Rap isn't music.
>>128192268Wrong
>>128192275Not music. Just chanting over noise. Sometimes they chant over music, but that doesn't make rap music
>>128192275Not music
>take famous painting by well trained artist>smear feces over it>call it yoursThis is how rapist work
>>128192275Peak music.
hip hop is music
>>128192304>NOOOOOOO all art has to be high art and meaningful and rich and deep and symbolic and connect with me PERSONALLY NOOOOOOOOYou can't defend this.
>>128193248NOOOOOOOOOT!
>>128193252>Nooooo standards don't exist, all attempts at art are in fact artYou can't defend this
>>128192275fpbp
>>128193530I can easily. There are tons of examples of fantastic hip hop with influences from any genre you could fathom.
>>128193550Fathom, did you learn this world in the hiphop swag?
>>128193550Sorry, my IQ isn't low enough to appreciate apes chanting about drugs and crime over a 4/4 beat.
>>128193550Give me some ragtime rap pls
>>128193652IQ is pseudoscientific
>>128193667Based!
go look up what pseudoscience is before you reply please
>>128193667>IQ isn't real>but rap is musicYou must be smokin that Seal stack
2. Vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody, harmony, or rhythm.https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=music
>>128192268All it takes to be music is to be two or more tones played at separate times to show contrast between the tones
>>128193864>>128193903Not music
This is music https://youtu.be/DwRXI-y6M9o
>>128192268agreed
>>128193943Flamebait
Rapists be like>there are no standards, anything can be music even the sounds of shit coming out of your ass are musicWhen you have to abandon all standards to defend your position, you have lost
>>128194172Not music
>>128194207ebin!!!
Real music>Charlie Parker>Duke Ellington>Wes MontgomeryNot music>anything that involves sampling actual music>anything where the top line is not melodic>anything where chanting is the main device to deliver lyrics
>>128192285spbp
>>128192285>but that doesn't make rap musicAccording to whom? You?
>>128194422Yes, I'm the smartest poster on /mu/ with the best taste in music. Cope.
>>128194476Troll mind
>>128194518>you VILL eat the audible goyslopNo
>>128193652>Sorry, my IQ isn't low enough to appreciate apes chanting about drugs and crime over a 4/4 beat.Well, it surely is low enough to associate rap with apes chanting about drugs and crime.I associate hip hop with the highest form of lyricism from the likes of Aesop Rock, Sole, God Complex, Sage Francis, Glue
>>128196298more of a Biz Markie man myself
>>128196298>highest form of lyricismKek, we get it you are sub 90 iq
Le highest form of lyricism>Stay true like a wolf wearing wolf pantsWhoa. Wow. Life changing.
>>128194268Extremely based and powerful post.
>>128193667correct but rap is also pseudomusic. it's so not music that even the word muzak is too good for rap.
>>128193238Joji outed himself
>>128196324You can’t use IQ as an argument it’s fake and gay. You may as well argue that he’s the wrong astrologic sign or some shit, stop it
>>128193252No one is saying that it isn't art or that it doesn't have any value, you're putting words that people didn't say.
>>128194268The bird was awesome, man. Those were real musicians changing everything for better.
>>128192268I have unironically tried to get into hip hop several times over the years there are a handful of individual tracks that are actually quite good, there's a hip hop all time hits compilation of 2cds that is excellentmost of it is just rubbish the gangster stuff where they larp about being big time drug dealers is cringethe fact it is so popular tells me all i need to know about normal people
>>128192268according to my music theorist dad
>>128197464Wrong pic
>>128192268
abandon rapembrace soulhttps://www.youtube.com/@SouldOutRap/videos
>>128193248If it has an original harmonic arrangement (can use normal chord progressions but cant just be samples) and sung vocals (not chanting flat notes) then sure, but at that point you are getting into more RB territory.The act of "raping" isn't musical. It just isn't. Its rhythmic "poetry" but even calling it poetry is a stretch, but I'll let you have that.Let's take the first song off of Kendrick Lamar's semenal work, To Pimp a Monkey.Is Thundercat's groovy bass line music? Hell fucking yeah.Are Kendrick's 60 iq monkey chants music? No. He is soiling the song with his retardation. The instrumental is music, the rap is not.
>>128194268I kneel...