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Is current day music actually music? Shouldn't only classical and jazz be considered music? Those two have far more in common with the idea of music than rock, pop, rap, electronic, etc.
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Shut up, faggot
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>>128325722
define “music”
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>>128325722
nice stealth Sabrina thread
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>>128328150
Cute
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>the idea of music
define this
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PLEASE ANON WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF MUSIC BRO PLEASE TELL ME BRO
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Yes
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>>128328150
My God imagine throwing this fun-sized fuckdoll around in bed.
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what the fuck is music
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>>128325722
popular music is the natural format. simple songs featuring a guitar/lute are very old
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>>128331164
Wrong, that's not popular music; they're either folk music with unknown authors or just classical with guitar/lute and vocals. Popular music is literally a 20th century invention.
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>>128331212
rock and modern popular music is just a reinvention of that. classical and jazz are deeply unnatural.
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>>128325722
Jazz is an afterthought of classical music.
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>>128331262
>rock and modern popular music is just a reinvention of that
>classical and jazz are deeply unnatural
Vague nonsense and circular logic.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_music
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>>128325722
rock, pop, rap, and electronic are music
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>>128331366
Pop is just modern folk. 2000 years ago nothing even remotely sounded like Jazz or classical, while guy with his lute (guitar) is still integral to pop and rock.
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>>128325722
>another "modern music isn't real music" thread

Just shut up retard.
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>>128331473
>guy with his lute
Like John Dowland, the English Renaissance classical composer? Yeah. Anyway, I recommend learning how to read so you can read the text in the image and on Wikipedia that I sent you here >>128331366 as well as learning how logic works because you're just repeating what you've already said without explaining why and using circular logic.
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>>128331535
make your point retard
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>>128331535
>>128331366
That’s a great question — and the answer depends a bit on what you mean by “ancient music,” but in general, ancient music is closer to popular (folk/traditional) music than to classical music in most respects.

Here’s why:

1. Function and Context

Ancient music was primarily functional — used for ritual, storytelling, dance, work, or social events.

Popular/folk music serves similar communal and practical purposes.

Classical music, especially post-18th century, developed as an art form for listening, often meant for concert halls and elite audiences. That’s a much later, more formalized tradition.

2. Structure and Complexity

Ancient music tended to have simple structures, repetition, and strong rhythmic patterns—like folk and popular music.

Classical music usually emphasizes harmony, development, and written composition, which are features that arose much later in Western history.

3. Transmission

Ancient and folk/popular music were transmitted orally, not written down.

Classical music relies on notation and written scores, allowing complex compositions and orchestration.

4. Improvisation and Flexibility

Ancient musicians likely improvised within traditional patterns.

The same is true for folk musicians.

Classical musicians, in contrast, mostly perform fixed compositions (with the exception of cadenzas and early Baroque practice).

In short:

Ancient music = communal, oral, functional more like popular/folk music.
Classical music = written, formal, aesthetic much later development.
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>>128331741
I've made my point, you illiterate fuck. Read the image here >>128331366
Pop is globalized music that has authorship, is recorded and released on vinyl/CDs/streaming platforms to masses or specific subcultures and can only exist in an industrialized society where it acts like a commodity. Folk music doesn't have authorship and is shared orally between members of local cultures, but is mostly dead now exactly because of globalization and industrialization. They have completely different methods of composition, function, distribution, way of preserving and sharing between people, role in society, etc. This is really basic, standardized stuff about music. What part of it isn't getting to you?
>>128331899
Shut the fuck up, ChatGPTard. Nobody said anything about "ancient music", which is an entirely different category and discussion. Are you seriously so fucking stupid that you think outsourcing your thinking to an algorithm designed to mirror whatever it's told will make your opinion worthwhile? Can you even think for yourself or are you only able to parrot nonsense clichés like "pop is just modern folk" and use AI to do the "thinking" for you? Stop posting, you embarrassing retard.
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>>128331899
>>128333118
Oh and the phrase you're looking for is "vernacular music", i.e. music that's "ordinary" or "everyday", and that's literally the only thing that pop and folk have in common, and even that's not 100% accurate. The differences between them are so vast in every imaginable way that it makes no sense to group them together or think one is the evolution of the other. If you aren't a musically and historically illiterate fuck parroting empty platitudes, that is.
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OP here I am back but this guy has said what I was going to say basically.
Pop music which includes all formats of music now in my opinion, the album format, the single format, anything spread now not part of a larger composition or folk is pop music.

This is NOT real music, historically this is nothing but a product of technology that has devalued and replaced real music in the mind of humanity.
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>>128333118
pop is just folk which is just normal human music. classical and jazz are not music.
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>>128333743
You're not very bright, are you? You've said the same retarded thing for the third time now and conveniently ignore everything I say. I completely dismantled your pseud argument. I don't think this whole music thing is for you, little buddy. Stop posting.



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