what music do poor people make nowadays? where's the best place to find their music?
>>128216328the ozarks
Long hair makes men look like fags.
>>128216435less gay than getting drafted, a crew cut, and dying for Israel.
>>128216435Women look better with shorter hair, men look better with longer hair.
>>128216449>fortunate son starts playing
>>128216477I wouldn't go that far
>>128216435 Are you 90 years old?
>>128216328They make rap. You can make rap basically for free nowadays.
FROM GARY, INDIANA!
>>128216328Go to Skid Row and ask around
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>>128216586I’m 32.
>>128216727there used to be a bucket drumming guy in my area on the street He's not there anymore :(
>>128216449>Have long hair and look like a fag>Marry an ultra jew chick, save your career, and become richer than ever.
>>128216435The way men looked in the 70s seems so strange now. The long hair x mustache combo does not only look archaic, it looks unappealing in at least 99% of cases for reasons I still struggle to properly articulate. If it's meant to communicate a kind of brutish, masculine presence, it fails miserably at that, evoking more of an opposite effect. Yet, these people used to get bitches. Seems like this kind of look vanished almost overnight and took a drastic turn left by the 80s, and for the better
i like ozzy's shirt in this photo
>>128216680are soundcloud rappers still popular these days? i never hear about them anymore
>>128216874>If it's meant to communicate a kind of brutish, masculine presence, it fails miserably at thatThey just weren't conforming to the clean cut image expected of them. Not brutish. None of them were particularly brutish. A lot of Sabbath's lyrics are still hippy lyrics.
>>128216821You win some, you lose some, I guess.Zakk's wife is his manager too..but she's like his highschool girlfriend. Rockstar who was with the same chick all this time. I don't know how he pulled that off, but it's awesome in this day and age. That dude won. He ain't no fag.
>>128216435r u America or 3rd World?
It's over for poor people to make music
I only listen to Trust Fund Bands and Classical Music. Poor people simply shouldn't be allowed to make music
>>128216903ozzy is very obviously mentally retarded, you don't even have to hear him speak just look at the dudehe would have been great as Barney Rubble in the Flintstones movie though
>>128217359>ozzy is very obviously mentally retardedand has achieved more than i ever will in my life
>>128217443The times are changing and humans are capable of change, too. So if you can be retarded where it counts, you can too achieve things in your life
>>128216328i'm tired about hearing the next new popular pop girl that used to be a disney starwhere are the poor women musicians nowadays
>>128217464>The times are changing >So if you can be retarded where it countsew in current days, that means i have to become a tiktok starguess i'll be happy in my loser life instead
>>128217079boo you rich frog!
Poor people don't make music anymore, they just do fent all day.
>>128216821She became richer you mean. He was just her vessel. Their relationship was peak co-dependence and devouring mother type shit.In fairness to Sharon she went through a lot of awful stuff herself in her time though. Ozzy and her basically trauma bonded. The world chewed them both up, spat them out and then made sure there was no longer a way out for the two of them ending up with each other in the end.One thing to respect about Ozzy though is that he never even tried keeping up a facade. He was like>Here is all this awful shit I did while I was off my ass and fucked up on drugs 40 to 50 years ago that I feel bad about myself now. Questions?He was the most honest rockstar ever. Unlike e.g. John Lennon who thought the sun shone out of his ass despite also being of working poor background.
>>128220870lennon didn't live long enough to make amends. he was starting to, but we'll never know how his perspective would have shifted.
>>128217359This perception that he was mentally diminished and could not speak properly mostly comes from his reality tv era when his doctors were oversubscribing him all sorts of fucked up meds. Thats why he was the way he was on that show which he hated doing so it also made him relapse again on all other kinds of illegal substances during that time as well. Sharon and her producer friends in Hollywood probably also kept him drunk and fucked up on drugs at around that time because to them it made for great TV. Hollywood is a sick place. Water is wet.Joan Rivers once said there are two people in Hollywood that scares her and that one of them was Sharon Osbourne.
>>128216680>>128216921is this 2012?
>>128220688>>128217056they never did. all your favourite boomer rawk people came about because of the huge explosion in middle class prosperity in the 50s-60s.
>>128221066soundcloud rap took off in 2016
>>128221083>>128216680Not music.
>>128220898The really sad part of Ozzys death though is that it seems he never did make ammends with everyone he had wronged though. Barely just some of them at the final gig. And one could be a tin foil hat and argue he was held back by a certain someone (you know who I mean) from doing so.When Ozzy had his fall in 2019 or so Geezer sent him a get well message by mail that Sharon supposedly deleted so it never got to Ozzy who then supposed Geezer did not care for him anymore and felt really hurt over it. Sharon and Geezers wife supposedly had a falling out over some bullshit at one point which is what prompted Sharons ice cold pettiness in that regard. So one can imagine Geezer was not the first one who got that sort of treatment from her towards someone trying to reach out to her husband over the years.
>>128221082I wonder if they actually think Grace Slick, David Crosby, Jim Morrison etc grew up in an Appalachian coal town and weren't the 60s equiv of trust fund kids.
>>128221162>muh cherry picking
>>128221082Ozzys dad got himself into debt merely buying his son a PA.It was not all Hunky-dory for all boomers.
>>128221083what do we have now, tiktok rappers? is that a thing?
>>128216921What happened to Soundcloud? why doesn't it seem popular anymore?
>>128221162never said they weren't. main diff. is they were bored rich kids who rebelled. modern rich kids don't rebel they're their parents compliant puppets.
>>128221238What those trust fund kiddies were doing in the 60s and 70s was not rebellion either. It was just degeneracy and being brainwashed and used by one faction of the establishment against another faction of the establishment. Same as now.
>>128221238Rebellion happens when some group of people are dissatisfied with their portion of the socioeconomic or political pie. Zoomlennial rich kids have nothing to be dissatisifed over.
>>128216435Let me guess, balding that fell for the shave it all off meme
The Boswell Sisters were arguably America's first real pop stars and they were rich brats from some wealthy Southern family.
>>128221300>Zoomlennial rich kids have nothing to be dissatisifed over.The lie detector determined that was a lie.There is a lot to list and I do not want to make a poltarded post of it all so I will just stick to calling you an aloof pisshead.
>>128221300>>128221361Also boomers generally speaking in the 60s and 70s had even less reason to rebell then if we are going by your galaxy brain logic.
>>128221335of pre-rock singers most came from at least middle class families even though a few like Patti Page did really grow up dirt-shit poor. like i mean Frank Sinatra's father owned a bar in Hoboken so he was an independent businessman.
Poor people today make trap music, country music, and metal. Indie Rock is entirely bourgeois
>>128216328Rap is the manchildiest, failure at life genre thats why there are so many broke, some even homeless soundcloud rappers.Rock due to tje costs of the guitar, the amps, the pedals, the everything is solidly middle to high class now.>>128216435Its what the arthoes are into so i guess i'll be a fag that is into women
>>128221440Always was. Go back to the 80s and it was the same thing, indie rock was hipster music while working class kids listened to metal.
>>128221403>like i mean Frank Sinatra's father owned a bar in Hoboken so he was an independent businessman.most independent business owners are barely scraping by.
>>128221456>Rock due to tje costs of the guitar, the amps, the pedals, the everything is solidly middle to high class now.Never wasn't that. One reason for the popularity of doo-wop in the 50s was that it was entirely vocal or had like one guy with an instrument so it was accessible to poor kids.
>>128221477Costs were way lower in Sinatra's times
>>128221491The fuq is woo-dop
>>128221440>metalwhat is it about metal that brings in the poor people? someone might think it'd ward off people because it requires buying equipment and lots of time to be really skilled at the instruments
>>128221477Tony Iommi was the "richest" member of Black Sabbath because his parents owned a shop or something such. So it did make a difference to run a business back then. Seeing as the other three guys were way worse off financially starting out. Especially Ozzy and his family.
>>128221546poor people in general are inclined to aggressive music
also the Rolling Stones? total trust fund babbies.
>>128221477>>128221575And mind you Black Sabbath were boomers. But the conditions they grew up (post-war bombed out by the germans Birmingham, England) was vastly different to what most people think of as the boomer life. In many regards they were still living in the 1930s even up until the 1960s. If I recall correctly from his autobiography there was still rationing going on during Ozzys early childhood way into the 1950s.
>>128221601>be me>poor>metalheadhmmmcan't argue with that
>>128221615Rationing in the UK lasted all the way to 1954. The 60s were sick though, boomers could basically just walk into a job. Anthony Eden said the kids rebelled back then simply out of boredom.
>>128221082like i mean ok yeah Iggy Pop grew up in a trailer park but his dad was a UAW worker who made a pretty fair living for himself in the booming postwar years.
>>128221627True in essense for most boomers. But there was still a finer print to it for some.
>>128221403>like i mean Frank Sinatra's father owned a bar in Hoboken so he was an independent businessmanyeah so did Willie Nelson. his father owned a bar/pool hall in Texas.
only posho kids can afford to make real music these days (shame they're inherently crap at it)
>>128221614Mick Jagger's father was a gym teacher so at least middle class and Keef was the grandson of a politician or something.
>>128221515you must be 18 to use this website
>>128216683i'm still amazed by Michael Jackson and the other Jacksons
>>128221403>Day was born Doris Mary Kappelhoff[4] on April 3, 1922, in Cincinnati, Ohio,[5] the daughter of German-American[6][7][8] parents Alma Sophia (née Welz; 1895–1976) and William Joseph Kappelhoff (1892–1967). She was named after actress Doris Kenyon.[9] Her mother was a homemaker, and her father was a music teacher and choirmaster.[10][11]And there we have it.
>>128221888yes exactly she was also from a middle class family
never forget that Miles Davis was a spoiled brat who came from one of the most well-off black families in the country
TRUST FUND KIDS ALWAYS EXISTED. WAKE UP YOU FOOLS.
Rihanna used to be poor> She was raised in a three-bedroom bungalow in Bridgetown and helped her father sell clothes at a street stall.[13][14] Her childhood was affected by her father's alcoholism and crack cocaine addiction, which strained her parents' marriageuntil>n 2003, Rihanna formed a music trio with two classmates in Barbados.[27] Unnamed and without original material, the girl group auditioned for American producer Evan Rogers, who recalled that "the minute Rihanna walked into the room, it was like the other two girls didn't exist".[28][29] The trio went on to perform a cover of Destiny's Child's "Emotion".[28][30] Impressed, Rogers arranged a second meeting with Rihanna and her mother—this time without the other two girls—and later invited them to his hometown in Connecticut to record demo tapes for record label submissions.>Rihanna's demo was sent to rapper Jay-Z, who had just become the president and CEO of the record label Def Jam Recordings.[36][37] Although Jay-Z initially thought "Pon de Replay" was too big for a new artist, he invited her to audition. In early 2005, she performed in New York City for Jay-Z and music executive Antonio "L.A." Reid, singing Whitney Houston's "For the Love of You" along with demo tracks "Pon de Replay" and "The Last Time".[31][38][39] Jay-Z was convinced of her potential,[40] and Reid told him not to let her leave the building without a deal.[41] She waited in Jay-Z's office while lawyers finalized a six-album contract with Def Jam.[42] Rihanna canceled scheduled meetings with other labels and, shortly after turning 16, moved from Barbados to the US. There, she completed her high school education with a tutor.[43][44]>After Rihanna signed with Def Jam, Jay-Z and his team spent three months completing her debut studio album.
>>128222086Well of course we know that. But also not "always" as such. Just since late 1800s or so.
>>128221403>of pre-rock singers most came from at least middle class families even though a few like Patti Page did really grow up dirt-shit poor. like i mean Frank Sinatra's father owned a bar in Hoboken so he was an independent businessman.Teresa Brewer's father was a factory foreman and her mother groomed her for stardom from childhood so let's not be too idealistic about the past and pretend "that" kind of singer hasn't always existed.
>>128216435And yet the dudes from op pic got enough pussy in their lifetime. Remember this, when you get Tom of Finland inspired haircut next time.
>>128217466Living in their grandmas trailer and getting raped on their walk to school
>>128222576that's likely, but sad :(
>>128222138>it was like the other two girls didn't exist>Rogers arranged a second meeting with Rihanna and her mother—this time without the other two girlsRihanna is a billionaire now. Imagine being those other two girls.
>Bonnie Lynn Raitt was born on November 8, 1949, in Burbank, California.[6] Her mother, Marge Goddard (née Haydock), was a pianist, and her father, John Raitt, was a professional actor and singer in musicals, including the original Broadway lead roles in Carousel and The Pajama Game.[7] Raitt is of Scottish ancestry, a descendant of the Rait Clan that built Rait Castle near Nairn in the 13th Century.[8] Lemme tell you about trust fund kids and how they've always been.
yeah rap is rather puritan compared to most genres, you can't be taken seriously if you didn't actually grow up poor
>>128224602i mean literally, noble lineage going back to the fucking Middle Ages. top that.
>>128222506One thing Judith Butler is right about is that gender is a performance. It's quite strange and always kind of transforming, which basically means that what seems masculine today will appear gay in the future.We're in a period now where stressing differences between men and women is in fashion. It's like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. On the women it's long hair and sundresses, and on the men it's short beards, high-and-tight haircuts. But that's also the hard gay culture, everyone is trying to look like Ryan Gosling:https://youtu.be/aZV7ZzRSiTQ
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>>128216328I've never met a rich Alice in Chains fan
>>128221082>>128221082>they never did. all your favourite boomer rawk people came about because of the huge explosion in middle class prosperity in the 50s-60s.the average worker in 1969 was making the equivalent of $75 an hour
>>128216328Shouldn't there be more poor people music now than ever, now that people can produce music on their laptops?
i'd imagine ai music might become popular soon if it isn't already
>>128229477>poor people asking ai to make their music for thembleak
>>128229670as opposed to what exactly? as opposed to composing their own music and hiring musicians to play it for them?
>>128230256composing or performing their own music
>>128230341and what? do they compose ten hours' worth of music in ten hours? while they sleep? when?
>>128230479if poor people no longer have the time to make music, even as hobbyists, we live in bleak times
>>128230543my point is that they will consume more than they create. if they can consume all the music they want, will that be ok for them? for some of them it probably is. a lot of poor people also have smartphones so they can record themselves whistling, singing, or humming, etc.
I live in the big city, tons of crappy Reggaeton. It's nice
>>128217359>ozzy is very obviously mentally retardeddoesn't he just have dyslexia and adhd?
>>128220870>>128221028>>128221148At the same time though Ozzy was shrewder and colder than most would give him credit for blinded as many were by his bumbling loveable oaf persona. He played dumb a lot. But he could be just as cruel on the business end as Sharon was. They had a good cop/bad cop routine going. Remember Ozzy used to be a burglar and a juvenile delinquent that fucked people out of money and got fucked out of money himself all over Birmingham. I think that never really left him. Especially when Black Sabbath started getting ripped off by ex-managers and lawyers later on in the 70s. So its no wonder he and Sharon would go on to rip so many off throughout his solo career as well. To Ozzy it was a matter of kill or be killed really. At least thats how he probably saw it himself even at times that mindset may not even have been warranted. Remember he was also very insecure about himself and what others thought of him.And I am certain that when it came to fucking with Black Sabbath and Iommi in the 80s and 90s it was Ozzy that primarily drove that venture. He most certainly already had a revenge plot against Iommi in particular going with or without Sharon beside him. He could be petty and shrewd all by himself if he wanted to. Its not all on Sharon.
>>128232182>Remember Ozzy used to be a burglar and a juvenile delinquent that fucked people out of money and got fucked out of money himself all over Birmingham. I think that never really left him>shrewdreminds me of when Michael Jackson bought the Beatles catalogue and said it was just business to Paul. Maybe they don't forget being poor in some ways
>>128232182But the plot thickens further actually because Sharon still probably eagerly joined in on the revenge plot against Iommi because back in the 70s Iommi supposedly pumped and dumped her long before Sharon settled with Ozzy and Ozzy was still with his first wife and the countless groupies he cheated on her with (he cheated on Sharon too later on in the same way throughout the 80s especially). Its Sharon that mailed one of her childrens soiled diapers to Iommi in the late 1980s after all.You know what they say about a woman scorned, right? Now apply that to a cluster b inferno like Sharon. Yikes. And thats partly what caused a lot of the intrigue over the rights to Black Sabbath (Ozzy and Sharon sued Iommi for ownership of the trademark and such in the late 2000s which is part of the reason The Devil You Know was not an official Black Sabbath release as it may have been otherwise). And Ozzy carried resentment towards Iommi because of how things went down in Black Sabbath in the 70s with Iommis controlling (verging on tyrinnical) even behavior over the other three members of the band. Arguably does not help that Iommi was one of Ozzys old tormentors from school.Its wild stuff, innit?
>>128232288Yep.
>>128232306>Its Sharon that mailed one of her childrens soiled diapers to Iommi in the late 1980s after alli just learnt about this and what dafuq!!!???makes me wonder how it went through the mailing system, that shit must've been wrapped really tight
>>128216903Looks like something my grandma would wear
>>128232366ur grandma fashionable
Does being poor affect your music?
>>128234447Hunger. Its hard to replace
>>128216797STOMP was huge 35 years ago. Imagine young street people beating on trash cans with sticks. They totally stole the '93 Jerry Lewis Telethon.
>>128221148>sad part of Ozzys death was...It was obviously a suicide; which means that he could have done anything he wanted to before the end. It's not like he was taken too soon.
>>128234958i thought he died from a random heart attack. he had plans to visit his siblings.
>>128216328they "make beats" and have "rap battles"
>>128234958>>128235708Inside of me there are two wolves. The tinfoil hat and the truster in all mainstream narratives.
