Let’s discuss the leakhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1F1zi9MhplaieT_dOK0Tx0_3pgNvEeZpp
>>128353057Sounds great
>>128353185I think sounds good too, was expecting much worseIt’s nothing groundbreaking but still quite nice
>>128353057can anyone confirm that's real? not on soulseek yet
>>128353214Yes, it is
>>128353057Jesus fucking christ>>128353214It's real and it sounds fucking incredible
don't care, post her skimpy swimsuit pictures
This is some Kanye shit holy shit
haven't heard anything by her before but based on one minute of the first track i think this sounds like evanescence, or rather like that woman from The Rehearsal singing evanescence. pretty good
>>1283530573 songs in, it's absurdly good. If she keeps it up (hard thing to do considering it's 18 tracks) then it easily mogs every major release this year.
>>128353263she's singing in Japanese yeah she's female Ye
I've listened up to Berghain. First leg of the album is flawless. Please god don't let this shit the bed.
Rumba del Perdon gets impressive
how does it sound so good
normies are going to be insufferable with this album, they've already been circle jerking about berghain the last couple weeks because they've never heard artsy music before
>>128353406who cares nigger the album is great, let normies enjoy good pop music for a change
>>128353406They’re already being annoyingI no longer have any respect for Rosalia because after putting out a cool folk debut with experimental tendencies, she decided to release pop reggaeton trash for 5 yrs or something just for the money and fame. Now she suddenly wants to pretend to be the next Bjork, but Bjork at her most commercial never went that low. I do think this new album is good overall but it’s too late now for me to admire her as an artist. She’ll do what’s most convenient, and right now, it’s releasing orchestral art pop for artistic cred . She also obviously has her stans backing her up and pretending any slight experiment she does is incredibly brave. Since this will not have any hit songs she’ll probably go to whatever is popular for her next project
>>128353057Just finished it. Easily the best pop record of the year. Immaculate production, beautiful vocals, ambitious without feeling pretentious. Novia Robot the only real miss, so it's probably gonna be the album's biggest hit.Good luck to the anons that are gonna try to pretend it's mid, you're gonna need it.
>>128353057This is pretty good, but as someone who grew up listening to spanish ballads and folk often, it's not really that groundbreaking to me, just makes me feel nostalgic more than anything. I do hope that it makes a big splash to get more andalusian style music in general since it's probably my favorite type of spanish music.
>>128353057Her worst album yet, along with her debut. La Rumba Del Perdón is the only good track, mainly because of the guests.
The production and mixing is honestly impressive but she's trying really hard, it's a byproduct of unlimited resources instead of an actual creative direction.
>>128353671You haven't listened to much spanish music if not any andalusian. This album is just flamenco with strings, something Manolo Sanlúcar was already doing in the late 80s. It's also insanely redundant and dated, maybe she just listened to Granada by Sílvia Pérez Cruz and said "she made a great album speaking 5 different languages, so if I make one speaking like 10 it'll be a masterpiece!"
Aren't we gonna talk about how Novia Robot is clearly a Janelle Monáe's knock off? Sure she sings in japanese or chinese or whatever, but it's still obvious.
>>128354064Flamenco is andalusian. And she's just inspired by flamenco, which is outdated, and trying to put a modern spin on it which works out pretty well.
>>128354064Flamenco is a total secondary element here
>>128354099Flamenco isn't entirely andalusian and you just demonstrated how you have no idea of what you're talking about, an actual andalusian (andaluz) tells you. It's not outdated either since we've had a lot of worth listening flamenco influenced projects in the past years. If this album sounds that way to you and most people, it isn't due to some kind of genre limitation, is mainly because Rosalía has the same knowledge about her national music as her audience, zero.>>128354114Rosalía has been labelling her music as flamenco since her very first album, you can't hide the sun with your finger.
>>128354064you're supposed to listen to the album first
Art is supposed to elevate. This elevates nothing. It's just a bunch of highly expensive gimmicks accompanied by the most bland, hedonistic and materialistic lyrics. Style over substance.
she wants to be bjork so bad
Musical equivalent of oscarbait. Impressive if you only listen shit like Taylor Swift and Drake, i guess
She'll never make it, reviews are already mixed before it's even officially released. Chart update coming through.
Incredibly well made, expensive music.The stuff of FIFA anthems and luxury perfume ads.Commits the worsts sins of fusion music by sounding exactly how you'd expect it to.6/10
the album is ok but no VespertineI can hear she tried her best to recreate that Vespertine experience
are you guys so gay that you would willingly listen to some industry plant pop whore ? the fuck?CAPTCHA: RYMN
>>128356088But bjork sucks, too white, too weird for tha sake of weirdness and she sings for fags exclusively. Rosalía got that latinx vibe, more heat and passion in her songs. Even straight guys love her. Way better.
>>128356268>latinx vibe, more heat and passion in her songsSounds gay as hell
Seriously what is this site's problem with Rosalia? Berghain and Motomami unbolded, El Mal Querer not even being 3.7, and now this? Everyone else rightfully glazing but here...
>>128356268This is bait but Rosalia is gayer. Her voice is too sweet and poppy, her music a lot more gay club-oriented. Bjork’s voice has a roughness to it that makes it less gay to be into
When does it get better im in track 2
>>128354131Based andalucia chad. Give me a huelva side chick
Porcelana is good but if she thinks shes doing something new with it she might be wrong
>>128356628Porcelana and La Rumba Del Perdón are the only decent songs in the album.>>128356658I'm dating a Jaén chick, good luck bro!
>>128356705It’s a Björk instrumental with some modern pop vocals.
>>128356871Yeah and she manages to shun bjork in this own album blasting over the top choral over her
a few good songs but mostly just aimless, pretentious warbling over boring instrumentals. very bjork-esque in that way, granted. the "zomg 13 languages!!1" stuff was way oversold also. motomami was better and she needs to understand she's not actually a generational "your favorite artist's favorite artist." 6/10
>NOOO IT'S NOT HECKIN ORIGINAL>SHE'S PLAYING EXISTING NOTES WHAT A HACK>I'VE HEARD ART POP BEFORE GUYS FUCKING RESPECT MEEE
>>128357093>motomami was betterEl Malquerer > Los Angeles > Motomami
>>128357256Motomami (her only honest work) > El Mal Querer (pretentious but solid) > Los Ángeles (unremarkable covers) > Lux (safe and unsubstantial)
>>128353057yeah, they only have a couple of tracks up on vritme but so far it sounds awesomeLOL can you imagine the MAGA trash screeching if they had her do the Super Bowl halftime show?
>>128357406for those of you fragile MAGA trash who can't be fucked to learn Spanish, here's what the pic says:Rosalia, singer, 33 years old:"I don't have a personal trainer because I don't to have a man screaming at me. I don't want them telling me what I have to do."- the Catalan artist has physically and mentally prepared for a return to touring the world after the release of her new album 'Lux' next Friday.I hope the new tour comes through the USA, I've saw Rosalia live a few years ago at the O2 in London and she was fucking brilliant.
>>128357550*don't like to have a man screaming at me
>>128357550you understand it's not 2016 and maga isn't just a handful of corn farmers from middle america anymore, right
>>128357550>MAGA is when you don’t speak Spanishlmao
Porcelana is influenced by Nigga Heil Hitler LMAO!!!!!!
OK heard the rest of the new album, it's brilliant. One of the few that actually live up to their hype.>>128357583>>128357741>implying MAGA trash didn't lose their damn minds and start screeching because Bad Bunny said that people need to learn Spanish>implying that MAGA trash haven't been digging in on the "English Only" USA thing, insisting that government documents are only available in English etc.jesus christ you really are some disingenuous fucks, aren't you?>>128357754>LOL based Ye strikes againTay won
Guy-Manuel did some production on this apparently
>>128357852not surprised, there are some Daftpunkian moments on the record for sure.
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>>128357550>I've saw Rosalia live a few years ago at the O2 in London and she was fucking brilliant.Saw that tour as well. One of the best shows I ever been to and I'm kinda sad there's still no official concert film from that tour.
>>128357928>RAULlol
lmao imagine still simping for grandma Björk who peaked 30 fucking years ago
>>128357986they're both good
Theres something dishonest about this album, like someone found it boring and tried so hard to make it interesting with random touches
>>128358102>tried so hard to make it interesting with random touchesif so, they succeeded, it's a great record imho.
>>128358246You're a gullible simpleton imho
You all just keep saying she's not original, it's not groundbreaking, she's trying really hard, it's pretentious. Alright what are some albums that go for the same thing but do it better? I'm talking production, vocals, ambition. Surely you guys have some recs.
The Weeknd's album was more interesting than this tbfh
>>128358544Vespertine
>>128358544bjork is honest artrosalia is pretentious expensive fraudulent arthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIhLCXmrCm8
>>128358544Top row for spanish records that already mixed flamenco with popular music.Bottom row for the artists she's trying to imitate on this while failing miserably.
>>128358638Nonono. This sounds absolutely nothing like ArchAndroid. Where did you get this from? ArchAndroid is rooted in psychedelic soul, r&b, funk and there’s not even an element of any of that here. It’s also the most American record ever. Aviary is chamber/choral polyphonic music, it’s not orchestral. It’s also a lot more dissonant and chaotic, while Rosalia goes for arrangements that are overall traditional and melodic, as far as classical music is concerned. This does have elements of Vespertine because of some of the arrangements. But Vespertine is overall a lot quieter and obviously there’s no flamenco in it.
>>128358544i feel like this one from a couple months ago has a similar aesthetic but has more interesting tuneshttps://tinangelrecords.bandcamp.com/album/hagen
this my first time hearing oscar bait as an album lol
>>128359231>This sounds absolutely nothing like ArchAndroid.Listen to Novia Robot. Maybe picking The Electric Lady would've fitted better tho.
I like it better than Motomami and less than Malquerer, because it's kinda long desu (although technically 3 of those songs are only in the physical release) and the second half drags a bit. Still, I applaud her decision to make each album sound different while at the same time sounding like a Rosalía album.
Does anyone have a new link to the Rosalia leak? The old one no longer works.
Holy shit, it's shit
>>128359965wondering too the main link is 404'd
>>128357850You sound like such an insufferable faggot. Just shut up cock sucker. Your taste is shit and youre an imbecile. Look that word up you trash spic. That's you
>>128359499>sounding like a Rosalía album.Who has even heard of this cunt ? Are all you Brazilians or something? Shes a literally who and its more mid annoying pop music. What is wrong with people
>>128360245>Who has even heard of this cunt ? Everyone on /mu/ and also people outside of it, don't be delusional.>Are all you Brazilians or something?Well, I'm Catalan, like she is, so I do enjoy her more because she's from here and that's cool. Usually catalan people aren't even famous locally.>Shes a literally who Delusionaland its more mid annoying pop music.I guess music is subjective after all>What is wrong with peopleYeah I wonder
>>128360367If you're catalán I recommend you to listen to the following artists instead of this talentless hack: Toti Soler, Tete Montoliu, Sílvia Pérez Cruz, María del Mar Bonet and Jordi Sabatés.
>>128360490buenu
>>128359254Mabe Fratti deserves more recognition
>>128359965>>128360118I do but i won't share it because faggots itt keep acting like insufferable pseuds. I'll just keep enjoying it on my own. You can easily find it on twitter tho.
>>128359965>>128360118>>128360560Alright i changed my mind, hoping we can actually get some decent discussion going. Don't say i never do anything for you faggots https://limewire.com/d/MrNIt#YO3HqZfWoS
>>128360553agreedpicrel was on my AOTY 2024 list
>>128360754Based anon, thanks
>>128354064>This album is just flamenco with strings, something Manolo Sanlúcar was already doing in the late 80s. It's also insanely redundant and datedMan, I bet I'd really care about any of that if I collected musicians like status symbols instead of listening to them for enjoyment.
>>128361121i seen people worship rosalia like she invited a new genre, there's an anon in thread already trying to turn her into something like a martyr against maga because she speaks spanish lol
>>128361121>>128361214>I'm not going to like this artist because I think other people like her for the wrong reasonsthis is really how you listen to music?
>>128361224>just turn your brain off bro and shut up
>>128361264This but unironically
the new Rosalia album is great, and once it's officially released will be in many top of 2025 lists I'm sure.>>128361214>there's an anon in thread already trying to turn her into something like a martyr against maga because she speaks spanish lolin thread? where? (ctrl-f "MAGA") all I see is >>128357491 points out that the MAGA would lose their damn minds if Rosalia played the Super Bowl, a fair assertion given their reaction to Bad Bunny playing the Owl.>>128357550 provides a translation of the article because generally speaking, MAGA (except for Latino MAGA) not only doesn't speak Spanish, they become extremely offended if you suggest that perhaps we should learn. So anon translated it.help me understand: how does that mean anon is trying to make Rosalia a MAGA martyr?
>>128361264>not caring what other people think about the album you're listening to = turning your brain offthis place has truly gone to hell
I do like it, but at the same time I'm annoyed at the fact it was carefully crafted to be critically praised. It obviously sounds great as she employed a team of great sound sculptors and arrangers, but it doesn't really feel that genuine as an artistic statement. It lacks any excitement or actual experiment. The classical music featured here is basically impossible to dislike, as it's quite normal. The beats, we've all heard them before and they're well-made. And the vocal melodies are a mixture of flamenco and pop which obviously sounds nice.
>>128361493So she made a good album you enjoyed and you're annoyed because it's good and you enjoyed it
Everything about Rosalia's projects feels completely manufactured and stiff, it blows my mind that she receives this much attention. Is it the fact that she's just vaguely experimental so people can pretend they're edgy for liking it? Also, Berghain has been decidedly irrelevant for nearly a decade. The idea of someone wanting to namedrop or gatekeep it in 2025 is hysterical.
>>128361525nta but the comparisons to "oscar bait", a term i'm sure you're familiar with and understand and don't need to pretend to be obtuse about, are pretty apt
>>128361525I do find it good - especially the production - but because of what I mentioned, not exceptional. Maybe if she wasn't trying to create "a masterpiece" the album would've been a lot more interesting and an actual masterpiece.
>On Originality and Innovation: While it draws from flamenco traditions, Lux innovates by blending them with global electronic and orchestral elements in a way that's accessible yet experimental—much like how El Mal Querer fused opera with trap. Critics ignoring this might undervalue her role in modernizing Andalusian sounds for international audiences, as evidenced by her Grammy wins and influence on artists like Bad Bunny.
>>128361758>On Pretentiousness and Overambition: Ambition isn't pretension; Rosalía's multilingual approach and Björk-inspired intimacy (e.g., the album's chamber-pop intimacy) reflect a deliberate expansion of her palette, not imitation. This mirrors how artists like Kate Bush or Fiona Apple were once dismissed as "warbly" but later canonized—Lux could age into a cult favorite for its bold vulnerability.
>>128361769>On Production Over Substance: The "commercial" sheen is a feature, not a bug: high production elevates emotional lyrics about love, loss, and identity (e.g., in "Porcelana"), creating immersive soundscapes that reward replays. Dismissing it as ad-like ignores how pop innovation often starts "manufactured" (think ABBA or Daft Punk), and early reviews praise its sonic cohesion over raw grit.
>>128361778>On Career Opportunism and Inauthenticity: Rosalía's shifts aren't flip-flopping but organic growth—from raw flamenco discovery to genre-blending stardom—rooted in deep Catalan/Andalusian training (e.g., her conservatory background). Accusations of inauthenticity smack of cultural gatekeeping; her authenticity shines in live performances and collaborations, proving she's not just chasing hits but sustaining a dialogue with her heritage.
>>128361785>On Structural Weaknesses: At 18 tracks, it's ambitious rather than bloated, offering variety that rewards deep listens (similar to Motomami's eclectic sprawl). Standouts like the guest-heavy cuts show smart curation, and calling it her "worst" overlooks metrics like streaming numbers or fan reception, where early data suggests strong engagement despite /mu/'s cynicism.
Anyone have new download link?
>>128361795>Overall, the thread's vibe is classic 4chan contrarianism—valuing obscurity over success—but Lux positions Rosalía as a versatile innovator worth defending for her fearless pivots.
>>128361803>>128360754 should still be up
>>128361795>Well, it's doing numbers so it must be good!It's genuinely frightening how AI fails to produce insights that don't read like hot takes from your local office NPC
>>128361493It’s just a lot of money. I’m sure anyone from here could release an album like that (or even better) with the same production budget
>>128361847>Ouch, fair. Here's a better counter to “structural weaknesses”>Arc, not bloat: 18 tracks trace a theatrical journey—courtship to collapse. Second-half “drags” are the comedown; Vespertine did it first.>Features as architecture: Guests aren’t crutches; they’re load-bearing beams stretching her voice into new dialects.>Length as immersion: 55 mins of evolving motifs (claps, glass synths) rewards full spins, not playlist snipers.Risk over radio: She could have made a 12-track banger reel. Chose opera instead. Punishing ambition ≠ valid critique.>Not “numbers = good.” It’s built to feel uneven at first—like a novel, not a ringtone. That good enough for you, anon?
>>128361897I see. So the album kinda makes itself? What's the difference between her and someone like Taylor Swift who also has infinite money but only churns out trash?
>rosaliafag used grok to diss /mu/ and shill the albumbruh
>>128361785>a dialogue with her heritageWhat kind of retarded K-word salad slop is this
>oscarbait well it certainly worked
>>128361970unless you're a coked up PR agent none of this means anything lmao. 55 mins of claps and glass synths as an evolving motif give me a break. I can accept this line of thinking if Rosalia is literally the only music you've been exposed to.
>>128362045Taylor Swift is not desperately trying to be regarded as a groundbreaking art-pop act à la Björk or Kate Bush. She’s already a cemented name in the industry with a solid PR to back her up and a established audience ready to gobble down whatever slop she releases unconditionally. See what happened with “The Life of a Showgirl”.
>>128353057She's sucking up to Bjork so fucking much lmao
>>128360560>>128360754thanks anon first time reaction I like it never heard of her before
>>128362844I get what the anons are saying about how manufactured and pretentious the album feels but i just can't argue with the results. Even in all its vapidness at least when it comes to pop music it just clears every major release this year. Ironically number 2 would be the Bad Bunny record lmao
>>128363462meant to reply to OP whatevernumber 3 is Natalia Lafourcade, kinda noticing a pattern
>>128353498>she decided to release pop reggaeton trash for 5 yrs or something just for the money and fame. Now she suddenly wants to pretend to be the next Bjork, but Bjork at her most commercial never went that low/thread
>>128363479Check out the Milo J recordGreat year for pop music in the Hispanosphere. Lots of folk music being successfully mixed with adventurous pop.
>>128364392Will do anon. The Mon Laferte was also excellent.
>>128363462Bad bunny is shitPeople are delusional
>>128356247It's the state of nu/mu/ take it or leave
>>128364452llora más chud
>>128364452NO NO TE PUEDO OLVIDARNO NO TE PUEDO BORRARhttps://youtu.be/2Y4zvxK0wYM
I'm so excited for this album. Not gonna listen to the leaks. Gonna wait til Friday.
>listen to the album >enjoy it>come here>contrarians seething Madre mía, Diosalía, bájale.
>>128365610Final third of the album is a slog and the closer is piss weak, but fear not, Reddit and RYM will give this album the praise it richly deserves. The cavalry is on the way.
Latinx music fucking SUCKS and you are all fucking Latinx morons for listening to this pure shit.
>>128365727>Final third of the album is a slogIn her defense, Focuranni, Jeanne and Novia Robot won't be on the streaming version, only physical, which cuts down 10 minutes of the second half.
>>128365748Nothing about her or this album is latino you fuckin idiot, not everything Spanish comes from Mexico.
>>128365208it's worth the wait anon
>>128365760>novia robot (the only miss) is a bonus trackoh so it's actually perfect, good to know
>>128365862Is it technically bonus tracks if they are included in the physical vinyl or cd? Shouldn't that version be the "real" one while the streaming is "reduced"? But at the same time, nowadays everybody streams so, I guess they will be considered bonus tracks (until deLUX comes out).
She's so lame and literally sold her soul to the industry.
>>128366057Something you’d do in a heartbeat
>>128366273I'm not an artist, so no. I also prefer not being owned by jews.
>>128366057>literally sold her soul to the industryIf anything she actually uses the industry to her own benefit, because she knows the general public and the press will love whatever she does so she can choose to do whatever the fuck she wants and not worry about it being a flop. I truly want to believe she goes in different directions in each album because it's what she really wants, I doubt she thinks "what do people want, what do they expect, what kind of songs will kill it on the radio".
>>128364392>Milo JDoes Milo J have a new record coming out?His debut record is great. I figure if Trump is gonna send $40 million of my tax dollars to Argentina at least hopefully some will trickle down to Milo J. Not bloody likely but you never know.
>>128367093Juana Molina too
Malquerer > Lux > Los Ángeles> Motomami
>>128360490SOC CATALANA!!!11!!!!Dude stop seething, she is a great artist. Motomami might have sucked but this one is more like her first album and its good. I get it you are 15 and edgy (or 45 and a virgin) and need to hate on anything that is popular, but that doesn't make you any better or more interesting of a person. Only catalonian artist worth your time is Els Cundits btw.
>>128368732>Only catalonian artist worth your time is a literal who btw.Let me educate you anon:https://youtu.be/Ml_V-Kupf4o?si=X5b1QRpsMJiMQifphttps://youtu.be/dCj4hgMtdic?si=9YK_HShHRA0h9ikYhttps://youtu.be/1blhm_SYRjc?si=NojoXLacY48E5GNZhttps://youtu.be/iq7sdAg99yA?si=kPnIF7mR28MyNS0uhttps://youtu.be/A-J0UvHAHUI?si=hQVqYZvbSYof1lRMhttps://youtu.be/Rts8YuwQQI4?si=8d5SmUcCJlg-WhHMhttps://youtu.be/YH2u2dSgU4M?si=7d3nuyFtdUpZLrX4
>>128368732>Only catalonian artist worth your time is Els Cundits btwMare meua la basadessa For me it's Passió pel Swing and both Relats Fascinants (menció honorífica a Gormiti per ser un banger).
>>128369355This is the main reason why nobody takes our music scene seriously. Not even spanish people know shit about it.
>>128369389>This is the main reason why nobody takes our music scene seriously.When they try to you sperg out about how artists people know are actually mid and you know better
>>128369443Are you drunk? And sure, you're gonna tell me the average spanish person has ever heard about any of the bands or artists I posted, stop seething and start lurking.
>>128355599I've seen this chart multiple times now and every time I listen to a random album on it it's been a delight, shoutout to you random spanish anon
>>128368963>>128369389No one in spain takes catalufos seriously because you are always complaining and speaking as if your issue is the most important thing happening in spanish society. Also fuck your turism tax and hotel prices.Thanks for the music tho, will deffo check it out
>>128362844No way its more like Bjork understood she hit the limits of where she can go and is literally grooming or coaching someone with beyond even a raw vocal talent as she had to become the GOAT singer, its honestly amazing when I heard Berghain that was like hearing a new Mozart song actually mind blowing. Bjork must have heard that too and that all she needed was too teach Rosalia about symphonics and let her loose.>>128365748Its one of the whitest fucking songs of all time, its legitimately making white skinned Latinas officially White like more White than some of you dumb chud niggers.
>>128370741>that was like hearing a new Mozart songDon’t embarrass yourself like this. Try to listen at least half of the Köchel catalogue and think about this stupid thing you just said.
>>128370647I'm andaluz, not catalufo. They can get pretty annoying, but they have great music too. I wasn't speaking solely for catalonian music but spanish as a whole.>>128370124Thanks anon! You should download the chart, since I've been updating it for months but now I think is big and diverse enough, so I won't change it for a while.
>>128370741>when I heard Berghain that was like hearing a new Mozart song actually mind blowingsay sike right now
Bump cause it’s coming out soon
Sage cause nobody cares
>>128372442I'd rather have a thread with actual discussion about the album and not just pseuds trying to flex. Make a new one when the album is actually out on DSPs.
