Why is the saxophine seen as cool in pop culture while the other air instruments are seen as lame (specially the tuba)? Conversely, why arent there saxophones in orchestras?
>>128479013Because they hard mog the other instruments.
>>128479058You mean in timbre? Variability? Praticality?
>>128479013The very concept of "cool" was literally invented by a trumpeter.
>>128479058only tenor sax does, everything else isnt high T enough
>>128479013tuba is comically over-sizedand general population, especially in the USA, doesn't know many or any instruments that aren't in rock/pop bandsprob couldn't name three instruments in an orchestrait's also a class divide, I'll admit.
>>128481319chet baker?
>>128481319Lester Young was not a trumpeter
People who know reggae fuck with melodicas
https://youtu.be/lpqDTQOFvf0
>>128479013Sax immediately makes me think of a bustling city. All sax music has an urban vibe to me. Even if it's not jazz. And I guess city life is seen as cool.
>>128479013Didn’t Trump blow Clinton’s saxophone?
>>128483520And also, it's city night life, which is even cooler. I'm not even that interested in jazz but I would go to late night jazz clubs that were in basements in the city and it was just cool. I even took dates that didn't give a shit about it, but the vibe was enough to be fun.
>>128483572Even in some Bowie songs where he uses it, it gives that impression. For him, it's more like urban decay. I think Candidate is about a gang leader getting into politics.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCPycVuiIJA
>>128483572Have you heard Bohren & der Club of Gore? Great stuff.https://youtu.be/X2cEtEebGPo
>>128483651Fucking based, I knew that album cover but couldn't ever remember the band name. Thanks bro.
>>128479013>Conversely, why arent there saxophones in orchestras?It wasn't invented until the 1846. Most of the "classics" were composed before then. Similarly, if you see a performance of baroque music you will find few, if any brass instruments as they hadn't been fully developed. 20th century composers have made use of the sax (like Shostakovich). To add: you will less frequently see devoted sax players in these groups, more often a reed player will double on the instrument.
>>128483698>It wasn't invented until the 1846. Most of the "classics" were composed before then. Similarly, if you see a performance of baroque music you will find few, if any brass instruments as they hadn't been fully developed.Haydn trumpets are great though. Instant smile on my face. I feel like skipping. Not the urban vibe I get from sax.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDXPC5QGrLE
>>128479013I think as to why it's considered cool while other winds are not, it's because of the tone and application.If you "classical" repertoire on sax, say in a quartet, it sounds perfectly nerdy. But played with gusto, with rasp, it screams like Joe Cocker. That's really it I think, it is perfectly suited to blend into rock music. You get a velvety low register like a beautiful woman and a screaming upper register like some crying sissy, Prince.
there was one example of a great clarinet https://youtu.be/7jzx664u5DA
Crazy stuff.https://youtu.be/oSq44K0O4Iw
>>128483937god what a comfy time
