Were there any white American bands in the 60s or early 70s who were influenced by the Black blues and rock and roll musicians of the 50s? It seems that all the bands that were influenced by black blues music were the British bands; whereas the Americans seemed to be more influenced by country and folk, or they were avant garde or psychedelica. It seemed like all the raucuous hard hitting bands of the time were British. Did the White Americans not want to make this kind of music because it was black music? Whereas the British didn't have this prejudice and just saw it as American music? There was Bob Dylan but his music tended to be too soft, plus he was Jewish so he might already have an outsider point of view.
It seems like OP is a homosexual faggot
>>128232966what about the doors?american? yesblues? yes
>>128232966Dylan's backing band was the Paul Butterfield Blues Band on those early albums... but they fit into rock too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvNwhgaQtNE&list=PLL-NbN8uTOigTcFUT92chKVHgGbmR0B1D
>>128232996yeah, forget about them.>>128232989yes
>>128232996refer to fpbp. Obviously Elvis is the King of Rock and Roll and was heavily influenced by black stuff and wasn’t even racist himself despite claims to the contrary
>>128233050He was still working in the 60s and 70s and nowhere does OP say bands or artists that began their careers during said decades, also eat a fart
>>128232966I don't know the historical context well enough, but I think you are actually onto something here. Brits were simply ahead of the rest of the world culturally at that moment, and it made it easier for the youth of that culture to be more accepting of and interested in other cultures. Even stuff like Reggae was adopted by the British earlier than others.
>>128233079Don't be rude anon. That was my point, I just forgot to include it. Of course there was Elvis and one or two white artists in the first wave of the 50s, after that they seemed to die off. Whereas British artists would include covers of delta blues songs on their albums. Americans would burn Beatles and Stones records
>>128233112I'm American, but I'll be the first to say Brits make the best music in the world. Except the Doors mogged everyone singlehandedly. That aside, Brits weren't just being ahead in seeing thw worth in blues or black based genres. They made great rock out of their own British folk traditions as well. Some Beatles songs aren't bluesy so much as like old romantic folk ballads and stuff. Or pub sing a long type tunes. And then you get into Fairport and Zeppelin and they're delving deeper into British and Celtic folk along with blues.
>>128233112>>128233138it’s to do with racism but there are many nuances which aren’t difficult to explain but may be difficult to understand
Technically Dion's a 50's artist himself, but he made great shit in the early 60s too. Then he became a junky for awhile.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAHSLchGBEo
>>128233217https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrLbzV70jp4
Ok so the first difference is that racism in America is a cope to continue slavery, it’s claimed based on holy scripture and science (actually it’s neither). British racism is based on Imperialism (Brits are the best, everyone else is subject/also subjugated). American racism is an excuse to continue making money, British racism is a superiority complex. It is to be noted that the current trend of racism in Britain is of a different and more new kind not related to the previous imperial kind and it was not historically the predominant style of racism in Britain.The difference when it comes to music is that the American kind tends towards segregation, as history shows, whereas the British kind tends towards collaboration with the British taking the leadership role.
>>128233296It's not even that all British were the best either. Or any colonial powers. They had plebs they all shat on too, regardless of being white and fellow countrymen. And those colonial powers drafted armies and threw men in hellish wars to conquer other people. But those soldiers themselves were slaves in their own way. If they said no, they'd get shot.I'm getting way off the subject. There is racism, but I think the bigger problem are class issues. Just about everyone but elites were fucked in the past. I'd still say blacks got the shit end of the stick, and maybe some lower class whites still looked down them just to feel better about their own shit situation.
>>128232966-Doors obviously-Captain Beefheart obviously-Velvet Underground to an extent (songs like Run Run Run and White Light)Most American bands of the 60s were influenced by blues and rock n roll, even if they didn’t overtly sound like it. Look at The Beach Boys: the band with the most whitewashed sound. Even they covered Chuck Berry and wrote songs like “Do you remember the guys who gave us rock n roll?” The influence is a lot more apparent in British bands at the time because it was part of the mod and teddy boy subcultures.
>Black blues and rock and roll No such thing.
>>128233370Yeah I think we should go for a coffee sometime, we’re going to agree it’s race but not all racism is the same and it’s also classism and again it’s not all the same. I think Brits are overall on average more likely to adapt to and integrate in some outside influences, for all the above reasons and also because they’re an island nation (of sorts) and that kind of inclusivity is an islander trait too whereas the Americans are a continental nation and with the latent segregation there it’s not as common for outside influences. You can see with the white artists in America that were influenced by black music (like gospel, blues etc.) those people by and large were brought up in an integrated society, with the British like the Rolling Stones for example they just really got into the music first and then sought out to meet the people who made it. Later in Britain the punk, ska, two tone scene is all integrated from the beginning. Things change later in America too
>>128233410Captain Beefheart is disqualified for being Sporkcore and the VU seem more Avant Garde to me
>>128232966I dont know but I fucking love Led Zeppelin
The Mothers of Inventions - Freak Out
listen to this asap
>>128232966ever heard of ZZ Top or the Allman Brothers? Maybe you should think before you post.
American groups were already taking rock to higher, whiter, heights. Whereas these English fairies were still getting excited over ol’ Jigaboo Jackson tying a shoelace to a stick in 1915 and trying to emulate that monkey noise.
>>128234541THE NIGHT TIME WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHITS THE RIGHT TIME
>>128234945>ol’ Jigaboo Jackson tying a shoelace to a stick in 1915this always cracks me up
>>128234618but were they seriously playing the blues before they heard young brit invasion groups do it?OP raises an interesting question.One of the more interesting quotes I heard was from a member of CCR who said they were really the only rock band in their area before the Beatles broke thru and then there were scores of bands overnight.So it might more have to do with the fact that dance/rock music was much more of a popular youth pastime in UK than in USA in early 60's. There were probably 50 plus bands in Liverpool when Beatles started out for instance.
>>128232966The Mothers of InventionCaptain BeefheartAll of the pre-Beatles rock bands that no one talks about because people are too lazy to do basic research.
>>128232966The Beach Boys were very, VERY influenced by Chuck Berry early on, but it's an influence that pretty quickly faded away as their style evolved
>>128232966Johnny WinterPaul ButterfieldMike BloomfieldSteve Miller Band (early)
>>128232966The fucking Sonics bro
>>128232966Beefheart, vu, monks, sonics, stooges
>>128236121op said 60s and early 70s so it would have to be a 50s white blues band to satisfy that like Elvis?
>>128234945It was the Brits who said let's forget about blacks entirely and invented prog
>>128232966Chicago. Grand Funk Railroad. Grateful Dead
>>128232966This three-CD set was just recently released, it's a mix of original blues niggas and white guyshttps://www.discogs.com/release/34661629-Various-Rollin-And-Tumblin-American-Blues-1965-1971
>>128232966>white American bands>posts a British bandjust goes to show that OP is a /pol/nigger/ tourist that is most likely brown
>>128233112>"ahead">imitating black americans from 30 years earlier
>>128232966Canned Heat
There were hundreds of blues rock and r&b bands in the USA OP is just ignoring examples to make his point right.
>>128232966man I never realized how much Charlie Watts looked like Anton Chigurh
>>128239417That was the point silly
>>128232966Plebs never know. WTF.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqa1s4jhkQ8
>>128239417Comprehension: 0/10
>>128232966British (English mainly) are just better at most things. They're more intelligent. They're descendants of winners. The losers were the ones who had to run away to uncharted wilderness and hope for the best, rather than stay and starve.
>>128246583>winners>lost the colonieslol
>>128232966People mentioning the doors as if they were some canned heat type boogie band and not a weird ass half arty, half jazzy band with pop tendencies and some blues vibes
>>128246607>meme is a burger kid (many such cases)All empires are born, grow, then die. Guess which one is dying right now? Clue: populated by stupid fat trannies
>>128248372>Guess which one is dying right now?Thing is, the US is the only empire that hates being one and engages in self-cutting. Only one that ever did this. Probably won't happen with the next or the one after that. It was an empire full of different minds and peoples and ideals and that kept it relatively tame.
>>128233296>>128233370>>128233630Fucking faggot replying to himself how pathetic
>>128248372>toddler tier cope on a music boardlol. Go listen to the Allman Brothers Band, mate.
>>128248372>All empires are born, grow, then die. Gambler's Fallacy>Clue: populated by stupid fat tranniesAah yes, fat trannies, the most powerful race on planet earth
>>128232966no OP you’re just a totally retarded zoomer is the problemin reality american bands were very bluesy during that era https://youtu.be/ixqofv-Oi74https://youtu.be/wjpXld_pcighttps://youtu.be/TsjcQoJ8W4U
>>128248986Firstly you chose the only non bluesy song on that album secondly, I said before Beefheart and Zappa are disqualified for being sporkcore. Thirdly I never said Americans didn't play Blues but you'd concede those bands you posted happened later than say the Stones or The Beatles. At that time American charts were dominated by corny sappy music
>>128248986>american bands>cream
>>128249076>secondly, I said before Beefheart and Zappa are disqualified for being sporkcore.lmao, impressionist lyricism STILL filters autists to this very day, you love to see it
>>128249207I actually own that album but he is sporkcore
this nigga is right dayumm
>>128246607we didnt LOSE we gave up on them cos it was useless hanging onto them anymore. they served their purpose.
