Hovhaness editionhttps://youtu.be/JCC796Wrw3IThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>128456203
>>128481027love that image
now playingProkofiev: Allegro tempestoso from Sonata No. 3, Op. 28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt32G7bPdGk&list=OLAK5uy_lzNt0VoPJd-HyyAJw6Ir3EUI_D4ZuUg_M&index=6start of Prokofiev: Sonata No. 4, Op. 29https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVOlyYmX5gc&list=OLAK5uy_lzNt0VoPJd-HyyAJw6Ir3EUI_D4ZuUg_M&index=7start of Prokofiev: Sonata No. 5 (Second Version) , Op. 38/135https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9vDwImBdrQ&list=OLAK5uy_lzNt0VoPJd-HyyAJw6Ir3EUI_D4ZuUg_M&index=14https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lzNt0VoPJd-HyyAJw6Ir3EUI_D4ZuUg_M>Nissman made history in 1989 by becoming the first pianist to perform the complete piano sonatas of Sergei Prokofiev in a series of three recitals in both New York and London, and premiered the two-page fragment of Prokofiev's Piano Sonata No. 10 in E minor, Op. 137 (1952) during her Prokofiev series at Lincoln Center.[30][31] Her recordings of this repertoire represented the first complete set of Prokofiev's piano sonatas made available on compact disc.[32]pretty cool. I've always felt a special affinity for Prokofiev's piano sonatas, and I'm thinking it might be time to explore as many different recordings of them as I can -- there's certainly a ton, with new ones coming out everywhere. So where else better to start than at the very beginning?
Chopin gave life objective meaninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K8CH1RUWH8
better than hurwitz
>>128481027For the first time in my life I'm enjoying listening to the Music for 18 Musicians by Steve Reich. All my previous attempts ended less than 5 minutes in on Section I, once I confirm that Pulses is not an isolated joke and the rest of the piece continues in the same vein. But now it feels kinda meditative. Had a shit day at work but now listening to it and don't care. What's the best recording? Listening (and watching) to this version. How they move in sync is also quite mesmerizing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71A_sm71_BIThis Thursday went to a world premiere of a new piece - Time to Time by Tania León. Did not care for it much. After that listened to Concerto for Saxophones and Orchestra composed by Roberto Sierra, with James Carter as a soloist (to whom it is dedicated). I enjoyed it a lot more - the way saxophone intertwines with orchestra is majestic. I'd want to listen to a recording - I didn't know saxophone can produce some of these sounds. Also as an encore he played a piece and it was so loud! Didn't know saxophone can be that loud either. After intermission was Brahms 2 and it was overall okay, but I'm not a big fan of Brahms despite loving his Hungarian Dances to bits.Finished Music for 18 Musicians, final thoughts: humans are creatures ultimately positioned to make themselves unhappy. Without thought there's no one to be unhappy.Started watching Pluribus immediately afterwards.How's your weekend going, /classical/?
>>128481252Nice. I wish I owned either this or the Penguin Guide equivalent when I was a kid.
>>128481027https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmCnQDUSO4I Dmitri Shostakovich - Waltz No. 2
classical in the TikTok era
>>128481027https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-JHVnehtWw Ilya Shatrov - On the hills of Manchuria
>>128481290>muh repeats
>>128481307kek
>>128481269I've been in the mood to give all that RYMsister stuff another try lately, that work included. You saying it finally clicked with you after all this time gives me some hope.> but I'm not a big fan of Brahms ...or maybe not!
which Mass in B minor to listen to today...
>>128481569
>>128481569>>128481594https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMHhf4mH1WM&list=OLAK5uy_lD8fzXifY-swO7I17CS_m_suuoSkZQ5tA&index=1
>>128481237what is it
Post what you are listening to, /classical/>Brahms PC 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaRLLZ3Jb4A&list=OLAK5uy_lHEIRiFaBEgeVLE_QtE4tdbZx-11WDmSM&index=1>Scriabin impromptu 12 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWa8jkm8ea4>Chopin 48 1 Hofmann performance analysishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1-9pqGCAA
>>128481703Probably being a faggot stuck listening to the same overrated piano composer.
>>128481269>enjoying Steve Reich>didn't know saxophone can be loud>not a big fan of Brahms>le 2deep pointless hedonism
>>128481855Chopin is at the summit, he definitionally cannot be overrated.
>>128481869>Chopin is at the summitYou put him there, by overrating him
>>128481855>>128481880>ov*rrating GOATNo such thing. Also you used the reddit word >>>/r/eddit/
>>128481759https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-vHWVEoNUc&list=OLAK5uy_lD8fzXifY-swO7I17CS_m_suuoSkZQ5tA&index=7
>mfw I only like some of Mozart's mature works but hate his symphonies, string quartets, and operasOnly chamber music I like are the String quintets, K. 452, and the Violin Sonata in E minor.
>>128481759I'm a tourist but I was listening to St. Matthew's Passion. I respect it, but I don't think I'm putting it in my playlist.
>quintett in Es für Klavier, Oboe, Klarinette, Horn und Fagott, KV 452Gayest composer ever to live has the word Faggot in his compositions, you can't make this shit up
>>128482183Listen to this aria right now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ODQLK0V6xwAlthough I agree. Both Matthew Passion and Mass in B minor are mostly boring. But then again I'm not a huge Bach fan, and I prefer instrumental music, so take that with a grain of salt. Get into romantic music.>>128482186>never looked at a score in his life
>>128482223>likes Mozart and probably sucked dick in his lifetime
>>128482223Honestly I could still justify the Mass in B minor but St. Matthew's is just too hueg as a whole and I don't really like splitting up pieces in my playlist.
>>128482238Forget about the damn playlist, the introduction and some of the arias are too beautiful to ignore.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpUYe5-EPSM
>>128482308Yeah fair enough would be a bit of a shame and I'll probably run into the problem a few times later anyway. Too late now but tomorrow I'll go through it again and save the parts I liked most.
>>128482238>>128482337There's some highlight albums of the St Matthew Passion I like, like Solti's. A lot of the solo recitatives are a harsh listen, especially for a newcomer, so no need to feel bad about it.
>>128481296>On the Hills of Mancuria
>>128481269Good stuff, Steve Reich
>beethoven has no good melodi-- ACKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abo_ANVramU&list=OLAK5uy_nIe5auw6SUxO5XaV0J-bc6S2bBKF07sgo&index=1
now playingstart of Weinberg: Symphony No. 2 for String Orchestra, Op. 30https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4jEMd4nWto&list=OLAK5uy_n2p7g3bFs2GcftscxXtUq-B9YeNJsv4dg&index=2start of Weinberg: Symphony No. 21, Op. 152 „Kaddish“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJWwZplM3yo&list=OLAK5uy_n2p7g3bFs2GcftscxXtUq-B9YeNJsv4dg&index=4https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n2p7g3bFs2GcftscxXtUq-B9YeNJsv4dgSurely one of the great recordings of the past decade.
>>128481569Listened to picrel earlier.It’s glacially paced, as one would expect from Celibidache, but I enjoyed it.
>>128482943Based. Check out his Mozart Requiem and Bruckner Mass No. 3 too. All great.
>>128483027I just got picrel, so I'll be working my way through all of his performances with the Münchner (which include those pieces).I mainly got it for the Bruckner, but I'm really enjoying some of the other performances as well.
>>128481759https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWtpP3ke8AI
>>128481569https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueZQkMfYosE&list=OLAK5uy_nfq6vrt8MSgHdcUDX-2OFDzqvWYMUeEXA&index=17
>>128481938"Chopin" is the most reddit word there is, faggot
>>128482238>not listening to a work because of mmmuuhhh playlist>letting computers dictate his tastesad, sad sad
Apaeridos De Cellohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKUyNARNF2c&list=RDLKUyNARNF2c&start_radio=1There doesn't seem to be more of this
>>128483547the word was right there, you read it before typing
Alexis-Emmanuel Chabrierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPdFj4PYh2Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmvvAwRvTMAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfGUWdIAsYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mp6pzZr-khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m32ek_n6As
Giovanni kind of has the Innsmouth look
>>128483845the what
Totenanz Liszthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nVmFlSV1ok&list=RD7nVmFlSV1ok&start_radio=1
Lousadzakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inpOQ_il82E
>>128483768Thank you Chabrier poster
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyo4ehz8R3o&list=OLAK5uy_msPSB2xEGGbkTWyAZX2xJaUJzOR5mYLUs&index=10
>>128482559https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cELMIRPiZw&list=RD5cELMIRPiZw&start_radio=1
>>128484463Hey, I'm just glad someone else's enjoying it
>>128484492might as well etc
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-C2EDUCag4&list=OLAK5uy_nHdKPq5vYbdBBW0buWWMVIrswFeVhglEU&index=17
Schiff's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D66JtmOSvfE&list=OLAK5uy_mfcJzin1dvuiiCiY8Jfuk2xU6nHfd2xM8&index=14
>>128485524lovely
>>128474911Like the other anon said, if I had a list of the possible options to reference, yes, I think I'd have a very high hit rate. This goes for most composers and well-known pieces I'm familiar with.
>>128485524"Music for ladies salons" -some composer, I forget which one, but he was right
>>128485778sometimes you just wanna chill
>>128485789Fair enough
>>128481027Please recommend me opera to fall asleep.
>>128486041no.
>>128486041Wagner The Meistersinger of Nuremberg
>>128485778>remembers Chopin>doesn't remember his detractorreally makes you think
>>128486041Alexander Stoddart is a devoted Wagnerian and he admits Wagner puts himself to sleep.https://youtu.be/lGOpw8nr_es?t=1438
>>128486041any Wagner
>>128485183I'm just glad some else is shilling him after so long of me spamming his name on here.
>>128486154I looked it up, and it was Schumann. Not a big fan of his sentimental slop either.
>>128486326Ha! Been there. I usually only come here once every couple of months to shill a lesser appreciated composer and then book it.
>>128486406It seems like he's overlooked because of his jollity and Gallic charm. Apparently you can't make great music in the romantic era if you aren't a depressive, suicidal or bipolar
I'm not a big fan of this frowning, depressive, me against the world, type of music like Mahler, Beethoven, and Tchaikovsky.Post some clownish/happy music /classical/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_aCpAcK4l8&list=RD0_aCpAcK4l8&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT7iLG-UCdE&list=RDlT7iLG-UCdE&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W70L5ecSGSk&list=RDW70L5ecSGSk&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RJ_4shanxo&list=RD7RJ_4shanxo&start_radio=1
>>128486120But that's his best opera.
>>128486543But Liszt was a romantic composer and no one wrote better music than him between 1825 and 1885>>128486603Yeah, just Imagine what the others can do to a man
>>128486543I think he's overlooked because with his meagre, deceptively superficial role as a composer of "cabaret" tunes he managed to inyect the establishment with truly radical and daring harmonic and timbric that a properly educated, a.k.a. not a "mere dilettante" as he was bound to be dismissed time and time again couldn't have had in himself, not in a million years-- And others who weren't dilettantes but also weren't full-fledged academics who were still on the fence about the New German Music and the french nationalism of his time saw in him a crucible of all their tendencies and modus operandii and their philosophical backing and obviously something of a pioneer, albeit one with a small oeuvre, of the musical language they were trying to create, one that would do both without the francospaniard national school and the school of new german music: An amalgam of the best, most memorable, most emotionally charged, most timbrically beautiful of both works where they can sit down, have a drink, and finally -FINALLY- get to writing some NEW, GOOD, MODERN MUSIC FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO ENJOY!! And all of this kinda had its crucible and its catalyst: Emmanuel the Goats Herder for Apollo himself:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mp6pzZr-khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICHTtSwJCk>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmvvAwRvTMA>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfGUWdIAsYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlCu_FmWKAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPdFj4PYh2Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m32ek_n6As
Despicable Me: Another Celibidache Loon Rides to the Rescuehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHLp3RfMJU
>>128487961>the hate mailer didn't call David Horowitzsteinmanberg a filthy kike or at least a child of the devil ShameAnyway, I hope the person who wrote the screed is sufficiently embarrassed because it reads like it was handwritten with a quill by someone who owns all the fedoras in the world.
>>128481252>the best of the best>Bernstein's Schumann, Karajan's Bruckner, Mackerras's Mozartkek>>128483119Friedberg based
Wagnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYj80IsD8yQ
>>128488265i got memed into buying bernstein's schumann. the first movement of the first symphony sounds so bad it's hard to believe. the balance is completely off, all you hear is the brass. the music is devoid of any line, it's just one blaring tutti juxtaposed against the other with some quiet fumbling in between. why this stuff was released is a mystery, why both libbey and hurwitz recommend this stuff is beyond belief.
>>128487961the viewer comment is obviously some sort of parody
>>128488265>Mackerras's MozartThis in particular ticks me off. Everywhere I see people foaming at the mouth over Mackerras and I just can't see why.
>>128481869>>128481938Looks like I hit a nerve, kek.>reddit wordWhat, like Chopin?
>>128488788Who knows. With the amount of cultists, I wouldn't be surprised if one of you /classical/ retards made that comment lol
>>128488985nobody here writes that good.
>>128483456>>128488946>no uThanks reddit. Maybe go back there sisters
>>128481759Uchida's Mozart PCs, going through my faves, 20, 23, 24 and 21. Sometimes all I want is some 'zart. What's so funny is that some people boast about classical era composers "development" sections, yet Mozart does exactly what Tchaikovsky does in his late symphonies, repeats his pretty melodies in different keys, reigisters, decorates etc. There is no fundamental difference between the melodic developments, whereas it gets radically different with short motifs like in Beethoven's sonata no.32, which can be more easily manipulated, which are also not inherently "better" or "worse" than melodic development. Some people lack the necessary IQ to understand and enjoy both.
now playingstart of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 12 in A-Flat Major, Op. 26 "Funeral March"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOhr_1rFJzM&list=OLAK5uy_l98z-9zxOBq1Yko2yOZUsprroyGFrusJA&index=2start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 13 in E-Flat Major, Op. 27 No. 1 "Quasi una fantasia"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6XFAO6k8Pw&list=OLAK5uy_l98z-9zxOBq1Yko2yOZUsprroyGFrusJA&index=6start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 14 in C-Sharp Minor, Op. 27 No. 2 "Moonlight"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0syHqCG1mI&list=OLAK5uy_l98z-9zxOBq1Yko2yOZUsprroyGFrusJA&index=10start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 15 in D Major, Op. 28 "Pastoral"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dmexRBvcg&list=OLAK5uy_l98z-9zxOBq1Yko2yOZUsprroyGFrusJA&index=12https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l98z-9zxOBq1Yko2yOZUsprroyGFrusJA
Abbado!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V5FsLWLMIA&list=OLAK5uy_lvGxD9KU6gewdMoXlWVdDYcpJhDUB_tW8&index=1
thoughts on the violinist Yehudi Menuhin? think his recordings hold up?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKtnJoGgHFQ
Tchaikovsky’s Formula for Explosive Climaxeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPjzZ1zvkaIThis was a nice vid, I rec everyone to watch
Fazil Say's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Utl4Xzd2k&list=OLAK5uy_mRwY-LEYgdR7t8IzaA4TlYyyh_M2kPi9w&index=14
>>128490077very cool, thanks
Anyone actually like Schnittke's symphonies?
here to spotlight an underrated gem: Minju Choi. lightweight modern classical, really stellar stuff. I heard her on my local radio station.https://youtu.be/Y2fYQfBYg0s?si=dFGqAM8bU3Ntk4F5https://youtu.be/krAco9Px7Hg?si=pauf97Db0-DU_zHZhttps://youtu.be/UkcWy53Ff84?si=vmdTnsLZTGI87y-j
>>128481027Does anyone know how to rip digitalconcerthall streams? Planning to start my free trial to grab:https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/concert/53774?utm_source=youtubeBut want to be prepared beforehand.
>>128481759I had the displeasure of listening to HIP Mozart's D minor piano concerto. Time to cleanse my ears with Szell/Serkinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xmA4mQk5ns&list=OLAK5uy_lRpAWs_7aQSTwZ8zNKsB4i2OZDuFZHrY8&index=4How could you not love this concerto? Or the slow movement of no.23?
>>128489295>don't "no u" me! only *I* may "no u" you!
>>128491582>only *I* may "no u" you!Scherzo moment. Learn what "no u" is, redditor. And gtfo of my general, reddisgrace.
>>128481759>"I would rather have written Le Roi malgré lui than the Ring of the Nibelungen." So wrote Maurice Ravel of Emmanuel Chabrier's comic opera Le Roi malgré lui, or The Reluctant Kinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZmlbgQ8szghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt3ckZ2UgVkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0OqBRn99Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnMqCboehdY>>128490653They're alright, at least the first one, as far as post-war music goes.
>>128491642Not even a big Wagnerite but he caused some serious derangement syndrome, huh
>>128491621>REDDIT REDDIT REDDITOR REDDITObsessed Chop-peen cuck. Your whole life is a scherzo. Kill yourself.
>>128481759 Speaking of scherzoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsBni4emSHA&list=OLAK5uy_n7BO4rUm3KyjDiY50qbLNoCCrMA8qv1OYMoiseiwitsch, besides having the *definitive* op.62 no.2, is truly one of the GOATs. Doesn't get mentioned as much for some reason.>>128491683 Thank you reddisgrace, maybe consider leaving this general? It has no upvotes or golds, time to pack up >>>/r/eddit/
>>128491674>mmuuuhh derangement syndrome
>>128491747Yeah, if your first instinct when you want to give praise to what you love is not to make its superior qualities salient but rather to diminish another work by comparison, then you demonstrate a pathological relationship to the art in question.
>puts on Messiaen's Vingt regards sur l'enfant-Jésus>naps for two hoursdamn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7ST1KNHA8I think I can feel what Ludwig The Second felt during his coronation. Being surrounded by warlike barbarians, sycophants, cunning and shallow women that he desperately tried to avoid. His inner Aryan spirit was too pure for this disgusting and wretched world. Those filthy dirty inferior humans were trying to pollute his purity, I still believe he would have killed himself if not for the Bard of Bacchus,"Wagner". It was Wagner who provided Ludwig with the stairs to Elysium, eternal bliss and salvation, an escape from this vulgar entrapment of Maya.
>>128491799>>128492055le vagner xd
do you Wagner fans have playlists of your favorite movements or you're just listening to these operas all the way through all day everyday?
>>128491799oh is that what you've been told to think>>128491674>Not even a big Wagneritewink wink
>>128492362No, and actually Wagner did it a lot too, which always makes me roll my eyes. But it's more forgivable as an artistic vanity from a man whose vision was authentically quite challenging for the culture of his day than as this habit of his opponents to make a performance of their superficial comparatives. Unsubstantial and beneath dignity.
>>128492527Wagner did it more than anyone else. Also "I'd rather have written X piece than Y, which is universally acknowledge as amongst the greatest" is nowhere near an example of your so-called derangement. You're just permanently aching for a chance to jump at Wagner's defense like a good doggy. People like you, not Wagner himself, are the worst thing about Wagnerism.
Thoughts on Dudamel? Do we like him?
>>128492625It is a perfect example because it's an meaningless statement that makes no qualities of Chabrier salient, only the frustrations of Ravel towards Wagner. You reveal far more defensiveness in your assumption that anyone bothered by these kind of flashy little quotations, which occur nearly as much about Mozart and Beethoven (for example, those awful and precious remarks of Steve Reich and Glenn Gould), must be a Wagnerite. Wagner often expressed sentiments no less worthless, which is why he's so often been quoted here to start similar such arguments.
I find it interesting Martha Argerich has a full Beethoven violin sonata cycle (with Gidon Kremer) yet not a single studio piano sonata recording.>>128492638He's okay. Overhyped. Good enough to where most of what I've heard from him I definitely enjoyed, but not enough to where I'd recommend it to anyone else or listen to it again.
>>128492638>dudameme
Messiaenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwJDtgvE8OQ&list=OLAK5uy_nXUofr6Iu90U_brhKNpkbMZTEgj8BsKFc&index=1
>>128492343elsa's einsam in trüben tagen;siegfried and brunnhilde's love duet from gotterdammerung;wein und brot des letzten mahles from parsifal;tristan act 3 prelude, etc. etc.wagner listening mostly means highlights for me these days.
>>128490473I listened to this and it was just Fazil saying "Bach" once and the other side was the wrestler Goldberg pronouncing it different ways. Total con, would not reccommend 3/10
>>128493242There's no way this tops the Serkin or Aimard recordings.Not. Listening.
Is learning piano for the ultimate interpretation of your favorite piano piece a worthy investmsnt? It involves spending 6 hours daily for 5-10 years of your life at least
>>128490851Sounds like a jumbled mess to me
>>128481027what's the reason for these type of edits of anime girls being annoying?
>>128494184Learn audiation instead.
>>128494481What's the matter?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rmMCj5Jbps
And God Created Gay Whaleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z23QQFe6eyI&list=RDZ23QQFe6eyI&start_radio=1
Majnunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLMgeoUG7oI&list=RDHLMgeoUG7oI&start_radio=1
>>128492761>It is a perfect example because I imagine it isYou're literally making up how other people feel and passing it as some obvious truth. You're lying and being bad at it. Get a job.
>>128495634Still waiting on the examples of positive qualities of Chabrier that are described by comparing him to a composer you want to denigrate. Should be easy if I'm lying so badly!
Bizarre rituals, erotic riteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKoJOK4dOo0&list=RDDKoJOK4dOo0&start_radio=1
>>128493975Nevermind me, just passing through with the single greatest recording of the Regards
>>128495715>described by comparing him to a composer you want to denigratewhy would you want that>Should be easy if I'm lyingthat's not how anything works
>>128495758>why would you want thatWhy wouldn't I want people to hold themselves to higher standards and give praise to the observable qualities of great music rather than relying on lazy comparisons that say nothing of the works themselves? The quotation says more about Wagner than it does about Chabrier.
>>128491642>The opera was not to the taste of Cosima Wagner, who attended an 1890 performance in Dresden. She wrote to Felix Mottl: "What vulgarity and lack of ideas. No performance in the world could conceal for an instant these trivialities."
>>128495737It's good but not the best. Too polished imo. Sounds like an ECM recording.
>tfw city orchestra is stuck with a female conductor for the foreseeable future
Thoughts on this Mahler 9?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVdS-zU9Qac
>>128496832>tfw my city's conductor is Manfred Honeck
Wagner.
He summoned cathedrals of sound from the abyss, where kings wept and Valkyries soared through veils of mortal woe.Now entombed in twilight’s grandeur, his spirit broods where music dares not breathe but in reverence.
>>128497316He was rolling in the cathedrals of the deep
>>128494481How can you be on 4chan and not get it
>>128493975Give it a try :)
Shostakovichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Oyr-ZpyFA&list=OLAK5uy_mfu3MVlN6p9WIK5eigJDDHOPp6DKE5GUY&index=32
>>128489295>>no uDo you even know what that means? You seem very confused, and obsessed with reddit for some reason. Ironically, you would get a lot of updoots there for masturbating to Chopin. I recommend you leave, if you're so obsessed.
>>128492055pbuh.>>128492343His operas are sacred texts that must be venerated as such. For that reason I never listen to a scene or an overture more than once a year and even then, only on a cold Saturday night in complete isolation.
>>128493242>>128493975>>128495737>>128496230Jesus fucking Christ, this stuff is really simple: for ANY solo piano Messiaen, you go directly to his wife. Those are by far the best recordings. None of this mushy crap.
>>128498356Live a little, anon.
>>128498356Ho lee fuck, they all have their merits, calm down.Btw it would be virtually impossible to make that piece of music "mushy"
>>128481759Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcqhb7m7d_0&list=OLAK5uy_mMwj-mwDF3WgLxIJ7WvA7yA60XhBGlkoE&index=28>>128498349>yet another no uThank you reddisgrace. 4chins has no upvotes or golds for you, time to pack up and leave >>>/r/eddit/ maybe?
>mushyso I like my dissonant, modernist pieces smoothed out and warmly played whenever possible, sue mealso as far as Messiaen's Vingt goes, Aimard's and Chamayou's recordings seem far colder to me than Yvonne's
>>128490851>>128494422imagine anons 100 years from now insisting that she's a genius composer
>>128498680We will all be in matrix by then, or extinct, music will likely not exist in 100 years.
kodaly
>>128499238Krenekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pepoKi4DiJY
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGX29L-kgjU
does anyone have this recording they can upload and share? it's not on the streaming service I use. please and thank you
>>128499275Love it, thank you.
>>128499352>Love you, thank it.ftfy
Stravinskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYwqG8pot6s&list=OLAK5uy_nHxG3343hDR9fuv0ew9Op1ke-Mp95SghM&index=8
Stravinskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp_ZgaDQ7pw&list=OLAK5uy_k6twhiyBBNjknXgPp7zMur7z76NQwkXaQ&index=1>Shortly before its notorious Paris ballet premiere in 1913, this was essentially how The Rite of Spring first saw the light of day. Leif Ove Andsnes and Marc-André Hamelin recapture the heady, visceral thrill which must have been in the air when Stravinsky sat down at the piano with Debussy to create this landmark of modernism.
There is a startling lack of modernist solo piano music. Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Messiaen... and that's it?
>>128499961What? There's tons of late Scriabin solo piano, Debussy, Berg, Hindemith, Webern, Schoenberg etc.
>>128500123Scriabin is more late romantic. Debussy is his own thing. Berg, Webern, Schoenberg, the entirety of their solo piano output fits on a single disc. That's my point.Hindemith, true.It's just lacking in comparison to every other era.
>>128500154It was the last breath of art music. I'm sure there are more great composers, but even among the ones we named there is a lack of quality compared to the romantics. And if Berg is modern, so is late Scriabin
Wagner was not human.
now playingLiszt: Polonaise mélancolique (No. 1) in C Minor, S. 223 No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPKtB01FbBI&list=OLAK5uy_lVxq9biY-PAhHaRAt7VDR1L5uULd6Qvcs&index=2Liszt: Ballade No. 2, S. 171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wk0yKC5kqc&list=OLAK5uy_lVxq9biY-PAhHaRAt7VDR1L5uULd6Qvcs&index=5start of Liszt: Piano Sonata in B Minor, S. 178https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpnJCFnXxow&list=OLAK5uy_lVxq9biY-PAhHaRAt7VDR1L5uULd6Qvcs&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lVxq9biY-PAhHaRAt7VDR1L5uULd6Qvcs>Stephen Hough has already proven his virtuoso credentials elsewhere, so he doesn't need to worry about his reputation for technique with this Franz Liszt collection. And his playing of the Ballade No. 2--deeply serious Liszt, and bristling with technical challenges--is enough to dazzle any listener. So when Hough doesn't dazzle as much in other challenging music, like the Polonaise No. 2 and, above all, the Sonata, we can presume that he is making interpretive decisions instead of ducking hazards he can't overcome. Hough's interpretation of the Sonata does pay some musical dividends. He takes the music very seriously and aims for expression at every moment. Still, there are climaxes in the Sonata, and in the Polonaise No. 2, that simply don't come off with sufficient force. Hough's choices, while they may be honorable, diminish the contrast between fury and philosophy that can be heard more fully in Liszt performances by Martha Argerich and Sviatoslav Richter. --Leslie Gerber
>>128500324Come on, he wasn't as bad as that.
dancing to Bach's Goldberg Variations,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2BMnu1S9GUcontext,>Just when you think there are enough recordings of Bach’s Goldberg Variations, here comes one that makes the music sound fresh off the page. The pianist Pavel Kolesnikov says he had “shied away” from performing Bach until he was invited to collaborate with the dancer and choreographer Anne Teresa De Keersmaeker on the Goldbergs; the result, with De Keersmaeker dancing and Kolesnikov playing live, has been seen by a few lucky European audiences this year.
>>128500368Sounds nice to mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERBBU1riOOk&list=OLAK5uy_mQQHe1rijKmerXT11PZQG1vnJTsgnOYSg&index=7Erica Jeal at The Guardian rates it 5 stars and calls it "revelatory", Jed Distler gives it a 6/10 and labels it "perfunctory", and lastly Colin Clarke at MusicWeb deems it "a miraculous performance."
>>128498392Follow your own advice by listening to Loriod. :)>>128498393And yet Osborne somehow manages it. I've heard Messiaen played like he's Chopin, so that's not true at all. Anyway, just listen to his wife play and enjoy.
>>128481027do girls really hate Rimsky-Korsakov bros?
now playingstart of Schubert: String Quintet in C Major, D. 956, Op. 163https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAvBVNGZkTg&list=OLAK5uy_m4PWbX9KDw4ACVeeBez7tfsV0iqH4jxPk&index=1https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4PWbX9KDw4ACVeeBez7tfsV0iqH4jxPkEasily one of my favorite recordings of this work now.
>>128502034I'd imagine they'd love Scheherazade, no?
falling in love with Schubert's earlier piano sonatashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhOEML4lrjw
i could listen to post-romantic slop 24/7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wccnGOo8UL8
Kreisler-Vaneyev - Praeludium and allegro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAWtfNHp0o4&list=RDWvY-Tg0xu5o&index=7
>>128496119shucks Cosima, who'dathunk you'd suffer from Chabrier Derangement Syndrom
>>128502963Very nice
>>128498356No. She's only the indisputable best at Catalogue D'Oiseaux/Réveil Des Oiseaux and the songs.>>128499961>>128500154Medtner, Feinberg, Busoni, Szymanowski, Skalkottas, Albéniz, Granados, Turina, Milhaud, Scelsi, Sorabji (sorry), and, though it's been said already: Hindemith. Mostly I feel the complete disregard of Joaquín Turina Pérez when modern piano is mentioned is criminal.
Riddle me this: Are The Tippett Quartet's recordings of Tippett's string quartets the best interpretations of said quartets? Does this apply to any other composer-named quartet?
>>128499961Leo Ornstein?
>>128503491>Does this apply to any other composer-named quartet?Depending on who you ask: Shostakovich Quartet and Taneyev Quartet. Oh and Amadeus Quartet surely counts. Pretty sure there's one more but I can't quite remember.
>>128503491BORODINORODINQUARTETUARTEThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YAzUC6LzNk
Do you think the Alban Berg Quartet is more famous than Alban Berg himself at this point?
>>128503608Hopefully.
>>128503608unfortunately
>>128503564>Borodin Quartet playing Borodin's QuartetsThey *are* great at it, certainly. Do they have much competition in that specific department though?
Which one of Scarlatti's Sonatas should I listen to, to hear the best counterpoint?,
>>128504870ever seen a more bitter little boy
>>128504870listen to this instead:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwmBmfvYU-U
>>128504891What does that even mean? Is that a question? Some kind of code? A mnemonic
Man Haydn is just...shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viy5Xe7-M68
I can't believe I'm saying this because I never thought it'd be possible, but Hovhaness is *even worse* than Ives.
>>128505089how so?
>>128505107Imagine the putrid pile of festering slime that is Ives and make it worse, somehow. That's Hovhaness. It boggles the mind but it's true
>>128505085thank you romantislopper
>Man Haydn is just...shit
>>128505119get your hearing and IQ tested
>>128505129Good post
>>128505138I bet you haven't listened to all of his symponies and couldn't identify individual ones just by listening to them
>>128505348nta but I could identify die mit dem Paukenschlag
>>128505370What about the other 105?
>>128505145I just did. Turns out they're both extraordinary and well above average. Ives is shit and Hovhaness is shit's shit.
>>128505406well nobody listens to those anyway right?
>>128505414>I just did. Turns out they're both extraordinary and well above average.Kek imagine actually replying like this
>>128505414I'd never seen your favorite little composer Vagner before who never sold much
>>128505348>you haven't listened to all of his symponies I have. It's not the feat you seem to think it is.>couldn't identify individual ones just by listening to them....so? Even if that were true, which might very well be because my memory's not at all infallible: What of it?
gonna be honest with you guys I don't really care for early beethoven
Alan H suit for piano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6564Qff7OfQ&list=RD6564Qff7OfQ&start_radio=1Fra Angelico https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3bOrm8_WY&list=RDru3bOrm8_WY&start_radio=1
>>128505089?Hovhaness is actually listenable tho. What a strange comparison, unless one of Hov's symphonies I haven't heard happens to be Ives-esque
>>128505458nobody does. 1800's Beethoven is the only Beethoven worth listening to.
>>128505448>....so? Even if that were true, which might very well be because my memory's not at all infallible: What of it?Surmise
>>128505458Define early. Are we talking Kurfürstensonaten, or are we talking Op 10?
>>128505474up to the second symphony/around Fidelio (I like the earlier version of Fidelio better though)
>>128505467I think I like the Pathetic Sonata the best, Earlyhoven is not too bad
>>128505479Huh... Well that's a take for sure.
>>128505479wait sorry I was under the impression that Fidelio was before the 3rd symphony. That's not the case.so up to around the 2nd symphony is my answer
>>128505466Hovhaness' most discordant/avant-garde symphony is probably Vishnu, written in his modernist period (1960-1969).
Kek imagine actually liking Hovhaness
>>128505513I also like Cherubini and Krebs.
now playingstart of Schubert: Piano Trio in B-flat Major, op. 99, D898https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylwOaMNM5k&list=OLAK5uy_mCMmghXzYgy0HX2zItH1-ZYgKNPwdHc8I&index=2start of Schubert: Piano Trio in E-flat Major, op. 100, D929https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZfB95NQUBI&list=OLAK5uy_mCMmghXzYgy0HX2zItH1-ZYgKNPwdHc8I&index=5https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCMmghXzYgy0HX2zItH1-ZYgKNPwdHc8Ione reviewer states,>Wu Han studied with Rudolf Serkin and is married to David Finckel of the Emerson Quartet. Philip Setzer -also an Emersonian, joins them here. so kinda cool, even though I don't even like the Emerson SQ lol
the first climatic part halfway through the final movement of Bruckner's 8th seems to always have at least one of the voices drowned out by the others in recordings, save for Chailly's, which for me kind of makes it the best by default.
>>128505531Heh heh heh better keep her away from bats
>>128505588. . . t r y . . . . . . . . t i n t n e r . . . . .
Lili Boulanger - Psalm 130 "Du fond de l'abîme" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYj3nP6l6DA&list=RDgYj3nP6l6DA&start_radio=1
>>128505597
>>128505588Chailly's is pretty great. Have you tried Boulez's? His is all about clarity of voices and lines. Blomstedt/Gewandhaus' too. But yes, most Brucknerians aren't about clarity, and seem to prefer a lush sonority.>>128505733>Tintner>Bruckner's 8thAnon, I...
>>128505778. . . Y e s . . ?
>>128505815funny but rude!
I've been listening to more singing type pieces recently. My criteria for them is very strict though
>>128505836"Criteria" is plural.
>>128505778>most Brucknerians aren't about clarity, and seem to prefer a lush sonorityHow can something be lush with no clarity?>>128505836>singing type pieces...do you mean... songs?
>>128505815He's ruined his Hovanhess brand trainers!
>>128505848lolol
>>128505842*My Criterias for them is very strict
>>128505848>Hovanhess brand trainersthat's all he's good for: to be stepped on
>>128505859
>>128505815please explain in technical terms why you think his music is bad. is it the fusion of baroque forms and eastern melodies? or perhaps the influence of Sibelius? just what is it?
>>128505929Sibelius is miles above hohovaneness
No John Adams I will NOT become ocean-it's not that simple
>>128505929>technical termsr p {\displaystyle p} or q {\displaystyle q} are not prime, then the factoring algorithm can in turn be run on those until only primes remain.A basic observation is that, using Euclid's algorithm, we can always compute the GCD between two integers efficiently. In particular, this means we can check efficiently whether N {\displaystyle N} is even, in which case 2 is trivially a factor. Let us thus assume that N {\displaystyle N} is odd for the remainder of this discussion. Afterwards, we can use efficient classical algorithms to check whether N {\displaystyle N} is a prime power.[17] For prime powers, efficient classical factorization algorithms exist,[18] hence the rest of the quantum algorithm may assume that N {\displaystyle N} is not a prime power.If those easy cases do not produce a nontrivial factor of N {\displaystyle N}, the algorithm proceeds to handle the remaining case. We pick a random integer 2 ≤ a < N . {\displaystyle 2\leq a<N{.}} A possible nontrivial divisor of N {\displaystyle N} can be found by computing gcd ( a , N ) {\displaystyle \gcd(a,N)}, which can be done classically and efficiently using the Euclidean algorithm. If this produces a nontrivial factor (meaning gcd ( a , N ) ≠ 1 {\displaystyle \gcd(a,N)\neq 1}), the algorithm is finished, and the other nontrivial factor is N / gcd ( a , N ) {\displaystyle N/\gcd(a,N)}. If a nontrivial factor was not identified, then this means that N {\displaystyle N} and the choice of a {\displaystyle a} are coprime, so a {\displaystyle a} is contained in the multiplicative group of integers modulo N {\displaystyle N}, having a multiplicative inverse modulo N {\displaystyle N}. Thus, a {\displaystyle a} has a multiplicative order r {\displaystyle r} modulo N {\displaystyle N}, meaning a r ≡ 1 mod N , {\displaystyle a^{r}\equiv 1{\bmod {N}},}and r {\displaystyle r} is the smallest positive integer satisfying this congruence.
Frank Bridge The Hour Glasshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YGGEbSI_fo&list=RD6564Qff7OfQ&index=24
listen to George Lloyd's Symphony No. 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqBsMfn8fy8
now playingstart of R. Simpson: Symphony No. 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTxUwj37rRA&list=OLAK5uy_kkADOz9NlYbBWEdZAgNiOiBbVfUEdOKY8&index=2start of R. Simpson: Symphony No. 4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f4MRAdzUmY&list=OLAK5uy_kkADOz9NlYbBWEdZAgNiOiBbVfUEdOKY8&index=4https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kkADOz9NlYbBWEdZAgNiOiBbVfUEdOKY8First time listening to any of Robert Simpson's symphonies, no clue what to expect. Should be fun!
>>128506380he was better at writing about music than composing it.
>>128506414Yeah doesn't seem to be up my alley. Reminds me of Hindemith's orchestral stuff and I don't even like that! Oh well, maybe someone else will give it a try and end up liking it.
>>128506470>Hindemith's orchestral stuff >I don't even like that!harrumph
>>128506129good post
Two long-lost organ pieces written by a teenage Johann Sebastian Bach were unveiled in Germany on Monday, November 17, in a discovery described as a "great moment for the world of music." The two solo organ works, written while Bach was working as an organ teacher in the town of Arnstadt in Thuringia early in his career, first caught the attention of researchers over 30 years ago. But it is only now that experts have been able to prove they were written by Bach after finally confirming the identity of the person who penned the manuscripts.The Chaconne in D minor BWV 1178 and Chaconne in G minor BWV 1179 have been added to the official catalog of Bach's works as of Monday. They were also performed for the first time in 320 years at the St Thomas Church in Leipzig, where Bach is buried and served as a cantor for 27 years.Ton Koopman, the Dutch organist and head of the Bach Archive who performed the works on Monday, said they were "of a very high quality." "When one thinks of the young Bach or Mozart, it is often assumed that genius comes later in life – but that is not the case," he said. "I am convinced that organists worldwide will be very grateful for this virtuoso, lively new repertoire and will perform it regularly in future."From LeMonde
>>128506694only good news I've heard all month
>>128481027Are Dorico and Noteworthy the only good notation software? Newer versions of Sibelius have gotten very enshittified and Musescore is laggy cancer
>>128506808pen and paper, you limp-dicked failure
>>128506824My handwritten scores are unreadable chicken scratches so no can do
>>128506856Pathetic
Stop the neuroticism /classical/ and be joyful with mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwfZxOFcjcA&list=RDdwfZxOFcjcA&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL6OyfAz5pA&list=RDGL6OyfAz5pA&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RJ_4shanxo&list=RD7RJ_4shanxo&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Z_3EA9pyY&list=RDR7Z_3EA9pyY&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkDWJR4pNE&list=RDkLkDWJR4pNE&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZEtVbJT5c&list=RDIUZEtVbJT5c&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXBWrNN64z8&list=RDaXBWrNN64z8&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIU70B6K7Ls&list=RDRIU70B6K7Ls&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n8XdKkrqgo&list=RD3n8XdKkrqgo&start_radio=1Joie de vivre! la vie es belle!
>>128506872>>128506824Put your head in a microwave and slam it shut.
>>128507082Learn to write on actual paper, toddler
>>128507105Learn to make a good post, idiot.
>>128507113>goo goo gaa gaaaSorry, I don't speak underdeveloped
>>128507129Moron.
>>128507140Fine, I don't speak "Moron".
l have been greatly tempted to do Bach recording on the harpsichord", Gould told "David Johnson ; "it's much easier on the harpsichord - I think I could do it in one third the time per recording session. I don't think there would be nearly as many retakes for questions of character for the reason that the harpsichord does not have the variety of character in it that the piano does. The piano has so many things that can go wrong that in order to get those many things to go right, in terms of inner balances, one must be careful in a subtle way that just isn't demanded by the harpsichord. There are certain works which you can play marvelously at one tempo on the harpsichord and you cannot, by any means, attempt to approach that kind of tempo on the piano with any real success. People have the impression that the harpsichord doesn't accommodate itself to quick tempi as well as does the piano, which is made for blockbusting technicians who want to dash off Liszt etudes and things. But this isn't true in contrapuntal music, The piano is not an instrument for which I have any great love as such, I have played it all my life and it's the best vehicle I have to express my ideas because it's extremely convenient, It's the only instrument on which you can fairly suggest an orchestral effect, except, of course, the organ
>>128507154>>128507140
>>128507157>Gould said--
>>128507105>>128507113>>128507129>>128507140>>128507154This is the type of intelligent discussion that I come to 4chan.org for
>>128507189kill yourself today
>>128507072not enough romanticism:p
Should I get picrel? I found it for a really good price.
Classical fans may sound snobbish, but I'm getting sick of “world music.” It's like I've reached a formula: Fall of Troy clones, Chic clones, Dream Theater clones, Death clones, and any other trend-setting copycats. And don't even get me started on pop albums that are bloated as hell. Since I'm playing guitar casually, I plan to buy a keyboard later. I'm going to get into classical music.
>>128508651
>>128508651please consider suicide.
>>128507204>>128508798Seneca says that “All cruelty springs from weakness.”
>>128509007say that again when you're locked inside a cage with a tiger.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiL7XoADFEU
>>128483471>not listening to a work because of mmmuuhhh playlistI did listen to it, it's about randomly re-listening to it in a playlist with thousands of other tracks, I don't feel like I could justify stopping listening to anything else for one piece I'm not raving about for all of its 3 hours on a whim>letting computers dictate his taste? who do you think is putting the playlist together
>>128508498I mean he's probably the greatest living conductor, so if you're into physical releases, why not?
This album cover always makes me laugh because it's so low effort and cheap looking, it's like the DG executives knew it wasn't that good but since it's Barenboim they have no choice but to release it, so they just wanna get it over with
>>128510061Don Barenboim
>>128506808LilyPond
>>128510061Lol remove the DG label and it looks like like a poster you'd see outside a hole-in-the-wall lounge.
For me, it's Shostakovich's 10th String Quartethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tUpZotnAY
Starting my journey through early baroque. It doesn't sound like what I think of as baroque (Yngwie, McAlpine, Blackmore), it sounds like earlier music. I don't know what bugs me about it, but where does this musical tradition come from?
>>128510297what's known as the Baroque tradition began with the development of tonal harmony, figured bass notation, and orchestral music in 17th century Italy.
>>128506808Musescore is all you need. you just have a shit computer.
>>128510297>what I think of as baroque (Yngwie, McAlpine, Blackmore)kys
>>128506808Reaper
>>128510297>what I think of as baroque (Yngwie, McAlpine, Blackmore),Holy cringe
speaking of cringe...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbU0Y5l090o
>>128510297>what I think of as baroque (Yngwie, McAlpine, Blackmore)lmao
>>128510297Holy based
>>128510063>Signature look of Argentinian-Israeli-Palestinian-Spanish superiority
>>128511005>In 1966 I met the cellist Jacqueline du Pré in London. We felt immediately attracted to one another, both personally and musically, and two or three months later, we decided to get married. Without any influence on my part, Jacqueline took it upon herself to convert to Judaism. The thought of eventually having children played a role in her decision, as well as the fact that she knew many great musicians who were Jewish. Her conversion was not always a boon to her career; one read and heard that she had joined the “Jewish music mafia.” In June 1967 we got married in Jerusalem, shortly after the Six-Day War. Ben-Gurion, who did not think much of music, was present at our wedding. He was impressed that a non-Jewish, English girl could identify with his country so strongly.oh du pre, what we do out of lovehttps://danielbarenboim.com/60-years-daniel-barenboim-on-israel>I have not lived in Israel for many years now, and I am very conscious of my outsider’s perspective. Sometimes people ask me, “what is a Jew?” The answer is the following: a Jew who has anti-Semitic experiences in Berlin in 2008 is different from the Jew who had anti-Semitic experiences in 1940. The Jew of 1940 felt threatened; the Jew of today can think of his own land, of Israel. Today I can say, “either you learn to deal with me, you anti-Semite, or we go our separate ways, period.”mafioso don barenboim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puuSLfXrLfE
>>128511234I had to turn this off. Who is that English speaking guy who keep talking over him? Let him speak for Heaven's sake!
>>128510297Top kek, grade A bait. That being said, ages and eras are never true 100% cut off lines. In painted art, the renaissance is a well known point in a return to classisism, however there were already artists long before that point who were introducing naturalism and small aspects of classism. You would not expect something like pic related to have been born in the 13th century, before even so called "proto-renaissance". In an alternative world, "early rennaissance" could have just been called "late middle ages", its all narrative driven.Anyways, basically what I am saying is that the line of "early Baroque" could just as easily be called late renaissance. The world operates in gradients, our speech and minds operate in binaries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHljaODwKA8
>>128510473>development of tonal harmonyFunctional* harmony. Modal harmony is tonal and it existed during the renaissance.
now playingstart of Shostakovich: Piano Concerto No. 1 with Trumpet and Strings, Op. 35https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdC0zvXof_g&list=OLAK5uy_kUiX_y2cvUqdruOV-9qk8dzPfxEQ2OpA0&index=2start of Shostakovich: Piano Concerto No. 2 in F Major, Op. 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hX95y9GHYg&list=OLAK5uy_kUiX_y2cvUqdruOV-9qk8dzPfxEQ2OpA0&index=6start of Shostakovich: 24 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 87 (selected pieces)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBMvYsf1Zr4&list=OLAK5uy_kUiX_y2cvUqdruOV-9qk8dzPfxEQ2OpA0&index=8https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kUiX_y2cvUqdruOV-9qk8dzPfxEQ2OpA0>To mark the 50th anniversary of the composer's death, Andris Nelsons and the BSO conclude their award-winning, decade-long Shostakovich Project by presenting their acclaimed Shostakovich symphony cycle. Benefiting from the superb audio quality in the exceptional Boston Symphony Hall, Yuja Wang gives dynamic and expressive performances of his two contrasting piano concertos. The new album also features 6 solo piano pieces from Shostakovich's 24 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 87 & Op. 34.
finna travel back in time and make Bernstein record a complete Bruckner cycle (with Masses and Te Deum!) at gunpointhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVq6qDx5jtI
>>128510155>LaTeX for musicDo people really?
>>128506694https://www.youtube.com/live/vDGRpqDq-M4?si=ohZAOVIkLTAsLp8A
Eduard Franck's piano trios and sonatas are beautiful
>>128506694>I am convinced that organists worldwide will be very grateful for this virtuoso, lively new repertoire and will perform it regularly in future."Great, throw it in with the Gorillion other Bach pieces
>>128513846>Great, throw it in with the Gorillion other Bach piecesYes :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1z4JfxFb6c&list=RDb1z4JfxFb6c&start_radio=1
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>>128514513I have no idea what any of these symbols mean except the notes, I just posted it to summon krautschizo who hates schenkerian analysis lol
>>128514644>>128514513Ans I'd be interested to hear if you care to explain btw.
>>128514237>>128514513kill yourself immediately.>>128512226both tonal and modal harmony are functional. when people talk about tonal harmony they are referring to harmony confined to the major and harmonic minor modes (e.g. C-Ionian and A-aeolian with the G sharpened).
>>128514644kind of busy right now but I will return in the next thread.
>>128514703>both tonal and modal harmony are functional.No. Functional harmony implies the major/minor tonalities with the tonic and dominant (and others like secondary dominant, submediant etc.) harmonies, that "function".Tonal harmony implies something that has tonic, a home pitch. Renaissance music is tonal, but not functional. It is certainly not atonal, nor functional
Tonal means music where the pitches follow some kind of audibly discernable progression. Atonal means music where the pitches are more or less random or where whatever pattern they're following isn't discernable with the ear alone.
>>128514766V in C-Ionian is the IV in D-Dorian.
>>128514799Atonal simply means no home pitch, no tonic. Renaissance is tonal sincr it always uses home pitch of some mode>>128514807Yes but these chords don't function in renaissance music, they didn't write progressions like I-IV-V-I, and if they did, only by accident, that's why it's non-functional
>>128514853you are clearly retarded. please refrain from posting.
>>128514884>no rebuttalI accept your concession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlgoh3HeJ_w
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