“The Velvet Underground didn’t sell many records but they influenced more musicians than any other artists including The Beatles.” “Where’s the influence in ‘Yesterday’ or ‘Penny Lane’ ? Yet listen to ‘Waiting For The Man’. That guitar riff is everywhere.”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL4W_mo7G_U
>>128482883It's true. All the alt punk and indie stuff goes back to TVU. I'm not a Beatles hater like some autists here but their musical influence isn't as long lasting as TVU
It's funny because this is what the Nico poster would say
>>128482883this fag sucked both mick jagger & freddie mercurys dick. opinion discarded
>>128483062Are you 15 years old?
>>128483062He was an aggressive bi top. He even admits himself he bullied other guys into sex in his neighborhood growing up. The worst bully imaginable really.
Yesterday is the template for folk ballad, all over american country tooPenny Lane is peak landfill indie precursor.But what effort can you expect from that cocksucker fraud memewie.
>>128483096>>128483062>>128483107Go back to /b/
>>128483107>memewie
>>128483533Why quote me? He said some crazy shit in his 70s interviews. I'm just relaying it.
>>128482883>they influenced more musiciansAnd that's a bad thing
>>128482883i mean you can pick out individual vu songs like sunday morning, etc. that no working musicians really try to imitate in their acts now too.but beatles tunes like 'get back' seem to be just as much a template for what rock musicians are trying to sound like as the famous vu rockers.beatles just didn't do many band groove songs in their later years it seems and their early 50's derived band rock style is not just seen as outdated for them, but early stones (say pre-66) or animals style isn't really a template for modern rock bands either.
>>128483772>isn't really a template for modern rock bands either.there really arent any modern rock bands around anymore and even if they were we are so many decades removed for the 60s/70s that none of those obscure groups have any relevancy today.
>>128486711>removed for the 60s/70s that none of those obscure groups have any relevancy today.None of those that anon listed are remotely obscure. They were still influential just 5 years ago. And definitely 10. The only thing that changed is that the internet is flooded with streetshitters trying to act like white people and rig opinion.
>>128482883The Beatles' influence is that they completely changed the whole damn game forever by merely existing. Oh, some bands have copped your riff? That's cute.
I hate it when people cannot simply like something for what it is and have to act like it is superior from either a moral or historical standpoint when they have no reason to be taken seriously.
>>128482883I dunno about any of that but The Velvet Underground sure gets a lot of love down at the car wash
>>128483096Source? I thought the gay thing was a publicity stunt?t. my most embarrassing secret is I was a complete pervert as a small kid and used to force the weaker boys in my class to do kinky gay shit with me behind the trees at the edge of the playing field during recess, I was like 9 years old and autistic so was too young to realise I was doing anything wrong but it was bad enough I could 100% get canceled for it if I became famous/successful now ... idk whether to go back to my hometown and apologise to those guys or if it'd be worse of me to dredge it all up again for them now we're in our 30s
>>128487065You should go back and let them all rape you. Just as a bit. It's not gay or anything. Just the opposite.
>>128486750there are literally ZERO rock bands around today and certainly no contemporary ones formed in the last 25yrs. i would say phil anselmo is the most influential singer and pantera more influential than the velvet underground ever was since every metal band copied his way of singing and their sound for 30+yrs now
I thought pop music was built around the Beatles sound
>>128487133Black Midi
>>128486787Without Elvis and the Beatles there is no modern music. Lennon said before Elvis there was nothing
>>128487282Might be the only based thing that fag Lennon ever said
And Elvis always hated the Beatles because he thought they were the new and upcoming thing and that his act was passé
>>128487378Hard to imagine a real patriot hating a bunch of long haired hippies. Who would have thought.
>>128487423Elvis was a pretty religious guy too. I can't imagine he'd like much about the Beatles. Not denying he wasn't mad about them taking over but everything about them seemed to go against his beliefs.
beatles influenced britpop, power pop, pop rock, theatrical pop type stuff pretty significantly, and the general template of the rock band. TVU pioneered the alt rock template and blueprint
>>128487437There is a reason he probably had to play Vegas shows (which I don't think he wanted to do) later in his career and for his declining health
>>128487497No one on earth wants to play Vegas willingly
1996 was a different time then it is now. The bands that Bowie would cite as being influenced by the Velvet Underground like Nirvana, Kurt was still a big fan of the Beatles
>>128487533Nirvana was kind of an exception where both were huge influences. Nirvana did one of the best TVU covershttps://youtu.be/oYT4xLk5kTA
Bowie has to be one of the most overrated acts in music
>>128487676Performative anti-racism to try and atone for his short lived Fascist period in the late 70's.
>>128487790No one would care about Bowie if it wasn't for MTV unplugged
>>128487796Bongs would.
>>128482883>The Velvet Underground were great! I sucked lous' ding dong!bowie is a fucking joke. ever notice they always claim something stupid like this obscure group is the best ever and influenced everybody even though they never sold any records and nobody listens to them or likes their music even if they heard it accidently. i remember bowie claiming the screaming blue messiahs were a fantastic group. bowie sucked too many dicks in his time he isnt thinking clearly
>>128489033He isn't thinking at all, you moronic incel.
>>128482883Bowie hated Britain. That's why he moved to America and his favorite artists were iggy pop, trent reznor, lou reed, scott walker pretty much all americans He also declined OBE from the queen while that retard paul mccartney got a fucking knighthood
>>128489941Every bong rocker who "made it" moved to the USA like the Stones, John Lennon, Billy Idol, Rod Stewart, etc.
>>128489952Out of those you mentioned, only Billy Idol lives in americaRod and Mick jagger literally have a knighthoodThey fucking love Britain
>>128483072Cope>>128483533Cope
>>128490341>nothing to say but do I fit in yetKys
>>128489475>He isn't thinking at allhe is. hes actually trying to sound very intellectual in that interview actually. hes acting like he gave this subject real thought
>>128489941He was scared of Americans though
bowie is goat rock artist simple as
>>128487796>No one would care about Bowie if it wasn't for MTV unpluggednobody cared about him ever. his 70s output sucked. lets dance was ok i only liked Blue Jean. he was only popular for about 3 years during the 80s. then he released faggots dancing in the street with mick. never let me down flopped so he tried something different with tin machine which ended his commercial career
>>128494799"Fame" was a top 10 hit in '75 though.
>>128487796Nobody would have cared about anyone if it were not for the breakthrough
>>128494850Cuz John lennon was on it
>>128494658>bowie is goatGayest Of All Time
He's not much of a singer, now is he?
>>128494799https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie_discographyDoesn't correlate with how many of his albums made the top 10 on the charts.
How did The Velvet Underground get to where they did to begin with? Exactly, they were inspired by The Beatles
>>128496550Some albums are better than others, his voice on Let's Dance is decent but on other albums he sounds like garbage.
>>128496550well he's dead..
>>128496790heroes young americans station to station great vox performances
Extremely safe predictable opinion that exists almost entirely because of music critics and their distortion of music history through a lens of high school baggage. They were influential but not to this ridiculous extent that everyone pretends. This myth originated because of music critics having a hardon for NYC and being a bunch of dorks who could relate to Lou Reed.>>128487378Elvis is objectively far more influential than the beatles or tvu but it's considered problematic to say this so it has been erased from the historical record. Many such cases.
>>128493886He isn't thinking now. You're not very bright, are you?>>128494799Amazingly clueless take.
>>128496606>Harrison's introduction of Indian soundsMore a splash in the pan there
>>128497654You have to understand the original print runs for the VU were very small and back then the other way of getting those recordings was bootlegs, meaning meeting and exchanging illegal goods which is different from file sharing. The fact there was any influence at all was a big surprise and mostly due to a combination of the association with Andy Warhol and Lou Reeds solo career. Without those two legitimizing signals the Velvets would never be mentioned. Check out those two dorky songs on Nevermind the Bollocks Here are the Sex Pistols, on the second side of vinyl which is awful compared to the first half, and they are riffing on Lou Reed acting like its all still a cheeky secret when people should have known by then.
>>128497654>This myth originated because of music critics having a hardon for NYCthis is correct
>>128487133frank ocean is the most influential singer right now.
>>128497654>This myth originated because of music critics having a hardon for NYC and being a bunch of dorks who could relate to Lou Reed.This, Lou Reed was basically a veichle for neurotic New York critics to vicariously live out their rockstar fantasies
>>128498736i was thinking in terms of rock when i mentioned pantera. there are numerous singers/bands more influential/more copied than the velvet underground
>>128498736literally who
>>128498965frank ocean the goathttps://youtu.be/A8OkAchxu6Y
>>128496558gotta wonder how accurate that info really is. the first thing you see on bowies wiki page is something like bowie has sold at least 100 million records worldwide.
