Stenhammar Editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTHNl2hrG8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTHNl2hrG8&t=748https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTHNl2hrG8&t=1370https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTHNl2hrG8&t=1840This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>128261135
Malerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6p3NQ1_wvc
I like Stenhammar a lot.
>>128290062I stand with the Stanhammer edition. It's been three Mozart editions in a row.
>>128290396thank you, anon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJEUYG3r9Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJEUYG3r9Y&t=319https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJEUYG3r9Y&t=775https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJEUYG3r9Y&t=894
it really sucks to love Mozart and have to see him being forcefully connected to some anime child in the minds of every Anon here because of one guy
>>128289386https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvHF04mN64c
>>128290396>>128290629Mozart is fucking trash, listen to Vivaldi, Bach or Stravinsky
what happened to the BABIAA poster?
>Now that I’ve worked my way through Brahms, I’ve fallen back on Bruckner again. An odd pair of second-raters. The one was “in the casting ladle” [i.e. Peer Gynt] too long, the other not long enough. Now, I stick to Beethoven. There are only he and Richard [Wagner] - and, after them, nobody.
>>128290688I listen to Wagnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry9BMpjv0YQ
>>128290709Ask and you shall receive>when its time for the daily reminder
>Today I will remind themBABAB>DAILY REMINDER>DAILY REMINDERIAAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyWOIKCtjiw&list=RDKyWOIKCtjiw&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLugJIWdpCM&list=RDtLugJIWdpCM&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-utT-BD0obk&list=RD-utT-BD0obk&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxx7Stpx7bU&list=RDcxx7Stpx7bU&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCoOqsxLxSo&list=RDkCoOqsxLxSo&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgjwiadze1w&list=RDSgjwiadze1w&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ44z_ZqzXk&list=RDOQ44z_ZqzXk&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyBRbbHpno&list=RDpGyBRbbHpno&start_radio=1 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>>128290789https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy3TbREIFzk
>average BABIAA listenerWe will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin NocturneWe are the Mockers of MozartWe put a chokehold on classicismWe are the Cuckolders of ChopinWe are the Rapists of RomanticsWe are the murderers of MahlerWe strike fear in every pretentious and neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies
>Listening to Bach>not listening to Mozart>Listening to Marais>Not listening to Haydn>Listening to Ravel>not listening to Mahler>listening to Stravinsky>not listening to Schoenberg or ShostakovichIs there a better feeling in this world?
>Your Romanticism>My Foot>Your Classicism>My FistI will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin
>>128290782>*WagnerFTFY IYKYK
>Bach>Machaut>Ives>Marais>Buxtehude>Stravinsky>Reich>BartokNo Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No MahlerNo Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul
>>128290885
>>128290856>Is there a better feeling in this world?Scriabi's Diner
>>128290756>I have gone all through Brahms by now. All I can say of him is that he's a puny little dwarf with a rather narrow chest. Good Lord, if a breath from the lungs of Richard Wagner whistled about his ears he would scarcely be able to keep his feet. But I don't mean to hurt his feelings. You will be astonished when I tell you where I get more completely bogged down than anywhere else--in his so-called 'developments.' It is very seldom he can make anything whatever of his themes, beautiful as they often are. Only Beethoven and Wagner, after all, could that.
Mozart gives me the ick,As does Brahms, Mahler, early-middle Beethoven, Bruckner, Chopin, Schumann, Strauss II, Hindemith, Schoenberg, Reger, Berg, Tchaikovsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Haydn, Bruch, Salieri, Shostakovich, Clementi, and ProkofievThat is all
>>128290917Scriabi's deli : )
>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms>No Perotin or Medieval Music
>If it ain't BAROQUE, don't fix it>I dumped her because she BAROQUED my heart>I had to go to the doctor because I BAROQUED my leg in a gondola accident>I would go to the concerto with you, but I'm BAROQUE>The Baroque BAROQUED the renaissance mold
Remember not all Romantics are bad but all bad composers do tend be Romantic, except for Classical, all Classical composers are shitBelow is a list of acceptable Romantics:>Field>Chabrier>Franck>Tarrega>Wagner*>Any of the Russian 5>Grieg>Alkan>Late Beethoven
NO MOZARTNO CHOPINNO MAHLERALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIETHIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!SONATA FORM SHOULD DIEONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEATWHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITEBACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER
>>128290688I do, I just also listen to Mozart
>>128290885What does the asterisk stand for?
After the daily reminder we've hit the bump limit what will the next thread be?
>>128291064about your upcoming funeral hopefully.
Good evening all bachblins and ghoulds, tis the season to be spooky on this all hallows eveWhat is /classical/ celebrating with on Halloween to feel spooky?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6kEjwOpM2khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erXG9vnN-GI&list=RDerXG9vnN-GI&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wneUNq_Ndbw&list=RDwneUNq_Ndbw&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r827MCIXNyE&list=RDr827MCIXNyE&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nVmFlSV1ok&list=RD7nVmFlSV1ok&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n7qfRNzS3s&list=RD5n7qfRNzS3s&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8&list=RDiCEDfZgDPS8&start_radio=1
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>>128291115nothing scarier than listening to Ghould's playing I say
>>128291115https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlUttl1CEOw
>>128291115Liszt is supreme
>>128291115pretty much Liszt and Scriabin nonstop
I've been listening to more of Gould's recordings lately, and am I crazy or is his playing almost jazzlike? It's not very pianistic to me at all. No wonder boomers growing up in the heyday of jazz would find his playing so appealing.or am I hearing patterns and relations which don't exist?
>>128291558it's probably because Gould's staccato style of playing emphasizes the rhythmic elements of Bach's music. most other pianists have the habit of blurring everything together when playing polyphonic music and the vitality is lost as a result. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpxwQa9jmZw
Best Bruckner "tunes"?
>>128291930https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpMdr9nBJc0
For me, it's Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 28, Op. 101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c0nlCLiuzA
>>128291930my favorite is from the scherzo of sym 8 but the best is probably the adagio of sym 7.
George Chadwick - Symphony No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLTG9hfa2xo
"Richard Wagner (1813-1883) was a brilliant musician, he's also classical music's most problematic and controversial composer. His 1850 essay entitled Das Judenthum in der Musik (Judaism in Music) was deeply anti-Semitic, as were a variety of his other writings."
>submit a Wagnerian overture to a university so I can get a degree in composition.>the faculty think I'm a Nazi and decline my application.>mfw.
>>128292360sad. poor wagner, poor heidegger, poor riefenstahl
>>128292415rookie error. you should have written some postmodern minimalist crap instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1jfTy-c6Q
Beethoven and after, Wagner and before.
Get a job.
how to become a /classical/ RYMsister/postmodern hipster?
>>128292454peak neurotic senpai, do you have depressive episodes that last a week?
>>128291115Obviously can't forget German Romantic Opera, Freischutz, Vampyr, etc. Did Weber introduce spookiness into music? I think he might have. I don't think 18th century Gothicism ever leaked into music, Romanticism had to come along.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gl5uE47vU8
>>128292426poor ezra pound. poor arno breker.
>>128292653the history of Western European art from 500AD to today consists of a constant back and forth battle between Gothicism and Classicism.
>>128292695Obviously I was referring to the late 18th century literary movement and sensibility known as Gothicism, and not Gothicism as Northern European culture distinct from the Classical, you MORON.
I've listened to Bach's WTC so many times lately I swear it's starting to hurt my ears. But I can't stophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yemp8Da6VxU&list=OLAK5uy_mV2fKy2RwJhFxR0AoPf50U7lmDs6T78ug&index=16
>>128292855you need to go cold turkey.
>>128292886just one more hit and I promise!
>>128292909don't do it, anon. I had a relative who went mad and had to be put into a mental asylum because he couldn't stop listening to different recordings of the WTC. if you need further help, please contact the following link: https://bachoholics.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N7XY3Pk-Uw&
>>128292934I appreciate the link and effort, but fuck it, live fast, die younghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yziY7N5zvTM&list=OLAK5uy_mV2fKy2RwJhFxR0AoPf50U7lmDs6T78ug&index=26i hope you don't get hooked too
Give me your best Scarlatti on piano. No Pogorelich, please.
>>128292980Tharaudhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbJ12A7IM14&list=OLAK5uy_lb7z5XLmqQU70o0kyxIZ3ps7LrvVvtLHY&index=4Lucas Debarguehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnElZzQEpII&list=OLAK5uy_n-fngEzBRWufLHD7IYle_7QbXjcI_wHs4&index=1These ought to keep you satiated for a while.
debussy >> wagner
>>128293034your comment = shit
>>128293034based frenchie
>>128293034Maybe if Debussy had lived another decade, but as it stands he's a little bit of a disappointment given how much of a genius he was. Wagner found the perfect form for himself and kept improving on it, but Debussy went through that awful middle period and it's like he was constantly experimenting and never really created a magnum opus and there's just so much unevenness.
>The excessive polyphony of Wagner, the chiaroscuro effect of Debussy, the vulgar, impassioned writhing of Massenet are the only things that move or attract the attention of the general public. Yet the clear and consistent music of Saint-Saëns, to which I myself feel most attracted, leaves this same public indifferent. And all that sort of thing gives me a pain in the neck.— Faure
feels like a Chopin's Nocturnes nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kECtMxTNL7E&list=OLAK5uy_kNJmYRRrXuNqXhZ80V5QDwu_LZSSByJ7M&index=17
>>128290062>Stenhammar Edition>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTHNl2hrG8ffs this just seems naive like he's just faggying it up to entertain simpletons (early 1900s swedes were poorfag farmers). it's not a genius masterpiece.
>>128292454T H I SHIS
>>128293088Literal bait: the post
>>128293428please consider committing suicide.
>>128293034>>128293088Chopin, Schubert > Both
>>128293446you're willing to call just about any composer a genius. maybe it's you who's stupid so they look like geniuses compared to you.
>>128293477That goes without saying. I mean, is there even a composer that's better than those two? That's a rhetorical question btw. Of course there isn't.
>>128293505post a vocaroo and a score of something you have composed or fuck off.
>>128290629Maho is 21 years old tho.
>>128293477Chopin and Schubert are major pleb taste. Wagner and Debussy are much more esoteric.
>>128293802>The more people like a composer, the worse he is.
>>128292415post a vocaroo or it didn't happen.
>>128290688Contrarianism doesn't make one cool
>>128293802Well, apparently plebs have much better taste then!
>>128293867perhaps because today venerates selling the souls of children to the devil that you have decided to assume a little too much about anon. one, that he isn't already cool, and two, that he was attempting to be cool. though his post does persuade me if only a little but not all the way to action to put to defense that of someone i hold in high regard (heir mozart) these opinions could be held with genuinely and it is therefore my opinion that you crossed the line. spewing derogatives just because anon has claimed something of his own, no matter the value of the alleged claim, does not entitle you to dawn upon yourself a complex of superiority. allow me to clarify before some confusion sets in, a judgement passed is a judgement received, and a judge, though anon may be qualified, has nonetheless placed himself in a position over he who is being judged and the particpants who are there to witness. for example, a judge sits atop a throne of sorts, above everyone else; a judge declares things that others are forced to oblige; and, a judge has a wardrobe tinged with symbolic death, that of the state.
>>128293428he's got nice string quartets toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJEUYG3r9Y
>>128293928O_O
Grimaud's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSnv2EkqPr4&list=OLAK5uy_ksDv4vTSQ12ZmCmAZ3zdkWpCX69bCTWCM&index=11>Helene Grimaud presents her first-ever Bach recording! Once again, charismatic Helene Grimaud presents an album with an individual concept. Bach vs. Bach Transcribed brings together original keyboard works by the master with works by Bach arranged (transcribed) for the piano by pianist-composers of later generations: Busoni, Liszt & Rachmaninov. This is the first time that Hélène Grimaud has recorded Bach - a challenge for any musician. The repertoire includes the famous Well-Tempered Clavier II and the Concerto no. 1 in D minor, the latter performed with Grimaud's regular collaborators, the Kammerphilharmonie Bremen. Bach "Transcribed" features the Bach/Busoni version of the Chaconne in D minor, the Violin Partita in E major arranged for piano by Rachmaninov, and Liszt's version of the Prelude and Fugue in A minor. A landmark project in Grimaud's successful career, this recording is bound to be a best-seller.>"Hélène Grimaud clearly feels the music she performs very deeply . . . Grimaud lacks nothing in power, intensity or technical finesse . . . one encounters a sense of fantasy . . ." -- Classic FM, London, October 2007
Debussy - The Little Nigar
Wagner - Hehe, ihr Nicker!
Wagner in Liszt's daughter's Debussy
The musical architecture of the third and fourth movement of Beethoven's Hammerklavier are insane. Way too complex for me.
>>128291115https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA1jhDRZ9-o&list=OLAK5uy_liZTEctsmIkxzAONV4q9WQ1U4jFyVuufg&index=5
>tfw 22min hammerklavier adgiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqO5-KLGs0Y&list=OLAK5uy_mRLcaZ8NG02qttJ1mKkD7iC7zOXbsho08&index=90
>>128295049what the fuck
>>128295131>the chad 13 min adagiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjLgFwmCpFM&list=OLAK5uy_kUMl5RRvdNkphmZurRS0JxKepBhcV2PaM&index=11
Rossini's stabat mater is so absurdly operatic and light that it somehow sticks.
>>128295175he rises from the dead...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN9fTppXUhw&list=OLAK5uy_nJtwHvMqctb-fM1DyO09EF0SFvvTKlJ7c&index=12
>/classical/ celebrating normgroid holidaysUncool.
This is a recording which belongs in every /classical/ regular's library.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziKhVuI0xpY&list=OLAK5uy_lYcjatHBOJ9raY_ysy_miCCz9jWtweHlI&index=29>Daniil Trifonov returns with an album dedicated to J.S. Bach. He explores the scientific, emotional, and spiritual dimensions of Bach's cosmos, his faith, family, and world. Centered around Bach's mystical masterpiece, The Art of the Fugue, Trifonov's project investigates the man behind the myth - a genius of humility and humor, whose loves, losses, and devotion inspired what Trifonov calls "some of humanity's most emotionally rich and fascinatingly sophisticated expressions in music."
>>128295191Same thing with Verdi's Requiem.
>>128295688>trifonovPass.
gonna spend the weekend exploring the Boston Six>The Second New England School or New England Classicists (sometimes specifically the Boston Six) is a name given by music historians to a group of classical-music composers who lived during the late-19th and early-20th centuries in New England, United States. More specifically, they were based in and around Boston, Massachusetts, then an emerging musical center. The Second New England School is viewed by musicologists as pivotal in the development of an American classical idiom that stands apart from its European ancestors.>The specific "Boston Six" are named as John Knowles Paine (1839–1906), Arthur Foote (1853–1937), George Chadwick (1854–1931), Amy Beach (1867–1944), Edward MacDowell (1861–1908), and Horatio Parker (1863–1919).[4] Other composers associated with the group include Edgar Stillman Kelley (1857–1944), George Whiting (1861–1944), and Arthur Batelle Whiting (1861–1936). These composers were greatly influenced by German Romantic tradition, either through direct study with Germans or by association with German-trained musicians in America. Their works were published by Arthur P. Schmidt, the most important music publisher of that time.[5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu50DjAZiMc
>>128295708fine but then you'll never know the Art of Lifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6wtF0cBRM&list=OLAK5uy_lYcjatHBOJ9raY_ysy_miCCz9jWtweHlI&index=45
let's get Romantichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcyX6q_2po&list=OLAK5uy_nmbnT096AtROME8Rsx4-wPTjbq5hVHS14&index=1Undoubtedly one of the best ever recordings of Bruckner's 4th
>>128295824I fucking hate Tintner's Bruckner 8 but how are the other symphonies?
>>128295960His 3rd, 4th, and 6th are all excellent, even superb. I wouldn't recommend any of the others.
now playingstart of Chopin: 12 Études, Op. 25https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4NCRbtbTeU&list=OLAK5uy_nyyu5j2if59HQUYczBEszwgLSQ1XjN4rM&index=2start of Chopin: Four Scherzihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtZreCiYW74&list=OLAK5uy_nyyu5j2if59HQUYczBEszwgLSQ1XjN4rM&index=1https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyyu5j2if59HQUYczBEszwgLSQ1XjN4rM>"Chopin is reserved, visionary and mysterious," says Beatrice Rana. "There are many layers to his music. It's pleasing to the ear and sincere in it's communication, but the deeper you go, the more you find..." For this album, Rana pairs Chopin's 12 op 25 études with his four scherzi, focusing on two musical genres that the composer, combining intellect and imagination, transformed into something new. "It was Chopin who invented the 'concert study'," explains Rana. "To me, the études seem implicitly connected, joined by a single line of expression, as if they are taking you on a journey. The scherzi are evocative pieces, full of contrasts... They represent three distinct stages of Chopin's life and creativity and it is easy to read stories into them." >When Beatrice Rana played the op 25 études for her New York recital debut in 2019, the New York Times wrote: "If you can play Chopin's études comfortably, you can probably play anything written for the piano... and the best performances convey their musical riches. In that regard, Beatrice Rana set a new standard... She didn't just surmount the technical challenges; she made the pieces sound as poetic and colorful as anything Chopin ever wrote.
>>128295234See you on St Swithen’s Day Senpai
>>128295688Daniel Trifonov and The Plastic Ono Band
>>128295700That I honestly think is shit. But you're right, I should like it for the same reasons I like Rosinni's. It is just so overplayed in my country that I hate how highly it is regarded.
>>128296191I don't celebrate such nonsense.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pTkE1_pClUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JM1dw6BfPsI always find it odd when the final movement of a piece has a weaker ending than the previous movements.
Brahms.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRYe6EwWpPQ
>>128298432I like the final movement of that one.
>>128299453It's just that the ending kinda of fades away and you're left thinking "that was it? okay I guess it's over now."
>>128290756>>128290920what is mahler's opinion of mozart????????
>>128299789his last words were "Mozart! Mozart!" so take a guess
>>128299991This is like in bad crime stories where the victim's dying words implicate the culprit.
>>128299789Who gives a fuck.>>128299991>according to Almalmfao
>>128300014Mozart killed Mahler?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltMjIjUAi9I
>>128300627He is just like me for real.
>>128300087yes kid, according to the closest person to him
>>128299789>‘There are really not more than three perfect German opera composers: Mozart, whose sureness of aim in all that he did is unparalleled, Wagner - and you’ll be surprised at the third!’ ‘Weber?’ I asked. ‘No! The third, in my opinion, is Lortzing. His Zar and Wildschütz reveal him, in text, plot and music, to be the greatest operatic talent next to Mozart and Wagner.’
>>128301201said Lortzing
>>128301462Lortzing was long dead by then.
>>128301505from beyond the grave
More spooky core for all you brahmlins and schoenskellieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyknBTm_YyM&list=RDYyknBTm_YyM&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVYu5lyX5M&list=RD-iVYu5lyX5M&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9LWHEf0VFo&list=RD-9LWHEf0VFo&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIz3klPET3ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rxl5KsPjs&list=RDz7rxl5KsPjs&start_radio=1
>>128302027>babby's first classicalcute
>>128302037it fits the mood, don't be such a meanie
>>128291060IYKYK
>>128301201Very odd taste. How can someone consider Lortzing a superior talent to Weber?
>>128302037>It's popular therefore it's bad
>>128293847since it's Halloween you can have an excerpt:https://vocaroo.com/1hyaIlllZWk6
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaYxWhZqdTA&list=OLAK5uy_lJmdswQI9HZyU0TC94L43PqtCiLSUWSpM&index=11
>>128302668His taste was too basic otherwise so he probably felt he had to throw a quirky choice in there.
watching the NBA on mute while listening to classical :)
idc i like post-romantic slophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wccnGOo8UL8
That's it, time to bust out the headphones, I can't stand my neighbor's Vietnamese karaoke any longerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1zz17lIcE&list=OLAK5uy_lpgWC38LWZZWUi3t81BjEqoZl1AcSWzmM&index=4
>>128302971kek. based.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRh-RIU0S8&t=11
Inject that late romantic chromatic sludge into my veins.
>>128304977Come get the hard stuff at Scriabi's Diner
>>128304977I gotchu, senpai. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7-DW9Kt-cU
>>128301057>closest and the most untrustworthyFTFY
>>128305100NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOooooOoOooOooSCRIABIN IS NOT CHROMATIC SLUDGE!!!! NOT. NOT. N-NOT CHROMATIC S-S-SLuuUdGEeeee!! THAT'S WHAT THE JEW HURWITZ SAYS I SWEAR!!!! SCRIABIN USES SYNTHETIC SCALES AND MYSTERIOUS MULTI-UNIVERSAL TONALITIES ONLY I CAN C-COMPREHEND!!! NOOOOooOoooOoOoo-
>>128305789who said chromatic sludge was a bad thing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QXnJMTLWkg&t=460
>>128302668it's already odd taste if you think mahler is a top tier genius
>>128305913Yeah, Mahler is god tier genius bar none
>>128305829A sad, sad Scriabincel couple days ago.
>>128305913Mahler completed the symphonic form, of course he's a genius.
>>128306235>completed the symphonic formAlready achieved by Brahms. >>128299305
>>128306236>BrahmsMediocre orchestrator.
now playingstart of Mozart: Piano Sonata No. 8 in A Minor, K. 310https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXY_DiWRRx8&list=OLAK5uy_k5h62bJQALghvO_52ZJPAhX7tG6Cta6qg&index=23start of Mozart: Piano Sonata No. 9 in D Major, K. 311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajTK2yjEamE&list=OLAK5uy_k5h62bJQALghvO_52ZJPAhX7tG6Cta6qg&index=26start of Mozart: Piano Sonata No. 10 in C Major, K. V330https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S1RCjUpJrg&list=OLAK5uy_k5h62bJQALghvO_52ZJPAhX7tG6Cta6qg&index=29start of Mozart: Piano Sonata No. 11 in A Major, K. 331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSHUK7kOKI&list=OLAK5uy_k5h62bJQALghvO_52ZJPAhX7tG6Cta6qg&index=31https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5h62bJQALghvO_52ZJPAhX7tG6Cta6qgSurely one of the most essential cycles for Mozart's piano sonatas.
>Mahler declares that Brahms shunned so many useful techniques and innovations in orchestration merely out of obstinacy and opposition to Wagner. In his chamber music, such devices are by no means absent, on the contrary, he shows himself a master in their use.>Later, Mahler added: ‘Brahms is not concerned with breaking all bonds and rising above the grief and life of this earth to soar up into the heights of other, freer and more radiant spheres. However profoundly, however intimately and idiosyncratically he handles his material, he remains imprisoned in this world and this life, and never attains the view from the summit. Therefore, his works can never, and will never, exercise the highest, ultimate influence.’
>>128306310Just classic foibles of a young upcomer with forward-thinking ideas reacting against the established elder with conservative artistic ideas.
>>128306319Nah, he's right. Established elder in question is Beethoven, not Brahms. Brahms should've embraced Schubertian, Chopinian and Lisztian ideals before Wagner did, and he would've had the chance to climb higher than them. But he didn't.
>>128290062What happened to the better classical thread that had better composers?
>>128306310The Brahms fog filtered him. many such cases.
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now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NWfc21yuUE
For today's performance of Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier, we listen to Edward Aldwell's recording of Book 1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwdsmjEmyq0&list=OLAK5uy_kYANdgE0uovXwvr8F9_K8EHo4LXO1mCx4&index=34
>>128306723get help.
>>128306732just a few more hits and it'll be out of my system, count on it
>>128306747that's what they all say. I hate to tell you anon but you'll end up in a padded cell if you keep going down this path.
now playingstart of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 20 in G Major, Op. 49 No. 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA3kbE3WpFw&list=OLAK5uy_mjl_6sr5wHicSLQphYBf2J0xp1u5jheb0&index=70start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 21 In C, Op. 53 -"Waldstein"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJOOE4sxj0&list=OLAK5uy_mjl_6sr5wHicSLQphYBf2J0xp1u5jheb0&index=72start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 22 In F Major, Op. 54https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe2ROkSfrfU&list=OLAK5uy_mjl_6sr5wHicSLQphYBf2J0xp1u5jheb0&index=75start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 23 in F Minor, Op. 57 "Appassionata"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR1RVBm6Pjo&list=OLAK5uy_mjl_6sr5wHicSLQphYBf2J0xp1u5jheb0&index=77https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mjl_6sr5wHicSLQphYBf2J0xp1u5jheb0
>>128306310I'd say there's enough craftsmanship to Brahms' work that they are very worthwhile pieces of art. I do agree with Mahler on the metaphysical aspects of his work, but that's mostly a reflection of his personality and belief outside of music.Still, craftsmanship I find a worthwhile metric in it's own right, it's not like we always judge a fugue by it's emotional characteristics. I still love Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHWRDYq9Zy0
today's goals: try to finally understand the mystifying, deconstructive book 3 of Liszt's Annees de pelerinagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86i0U7H0x4
I even saw the lights on the Goodyear blimpAnd it read Beethoven's a pimphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NShQLVBn3kA&list=OLAK5uy_mUHEoa-F3R1-TaG7EWiDhC587_kmVgnro&index=40
So Rudolf Buchbinder has three complete cycles of Beethoven's piano sonatas, one for RCA/Sony (2011), one for EMI/Warner (1973-81), and one for DG/Unitel (recorded in 2014, released in 2021). Pretty interesting to hit all of the big labels like that. Has anyone tried all three? His newest one, the one on DG that gets posted here, is quite solid, great even. It'll be fun to see his growth as a pianist and interpreter of Beethoven.let's use the second movement of, say, the 27th for comparisonEMI/Warnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSfibJmxdmk&list=OLAK5uy_kQN3TtOeQMR6n_7y2K9hkc_0rP3_t74Uo&index=85DG (so this release has his complete DG Beethoven recordings -- in order, the variations, piano sonatas, lastly piano concertos -- what's both funny and stupid however is they stuck the 14th Piano Sonata, Moonlight, at the very beginning of the set kek, so on the CD with the sonatas, it just skips from 13 to 15, ridiculous)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWBaVY1ZGyQ&list=OLAK5uy_kXQJwv9CSPxwHYmS5yZ4xllWRauCen53A&index=112RCA/Sonyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOkMS3lPgCA&list=OLAK5uy_norzNDXYGVytIuQkqE6iItJWy5_0mauqE&index=86
>>128306899BALD
