>>128344310
>Is it even possible to enjoy jazz?

Explain how television works. Point proved.

>is it possible to enjoy food without being a chef yourself?
retarded thread

>>128344361
I lost the plot after learning about iconoscope
>>128344367
The answer is yes but you'd miss 3/4 of the nuance

>>128344414
The same could be said for anything, if you live your life enjoying things with such stringent guidelines then there wouldn’t be any purpose in enjoying anything

>>128344497
What you're suggesting is just the opposite side of enjoying things as a tourist. What if you could acquire some know-how and gain more understanding of the thing you like and if it has more to offer beyond your instinctive impressions?

What if you found out how it works and then it turned it into a misery. Then what?!

>>128344310
Lou Armstrong is easy.
With Charlie Parker, even musicians had to slow down records to hear all the notes, and they were stunned to hear that not a single note was random.

>>128344367
Learning how to cook is a valuable skill

>>128344581
And all sounded exactly the same no matter what song he was playing.

>>128344310
enjoy? yes.
correctly appraise how complex, original, difficult, and well executed something is? not a chance. easy stuff will sound impressive, and complex stuff will not be perceived altogether.
normally you wouldn't need all that just to enjoy music, but a lot of people have impure intentions, they write up opinions on those things that they don't understand one bit, when vibe is literally all they have to go on, and all just so they can be the guy that listens to scholar music. this might even be one such thread.

Play theme
Doo di do do di do di do do

Play it again
Doo di do do di do di do do

Play sonic barrier of notes for four to six minutes

Fin

>>128344310
Only whites make good jazz

>>128344665
That could be said about any genre you're not familiar with.

>>128344581
see this sounds like exactly the kind of facebook-level rhetoric bullshit story because not a single musician anywhere near Charlie Parker's caliber plays "random" notes, before or after. you think they'd get on that shit as fast as they did if they couldn't even tell that by ear?

>>128344715
>story to make something a bigger deal than it is
i a whole sentence

>>128344310
Not really. I look at like this, anyone can walk into a building but only an architect can appreciate what went into designing it. Jazz is no different, you have architects and occupants. The casual jazz listener is merely a tourist enjoying the superficial sights.

>>128344310
Yes, you zoomer brain rotted imbecile

when its good, yes