>incoherent mumbling>le ebin wrong notes XD>why should I ever resolve my phrases>le off tempo is le swing XD>you’re just too stupid to understand >thinks they’re Einstein because they read a book on music theory >yet can’t figure out how to write borderline basic melodiesWhy are Jazz musicians such tryhard losers? Why can’t they just get good?
This is obviously a shit thread, so post your favorite jazz albums.
>>128216891Bebop and Jazz Fusion is good
>>128216891weak b8
>>128216994>>128217104>>128217124Jazz tards please no response, this thread is for the millions of us who only hear your “music” in the elevator or front office before a colonoscopy.
>>128217261The fact jazz is so memed that you think I’m doing a bit is proof it’s actually a joke.
When will they learn dominant 7 chords sound like mush and no one likes hearing them no matter how “useful” they are for “soloing” (random noises with no throughline or tired pre-hearses arpeggios with no creative alteration or interpretation beyond le wrong notes and le swing)
>Be me, 19>Be invited to play in jazz fusion band>all the other players are state music teachers and members of the city’s concert band>im just a self taught musician>given boatload of sheets of jazz music to learn basically overnight>learn all the material and learn to read the lead sheets in about 2 weeks and go play with them>there’s a rock song in our set (24 or 6 to four)>im a rock guitarist >everyone likes that song more than everything else in our set based on their response in every single venue every single timeSpare me the “you don’t understand jazz” it’s not an intellectual achievement, it’s just masking your lack of musical talent in theoretical gatekeeping. Energy, heart, and drive, beat theoretical complexity every time. Jazz is just for people who don’t get it. They’ll never get why rockstars get all the babes.
>>128217365>the masses prefer simpler musicProfound take
>>128217393>more people eat my food>therefore it’s bad Stop coping
Jazz is incredible when you listen to it high on weed though. You can really hear and every single instrument and take your mind to some suave jazz club where you can really feel the music maaaaanAlso, you're retarded OP, you do like Jazz, I'm willing to bet you don't mind more mainstream flavors of Jazz like Big Band and Bossa Nova. Hell, one of the most successful pieces of music of the 20th century is a Jazz piece, Take Five by Dave Brubeck. Not only is the version of Jazz you have in your head a complete strawman, but I also think you're overthinking freestyle or more traditional jazz styles which is why you're soured on it. If you stop overthinking jazz, and just immerse yourself in its broader musical textures rather than cherrypicking individual scales or time signatures, I think it'll click for you. Just give it a chance. Or you know, just listen to it while stoned
You wouldn't happen to be a white supremacist, would you anon?
>>128217456Shut up nerd, don’t speak for me. The only jazz I really like is Mary Lou Williams.
>>128217471I’m so glad the meme I posted about this dork popped off about 3 years ago when I exposed all these music YouTubers for being unable to write listenable music. We seriously need to get to the bottom of this. Where do these collier-Tim Henson creatures spawn out of?
>>128217528My opinions on Collier have kind of changed, I used to be in the crown that just saw him as soulless, overly sterilized slop, but I respect his collaborations with other musicians and even some of his acoustic work
>>128217400I didn’t say it was bad. I said it was simple. The masses are narrowminded, so they enjoy easy listenings.
>>128217549Can you seriously defend this tho? >Jacob Collier - In My Bones ft Kimbra and Tank and the Bangrashttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3-KrhH8ndXg
>>128217617“easy listening” is the same thing as saying a painting is “nice to look at”It’s quite literally the point of music brother.
>>128217622>in my balls in my balls!Yes, I love this kind of shit, in fact he needs to do more shit like this honestly.
>>128217676See I find this overdone to the point that it loses its strength. It’s sometimes good to just let good be good enough. I’m trying to outdo himself he ends up sacrificing the integrity of what are actually great hooks by his colleague. Unfortunately, it takes the “funk” out of the whole thing and it just eclecticises (needed a new word) its way out of the “yay it’s funky let’s dance” vibe which is the WHOLE POINT of FUNK. Someone needs to just tell him to just let the song groove, it’s fine. Save your chops for the next one. You know?
>>128217722I don't see this as funk or groove though, I see it as a pastiche of some 80s arthouse electronic musicians and it works for me in that respect
>>128217741>I don't see this as funk>song literally says “There’s a funky feeling in my bones in my bones I got that funky feelin’”Why not just admit he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing
>>128217825You're just reading too deeply into the lyrics my guy, Heavy Metal Drummer by Wilco isn't a metal song either you know?
>>128217839I’m reading too deeply into the lyrics thinking “there’s a funky feeling in my bones” is supposed to be a funk song.You guys literally think your farts don’t smell.
>>128217839>>128217741>Oh I’m sorry, did you order the “rainbow trout?” You’re reading too deeply into the menu, it’s actually a frogs-legs pastiche.
>>128217671No it isn't. It's like how reading a book for babies will be easier to read than some great work of literature. Easy listening = simple, easy to comprehend, consonant The fact that you don't even understand this point shows how much of a retard you are.Your scenario is also retarded because you say you're a rock guitarist, not a jazz musician. So I'm guessing your jazz is going to be shit. And learning "lead sheets" is not enough to actually play jazz. You need to know how to improvise
>wake up before the sun>drive to my office job an hour before we open>be the only employee in the office>enjoy a bagel, cup of coffee, and some light jazzIt’s not high art. It’s just a comfy way to start the day.
When I listen to jazz players play I get a feeling that no other music does for me. That's all the justification it needs innit
>>128217622this is better than most of princes output
>>128216994Andy Bey all dayRIF
>>128216994Great choice, amazing title track
>>128217244still weak and still a weakling
>>128217671you want to sound smart so bad lmao
>>128217528imho i think neely is leagues beyond henson and collier
>>128220547no genre is high art retard, some musicians are the real deal and others are slop. the fact you don't know this yet tells me your taste is dogwater
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>>128216891Everyone knows the best jazz music is somber, more relaxing, and more bluesy.As a matter of fact Blues > Jazz and lets' just leave it at that.
>>128217365Just say you're dumb. Good job learning the songs though
>>128216994Here's 20.
>>128226534boring overall but decent donald byrd choice
>>128226384only retards think this way, retard. that shit is boring anesthetizing wank for kids still in their "cool sophisticated bachelor" larp phase
>>128226462>Just say you're dumbThe first thing he mentioned was being a teenager, anon....
>>128216994for me it's pic rel
>>128216891bad bait most jazz has resolved phrases and pretty basic melodies. its actually sad people think bebop is some uber complex style of music that is untouchable. most of the best jazz came out of opening the genre and abandoning the excess of bebop and genre dogmatism
>>128217365>>128217456the emphasis of conversations around jazz being too complex is always surface level so it never goes anywhere. im sorry if this is a hard pill to swallow but jazz isnt complicated or hard to listen to. also complexity isnt at odds at so called "soul" or "energy". people need to admit theyre just stupid and i dont mean this in a "jazz is for smart people" way but that the bar is really that low and midwits think theyre special for liking jazz
>>128216891We get it you don't like monk stfu>>128216994Wayne Shorter - Night Dreamer >>128217365Sounds like you had a crowd of normies you stopped listening after the first solo>>128229069Jazz isn't for smart people. Also it's the most soulful energetic music ever. Tritones are truly a beauty
>>128229129youre a retard i already said i dont think its for smart people
>>128229290No one has ever said jazz is for smart people strawman lover!
>>128226534Based fusion chad.
