Whats the fucking point of making threads if you don't bump them EditionStick Men EditionWhat is Progressive Rock?>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/Good albums to start with?>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Previous >>128199470
I think it's finally time to admit /prog/ is dead
>>128218777I blame Tony for this.
Currently listening to Art Zoyd - Live & Unreleased (Disk 6).
>>128219258Art Zoyd + Univers Zero 1979
I've seen a bit of buzz over the new Elemental Mix of Lizard, but have any anons listened to the new In the Wake of Poseidon mixes?The reimagining of the title track is very interesting, definitely a standout for me. It almost becomes a different song completely.The added reverb and alternate flute solo at the end of Cadence and Cascade are nice, but otherwise not a huge change.Pictures of a City and Cat Food bring Michael Giles' drumming and Keith Tippett's piano to the forefront, respectively. Which is nice because I've always considered them two of the standout players on this album, but generally the tracks don't flow as well as the originals (not unheard of with these Elemental Mixes).Groon is a cool B-side to have included, but personally I think the Live at Summit Studios version by the Islands crew blows this original rendition out of the water. Ian Wallace is super-underrated in the league of King Crimson drummers.The "mini-LP" style CD sleeve packaging sucks, especially the booklet being lose in the middle with nothing holding it in. The 40th Anniversary CD releases had a similar problem, but those had the slip case so it was a non-issue; not the case here.
>>128218052>Stick Men Editionhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ABQ-WAryrJM
>>128219560I've always wondered about Ian Wallace, super talented guy who was called up by Emerson before ELP, had chances to join Yes yet went on to have an okay-ish career.It seems to be a recurring theme in KC's canon, fantastic players going on to have dull and sad lives.
The Elemental Mixes are the most useless and arrogant cashgrab Fripp and his bald hack manager could have think of in recent years.
>>128218052I doubt this thread will last another day.
A reminder to the 3 remaining /prog/ postersListen to Thrak :Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqh894mrBxI
I'm seeing steve hackett live. First time going to a show I'm 100% excited for. I know it's not as good as some other options but it's worth a try
>>128221329>I went to see Crimson two years ago, and I was actually surprised at how conventional they were. Because compared to when I was in the band, the mid-seventies, the band was much more outrageous. They played it very very safe. It was almost like a Yes or Genesis show, you know, which ironically is what Robert Fripp has been trying to get away from. I mean, the reason why he broke up King Crimson in 1974 was because he didn't want it to turn into a Yes or Genesis, cause it was about to get that popular. And now I go and see them, and what they're doing is really just a kind of pastiche of what we did twenty years ago.>Everything sounds like 'son of "Red"'... through a phaser, or a flanger. And their last title track, "Thrak", just sounds like "Red" with the whole thing put through a flanger. I'm not putting that down, cause Robert is a very good friend of mine, it's just an observation that I had that it just seemed really safe, you know.
Hangover prog?
>>128221329OK chief
>>128221329No worries man I got da scores
>>128222427Oops haha here it is
Any anons have a clue what exactly this is? Listed on KC's store page at Burning Shed. It's not the Elemental Mixes, but it's not the 40th/50th anniversary Steven Wilson mixes either. Larks is my favorite album so I'm tempted to order it just to find out.
>>128222597I mean, it's right there on the title...
Cring Kimson
>>128222675Well yeah, it's alternate mixes, sure. I guess I'm more wondering if anyone ITT knows to what extent.On one hand, the Steven Wilson mixes are mostly just "the same thing but a little smoother", with the exception of maybe Lizard which has a few more notable changes. On the other hand, the Elemental mixes can be anything from alt-takes for specific instrument lines to rearranging the structure of the song altogether. I'm wagering this is somewhere in the middle.The "Jamie Muir solo" entry on the tracklist also has me intrigued.
I really like this version of Nine Feet Undergroundhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgVnS3bAjOk
Speaking of land of pink and grey, Winter Wine is one of my favorite prog tracks and I wish it got my recognition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlmZt0a6YOQ
My favorite prog rock song? Why, Terrapin Station by The Grateful Dead of course!
>>128222307Cool. I'm seeing him soon too. He still puts on a good show. Even though Genesis is by far the music I've seen live the most (Steve Hackett like 5 times, Musical Box like 5 times, and Genesis itself once), I am always very high on Genesis for at least a couple days after the show.
>>128222307He's coming over here to turdiestan early next year and I have been considering going. How much of the setlist can I expect to be 70s material, and how washed-up will it sound?
>>128218052rate my taste
>>128228094>the wallAnon...
Maybe I'm wrongbut I'm feeling like another nightwould make it alright
>they made fucking full album stereo mixes of the future now and ph7 but nothing from silent corner or in camera
just did a fart in 5/8
>>128228878zappa did it first
>>128228893shit (nearly anyway haha, big lunch)
proggybumps haha that's an old one eh
>>128228780ph67
I was raped by Bill Bruford under the sheltering sky of 1981
>>128218052Anyone have the smug Wetton with the pepe hand? I made it years ago but deleted it.
>>128232648this is like the 2nd time you've asked that. be sure not to lose it this time
>>128232798You have a good memory
>>128222308he was right. fripp is a hack and a sellout yeah.
boomp
>>128222308Just jelly that Fripp didn’t invite him back
>>128228780Hammill deluxe collection update: all the non-stereo remasters sound exactly the same. The Future Now's stereo mix is mid. Most of the good tracks sound strictly worse and are not even worth it for the novelty. You're better off going for some fresh live versions if you want some new take on them. The pH7 stereo mixes are nice. You get a clearer view of both the beeps and bops as well as various vocal passages that are barely audible in the originals for some reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B51Cwe7yBkYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRL5mAfkL0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofMgIeZAOosfresh hammill zoomboom tiktok lore: his signature actually contains the letters h, a, m, i and l. somehow i had never noticed that>there is a different track called mr x that also has a stereo mix and it was done by STEVEN WILSONIsn't Wilson supposedly a Hammill enjoyer? Would he really have been out of the pay grade here?
https://youtu.be/81JaE2SDWe0?si=K2N1GxAgHuV-5nb2I like this version of tarkus more than the original
>>128236600The non-stereo remasters sound much better than the mid 2000s remasters. A lot less compressed.
>>128222308this salty bitch got THRAKKED hard
THRaKaTTaK my beloved
Happy to be happy with what you have to be happy to be happy to be happy to be happy with what you have to be... with
>>128226724The Musical Box sure can play but they're getting too old and fat to do the visuals
>>128238655WERE GONNA NEED A CHORUS
>>128226724He was pretty good :) Honestly I don't see live music much and I am very much on a high myself now>>128226883the first half was solo material, second half was lamb and encores from the 70s. I honestly don't know enough of his solo material to differentiate between voyage of the acolyte and the circus and the nightwhale but what I heard made me feel like I should listen more
what are the last three /prog/ concerts you went to?
>>128241034The closest thing for me was seeing Live At Pompeii and Dave's solo concert film recentlyNot much happens here in NZ...
>>128241034Steve Hackett Steve Wilson They both sucked
I've been listening to prog since I was a kid with all the other dad rock of the 60s and 70s because my dad, who doesn't really like a lot of intellectual music, for whatever reason loves Genesis, Yes, and Rush. To him they were just other cool bands and not necessarily worth separating from Kiss and Montrose other favorites of his. I've been aware of the genre for so long yet I had never done a deep dive into the more obscure territories so I did that this month and came across some very good obscure gems. Everything after Uriah Heep I would consider really underground unless you're from that country. I listened to quite a lot of albums in a two week period and I think I finished my deep dive with a better appreciation for the classics and proto prog albums (some of which I put on here because of their significance and my enjoyment of them) and a really strong admiration for the most obscure records on this chart particularly the Mess LP which was so lovingly made and yet it was shelved because of the USSR's strict art censorship. I wonder if anyone thinks I have any terrible admissions from this chart or perhaps some more obscurities I need to check out? (and yes I know that Aphrodite's Child isn't especially obscure but let's not split hairs).
>>128241034Van der Graaf Generator and Devil Doll (both in dreams)
>>128241034My OWN! (We had one song that had a section in 7/8)
>listen to highly rated but obscure album from the 70s>poorly produced>hollow sounding>whiny vocals>soulless>boringWhy is this always the case? I understand why they got made, but I don't understand how anybody likes them.
>>128243117At least in the case of 1970s prog rock, it's usually the case that the most well known bands are genuinely the best in the genre and a lot of the obscurer stuff, even the highly rated obscure stuff isn't really that special.There's of course exceptions to this rule, but still.After the 70s the quality of prog's all over the place and usually the opposite is true.
>>128243181I agree with this but only with regards to British prog, there are a bunch of albums from other countries that I would say are just as good but aren't as popular because they weren't released to the anglo market.
>>128243215post an example of that
>>128243215I don't know. If we're excluding more "avant-garde" styles of prog rock nearly every non-Anglo 70s prog band is just a weaker imitation of British bands.
>>128243220>>128243228I think the latin american scene for example has a pretty unique take on prog that combines it with their folk music. Other obvious would be like krautrock and french avant prog stuff but those did and end up being popular in music circles.
>>128243264It's usually just prog mixed with traditional music I would say that's unique for international countries.
Alphataurus
>>128222744At this point you should just get the stems and mix it yourself.
>>128241034Leprous and Tesseract
>>128244450Good idea. Currently listening
>>128245425Any thoughts?
>the most famous band member quits to achieve success with another group>music suddenly becomes good
>>128246166I only know these guys because Paradise Lost covered themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkg2cjqkrWw
>>128245425>>128245765It's satisfying. I have 6 of their albums and this one is my favorite. It's good to hear Italian Prog that differs significantly in tone from the more well-known bands like Banco and PFM.
>>128243181>>128243220https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROUt-WTdVGkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7237Ao8CuM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd1bnYnkL2Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX5rRZiwjXUI find a lot of non-English bands hit similar peaks in terms of nailing what I would call an iconic sound; they were, however, nowhere near as prolific without a lively scene around to support them, typically putting out one good album, if that. The Garden Shed/Alphataurus-esque sort of Progarchives/RYM-overrated milquetoast copycat phenomenon isn't much of a thing outside of Italy and the UK itself. And even then, I'd argue that Banco did ELP better than ELP itself and that Zarathustra is easily a top 10 70s prog album in execution despite being very derivative on the surface.
The johnny carson bandleader plays king crimsonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBkTHskJcX0
