Reddit fags make me want to kill myself
>Reddit fags make me want to kill myselfSame, which is why I simply don't take anything they say seriously and don't browse their website or farm screenshots of their weekass ragebait.
Hmmm redditfag kinda cooked with this one thoughbeit
Idk OP maybe Mitski or Soccer Mommy is more your speed
>>128251634Hello bongorituals
>>128251612He's right about indie musicians being talentless but that "inherited the torch passed from classical and jazz composers" part is ludicrous. You have to be highly stupid, gullible and tasteless to say so. I fucking hate video games.
>>128251612where is the lie though? Video Game composers were a one-man operation and they also had to know the technology to convert it into the video game format.
>>128251612Oh boy this fucking bait again>>>/v/ermin and stay there.
>>128251612There is some Video Game composers that are actually skilled but not many. Yoko Shinomura comes to mind or Michiru Yamanewww.youtube.com/watch?v=uLrwNjr8C5Y
>>128251612that redditor is correctclassical >>>>>> video game music >>>>>>>> modern non-classical of any kind (yes top 40 pop and hip hop and your precious indie releases are the same level of irrelevancy)
>>128251680Are you fucking kidding me? OPs example was Koji Kondo for Christs sake. He wrote maybe 2-3 memorable melodies in his entire career and was notorious for relying on samples in Ocarina of Time. That fact he's considered some gold standard when it comes to game music just shows that gamefags have no fucking standards whatsoever, the best game music is either Koji Kondo because he wrote the Mario and Zelda theme or it's some hack that makes forgettable pastiches of real classical music.
>>128251625^smart fella^>>128251612^fart smella^
>>128251743The redditard is wrong but you're talking out of your ASS
>>128251612>Why yes, I love checking on sites I definitely don't like for opinions I definitely don't care about from people who I'm definitely not obsessed about to see if they agree or disagree with an opinion I have about something no one else cares about so I can feel the validation no one wants to give me. How can you tell?
>>128251784Find the lie anon. Koji Kondo is a lesser version of John Williams. Williams could at least write more then 3 memorable melodies and didn't need to rip from a bunch of random sample CDs
>>128251743he's done every main-line mario and zelda game, and each one of those games has multiple memorable songs each.
>>128251816>he's done every main-line mario and zelda gameNo he hasn't, he hasn't been solely involved in either franchise since the 90s. He wasn't even involved whatsoever in Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdoms impressionist soundtracks
>>128251816The last mainline Zelda game Koji Kondo was ever involved in was Wind Waker and even then he was just a creative advisor to Toru Minegishi
>>128251612>Videogame composers are much more skilled than your average indie musicianMaybe not "much more" but true for the most part (key term AVERAGE indie-musician)>and have basically inherited the torch passed from classical and jazz composersThat torch has smoldered if that's the case
>>128251803Oh no no no...
Nobody who listens to videogame OSTs would give a fuck about them if they weren't linked to a videogame they already liked99% of videogame OSTs are unremarkable on their own
>>128251803>Koji Kondo is a lesser version of John WilliamsJohn Williams is the second most Academy Award winning person in history, don't you dare even compare him to that hack
I'm convinced that people who think that videogame music is even comparable to classical music are people that simply do not listen to enough music
>>128251950>muh jew awards Go back
>>128251849>>128251896yes I know I wasn't being literal and I know he was less involved I just forgot to add it last. Regardless, he still had 20+ years of consistent quality output.
>>128251948Ive never played this game before and I think this song is GOAT.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvTAPRfvt90&list=PLErsx10Ke4uxRXKIhM5wBYzrtXBq-6VEN&index=16
>>128251975>Regardless, he still had 20+ years of consistent quality output.>*Writes 3 melodies in the 80s and a bunch of slop nobody remembers*>*Spends the rest of his career milking those same melodies ad nauseum*>*Gets hailed as some God of game music*
>>128252013I disagree with your numbers, but pretty much all video game composers peak with a few games then do nothing memorable afterward.
Why do you care so much about Reddit? Could you just, I don't know, stop browsing there?
Nobuo Uematsu deserves our respect
>>128252109Reddit people are so gay and cringe it hurts. Society is fucked
>>128252261yeah and their stupid awards, karma upvotes, and bot accounts is why nobody in 2025 really checks the site.
>>128252109users on this site need to know what reddit thinks about a thing before they form their own opinion
>>128251612Wouldn't it make more sense to kill them?
>>128251612Imagine listening to music for the notes
>>128251612>Anime and videos games music :^OLMAO........
>>128251612>video game composersyep, like Marty O'Donell for creating an amazing soundtrack to Halo! Wait... he's a trumptard chud now? I FUCKING HATE HALO AND VIDEO GAME MUSIC!!!
music isn't a contest oh and btw if youre unironically participating in this who is better than whom debate then you dont like music
it has 3 upvotes
>>128251948https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oquad3rnZSI
>>128251948https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiMmZYx-eXA
>>128251612They're right though.
I know this is a bait thread but I'll ask it anyway, since when have the majority of indie musicians been considered skilled musicians or theoryfags? It's mostly dimwits and rich kids dicking around.
>>128251612That Reddit poster is correct in a sense but wholly wrong in their appraisal of video game composers. Game composers are indeed much more skilled than your average indie or pop musician, and in a sense have inherited the torch from classical and jazz composers, but this is the result of a continuous degradation of the arts and its capitulation to market forces. The most skilled game composers, had they been born in a different era, may have legitimately been fantastic classical or jazz composers. But as the mechanisms of capitalism drive us away from more cerebral forms, we are left with a world where genius is relegated to the commercial and mundane. Once where composers wrote in service of the church or aristocracy, now they write for Nintendo and their shareholders.
>>128253745Holy shit you're dense and pretentious >inherited the torch from classical and jazz composersThey went to schools that specialized in music production for media. They're no more skilled than your average television music producers or Hollywood house bands. These people are no more talented than the Wrecking Crew
>>128253765Okay? My point still stands that in a different environment, one that encouraged them towards actual artistry, they could've had the potential to be decent composers. But we don't live in that world, the structures that exist today make it so that the modern Beethoven or Bach aren't conceivable.
>>128251612VG composers have it easy. They were usually raised wealthy, have extensive classical training. And all they have to do is dumb down a Chopin melody and loop it and every reddit fag thinks they’re a genius.Not Grant Kirkhope, though. He’s the salt of the earth.
>>128253916Retard, these people were never destined for greatness, they are some savants that couldn't reach their full potential, their full potential is in full display for all to hear. These aren't classical musicians, and I don't even think any of them would argue with that. What they do exists for an entirely different reason that classical music does.
>>128253947>they are some savants*aren't
>>128253947>These aren't classical musicians, and I don't even think any of them would argue with that. What they do exists for an entirely different reason that classical music does.I'm not suggesting that they make classical music or that they're anywhere on par with classical composers... You're being obtuse and failing to understand my point. If you don't like me comparing them to classical music then substitute that for fucking jazz composers like Count Basie and Benny Goodman ffsThe point is that we're all being kneecapped by current conditions, there's no modern day Mozart or Duke Ellington because they can't possibly exist today. The system doesn't allow for it, it drives us towards garbage.
>>128251612What a pretentious faggot. Koji is just one old japanese guy. Not comparable to any western game music artist.
reddit AND gamer? that's two strikes
>>128253745sovl crvshing analysis
>>128251612The first 12 words tell the truth. The rest is nonsense.
Video games music isn't music
>>128251612>have bascially inherited the torch passed from classical and jazz composersbesides the fact that jazz and classical music are from completely different branchesthere are still composers of orchestral music and jazz
>>128251948>99% of videogame OSTs are unremarkable on their ownBut to be fair, they aren't supposed to be experienced on their own. It's kind of the same story with film score.
>>128251973Yeah stuff like the Dark Souls OST sounds impressive when you hear it accompying the boss you're fighting, but if you listen to it on its own and compare it to real classical music it is tastelessly bombastic and over the top to a comical degree
>>128251612He's right tho
>>128257168It's shallow and pedantic
I just listened to Soccer Mom and it's pretty soulless
>>128251743He did starfox bro
>>128251612Reddit is for Disney adults and troons at this point and that's about it
>ctrl+f>yuzo koshiro>zero resultsCome on /mu/
>>128251612Stick around to Kid Rock or Ted Nugent, you fucking /pol/shitter.
For me it's Wandering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JtTscKXXFA
>>128253765Wrecking Crew were based as hell
>>128251948I've never played a silent hill game but some of their instrumental tracks are amazing.
>>128257168It doesn't sound impressive in the game, Dark souls is just overrated so the music is overrated in turn, with all the choir drizzling like syrup over too little of pancake. The proper way to play that is turning off the music and listening to metal
>>1282516121st paragraph is typical adolescent pretension. 2nd paragraph i personally agree with, rockists are very easily impressed by even the most shallow application of "exotic" tunings or voicings
>>128251612The distance between Jeremy Soule and the rest of video game composers, is the same distance between Nikola Tesla and the other electrical-engineers of his time
>>128257168Agreed>>128257192Also agreed>>128260623Extremely agreed
>>128251666Based trips and beat me to it, that passing the torch comment implies jazz and classical aren't still doing things far more advanced than digitized action figure jingles, or, worse, that these mid soundtracks have somehow replaced contemporary classical and jazz. just lol.
red edit death camp when
>>128258300literally passing the classical torch lmao
>>128251948>99% of videogame OSTs are unremarkable on their ownSo a much smaller percentage than music in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPg3d9z3ccE
>>128261322it's roughly the same, so wrong
>>128260873Reminder that introducing a sitar into otherwise normal tunes was groundbreaking in the 60s and made boomer rock fans shit their pants
>>128252697only way I could be a fan of the mars volta
>>128251612there’s nothing good about bleep blaap bloop elevator music
>>128251612>Stick around to Kid Rock or Ted Nugent, you fucking /pol/shitter.
