Is it an apology to criminality anyhow?
>>128252647I don't think so, one of the lyrics describes someone sitting on a stone crying and being told to find a wooden chair as a partner. Jailhouse rock is basically a more upbeat blues song if that makes any sense, it describes a group of sad prisoners getting together for just one night of happiness.
>>128252701Don't you think that maybe the criminals were presented as "nice" or "cool"?
>>128252954I think it humanized them, I don't think it made them look particularly cool or uncool or even nice
besides the 50s was before gang and drug culture had really become a thing in prisons
>>128252978Got it.>>128253236I didn't know that. So who were the type of person who generally ended up in jail back then?
>>128253236That's...completely wrong, the song literally mentions real life bootlegging gangs
The movie for Jailhouse Rock sucks ass, unfortunately. First 20 minutes are good and the rest is a real slog. But it features a stripped down version of the song Don’t Leave Me Now, which I like a lot.
>>128253390>I didn't know that. So who were the type of person who generally ended up in jail back then?thieves, murderers, moonshiners, scam artists
>>128253390>>128254003there were occasional violent crimes, but nowhere near the level of later. and kids were drunks at worst. kids had brawls and shit, but not straight gangster shit as we know it. they looked fucking cool as hell too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt7l30ejNS0
>>128254030lmao, you don't know shit. >"kids were drunks at worst"Kids would often abuse weight loss medication that contained methamphetamine that were sold over the counter, it was called obetrolling, after the name of the drug Obetrol, there are many, many examples of shit like this happening. The 50s wasn't a Coca-Cola ad dude
>>128254030>the gangs in the 50s were just some goofy punks it wasn’t bad!In the 50s they were prescribing people meth for anxiety, dude.
>>128254079>>128254094we were on the same wave length, nice
>>128254079>>128254094wasnt a bunch of retarded nigs tho
>>128254107You’re a fag
>>128254079>>128254094watch the video i linked. that's what i'm referring to about 50s gangs.
>>128254107>wasnt a bunch of retarded nigs thoExcept for you know, the Cicero Race Riot, Mansfield school incident, Hayes Pond.etcIt's odd you even bring up blacks because they actually made up a higher share of the population in the 50s than they do today
>>128254128NTA, but see >>128253684
>>128254128I watched the video. There were still real, kill all witnesses, hardened gangsters in the 50s. The world was not more innocent then.>>128254146He’s just a neocon twerp that thinks the 50s was all cool cars and apple pie. Im white and conservative, but revisionists are fags. The world was hard for most people back then. The happy music was an escape.
>>128254146>It's odd you even bring up blacks because they actually made up a higher share of the population in the 50s than they do todayOne guy I listened to.. Thomas Sowell.. leftists will probably hate that I mention him, but hear me out...He said growing up in the 40s (and I think early 50s) in Harlem, black people still left doors unlocked and didn't even worry about rampant crime. a lot more families intact and church life too.
>>128254176What's annoying about these Golden Age Fallacy fags is that they strip a decade of its character and soul and just make everyone out to be some sterile retard> the 50s was all cool cars lmao, just as long as you don't mention the Ford Edsel
>>128254176>There were still real, kill all witnesses, hardened gangsters in the 50s. The world was not more innocent then.that's adult mafia shit. i'm just talking about teenagers who listened to Elvis and Dion. Come on now.
>>128254193In his defense, I think he made those statements during a time when violent crime was higher than it is even today between the 70s and 90s
>>128254176>He’s just a neocon twerp that thinks the 50s was all cool cars and apple pie. Im white and conservative, but revisionists are fags. The world was hard for most people back then. The happy music was an escape.says the guy who also complains about the boomers ruining home-buying
>50s gangsta musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7HK4ZquaU
>>128254239reddit tier comment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyq4HZZ4H50
Crime back then was mostly confined to the designated containment zones where white trash were warehoused in to keep them away from everyone else as compared to the 70s where it was a nationwide epidemic. There used to be the joke about "the kid from the wrong side of the tracks" for a reason.
>>128253886Not a surprise, all his movies sucked
>>128252647have you ever watched the film? The scene where this song isplayed is the single gayest event ever put on film, without exception. You have prisoners dancing and swinging from poles.No idea who thought this was a good idea. Even Tim Curry would be embarrassed by it.
Frankie was the only singer who became a decent actor.
>>128252647YES. Ever since "The Wild One" Hollywood has been pushing criminality down our throats. Finally a fellow noticer.
>>128256581in the pre-Beatles era it was common for singers to indulge in acting partially to promote their songs and some like Doris Day ended up being more actor than singer. also have a chuckle at how Perry Como tried acting in his earlier days and admitted that he completely failed at it.
>>128253236>>128253684Prisons were still segregated then, you idiot. This means there wasn't nearly as much rape and violence in them, since they weren't dominated by race gangs and the constant threat of race war. Especially since we also were much faster in executing people, as opposed to now, when we take decades to dispatch with even our worst and most brazen offenders.
>>128257071>since they weren't dominated by race gangs andgang culture mostly came out of the late 60s leftist militant movements
>>128256530Not true. Blue Hawaii is quite entertaining. Jailhouse Rock was just straight boring. There’s a difference.
>>128256581>Frankie was the only singer who became a decent actor.Bing Crosby...
>>128256581Uh, Ice Cube? Helloo?!
>>128257100Gang culture in prisons is 100% based on their desegregation. This is barely a secret, and obvious to anyone who looks at when the nation's prison gangs got started; but people are too embarrassed to admit this is what happened, so no one talks about it.
