
.
>>
>>128104315
Don't worry, nigga's so roided up it's gonna happen soon.
>>
>>128100985
It's the same thing with Hollywood, bad writing. The composition has taken a back seat to the production.
>>
>>128100985
rock is not dead
>>
>>128103969
This isn’t true it’s only people think this way because they don’t know who the new rock stars are, like Justin Hawkins for eg he’s a total rockstar
>>
File: 0_AGUc4lmbI6y28sy3.png (464 KB, 602x600)
464 KB
464 KB PNG
>>128104494
Holy shit i thought it was satire / a meme but i reverse image searched this with the 4chan built in feature and its real somebody genuinely made this. Lol...

I'm not saying this fag is ugly, he has frontman potential if he learns to sing well but his name is retarded & I don't think he will "save rock". It takes more than that. The rock community must be rebuilt thats all, this is a collective effort of YouTubers, /mu/, instrumentalists, vocalists, anyone interested. I wont be as big as it was in the 70s though, impossible. So don't aim that high, have less hubris.

Get your friends and start a band, how it has always been.
some people will judge me for
>pic related
but thats unironically what must be done, that but in whatever form is the most optimal
>>
>>128104549
>Get your friends and start a band
no one plays instruments anymore
>>
>>128104555
then you will have to learn
>>
It's been said rock was dead many times in the past, before the 90s. And then something new came up and there was a new viable way, a new sound.
Everything has been so poisoned by irony since the early 00s, when rock went retro. It became uncool to stand for something, to want and express something, it all had to be indirect, a wink, a larp.

No wonder rock withered in such a culture that shunned strength and displaying willpower and put weakness and affectation on a pedestal. That's why if there was still any listenable rock it was mostly downcast. It was the only way to express strength in feeling, in a negative way. Anything else just adopted the poptimist escapist recipe of reality denial, of putting on a front of exuberance that didn't match what people actually went through.
>>
>>128104593
i have, but one man does not a band make.
>>
>>128104602
just compose everything and be the frontman and hire random people to play the other instruments live.
>>
>>128104614
>hire
sure, i'll just dip into my substantial trust fund...
>>
Why is there never a single good thread that has a frog/Wojak OP?
>>
>>128104633
true I get what you mean. Yeah the situation is kinda fucked lol. I mean potentially you could meet people from 4chan but i dont think the band dynamics would work out.

making Rock is indeed harder, you can be the instrumentalist even the singer but in the end if you are alone all you can do is be a Folk / Country singer with his guitar like some Hobos do. This proves without a doubt that Rock is not an easy genre to make, its literally nearly impossible alone.
>>
>>128104661
take it easy and stop whining, just make your own threads if you want "quality threads" and leave them there eventually anons will notice.
>>
>>128104661
It’s a mark of quality assurance
>>
>>128104661
you're supposed to completely ignore OP and start your own discussions. for instance, OP wants to pretend it's about gatekeeping but the majority of the thread has focused on rock being not as accessible/affordable to get started on as other popular genres of today.
>>
Rock died because of the me too movement when they where done promoting newer male artists
>>
>>128104949
we already solved the question, because Nirvana made it uncool to be a rock star so the only people who wanted to were lame as fuck
>>
File: 1742782822743684.png (202 KB, 512x509)
202 KB
202 KB PNG
>>128100985
it's the internet and video games. boredom is necessary for creativity (fact)
>>
I think radio execs being greedy risk averse fucks who only play the safest, most done to death rock from 50 years ago (+ some token Imagine Dragons or whatever) is what really killed it.
>>
>>128105061
blame clearchannel/iheartradio
>>
>>128105061
There are four rock stations in my town and it's like they only have 200 songs between them. Funny thing is that they'll play anything considered "rock" and "popular" so you'll have Uriah Heep followed by Linkin Park.
>>
>>128100985
Rock died because 1 nigga with a computer is easier to handle than 5 faggots and some instruments. Why make a million dollars with 5 separate contracts, personalities, and skills when you can make a million+ with just one retard. Eminem made rap cool for whites to listen to and after that it was over with.
>>
>>128105133
I love the whiplash of hearing The Offspring followed by one of the softer Metallica songs (obligatory) followed by an ad break where they play the intro to half a dozen songs in 20 seconds followed by Nickelback before it cuts back to Twisted Sister
>>
>>128104978
Rob Zombie is a pseud and a retard actually
>>
Maneskin are good but i adore all that euro cheese trash shit so I'm probably biased
>>
>>128105173
No that's wrong. Rap was always cool for everyone since the very beginning it was never a racial thing it's just that it started in the hoods in nyc which were predominantly black but it was never exclusionary and there were white rappers before Eminem.
Maybe for you Eminem made rap cool idk but I'm just saying what actually happened
>>
>>128105295
Vocals are trash. Makes them unlistenable.
>>
>>128105317
Well I also love Jane's Addiction and everyone thinks that guy shrieks like a banshee so maybe i just have high tolerance for shit vocals
>>
If you had the power and money to do so, which band or type of rock music would you use to spark public interest in the genre again?
>>
>>128105499
no one here listens to new music
>>
>>128105499
Prog or Rush for bands specifically. I like their brand of prog
>>
>>128105306
Rap stopped being cool after the 90s.
>>
>>128105499
modern bands? i like black pistol fire.
>>
>>128105499
i always had this idea to push extreme metal into the mainstream. its never been done before, black metal, death metal, power violence, grindcore, screamo, etc the most abrasive forms of guitar music. and do it without watering it down.

people wouldnt know what the fuck was happening anymore. poptimists would be crying because the top of the charts would be deafheavan instead of taylor swift

Metal is still appealing to teens because it scares old people and normies too
>>
>>128105584
>and do it without watering it down.
impossible. only time metal gets popular it is when it is watered down. see: glam metal, nu metal, metalcore
>>
>>128104978
How did Nirvana made it uncool to be a rockstar? Kurt didn't look particularly ordinary, he had a unique blend of traits, angelic face, charismatic, supertalented. It's a mix that is very rare and could appear once several decades
>>
>>128105705
not impossible, alt rock being mainstream was a contradiction but nirvana made it happen.

Anyways, this is just throwing ideas out there.

Imagine gen alpha listens to shit like orchid instead of mumble rap and pop slut number 90000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEr8sPw2J0&list=RDTrEr8sPw2J0&start_radio=1

how kino would that be
>>
>>128105173
The economic argument played a role but it wasn't decisive.
I think the most impactful factor was that culture was too paranoid about someone speaking their true mind. Same thing happened with comedy, it got killed by basically not being able to make fun of anyone in particular without having a backlash.

Rock was about being honest, even harsh, raw, taking risks, being abrasive. If the culture is too accommodating, too protective and careful not to step on some holy cows, it stifles courageous attitudes, saying things that could truly shake the ground.
>>
>>128105791
>how kino would that be
Not very desu
>>
>>128105510
There's new interesting music in the shill threads
>>
>>128105584
It can't be done because to enjoy that kind of music you have to tune yourself into it. It's like drinking vinegar and most people who buy music aren't going to drink vinegar no matter how much you convince them it'll start tasting ok once you get used to it.
I used to sell merch for a friend of a friends death metal band and that scene scene also doesn't have fans with much money to support it
>>
>>128105800
Basically picrel is why rock 'died'.
Courage and risk stopped being virtues, they got replaced by being phony, having an image, doing a larp act, playing some sort of sophisticated meta-cultural game with ghosts from the past
>>
>>128105934
Well this only works for post-60s rock.
But 50s rock was very phony and it worked because it was upbeat, entertaining and danceable
>>
>>128105800
>saying things that could truly shake the ground.

The thing is that in the wake of the 2008 financial crash, the whole social paradigm changed. The youth became much more concerned with cost of living.
Some of them even had to move back with their parents becaue they couldn't afford to pay rent.
In such an economically risky environment in which the youth tries to stick to safety, it becomes near impossible to have cultural rebellion and a counterculture.

That's what millennials tries with OWS, but it failed because they got outplayed by the megacorps who embraced woke policies and sedated the youth's spirit of rebellion.

Rebellion was just not worth the risk anymore. Because jobs were much harder to come by than back in the 60s.
>>
>>128105889
the guy was asking what you would do if you had money and power to promote rock again, and i think extreme metal is perfect, i think screamo and grindcore is perfect

1. it scares normies and adults
2. its never been mainstream
3. it would be new and refreshing instead of imagine dragons slop or greta van fleet rehashes
>>
>>128106029
Life is already stressful as it is, who needs to listen to autistic screeching in the form of metal
>>
>>128100985
Every single band you listed sucks
>>
>>128100985
Måneskin is genuinely one of the shittiest bands I have ever heard in my life
>>
>>128105791
there are thousands of zoomee screamo bands
>>
>>128106048
people go on online cod lobbies to yell and get yelled at and that's their way of "blowing off steam". someone screaming at you (forma de música) would arguably be better.
>>
>>128106256
See that's where you're wrong
>>
>>128104275
>bias against rock in the music business for whatever reason
>im going to assume its because rock music was dominated by white men
hit the nail on the head right here
>>
>>128106022
yes the 70s had a thriving economy and a lot of hope and opportunity i'm sure
>>
>>128100985
Oldheads always shit on Greta Van Fleet. At least they are trying.
>>
>>128100985
Retarded take, it's because rock needs more effort than rap
>>
>>128107746
even the shit economy of the 70s was more equitable than today's. we are so far gone, dude.
>>
>>128107753
my dad was praising them because "it's one thing being told you sound exactly like another band and another thing being told you sound exactly like led motherfucking zeppelin" and was thoroughly enjoying them at first, but he eventually got bored of how samey they got after a few listens.
>>
>>128100985
>arctic monkeys
>twenty one pilots
>maneskin
all better than the average boomer band
>>
>>128105934
Millenials are inherently risk adverse, it's simply congenital to the generation's mindset.
>>
>>128107746
https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1980?amount=1

didn't even get this bad during the post COVID inflation
>>
>>128100985
>gatekeeping oldheads
doubt
Nickelback were the last rockstars.
For some reason, they experienced an unprecedented backlash.
it was MASSIVE.
and, some would suggest, WHOLLY INORGANIC

But why?

In what way were Nickelback a threat?
Who would have orchestrated such a backlash?

Find the answers to these questions...
>>
>>128107815
in a shitty economy where risking it could mean losing it all.
>>
>>128107815
Unlike zoomers? Every generation is a bit more pussies than the last
>>
>>128107815
of course it is this generation worships its childhood and goes out of its way to avoid adult responsibility
>>
File: BeatlesGrammy2025.jpg (129 KB, 495x619)
129 KB
129 KB JPG
The fact that shit like this happens today proves the point that said disgusting legacy gatekeeping really is a thing. There is no non-self-mastrubatory reason to give coveted awards to a band that hasn’t produced anything in 60 years ago with half their members dead half senile
>>
>>128107883
you're way overthinking this. that happens because Sony demands continuous yearly returns on the Beatles' catalog.
>>
>>128107815
boomers were all about testing the limit of what you can get away with. conversely this meant that what happened with Millenials was probably inevitable. every generation wants to rebel against its parents' norms so if your parents were about testing the limits of what you can get away with, then there's no way to rebel short of being as boring and afraid of risk as possible.
>>
think no further than Taylor Swift for the ultimate Millenial

>shallow
>stupid
>permanently 16
>music that is as boring and afraid to think outside the box as humanly possibly
>>
OP you are correct but most of the people here wouldn’t admit it since it’s calling them out
>>
>>128107815
look at you, anon. come on you're 34 and you've never had a job kissed a girl had sex gotten behind the wheel of a car, had a bank account etc all because those things scared you and your life hasn't changed in any meaningful way since you were 15.
>>
>>128108002
That's pop not millenial
>>
>>128108059
Who are you even addressing?
>>
>>128106256
Yeah sure but where's the music then
>>
>>128108002
Millennial music makers:

Vampire Weekend
Davendra Barnhart
Simian Mobile Disco
Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros
The Faint
Oneohtrix Point Never and the whole hypnagogic pop and vaporwave
Toro y Moi
The XX
MGMT
Jai Paul
M83
Justice
Birdy Nam Nam
Nicolas Jaar
The Knife
Hot Chip
La Roux

None of them shallow, stupid, permanently 16 and afraid of taking risks
>>
>>128108655
hilarious self own
>>
>>128108655
Masterful bait. If not I don’t know what to tell you
>>
Rock is dead because we shun true rebels like Ian Watkins
>>
>>128105133
Uriah Heep is popular?
>>
>>128107838
>But why?
probably because all their hits where whiney sappy ballady bullcrap. they're like a slightly harder coldplay
>>
>>128108655
this is the best millennials have to offer? no wonder zoomers didn't come up with anything
>>
>>128101326
>Nigga Heil Hitler
Thats a good son tho, I dont even like hip hop
>>
>>128100985
Nah Rock was killed by music piracy
>>
>>128103969
To be fair Manson reversed that shit and made rockstars cool again for a good 10 years before rock imploded.

My personal theory is that the low hanging fruit genres are done to hell (numetal and poppunk). And for the rest of the stuff you need to be moderately competent. Numetal was deviced around the fact that most people couldnt play for shit with a few exceptions. You cant make many more genres about not being able to play the guitar in a rock setting.
>>
>>128114114
>rock imploded in 2006
there were still butt rock bands back then. like theory of a deadman and shit. it was all trash but at least it was rock. compared to now it seems like there was at least some audience (dudes who beat their wives)
>>
>>128107883
Why does "rock" platforms still shill the Beatles so hard? They are overrated and already have their own Rockband game anyway.
>>
>>128114804
The beatles were considered sissy music back in the day.
>>
>>128110916
Their early 70s stuff are extremely popular here in Greece to the point they're considered one the great classic bands along with Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple. Apparently they're also popular in Finland if we go by sales charts.
>>
>>128115087
Not according to Lemmy
>...the Beatles were hard men too. Brian Epstein cleaned them up for mass consumption, but they were anything but sissies. They were from Liverpool, which is like Hamburg or Norfolk, Virginia--a hard, sea-farin' town, all these dockers and sailors around all the time who would beat the piss out of you if you so much as winked at them. Ringo's from the Dingle, which is like the f***ing Bronx. The Rolling Stones were the mummy's boys--they were all college students from the outskirts of London. They went to starve in London, but it was by choice, to give themselves some sort of aura of disrespectability. I did like the Stones, but they were never anywhere near the Beatles--not for humour, not for originality, not for songs, not for presentation. All they had was Mick Jagger dancing about. Fair enough, the Stones made great records, but they were always s**t on stage, whereas the Beatles were the gear.
>>
are we not gonna talk about the late 00s early 10s post hardcore/metalcore or...? Cos those still had profitable successes like escape the fate, avenged sevenfold, bullet for my valentine? Regardless of how you feel about these bands: guitar hero was exploding some of em into fame and getting young people at the time into listening and making music. I'm not sure what you mean by "rock" music but I am sure you mean music made with drums bass and guitar that is distorted.

or maybe Im just being a faggot idk
>>
>>128114114
Manson wasn’t cool and nobody serious about music liked his stuff (because it’s not great). His fans were basically the teeny boppers. He was just a more extreme version of Alice Cooper
>>
>>128115670
No, you have a point. There’s a few sort of pitchfork hipster albums that weren’t bad either
>>
>>128114060
Gayest lie ITT
>>
>>128115752
Manson is chud core
>>
File: 175041721093.png (2.63 MB, 1616x2048)
2.63 MB
2.63 MB PNG
>>128100985
>Rock’s death was due to
>>
>>128115124
that's based af
>>
>>128116333
if every hit song of yours is a ballad then it's not rock
>>
>>128116333
>no real reason
Overhyped early on, overplayed throughout their run, never better than mediocre. The legitimate arguments against disco in the late '70s also apply to Nickelback.
>>
>>128101396
>ai
So then you're not actually making it.
Also, you jave to be 18 years of age or older to post on 4chan. Grow the fuck up before posting here ever again.
>>
>>128115670
True,the other anon posting "new /mu/charts" didn't include a single post-hardcore/metalcore/pop-punk album, even though they're my, and many others too, favorites. those genres are WAY more deserving than any cRap to be included.
>>
Rock killed itself. It speaks for itself. Rockstars are inherently self destructive. There is only so far the drugs can take you creatively until you hit the wall. All rock acts are destined for the legacy act circuit.
Like Ozzy. Its really only 70s Black Sabbath and his first two solo albums that matter. 11 years of influential output. Then phoning it in for over 40 years. And the goofball died regretting nothing (contradicting prior statements he has made about his behavior towards his spouses) and a total cuck slave to the vampire that more than anything paradoxically both shortened and kept him going as her meal ticket several decades past expiration date. He would not have survived past 40 if she did not invest into him but he would have also seen at least 80 if she had just let him retire like he wanted after No More Tears. His brain already gave up and died in 1981 anyway. He literally got committed to a psych ward around the time Diary of a Madman was released but Sharon had him released for the tour against the doctors advise. What was left after that was just Sharons manslut. One very revealing part of his latest memoir is that he felt like he did not truly become Ozzy until he married Sharon in 1982. He was still part John (his first wife and his parents appearantly refused to call him Ozzy because lo and behold Ozzy was originally a demeaning nickname he got from his old school bullies) until Sharon took full control. And Sharon never called him John. Just the demeaning nickname he got from his old school bullies. At one point Iommi was one of those bullies actually even though they obviously made up since considering they played in the same band and were on the road with each other for over a decade straight since. Small world, huh?
>>
>>128114060
hi gene
>>
>>128116305
Yeah I’ll agree with this one and put Slipknot in there too
>>
But Osbourne never seemed to have done the right thing in the end and actually put bros before the hoe (the world champion of giga hoes at that) and died a total cuck slave to the hoe and here nepo babies even discussing wanting to be buried together. Grotesque.
The saddest aspect of his death was that he died sitll mentally enslaved to Sharon. That he somewaht half assedly made up with e.g. Bill Ward and Jake E. Lee right before he croaked is not even close to a silver lining. It just makes it even sadder. Its all Sharon allowed him. So the conspiracy theorist in me almost believes she cut him short before he could repair any other bridges.
>>
>>128100985
>Rock’s death
Not dead yet. Grunge is seeing a huge revival with gen z groups leading it. Went to a concert last week and it was amazing.
Looks like the decades of popslop are over boys, Rock's back on the menu. Go out to those concerts and get that DIY First album CD they made before they hit big so you can sell it on ebay in 20 years for $50,000
>>
>>128114114
>Numetal was deviced around the fact that most people couldnt play for shit with a few exceptions.
And that's a disgrace. It was the embrace of mediocrity.
>>
>>128100985
>Arctic Monkeys
kino band, OP makes sense

>Twenty One Pilots and Maneskin
oh no..... bait post
>>
>>128117384
Why are there so many reddit takes and reddit anecdotes like this on this board?
You might as well say Black Metal is making a comeback because I happen to see plenty of zoomers with Bathory hoodies these days. Asinine. Zoomers are just stuck in revivalism (of all disparate sorts of things all over the place) and retro like millennials also were in their youth. Its not exclusively a good phenomenon but also not exclusively a negative phenomenon. Nostalgia is understandable to a certain point.
>>
File: 1760492305276925.gif (3.2 MB, 500x275)
3.2 MB
3.2 MB GIF
>>128117460
>You might as well say Black Metal is making a comeback because I happen to see plenty of zoomers with Bathory hoodies these days
But they're not just wearing hoodies? They're starting actual fucking bands and going on North American tours?
Also
>Everything I don't like is le reddit take
kek. yet here you are trying to make some reddit one-liners.
>>
>>128117479
Peak projection. And delusion.
The entire music industry is DEAD AIR at this point. And good fucking riddance I say. I love that AI is going to make so much of this slop obsolete.
>>
>>128117618
the industry is literally all about money and nothing else. AI slop will just make it easier to make money for the suits.
>>
File: gr1_lrg.jpg (6 KB, 194x259)
6 KB
6 KB JPG
"My advice to musicians has always been this. If you can't come up with anything, just steal from whatever you happen to like. Chances are it'll end up sounding like its own thing anyway."
>>
>>128117636
Only if they are able to centralize AI further. As long as it stays more decentralized its a different matter.
Of course I am not naive and realize they are trying to think of something to still manage to squeeze milk out of AI by. They already checked piracy with streaming back in the day.
>>
>>128117642
do you agree?
>>
>>128104128
>a couple power chords and a basic drum beat
It takes at least 100 hours to get good enough to play this and not sound like shit. And even if you do, you've only learned enough for punk, not actual rock.
>>
>>128107815
Ubiquitous smartphones and social media are to blame.
>>
>>128100985
Bump
>>
>>128104128
>which is why rap is easier to get into
Yes I'm sure you grew up in Watts dodging drive-bys on the way to school in the morning.
>>
>>128117885
idk it worked for Nirvana's Pixies tribute act didn't it?
>>
>>128100985
No, it was because Rock is exclusively attracting white males and we can't have that in this day and age.
>>
>>128101287
the dang kids on they iphone!! back in the day we play a tune... now they play itune... so sad please give thumb up if u agree my daughter hates me
>>
>>128121840
Not true by the way
>>
>>128121585
one thing you can say about rap is that it's very puritanical about you being authentically from the 'hood or else you're a poseur
>>
File: 1704566436605071.png (11 KB, 592x720)
11 KB
11 KB PNG
>>128116835
>>128116333
They have the best anti tranny song tho
Nickleback EXONERATED!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN96sx2SdRc



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.