Material explanation?Is it because rappers and hip hop producers have run out of USAID bucks?
Idk this is the best news i have gotten in a very long time :3
>>128273072Music is just pop for women now
>>128273112why did women stop listening to rap
>>128273072Holy shit based!
>>128273142George Floyd
>>128273072justchecked its all pop and kpop with a few country-pop songs sprinkled inbut there is actually one hip hop song in the top 40 which is lofi hip-hop/alt r&b artist joji with his "pixelated kisses" song where he combines rage (hip-hop) with industrial and sings over it.hes not rapping on it though.
>>128273072Rappers are cancelling tours left and right as well, they can't move tickets because the reputation of live rap shows is in the toilet
Most "rappers" can't even rhyme these days Most of the music that hits the charts is nearly unlistenable and SoundCloud is barely better There are exceptions but normies ain't being exposed to it
>>128274466How did K-pop become such an international sensation? Feels like just 4 years ago, K-pop was still for weirdos. Now it's quite literally everywhere.
>>128274606Koreans have perfected pandering to people. Also Western Pop fucking sucks nowadays
>>128273072>Is it because rappers and hip hop producers have run out of USAID bucks?Close but not quite. More like the criminal outfits funding rap got RICO-ed since the late 2010s.
>>128274482That too.Rap is FINALLY dead after over 50 years of polluting Western Civilization.The CIA has seen another massive failure.
>>128274654Correct. Most of hip hop is simply money laundering and most rappers’ careers are merely fronts for the gangs they run with. Look at Cardi B, a known Blood who denies being one. Her recent album flopped hard.
>>128273072>>128270587
>>1282746546ix9ine flat out told the Feds "this was something we thought we could market." ie. it was an advertisement for Threeway.
>>128273142Women never listened to rap outside of like drake and now it’s not cool to like drake anymore so now they just listen to charli xcx and cheat on their boyfriends with me
Nature is healing!
>>128274350Explain the connection.
>>128274654>>128274677>>128274700Doesn't really seem to add up though. Lil Durk, Young Thug, and Gunna were just three rappers who were charting relatively high six or seven years ago. It's not like Future, 21 Savage, Carti, etc. are involved in RICO cases (not yet, at least).
>>128273072its because trump is deporting all the illegals. 50+% of guys like nba youngboy's listenership were illegals
>>128279556Why would deporting illegals suddenly make them stop listening to rap music?
>>128279569billboard 100 measures music consumption in the US, genius
>>128273072This is 100% due to the new changes in how the charts are calculated. They abruptly removed Lady Gaga's Die With a Smile from the charts even though it was very high up. I'm guessing these changes are being made to prevent future album bombs and also shit like Christmas music resurfacing.
>>128279556>the only people that listen to hiphop are illegals this is some very bizarre cope
>>128280018i literally gave you an estimate of 50%, how did you get 100% of hip hop listeners from that, are you retarded
>>128273072Maybe now's the chance for Neo-Soul to make a comeback.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWzzkD78ETA
>>128279644They already had a system in place where older songs had less impact in the charts, but they recently made it way harder for older songs to chart. Die with a Smile would have been number 11 this week, but now it's out of the top 100 because it's over a year old and has been on the charts for too long, so in the new system it needed to be in the top 10 to chart. The excuse they gave is that there is too much competition nowadays and new songs are not getting a fair representation, which is kinda bullshit because the hot 100 is supposed to represent what people are listening to, not to give newer songs better representation. I think this will be the first year in decades where Mariah Carey's christmas songs won't make it to the top 10 because of the new changes.
>>128280489Yup. I figured this had everything to do with the fact newer music isn't charting as much anymore, and nearly all of the big songs from this year were big songs from last year.
>>128280583Billboard is an useless metric nowadays anyways. It has had too much emphasis on radio play and premium streams. I think radio play account for 30-40% of a song's impact in the charts, despite only 15% of music being consumed by radio nowadays. As far as premium streaming, that's only good if you want to calculate how profitable a song is, but like I said, the top 100 is supposed to gauge what everyone is listening to, not to give more emphasis to people that pay 20 dollars a month for streaming subscriptions. And they don't count music consumed through sites like youtube or tiktok at all, even though that's how the a huge portion of genz and gen alpha listens to music and has been for the better part of a decade.
>>128280297RIP D'Angelo.
Yet we've had 10/10 releases this year from Clipse, Freddie Gibbs, and Tyler.
Sugar on my tongue is still charting thohttps://youtu.be/ljHdccyQbT4
lmao normies have gotten black fatigue.
heh I'm listening to post-rock like always rn get fucked industry apologists
>>128273072Rap served its purpose. It has no use anymore.
>>128280722The top 40 started out as a gauge to how many singles (45 rpm vinyl) were being sold. It only makes sense that premium subscriptions are given more weight because they are a better gauge at what the buying public are spending money on.
>>128280297They need USAID money too.
>>128285328>The top 40 started out as a gauge to how many singles (45 rpm vinyl) were being soldThe Billboard chart began July 1940 and was originally several different charts comprising radio play, jukebox play, retail record sales etc and had only 30 positions. They were consolidated into the Hot 100 chart in August 1958.
>>128281293Do you know what a swan song is, young buck?
ITT: /mu/ celebrating that Taylor Swift has 12 songs currently in the Top 40 and Kpop Demon Huntersz has 6 songs in the Top 40
>>128287775Rap is evil and creates a culture of ugliness, which in turn makes humans animalistic.https://youtube.com/watch?v=v9guw6Mcwbk
>>128281701It’s only going to get worse when riots over EBT erupt next week.
>>128288740we get to see them crawl out of their holes and which ones were using ebt
>>128273072A win is a win. I like rap, but I haven't enjoyed new rap since the early 2010s. 90s and 00s is the best rap, especially 90s.
>>128288833Nothing will happen.
>>128279644Sadly, while changing the recurrent rules succeeded in finally getting rid of Lose Control and Beautiful Things (among many others), apparently it won't affect Christmas songs. So look forward to Mariah Carey still topping the charts for 4 weeks or so come December. I hope I'm wrong though.
>>128274606tiktok. you'll get a song going viral either through a small snippet, like that cupid song, or dance challenges. the actual songs don't really do that well outside of bts, even blackpink have never cracked the top 10 as a group. all the current hype around it is because kpop demon hunters was massive, the only kpop in the top 100 at the moment is from that, unless you want to be generous and count katseye as kpop because they were put together by a korean agency
>>128289977Kpop has to be the biggest astroturf in pop music history. They are all industry plants on steroids and don't even bother hiding it.
So what will it take for rap to gain cultural significance again?
>>128279535>six or seven
>>128292447More USAID money.More intellectual elites pimping hip hop as culturally revolutionary.Most likely, a new Democrat president in the US.
Okay, assuming hip hop really is "CIA" can someone please inform me as to WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE AGENDA???
>>128292927american soft power
>>128274606>How did K-pop become such an international sensation?K-pop is black music without the blacks, simple as. Black culture has produced some good musical trends but unfortunately that music has come with black culture attached. Even non-black Westerners will ape black culture when rapping.Koreans have taken those musical genres and completely disconnected them from black culture, which is a winning combination. No one actually wanted to listen to niggers, they just didn't realize that they had a choice. Now that k-pop has offered them that choice, they're taking it.
>>128292927To offset any attempt at a genuine working-class populist movement in the arts.Think about it. Both hip hop and punk gained enormous popularity out of nowhere at the start of neoliberalism. This was a time in America when unions were being gutted and manufacturing jobs were being outsourced overseas. Banks started becoming ultra-powerful. The working-class was starting to flounder. So, the CIA promoted hip hop and punk whereby the lumpen (criminal underclass) was privileged and emphasized over any kind of music or art that showcased the toils of the working-class.
>>128292994I'd argue K-pop is like Vegas: it's fake as hell, but the charm is in the fakeness.
>>128293025All pop is fake, K-pop is just honest about the fact that the girls are all performers put together by agencies singing songs someone else wrote for them. It's refreshing to be able to just appreciate the product for what it is without having to go through this whole routine of pretending that Taylor Swift is actually writing her own music.
>>128293033>It's refreshing to be able to just appreciate the product for what it is without having to go through this whole routine of pretending that Taylor Swift is actually writing her own music.That's exactly what I mean.
>>128292927Private prison system. Look it up. The same people who own the prisons also own the record companies.
>>128292927Rap is the biggest counterculture, it sells more than popslop and country.
>>128293459This is false. Country has consistently done better than rap.
Blame Drake.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdyeM9laAo
>>128293445The private prison system in the US has annual profits of $374 million. The people who would have the capacity to create mass social movements would be interested in making billions and billions, not pumping Corecivic's stock to a whopping $18 a share. The financial institutions that own the most private prison stock are the same institutions that own the most of literally everything. You're thinking way too small. You can start with the fact that materialism in rap & hip hop celebrated wealth and ran directly counter to the socialist message of the Black Power groups in the 1960s.
