Would Rage Against The Machine be considered woke and cringe by kids today?
>>128235318>Hate Israel>Hate cops>Hate landlords>Hate the CIA>Hate BlackRockYes.
>>128235318Erm but America is woke actually because they defeated daddy hitler
>>128235318Everything about this band screams “controlled opposition”
>>128235348I look like this.
>>128235318You hate RATM because they are wokeI hate RATM because their music is fucking liquid trash and wokeWe are not the same.
>>128235318Like most Commie LARPers, Tom Morello is not from a poor background. He grew up in a well-off family, went to an Ivy League, and he complains because he can't get preferential seating at restaurants.
>>128235318>burning us flag is le woke
>>128235455What about zach?
>>128235318>that tweetno one says this
FUCK YOU I'LL GET VAXXED WHEN YOU TELL ME
>>128235318I considered them woke and cringe back then
>>128235808Upper middle class, grandfather fought in the Mexican Revolution which was helped along by the US government. Guess being a useful idiot runs in the family
>>128235318Hilariously they weren't considered particularly radical back in the day. Hell even the wu-tangs I hate whitey 5 percenter schtick was fairly common place back then.Which goes to show far to the right the "culcha" has swung.
>>128235359People have been saying this for a long time and I’ve seen no evidence
>centrist conservative mistakes his apolitical past as a golden age of civilization>leftist mistakes his wing's unchecked advances under the cloak of liberalism as proof of being on the right side of historyWhen are we going to have some more interesting conversations?>>128235455The commissars are more equal than you, prole.
>>128235996honestly from an eye test perspective I can certainly see that.They were on a big label and pushed on the biggest rock stations at the time, they even got on one of the biggest movies of the century. Big music videos.I can def see it, but IDK how true it might be.
>>128236039Yeah but all that can be explained by making money and from the band’s perspective they’re not going to just say fuck off we don’t want exposure because that’s kind of the point isn’t it. If they are a co it’s a very good job hiding it, they seem to be on their message (socialism, self determination, anti imperialism) and they aren’t leading people into some fake bullshit version of what they preach so on balance I’ll believe they aren’t until there’s a leak or something
>>128235318Terribly aged nineties stomp rock with some kind of Lenny Kravitz mystery race rasta creature spouting dumb political clichés for clueless teenagers, it doesn't get much worse than this. You can see these kinds of mongs walking around the city some times with those shoes that have toes in them. It's that sort of person. They're not raging about anything that isn't unimportant and are very much part of the machine in the process. In fact, it's bands like these that are a direct cause of alternative music not being able to cross over into the mainstream anymore. Every dumb cunt artist shares their same astroturfed views now anyway. I'd love to see their rider, lol. Disingenuous hacks.I wish Mark E. Smith were alive and all these dumb cunts (and in particular all their dumb fans and enablers) were dead.
>>12823599090s music was just edgier bro
>>128236157>some kind of Lenny Kravitz mystery race rasta creature
>>128235318
>>128236157seething chud detected
>>128236157You forgot>*bomb*
>>128236252Basedfield
>>128236258kek, nice reply, about as original and one dimensional as your average ratm song
>>128236345I strongly doubt you’ve listened through a whole ratm album, why would you though right you know you aren’t going to like it and that’s fine. What’s not cool is having a strong opinion on anything without actually knowing it, think about that
>>128235318Zach was in a hardcore punk band before he was in RATM so it makes sense for his views to be very far left, very extremist, and very outspoken. They were woke before being woke was a thing. The trans thing wasn't as big as it is now so their wokeness was fuck cops, kill cops, white man bad. 0
>rage against the machine>by voting democrat ok
>>128235318This guy’s quoting nobody. Everyone knows this band has always been part of the left wing machine
I unironically enjoy them.I like mid paced powerful grooves.I like morello's mix of generic blues rock riffs with silly noises.The bass players tone is god tier.I like zach's scream, intensity and lack of any humour or irony.I like the footage of them tearing up festivals in the 90s.I don't give a single shit about politics, they could be singing about fucking bitches or praising hitler and I'd probably feel the same way about them.
>>128236501https://youtu.be/Q053KTsW0Po
>>128236381I know Id hate their music just from looking at them desu
>>128235318Shut up Tom.
>>128236617>Black birth giversLMAO...... Being a liberal must be exhausting it's like your walking on eggshells every time you speak.
>All hell they can't stop us nowWell, no. They can. But I like how they performed outside the DNC in 2000. They got in the mix like that. Very of-its-time crazy L.A. punk leftism.https://youtu.be/rWbGi1lBFiI
>>128236002Once at least half of America is killed in a war. When the retarded herd animals die, the intelligent will have ample room to breathe.
>>128235318>be vaxxxed for our shows or get outSo...fuck me I'll do you what you tell me?
>>128236381>I strongly doubt you’ve ate a whole pile of shitI'm not even that anon (I've listened at least to the debut in full, years ago tho), but so what?>What’s not cool You sound new. Few on this site will care about your moral hangups, and none will entertain them when you finger-wag about it. >is having a strong opinion on anything without actually knowing itMost people do this, and where they resist it and try anyway, their assumptions are proven right, at least to themselves. You probably do it. Very few people never do this. That's not rationally ideal, but it's how mankind works.
>>128236002Thank you for being the only reasonable person in this thread
>>128236753>Being a liberal must be exhausting it's like your walking on eggshells every time you speak.It genuinely is that's why they're all neurotic as fuck and on a cocktail of antidepressants to keep them from having a mental breakdown in public.
>>128236430gross, I vote PSL
>>128240856>PSLcringe commie shitI only vote Forward Party. Join the Yang Gang chuds
>>128235318They truly lived in a fascist state
>>128235318burning the flag is unironically bad and they should be jailed for it just for shit and giggles.>hurr durr i dont believe in the nation>le nation is le bad>that flag is the flag of the union>the union that fought against slaveryMight as well fly the confederate flag if you gonna burn that one. It's so tiresome to see fags make statements like that because they know they wont get shot for it. I hope they riot so we can shoot them in a more legal way but i doubt they would have the balls to appear in the frontlines, they are just performative fags.
>LIGHTS OUT>TRANSGENDER RADIO>(SLICE MY COCK UP)
>>128237571uncool post
>>128235318Back then, being left-aligned was the cool thing to do. Nowadays, being right-aligned is the cool thing to do. That's simply because the western narrative has experience a massive shift to the left last decade or two. What in the 90s was considered moderate left is now called 'alt right'.
PFIZERS ON PARADE!!!HUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHFUCK YOU BETTER TAX ALL YOUR DOSESFUCK YOU BETTER GET FUCKIN BOOSTEDFUCK YOU YOU BETTER LISTEN TO WORLD ECONOMIC FORUMUGGGGHHHHH YEAHHHHHH
All you faggots would be making fun of antivaxxers 10 years ago
>>128244020Things move around like a kind of pendulum. What's going to happen now is a swing back to the left, but it'll be more center-left that's a little bit woke but not too much.
>>128244292Tell me how vaccines for shit like tetanus and MMR are the same as the corona jabs which were rushed to production.
>>128246858It's literally the same thing, injecting yourself with something to keep you from getting sick
I really don’t care if people don’t want to get vaxxed it’s a personal decision and if you can’t figure out if it’s safe then the logical best course for you is to do nothing. I don’t need you to tell me either way
>>128235318RATM has always and will always be considered cringe as fuck
>>128246902Covid vaccines didn't do that.They lessened symptoms but only at the beginning and later not even at all.
>>128246943Except when retards don't get vaxxed they can get me sick, it's not a personal decision
>>128235318They were considered gay and cringe back then too.
>>128246858>>128247003I actually agree that mmr vaccines are iffy and I don't take them, but most people here talk like theyre made of uranium, and extend that doubt to vaccines as a whole. The motivation is not real concern its just owning the libs, and being snarky. The exact archetype of an anti anti vaxxer 10 years ago.
>>128235347fpbp>>128236252Didn't Limp Bizkit tour with Metallica at one point without Wes?
>>128247017Except the unvaxxed aren’t getting you sick and the vaxxed can still spread corona
>>128235318It always was woke and cringe
>>128236617>birth-givers
>>128252256The vaxxed wouldn't spread corona if they didn't get it from the unvaxxed
>that blindingly retarded comment abovelet this thread archive
>>128244292I still do. I also make fun of people insisting that gene therapy and vaccination are the same thing.
>>128254420fr, they don't even know about crispr-cas9
It’s like with the facemasks, you’re wearing it so your germs aren’t spreading. That’s why they wear them when doing surgery and stuff, so they aren’t spreading germs onto the patient. Then we see too kinds of retards, the first kind thinks the mask is protecting him so he starts wearing a helmet too and shit, the second kind just doesn’t understand germ theory and is getting angry about being told to do something he doesn’t understand. Really the more important things more important than any mask stuff was to not touch your face, don’t hang around close to people for 15 minutes, keep yourself healthy so your immune system is good, and wash your hands. It became political on both sides and both sides were lying, bunch of people freaking out over toilet paper, getting into arguments with family. Then there’s nobody talking about where this virus came from don’t you worry about that enjoy your free porn
>hate upstairs boomer neighbour>get covid, wipe my snot filled tissue on her doorknob>one week later she is taken to hospitalsadly didn't die though
>>128236381I have. I owned a few of their albums in the late 90s before selling them. Disregarding the lyrics and their stances, I just don't think Morello's guitar tricks aged very well and find him historically overrated. Rhythm section was good for a 90s rock band.
>>128257152>Morello's guitar tricksHe rode the tide of using power tools on guitars, which was an EVH thing in the 70s-80s. He was probably the last to exploit that to any degree of success, because that stuff fell off hard in the 90s. Really hard.
How is Tom Morello so much of a lefty, as in actual Twitter opinions lefty, but is also friends with über-chuds like Ted Nugent? It's nice to see, but still very strange to me.
>>128258651They're in the same industry. They're both artsy liberal libertines.
>>128252608That’s not how that works
>>128235853Weren't people supposed to be dropping like flies by now? The billions of vax'ed people seem to be doing fine. And no, "b-but my uncle knew a guy who knew a guy that died and it must have been the vax!" doesnt count
>>128259380tbf, they were supposed to be dropping like flies FROM covid. That never happened, either.
>>128235318All rock music is woke garbage All rockers do is endlessly revolt against <current thing on agenda to hate>
>>128235347>they love Israel since their music industry masters are all jews>they love cops since they use them as protection>they love landlords because they're all wealthy now>they love the CIA since it was taken over by commies like themselves>they love BlackRock because it's also run by jewsNice try though.
>>128235318they only rage against GOP machines. They were big during bush 1 & 2. Obama not so much rage.
>>128259850Was it more of a gentle, timid seething against the machine during the O years?
>>128259461No, around early march 2020 it was estimated ~2-3% morbidity and take into account the co-morbidities it was never anticipated to be deadly for the general population and wasn’t. It was about twice as deadly as the flu (including complications)
>>128235318I've never seen a single person claim RatM aren't political. Only people calling them out for their bullshit "anti-establishment" facade. Their music sucks dick, too.
>>128235318I'm a big metalfag, and I really don't like their music. The cringe retard politics in the lyrics is just a shit cherry on top of the shit cake. I'd absolutely be willing to overlook it, if the music sounded good, but it doesn't.
>>128259596most based /mu/ post i've seen in fucking months, i kneel
>>128259596>republicans in complete control of the government>but somehow the CIA are still le commieswhy are rightoids still stuck in the biden era regarding the government? it's like they don't want to admit they can't play the persecution complex angle and that the government is out to get them anymore
>>128264219It’s not like Trump winning means that every part of the government follows suit. The FBI are commies too.
>>128264219They can't function without resorting to scapegoats, it's going to end up biting them in the ass when they lose the midterms because they still can't get the government opened again without blaming everyone else. When MTG is the sanest one in the circus you know things are fuckedmusic
politics is all just schizos now isnt it
>>128259850Evil Empire was during Clinton, I looked it up
>>128264852>It’s not like Trump winning means that every part of the government follows suit. yes the most powerful arms of the government are still somehow infiltrated by commies under trump. guess trump isn't that powerful then. listen to your pathetic cope lmao>The FBI are commies too.harassing leftist college students saying bad things about israel is commie behavior now, ok
>>128236157>/mu/ is a commie infested board because music is literally controlled by the jewish/israeli mafia, glad to see that people can see through the astroturfing to the fact that any and all singers/musicians that tout any kind of political speech that is reiterated by the corporate class is fake. Taylor Swift being political? Fake & gay, she didn't start until 2020 when her jew song writers and producers cornered her into it. Is it any wonder she married to one of the only political niggerball players "Vax man" from the Kansas City niggerball team that always has the refs paid off to be on their side? Or that every single musician who says anything political either gets a confirmation from corporations or outright disowned and debanked for anything else
...People like Rage Against the Machine?
>>128268266>guess trump isn't that powerful then.Yes. Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Obviously he didn't fire literally everyone in the federal government and replace them with his guys
>>128260812>For the unvaccinated, you’re looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.
>>128236617>brith-giversSo, mothers?
>>128271541No, some fathers are capable of giving birth.
>>128271552Nope. That's not how it worksYWNBAW
they were always considered cringe
>>128236157dont drag kravitz into this. he is cool
>>128236617is this satire?
>>128271278my government and health authorities said no such thing
>>128271685What country?
>>128236617gotta be fakewhy would he sabotage his own point for 7 trannies
>>128259380This is irrelevant to the point. You can’t headline a band that’s explicitly anti-machine and then shill for big pharma for free.
in the 90s record labels put them in every walmart throughout the country because teen angst was hot shitit isn't a surprise tom felt indebted to the machine
>>128271821Being against the establishment doesn't mean mindlessly fighting against everything they do like a child. Preventing millions of deaths through vaccines and protective measures was in fact a good thing.
>>128235318perhaps the epitome of bands that didnt age well
>>128271986> Being against the establishment doesn't mean mindlessly fighting against everything they do like a child. Unless the establishment is republican then it’s your sworn duty
