Who is his modern day counterpart?Is there still groundbreaking new electronic music?
No one will ever be impressed with new things because in everyone’s mind, everything has been done.
>>128297913
come to dendy come to dendy
>>128297931What was the last truly new thing in music?
aphex twin was never groundbreaking
>>128298578Came to post this
>i hide pics of my face in the spectra of my music ;))What a gigsntic redditor
>>128299291Amen, Brother
>>128299326>redditormore like usenetizen
And what particularly "groundbreaking" was about Aphex Twin? The fact that he used some jungle beats with sampled orchestral instruments on RDJ Album an then someone called it IDM? wow. You forget a little fact there wasn't many artists like Aphex back then, meaning scene was almost deserted, and he was amongst few lucky ones to plant their flag there. He's your "groundbreaking" artist for normies. The true pioneers stay forgotten, as usual. I don't recall any threads about Throbbing Gristle or Einsurzende Neubauten. And there was many more who were really bring some innovation. But they do not exist for normies because there's no sweet melodies and silly mugshots you can turn into a meme. Only thing innovative happened in electronic music is people managed their way to use synthesizers and mix it with their freaky live performance back in late 70s. You want your innovation to be pretty marketed for you in this day and age when people are so spoiled and degenerative they willfully forgot they have all the power at their fingertips and pay $2000 for a thing that looks and sounds like $20 plastic toy only to shot a shitty tiktok video. Fuck all of you and burn in hell.
>>128298907gay country traphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qovpFAGrQ
>>128299436>Throbbing Gristle>Einstürzende NeubautenTheir pretentious ‘music’ was hardly electronic, and they have rightly been forgotten.
>>128299541Theyre really forgotten innit
>>128297913>groundbreakingafx never was groundbreaking, he didn't innovate in regards to techno, ambient techno, jungle, acid or electro
>>128297913>groundbreaking new electronic music?from africa, detroit
>>128298907Nothing since grungeBut these days you can sound new by mixing genres. Like Sleep token or Bloodywood
>>128299436If you want to be known you have to market yourself. You can't simply post music to the void and expect to get a million fans. Get to work, son.
aphex twin not groundbreaking. shit taste too he just DJs kavari songs now who is a shitty edgelord producer with no idea what shes doingIMO evian christ has been doing some cool stuff recently with trance and hardcore. also sstepteam are making some cool hip hop. lots of “underground” rap has some creative beats but they are sometimes very sloppy and the rappers dont add muchdesu if you want highly stimulating music just listen to onkyo or field recordings or something cause dance music will always be dance music i.e. repetitive and simple. it doesn’t need to be pseuded up>>128298578>>128299312ur joking right?
>>128301724Grunge in itself was basically mixing genres.
>>128302224prove me wrong
Early ArcaSOPHIE
Probably the biggest breath of fresh air I've had this year was emma essex's new album called kidnamefinger for whatever reason. It's not like it's tredding new ground, cough neither did richard cough, but it's a fun exploration into sound that I keep coming back to. its november so honestly may be my personal AOTYdeath to lolislop with the same preset trance synth, kidnamedfinger is for cool kid IDM breaks fans
>>128298578i agree, it's clearly dnb but there's so much effort that goes into the sonic landscape that it just envelops you unlike most dnb where it's more like decorating the d and the b. sometimes it's a bit femreddit but at its best i genuinely feel like i'm merging with the music.
>>128303466nothing innovative about those guys
>>128297913How about the fact that he and Autechre are still alive and making new shit? Not good enough for you?
>>128304048Who did they copy?
Zach Hill and Lucas Abela just dropped bag of max bag of cass today, it's on warp records and if you're familiar with either of these artists check it out!
>>128299436anon you’re fighting an impossible battle when zoomers are watching 5M view videos about how richard INVENTED HIS OWN INSTRUMENTS and like vibert? who is that? i’d love to know who the first grifter was who started selling him hard to zoomers
Definitely some stuff in the Epic Collage sphere. Look into that shit, RYM (yeah, fuck you faggot) is a place to start. Weed420 is my personal pick but Elysia Crampton/DJ E/E+E, Giant Claw, Ran Cap Duoi, that new album Darkskin niggas with lightskin problems, that shit is interesting and good. And there’s lots of other scenes that are worth following too. Don’t give up on challenging yourself, listening to lots of music new and old, keeping an open mind, and appreciating new ideas. You don’t want to become one of those guys stuck in a general unable to enjoy new music>>128303466>>128302224Respect for Evian Christ and Arca
electronic music peaked in the late 80s and early 90s, that wubstep shit in the 2010s was corporate slop that re directed electronic music from being a cool counter culture which was vaguely gay into being dude bro shit for guys who would have been listening to korn or some shit if they were born a decade earlier.But yeah electronic music like all music seems pretty dead in the 2020sat least in the 2010s we had underground shit like vaporwave and future funk and shit like that
>>128305142dubstep was bad but at least it's mostly gone now, vaporwave was truly cancerous for giving birth to copypasting A E S T H E T I C retards
>>128297913You need not look further than the rest of demoscene.
Notice how no one mentions who aphex supposedly ripped off of. Curious, innit?
>>128297913Autechre never stopped raising the bar. Admittedly Sign and Plus were not great but their new live sets blow most of their previous work out of the water.
>>128297913He was never groundbreaking
>>128298907Probably like Curtis Roads or something
>>128307062Luke Vibert
>>128307357>Sign and Plus were not greatWrong.
>>128307497I've listened to exactly one (1) Luke Vibert album and it's such an insane earworm it feels like a cognitohazard.The music is pretty good but something about those flute samples make them stay in my head for days and days.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uc1dQpnrzo
>>128307497>>128307551Luke got ruined for me when someone on here mentioned his over-reliance on samples.
SOPHIE, Arca (haven't listened since Mutant tho desu), OPN. These are all kinda old thoughMun Sing rules
jon hopkins
>>128307497No
>>128307497>Luke Vibert>first album 93>Aphex Twin>SAW in 92 (which was a comp album of even older tracks)You guys are retarded faggots.
>>128298578Baseeed
>>128297913>Who is his modern day counterpart?>Is there still groundbreaking new electronic music?I hope you don't think he is groundbreaking>>128307497industrial musicfirst album is neutered skinny puppy/front line assemblysecond album and beyond iare just neutered cEvin Key's projectsaphex is basically overcompensating drum loops music in comparison
>>128297913By no means new to the craft but the unsung hero of all electronic music is master audio manipulator Martin Damm. Past, present and future.
>>128299291Apex twin inspired Kid A and some call that album a seminal moment in music
>>128309290>>128311444Ahem...
>>128311444didn't that turn out to be a bit of a hoax? like 85-92 was just made up? most of the tracks are from 92 or so. i think?
>>128312912>Apex twin inspired Kid Abrehkid a is closer to depeche mode than to aphex twin
>>128313007The beat from the song of the same name came from an apex twin song that set Yorke down the path of a post rock album. There is also nothing industrial in Kid A its all ambient backdrop over rhythmic beats
>>128313007Thom admitted that he was inspired by Aphex Twin/IDM for Kid A. Depeche Mode was never mentioned.
>>128312960Again, no
>>128313007You do have no clue what you’re talking about
>>128313487You're in denial
>>128313574No...
>>128313074>>128313200>>128313546exhibit ahttps://youtu.be/IMsZ9IHJeF4the electronic feel of the album is thisexhibit bhttps://youtu.be/svwJTnZOacohttps://youtu.be/uUS9fBhZmDgsame emphasis on droning and drum loops, even the lyrics have the same themestripped, from the same album, is the industrial sounding one. that's what you are thinking ofhttps://youtu.be/CbjDNk-2yv0>inb4 well the album is not just electron—exhibit chttps://youtu.be/NfQD1QiQ9o4https://youtu.be/fKrPaEKreCohell even useless uses horn shit from time to time https://youtu.be/gnGqHLdHcsc>>128313074>There is also nothing industrial in Kid A its all ambient backdrop over rhythmic beatsare you implying industrial cannot be ambient?nigga, please. listen to more musichttps://youtu.be/J5FE7eLxrk0https://youtu.be/1L_vp0R5QTAyou layer some crazy drums, vocals and lyrics and you get thishttps://youtu.be/Uj7Ky_bUGmg
garden of delete was the most recent innovative electronic album
>>128299541Hate trannies. Hate Ebenezer New Hampshire.
>>128313751Post whatever you want but its doesn't take away what Yorke has said in the past
>>128314006>but statements!!you love statements so much, uh? let me give you another statement: you are a faggothave a nice day
Kid A a and OK Computer biggest contribution is probably Johnny Greenwood above anyone
Why do people get their jimmies rustled when anyone brings up popular electronics musicians? I don't see that happening in any other genre discussion here. Yet, they almost never share the Actual Good Stuff. So what do they want? What's their goal? Who are they?
>>128314158grumpy federal agents regarding a cyclical canon of electronic artists to persist through the 21st century depending on outsourced ideas of technical progression. leading the government to make countless remarks rebuking installments without enough flavor. aphex twin leads this movemen
>>128314158Bonkers 1-17 is all you need
>>128303445IS THAT AN AMEN BREAK OVER AN ANIME SAMPLE AND A TRANCE PAD??!!!! AAAAAA IM GOING INSANE
>>128314173what
>>128314453many are saying this
>>128317560jungle and dnb are 90s genres, they peaked in the 90s and there have been no interesting developments since except for maybe gladde palling and his adhd tiktok fodder which is fun but ultimately empty
>>128299436What happened was just Elektron boxes >>128313007>Depeche Mode inspiring anything LMAO that's a good one
>>128320837>>Depeche Mode inspiring anythingAutechre? Ricardo Villalobos?
>>128320837You're trying too hardJust take the L
>>128320896Wack>>128321445>Lwhat L?
>>128297913Skee Mask
>>128321666nice try, Satan. the astroturfing failed, there's no hype.
>>128321686Not music
>>128302224You sound retarded
>>128321878not an argument.
Love how every time a thread like this is made all the tryhard autist contrarians come out of the woodwork to say AKTCHUALLY APHEX TWIN SUCKS AND IS TOTALLY NOT ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL ARTISTS OF ALL TIME WAAHHH
>>128321901I don't want to argue about hype or marketing, I only want to discuss actual music. Skee Mask makes ambient techno that sounds like SAW 1, sure it's not groundbreaking but it's solid music.I mean, it's a RDJ thread, I just wanted to namedrop the guy.Ok?
>>128321944Buy an ad
supposedly gesaffelstein is groundbreaking but i don't see it. my tentative answer is no
>>128297913Try Gabor Lazar:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9PdXqutvOU
Amon Tobin was always the superior choice
>>128297913oneohtrix point never>invents vaporwave in 2010>goes on to create two more masterpieces>*leaves*
Moby was unironically more groundbreaking than Aphex Twin.
>>128303466>modern dayNo disrespect to them but they were both doing their thing over a decade ago
>>128299291I would say this but no one else was doing that kind of electronic inspired ambient.
>>128322595The Orb would like you to check out their entire discography
>solves Ambient
>>128323196>only one track is ambient
>>128297913Oneohtrix Point Never maybe, who was awesome live and so was the supporting memeber he played with on the Myriad tour He literally lost weight shortly after lol
>>128297913>Is there still groundbreaking new electronic music?>implying there ever was "groundbreaking" electronic music
>>128297913Tipper is pretty up there. Has had a cult-like following throughout the 2000s and has been massively influential in the bass scene.
>>128321897i get that a lot hahaha
>>128297913Aphex Twin is for nerds who listen to music in their quiet room. You guys are not really into electronic music.
>>128326274>he doesnt listen to edm on his owndo you even like the music if you only enjoy it when its loud or youre on drugs lolol
>>128297913>>128298907SOPHIE but people don't want to hear it because of poptimism fatigue + the trans thing
>>128303466?
>>128325619>>128321897
>>128297913>>128327169Did they...?
We need to give estrogen to more rich schizophrenic twinks
>>128297913It's not the same, you're only wasting time, retard.>>128297913
>>128298578machine girl mogs this slvt
>>128327938Listen to more music
>>128327345Link up? Obv
>>128313809Tranny Trash
>>128325677Utterly redundant as Shpongle exists and made actual records.
>>128297913>(FKRTM, he's a techno and hardcore artist from Belgium his stuff is some of my favorites. https://youtu.be/JbSDfgbHna8
>>128311444retard dumb zoomer do you not know about the connection between Richard and Luke https://archive.org/details/AphexTwinLukeVibert19970922USAWashingtonSeattle
funny how blatantly zoomers have been BTFO ITT
>>128298907with mainstream success? gecs i guess
>>128331756I just see terminal contrarians yelling at clouds
>>128297913>new>groundbreakingChoose one.
>>128302224>desu if you want highly stimulating music just listen to field recordingskek
>>128328461having wook friends, I can confirm that Tipper has a status among them that Shpongle does not
>>128334000Filtered. Field recordings have insane dynamics and ZERO repetition
>>128334022Yeah, what a flex. I'm going to go to representatives of "the culture" and datamine their opinion for use in an argument about aesthetics. Pathetic. If you self identify as a wook, you're a fucking retard and your opinion is worthless.
>>128322246Based.
>>128314158I think it is literal autism. Mentioning popular artist they don't like is a personal affront and induces an emotional response
>>128298578unironically based
>>128297913>electronic>groundbreakingLiterally an young 20's take."DUDE BUT BLIPS AND BLOOPS AND COOL SOUND DESIGN.Electronic is just like Jazz where all I want to tell mfers - Hey bro have you thought about... JUST MAKING SONGS?Everyone is keeps going on about A.I slop and how it sucks and thats because its literally the same as making electronic music. NO SOUL.
>>128297913>Is there still groundbreaking new electronic music?Sevishhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HxwZVcjUzYA pity he stopped making albums and only releases single tracks now.
>>128335461unironically listen to more music
>>128313580Not an argument.
>>128335552Let me guess, your only exposure is some experimental shit that only a few people are into anyways. How can you ignore the whole breadth of dance genres? Are they just noise to you?
>>128298907Burial
>>128335552>frogshitter
>>128337542>dubstep garage>new
>>128297913James Ferraro is the only one i think comes close in terms of experimentation and prolificity
>>128297913SHXCXCHCXSH, Lorn. >>128298578Baby weeb's first dnb. Low effort wank made by a head case.
>>128299436>You forget a little fact there wasn't many artists like Aphex back then, meaning scene was almost deserted, and he was amongst few lucky ones to plant their flag there. He's your "groundbreaking" artist for normies. The true pioneers stay forgotten, as usualthisthe skinny puppy guys developed the soundhttps://youtu.be/r-ssM6qUzdIhttps://youtu.be/0OtxApcfnqEhttps://youtu.be/-q_swIwxs5Qhttps://youtu.be/JTQ0VbcrWqw(Outafter was mean to appear in The Crow soundtrack as a Skinny Puppy's track. Lee was even a fan of the group)But let's be real. Wendy Carlos invented IDMhttps://youtu.be/oy0OYQepYAY
>>128298578Very good and probably true spiritually.Squarepusher is a bit younger than Mr. Twin, and probably the most similar.
>>128334171And also zero rhythm, groove and harmonic/melodic progression
>>128322595>Repetitive techno style noodling with MLP tier fedora neckbeard melodies but without the beat>Elecronic inspired ambientElectronic inspired ambient has been a thing since the late 60s.Tangerine Dream.Robert Rich.Steve Roach. Psychedelic Rock at times. Industrial music at times. Probably many others.What Aphex Twin did was take away the rhythmic structure and that's all. And now you have an army of plantproteinbased Redditors going WOW SO FUCKING INSANE.His early IDM work sounds childish compared to Autechre. His drum and bass sounds childish compared to Squarepusher and Venetian Snares. Even Shpongle has better drum and bass manipulations than Aphex Twin on the first album.His popularity is due to the combo of current electronic sound with Disney tier melodies that are palatable to Redditor normies. (First, techno, then ambient, and when drum and bass hit UK, it was drum and bass time). The new stuff, starting with Syro, sounds incredibly dated compared to the musical landscape it was released in.
>>128307786He's a tracker guy, he uses a tracker. It's all 100% samples with trackers.I think he uses other shit too but I distinctly remember him talking about trackers in some interview.
>>128342225there are plenty of rhythms and harmonies in field recordings and they are far more interesting than the ones in most idm slop. just close your eyes and LISTENhttps://franciscolopez.bandcamp.com/album/himavanta-environmental-sound-matter-from-thailand-s-rainforests
