https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJrsZb9TYJU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKOlAtZUSE

any way to get decapitator?

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>emulation is emulation

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Reminder, everyone!

AI Gave me the craziest jump up idea ever

bmp

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What can I add as a hook to this?

https://voca.ro/16BgJ0w1swKy

Chase & Status like DnB project, shame i can't find good vocals but the lyrics are pretty cool

Needs work but that's the very rough idea for now
Not a fan of the two notes that play, need a new sound
Also i can't for the life of me get dnb drums right

Thoughts?

https://voca.ro/16YA4L9CigwT

Let me know what you think, this is the second version of my first ever track. I just installed Ableton last weekend. It's all with stock plugins. In this version, I used control envelopes, but not too much, mostly just to control the volume. It's trance.
https://voca.ro/15nqQUK5Vv5t

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>>128607921
is this better
https://vocaroo.com/1g75KiC4apeK

>>128609174
rut racker has soundtoys

>>128611029
>Also i can't for the life of me get dnb drums right
That's bullshit and you know it.
Great WIP.

>>128611399
Better than my first ever track. Question: did you make this on laptop speakers? Not that it sounds bad on my monitors, I just think that droning bass doesn't feel right. You should try a reese bass instead.

>>128612876
Thanks. I made it on a laptop, but I do wear decent headphones. I compressed it for the upload, maybe that's the issue? I can try other sounds.

>>128612876
>droning bass doesn't feel right
Also, do you mean the one that's kind of droning in the background that starts at 0:15? If so, that was something I recently added, I can keep working on that. Sometimes it does sound wrong I guess.

Arturia _V Collection 11 Pro + Midi Controller or Donner L1 + KB-32M? I already have a minifreak so I get a good amount off the V collection. Looking to make mostly industrial and ambient music.

>>128613330
versatility is more important for those styles imo so

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>go to rutracker for 1 (one) plugin
>it's a bundle of like 80

>>128613330
I also have a minilogue XD, MPC one, and Drumbrute Impact. My brain's dick wants to keep to the dawless vibe but it is an insanely good deal on the Arturia Collection right now.

My boyfriend wants to make trip-hop, what should I get him for Christmas?

corpstepwave
>start off with metal/rock/noise/jazz/whatever
>record scratch
>blend of ukulele+whistling, materialistic hip hop rap lyrics, easy listening elevator music

>>128613584
gecs already did it post ironically years ago.
… minus the easy listening and jazz afaik.
it wouldn’t surprise me if some soundcloud randoms threw that into the mix though

>>128613584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiP0FpY88E4

>>128610944
Cmonnnnnn

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>>128610944
rly wanna help, but I don't even know what a hook is.
>>128611029
sick, big fan of the vocals
>>128612697
i prefer this one. also your track reminds of me of Logic older mixtapes

>>128614148
It’s okay, you tried

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVLa2igi-Jk
6:45
see, this validates even my kinda fringe opinion about not liking acoustic guitar (the stereotypical overuse in emotional male singer-songwriter music, like an amateur who plays while sitting at a camp fire). most normies and anons don't seem to have a strong opinion about the acoustic guitar sound or they say they like it but i'm ahead of the curve.

>>128615137
also at 18:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-mY6hFX7WI

>>128613462
Bose ultra comfort headphones

>>128613462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eYpMs4tIc

Anyone tried the Defenestrator 647F Felching unit?

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>cleaning tracks and separating them before the fun part applying effects
Hopefully by Sunday the tracks will be ready for mixing & effects.

>>128616336
make sure to print and re clean after applying the effects though

>>128616593
Put the tracks through tape and recheck EQ and comp?

>>128612876
>That's bullshit and you know it.
>Great WIP.
Thanks Anon, but i meant mixingwise i guess?
Although the kick really needs more oomph to it imo
>>128614148
>sick, big fan of the vocals
Cheers!

i boughted a sample pack for 21 buks

>>128610944
I see the potential. Here's some ideas for improvement:
https://vocaroo.com/1mM3V4XeuRwv

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>>128617009
What type of samples? Synth sounds?

>>128617009
I've only ever bought 2 sample packs and I regretted them both. I pirated 2 more and also regretted that. Fuck sample packs.

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https://vocaroo.com/1jFkAAjRg5Z2

is this too goofy or should i record it properly in a studio?

>>128619288
very goofy, shitty and low energy, but yes, you should record it in a studio.

>>128619117
I have 4 preset packs in my basket for 20 but I am hesitating. I will look them up for free.

>>128616798
physical tape is surprisingly accessible to get into even though shitters talk about reel to reel like it's some exotic unobtanium. it's also underrated because tutorialfags try to show the sound using unconvincing emulation plugins so you don't easily get what the point of it is. you don't need a top of the line studer or nagra just to get started. ITB fags might be put off by noise levels or blunted transients but they're missing the point that music shouldn't be too sterile, and exaggerated transients might be impressive to some people at first but you might want a smoother sound that flows more naturally. historical hit records and even some modern ones were recorded with analog tape. some top tier artists like the beatles and ABBA famously used tape speed effects as a creative tool.

HOW does anyone NOT have "perfect pitch,"
everyone knows how to sing the happy birthday song and start it on the right note.
and realize it's the same first note of the star wars theme.
just from remembering what they sound like in your head.

Then it's just a matter of knowing the letter/name of the note

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>>128619690
>Just be rich you fucking scum, it's easy, what's wrong with you?

>>128619690
some people say it's still relative pitch when you compare to a memorized sound. it should be like seeing a color and knowing what it is without thinking about it. i think some skepticism is warranted though like maybe you have perfect pitch or the capacity to learn it but you just didn't grow up with music lessons so you don't know what a G# is but after you heard enough examples you might recognize a G# or even sing it.

>>128618814
presets, drums, synths
>>128619117
i couldn't find the pack so i boughted

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>>128620278
>i couldn't find the pack so i boughted
well, at least make us a quick track with your spoils, let's hear why you wanted it so bad

Oh sweet ANOTHER new Carte Blanche remix

bampino

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>started curing my lead sound
>playbacked it with the other tracks on
>started to cut through cleanly and nicely
It was a good mix day.
>>128622079
Yee buddy.

Are there any good fretless bass VSTs?

So am I retarded (likely yes) but humour my question?

I'm dealing with stereo width and stereo phasing, mainly trying to make something stereo, nice and wide, but also mono compatable so shit doesnt disappear when summed to mono.

So I'm using Xfer Dimension Expander on everything I want wide in the mix as a send. (Essentially the exact same dimension expander used in Serum)
How it works, as far as I understand, is that it sends multiple instances of delays to left/right to create with, but the delays are also out of phase with each other so in Mono, they disappear without affecting the main mono sound.

After the Dimension expander on the send, I have an EQ that strips out everything mono and leaves the stereo L/R, that way I can adjust how much L/R I want to blend in with the mono signal.

Is this retarded? It sounds like it works, when I sum to mono, everything sounds as it should.

>>128623753
Did you try MODO BASS 2 ?

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Who likes crack plugins?

>>128613330
I got scared and confused at the music store and bought a Liven Evoke and a Zoom H4N. See you guys in the vocaroos.

>>128619553
Why not just get something like Neve 542 if you want a tape flavour in a hardware form? Working with a real R2R is a pain in the ass and you can't deny it.

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https://vocaroo.com/1hC3sBIP765v
Thoughts?

>>128626588
pretty dope, and there's a lot you can do to it to break the monotony. chop, add effects on of bars, ..., and bounce anything worthy of keeping
ex: https://vocaroo.com/1jQuSlyPDjhb

>>128626588
Those hats are way to busy and lack any groove and feel to em. Maybe turn em down a few notches.

And if you're going to have your bass in the low 30's, use an 808 with some upper harmonics or nobody is going to hear your bass other than people with headphones or right in front of a sub

But otherwise, pretty cool.

I made you some
https://vocaroo.com/1eM6NiMsb8gL
C1 is the note btw.

>>128626844
That's actually pretty cool anon. Thanks for the tip!
>>128626995
Thanks for that! Yeah, I felt like I needed to work on the hihats as well

>>128619471
yeah after sleeping on it everything before 0:40 sucks hard
not wasting studio time on this until i fix the first half and the ending

>>128624553
If it sounds good and mono compatible you're ok. Does it sound better without the eq, it might

https://vocaroo.com/1l0sgrHIepaX

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A high pass of about 150hz clears up the muddiness in the kick

How to fucking hear compression? What should I expect from that? Yeah, I know all that bullshit about making the louder parts quieter but how does this change my perception of sound? I was doing that Dr. Comp ear training from gymtone but I was absolutely filtered by getting wrong all those questions. Is compression even real? I mean, seriously, isn't it just a joke you all are making for gatekeeping beginners producers?

>>128631749
>hp
>kick
shiggy

>>128632511
open compressor maybe? haven't tried it yet

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>>128632511
You're supposed to see it, not hear it. If you can hear it, you did something very wrong (or right, depending on the song).

>>128632511
comp helps tremendously with mixing and making things sound more cohesive.
maybe get used to doing sidechain compression more often and you'll develop an intuition of what you can do with compression in general. https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764434853416033.mp4

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anybody like vocaloid? I'm trying to replicate MF doom but i bloody have so much trouble getting it all done today do i cave and do RVC

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https://vocaroo.com/1b1x39Fi5IeW

is it a bop?

>>128631721
i like the drive to it, its got a good progressive house feel to it, especially once the side of the kick comes in @1:00. Its fairly hypnotic. That being said, i do think your low end needs work, it feels muddy, especially on the sub side, where that should be pushing your track forward. Also look to see if you can add a top to the kick too, it needs a bit of transient to make it shine through.

>>128626588
I agree with >>128626995 on the hats, its a bit too much and too harsh. The synths are great and feel incredibly wavy, but the drum top end just takes away from that feeling (if that makes sense)

>>128619288
feels wholesome, i dig it. Honestly i like the bedroom production feel to it... in a studio, it'd feel way too polished

>>128612697
it feels out of tune, which sucks cause its a vibe otherwise. Check the sub, cause something is off. @1:08 to 1:18 is fine though, so do that everywhere else
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>128611399
pretty good for stock and a first song. i vibed with it! Definitely focus on the low end and cutting out mud from things that don't need to be low. Also side chain your bass to your kick or do a 4/4 envelope to duck it and give it some motion. Nice job overall.

>>128611029
im a big bass and i fuck with this. Maybe throw trash2 with saturation only on the deepened vocals to really pull out the grit. Also your low end needs a bit of work, if you're gonna go for wide reese, go balls in. I wanna feel it wrapped around my ears.

>>128631749
red /mu/...

i wish i could make music this good
https://youtu.be/pYqvhlZC6_c

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>>128632511
mwahahaha, it's gatekeeping but not because it isn't real. you need some high quality hardware compressors to have a real chance going up against the big boys. even within different revisions of the 1176, poorfag clones like from klark or lindell would typically be based on a later revision without the class A amplification stages. there is also the character from the transformers and such. the modern production universal audio 1176LN is based on the most popular revision so they can justify charging $3000 for just a single channel of compression. see pic related, even justice who was considered to have a humble home studio for their time, had two 1176. now amateurs are trying to succeed with mostly just plugin emulations. KEK

but tiktok zoomers are aware of tube-tech CL1B and such
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQtXS3KDCEk

Do you think chuzo could make it if he put in any IRL effort to actually produce? I want to believe so.

>>128635530
Thanks, you got me to learn how to do sidechaining, which I was putting off, and I think it's worth it. Sounds more interesting now

>>128636709
unironically no, for multiple reasons.

>being "good" at learning a skill involves being able to identify what is and isn't important, and how to parse information (which he has demonstrated he is terrible at).
>artistry requires refined taste (being able to tell what music is actually good, what connects and why), and (arguably) passion or genuine interest- he openly disdains things for arbitrary reasons, has promoted music which he failed to identify as AI, and is generally close minded in what he considers "good"

and probably some other obvious reasons but i'm tired of typing.
even if he overcame those shortcomings and became *technically* adequate his shitty personality would put anybody off from wanting to work with him.

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Ambient ideas with ableton and budget hardware

https://youtu.be/2IQMIt3yRsY?si=24AbSBMtHlM7IcmR

ahh yeah woo yeah ahh yeah woo yeah ahhh yeah type growly bass xd xd

https://vocaroo.com/1ouwKKbAIRUy

>>128638371
GAOGAO

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>>128632511
>Is compression even real? I mean, seriously, isn't it just a joke you all are making for gatekeeping beginners producers?

Lets put it to the test.

https://vocaroo.com/12kbzD5jIOZu

Which one of these three identical loops sounds most compressed to you?
1. 2 or 3?
And it isnt a trick question, one is aggressively more compressed than the other two.

>>128638371
>https://vocaroo.com/1ouwKKbAIRUy
YO SKRILL DROP IT HARD

>>128632511
make sure you dont have some gay ass volum normalization effect on in your OS, that migh be masking it for you.

>>128638724
NTA but I wanna play too.
2>1>3 most compressed to least.

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>>128638724
1>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2

>>128639312
I'll hold on the answer for a couple of hours if anyone else wants to chime in.

The award if correct is a marvelous "I Can Tell When Shits Compressed" diploma that you can hang on your wall or in your studio to impress your friends or clients.

>>128639413
okay maybe just an hour, it's getting a bit late over here.

>>128638724
2>1>3
but I feel like 1 and 3 have very similar parameters but 3 has a lower Make-Up

>>128639406

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>>128636558
https://archive.org/details/lyberry-vengeance-archive

Download Vengeance Essential Clubsounds Vol.1, 2, 3, 4 & 5
It's all 140 bpm, trance related drumloops, basses, synthshots, effects, sweeps. All the shit you need to make that which you want, minus softsynths and musicality. I cant help you with the latter.

>>128626844
>>128626995
>>128635320
I took yalls advice and what do you think now? I made the hihats less busy, but I still think they need some variation once and awhile.
https://vocaroo.com/1a8d4q0KSije

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>>128639312
>>128639746
You two are correct. Nr 2 is indeed the compressed one.

1 and 3 are identical only that nr 3 is has the gain reduced.
I award you your diplomas. Congratulations!

>>128639406
Sorry, it seems you have conflated compression with volume. You've failed this class.

any producers want to help me bring back memphis rap (gonna be the new wave)

https://voca.ro/15yJMPqKJwUP

this is what I've got so far I think there's potential lowkey

>>128640228
this is the most hilarious outcome because you used a shitty compressor and sucked the life out of it. in this application you would typically want to add loudness (even if the peaks are normalized), punchiness, beefiness, bigness, not flatten the sound.

I cant figure out how to make a simple lofi beat for my youtube videos to save my life they just all sound so bad and wouldnt fit in the background of any video. I tried to ask chatgpt for help but it sounded even worse with ai advice

>>128640236
>bring back memphis rap
bro hasn't been online in 15 years lmao

>>128640272
>chuzo backpedaling to shit talk the class when confronted with the fact that he can't watch youtube 40 hours a week and suddenly have trained ears
KEK

>>128640297
the drum loop was probably processed to begin with, not that he recorded acoustic drums himself

>>128640310
>irrelevant excuse
lol

>>128640297
time is cyclical u just don't see the vision

>>128640337
any decent drum sample pack or whatever already has tasteful compression does for convenient use, even for something like an 808 where a skillful producer might actually want unprocessed samples so they can apply their own processing, they're typically processed to sound more impressive and make them easier to use for newfags. he took already tastefully compressed drums and ruined them with low quality compression.

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>>128640272
Again, you're conflating volume with compression. Compression isnt a automatic "make shit sound good" plugin. Then you dont know what compression is.

>>128640348
it came and went already anon you're just going to sound like every other dork who's just now discovering soundcloud rap 10 years after it peaked

>>128640377
you're retarded, you didn't make the loop sound better, a hardware compressor makes it sound better almost automatically whereas your plugins fucking suck ass no matter what you do with them

>>128640310
It was a TR707 kick, a TR707 snare and a unprocessed hi hat loop.

>>128640404
you made it sound worse anyway with a shitty plugin

>>128640370
every other anon with even a few months under their belt can easily tell the difference when something is MORE compressed and that you don't know what you're talking about.
face facts and stop burying your head in the sand.

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>>128640391
holy fucking shit the cope
stop using OTT on everything and use a fucking compressor for once.

I HATE MY MUSIC im such a soulless hack

>>128640421
you are categorically doomed to fail, you can't just slap a compression plugin on a track and call it a day. your music objectively sucks, you have no natural talent in telling what sounds good. it was my initial thought that the flatter sounding part was the compressed part, but i was more optimistic that anon wouldn't use such a god awful compressor plugin.

>>128640432
he'd probably have trouble even knowing what ott sounds like lmao

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>>128640444
>i'm not wrong i'm talented and everybody else is is bad actuallyy!!!!

>>128640467
any $2000+ hardware compressor demo on youtube sounds infinitely more impressive than your drum loop vocaroo

>>128640443
I hate myself; I'm a soulless sack.

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>>128640479
>still cant fathom that compression is used to control dynamic range, not to make shit automatically sound good

>>128640479
and yet somehow you couldn't even tell the "bad" compression apart lmao

>>128611029
DO NOT release the track with those vocals it says baddadan like 5 times lmao

>>128640512
1 sounded better because it was louder, a good compressor makes it sound louder even with normalized peaks. anon didn't normalize the peaks, even made 3 quieter with no other change, it was literally a scam.

>>128640509
your music literally sucks, you don't even understand that it's supposed to sound good

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>>128640522
>1 sounded better because it was louder

>>128640522
>a good compressor makes it sound louder even with normalized peaks
you cannot be serious lol

>>128640228
Very nice, thanks for the diploma, buuuut...
>it isnt a trick question
It was a bit of a trick question if you didn't print them all at the same peak level.

>>128640566
YOU cannot be serious, you're like a defiant toddler, you will literally never make good music in your entire life, what the fuck is wrong with you

>>128640570
>It was a bit of a trick question if you didn't print them all at the same peak level.
if the one thing you're listening for is percieved loudness, then you're listening for the wrong thing.

>>128640391
Actual retard. You don't even have any decent hardware compressors, I can tell.

>>128640579
this entire exchange is just more evidence for you having never even opened your daw at this point.
if you had ever even touched a compressor you'd realize how ridiculous you sound

>>128640608
>>128640618
>>128640626
KILL YOURSELF
it's implied to use normalized peaks or normalized volume to make it a fair compairson. the compressed example doesn't sound good, it's not usable in a professional production. typically the goal with drums is to make them punchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQGQnzcXS4c
effortless louder sound by using hardware vs the ITB mix

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>>128640647
Oh fucking hell he's still going

>>128640647
>normalized peaks
>normalized volume

chuzo still hasn't even learned about perceived volume lol

>>128640608
Percieved loudness =/= DBFS peak and that's one of the main points of compression (and saturation / distorion for that matter). Don't know what your point here is, but these kind of tests, if you want to do the correctly, require normalizing to the same peak level.

compression acts like a soft clipper, although not just as a waveshaper when considering attack/release controls. thus making it louder when the make up gain is adjusted to match the peak level. this is objectively correct and anons are delusional amateurs.

>>128640687
try matching peaks on different settings right now in your daw and see what happens so you can fuck off already

>>128640682
Again. If the only thing you're listening for in regards with compression is increased percieved loudness, then you dont know what compression is or what it sounds like. All you know is that it makes shit sound louder because like a fucking retard you have autogain enabled. You might as well smash everything into a clipper and call it a day if all you care about is making shit louder.

>>128640716
vocaroo has potato quality, and your compressed example doesn't sound good. you said it was not a trick question but it clearly was when you're fucking around with the volume. it's a bad faith trick question.

>>128640716
Compression is automated volume control towards an average level.
Simple as

>>128640741
your entire life is bad faith

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>>128640741

>>128640715
i can literally run a signal through high end vintage transformers with nothing else and it acts as a make shit sound much better and louder, it's even much impressive than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz4-Vxla7CU

>>128640761
then there would be no point in buying $10k mastering compressors. you think you can get the same results with plugins. you're living a lie.

>>128640792
>then there would be no point in buying $10k mastering compressors.
you're right

>>128640808
literally delusional, no point in arguing further with overgrown toddlers

>>128640716
Sorry, bucko, but you're the retard here. Compression doesn't even have to necessarily increase the percieved loudness. Taking that drum loop as an example, if you set the attack slow and release in a way that it bounces back before the next hit, the emphasis of the transient will actually make the peak stay the same, but the overall percieved loudness seem lower. The point is, for the last time, if you want to make a sensible test like that, bounce all the fucking tracks at the same DBFS. All the gear manufacturers know to do that so please stop arguing.

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>>128640810

>>128640828
> Taking that drum loop as an example, if you set the attack slow and release in a way that it bounces back before the next hit, the emphasis of the transient will actually make the peak stay the same, but the overall percieved loudness seem lower.
So listen for that, not the overall volume
sorry that you're bias came and bit you in the ass because you've worked under the assumption that compression=louder for too many years

>>128640057
Thanks
And damn, my hard drive doesn't have space...

>>128640869
>sorry that you're bias came and bit you in the ass because you've worked under the assumption that compression=louder for too many years
Either you're baiting at this point or you're actually retarded. I specifically explained that compressing may in fact decrease the perceived volume with certain settings. I'm done giving away free knowledge to a pigheaded faggot who can't admit a mistake. Thanks for the diploma and good night.

>>128640907
you dont have to download all 28 gigs of it, only the 5 packs I mentioned, which is about 5 gigs.
Click the arrow down next to the 7Z on the right under download options and you can download induvidual packs.

what are the good vengeance packs though?

i pretty much only use essential clubsounds vol 3 desu

put it this way: you could start with any recording that sounds like flat, boring, dull whether or not it has already been compressed. you could start with anon's plugin-compressed #2. you could run it through a high end compressor, set a slow attack and increase the make-up gain to emphasize the transients, to make it sound more like #1. a compressor properly used is a versatile transient-shaping tool. you could make it sound big, punchy and loud even without increasing the peak level which is what the professionals are doing like how people like mixbustv, colt capperrune and audio animals demonstrate on youtube. by taking a decent sound from a TR707 and making it sound worse with a compressor plugin, you're like shitting your pants and using it as a gotcha. it's technically compressed, but it doesn't sound good and it's not very usable for professional music production.

i was anticipating some gotcha either way because my initial thought was that #2 was compressed because it sounded more flat, but it would be funny as a flex if anon had a hardware compressor so that he could start with #2 and make it sound louder and punchier.

>>128640937
I dont know what you want man. The example I presented was waaaay overdone for effect that one have to be deaf to miss it. I mean, any fucking asswhipe that's spent more than a year behind a daw should know the charecteristics of heavily compressed sound, especially on a barebones drumloop like that, to the degree that not normalizing everything to the same average dbfs shouldnt throw anyone off.
I even made the loop such that the hi-hat would come in slightly before the kick just so the compression would have an exagerated effect on the transient, making it stand out.
I cant help that the other guy sperged the fuck out because he cant tell the difference between compression and making shit louder.
But whatever, I'm done with this shit now. Have a good one.

>>128641101
see >>128641064 >>128641095
it's embarrassing for you that you would choose to use a bad-sounding compressor plugin. if it's not meant to be a trick question they should have been peak-normalized and one should be uncompressed or very lightly compressed, one should be medium and one should be overcompressed. instead you did some trickery with the two uncompressed at different volume and the awful overcompressed.

>>128640944
Ah right thanks
I shouldn't have punched my laptop and broke one of the hard drives lol

>>128641132
Nah, fuck off. If you cant tell one overly compressed sound from one that isnt just because they arent volume matched, you dont know what the fuck you're doing. It's like arguing that you cant tell if you're pissing yourself or being pissed on because you're blindfolded.

>>128641208
you're the one who thinks plugins are fine because you can't tell that hardware compressors sound much better lmfao

>>128641226
You think you can buy your way to good mixing
good luck with that

>>128641254
>>128641208
>>128609203

>>128641254
Human use of tools began over 2 million years ago and has been fundamental to our evolution and survival, enabling activities like hunting, gathering, defense, and building. Early tools, made from materials like stone, bone, and wood, were used for basic tasks, but toolmaking evolved with the discovery of metals and the harnessing of energy sources, leading to increasingly complex technologies. Tool use is a key part of the human behavioral repertoire, allowing us to extend control over our environment and influencing our biology through activities like toolmaking, which may have driven the evolution of our brains and hands.

i respond to chuzo with nonsense when i’m bored and i don’t even read his replies when im typing them lol

you're not entitled to making hundreds of millions of dollars, especially not some random kid with a computer unless they find some once in a lifetime opportunity like being able to hack into a whale's crypto wallet or something. most of the top tier culturally relevant artists have access to large organizations of various professionals, the physical studios and of course the hardware. most plugins are just trying to clone the sound of old hardware (and not doing a great job at it), not even innovating all that much.

>>128641461
>being this butthurt you can’t hear compression
cope

>>128641542
dont rile him up again
he doesnt make music
he just daydreams about making music and schizoposts about it online
leave him be
his delusions is all he has

>>128641542
see >>128641095
it's just embarrassing for anon that he resorted to volume trickery even after he stated that it's not a trick question, and he used a very bad sounding compressor plugin. just because it's compression doesn't mean it qualifies as musical compression that's usable in a hit song.

Why am I not a musical genius.. I love music so much why wasn’t I born with amazing skills

>>128641663
>born with amazing skills
>born with
check yourself before you wreck yourself

>>128641574
seethe

>>128641702
there's a definite genetic component, you wouldn't expect a literal down syndrome tard to beat mike tyson or whatever

>>128641727
It's kind of annoying when midwits compare musical know how to objective fields like "who is stronger" and irl someone compared it to nuclear science. It isn't that serious, and like I said there isn't an objective nature to it so just watch some tutorials and have fun.

>>128641759
you're denying the role of technology in production and mixing of all things. it's common knowledge that there's "studio magic" and most normal people aren't delusional enough to try to become an artist without having some connection with a producer or a label or whatever. even if you purely want to do songwriting and such, people like bach, mozart and beethoven are generally considered to be clear geniuses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCs_2H_fx90
>plugin cucks do a couple of db of compression before it goes to shit
>hardware chads casually doing 10-20db of compression
meanwhile anons continue to be in denial

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>ear infection finally cleared up
>can hear shit above 15khz again and my ears arent bugging out with tinnitus every 5 minutes
fucking hell why didnt anyone tell me they made specalized ear sprays for this kind of shit

>>128641663
such a pathetic post, you have one life and you want to make music. what else are you going to do? kill yourself????

>>128641781
Well then just don't even bother and and leave the thread I dunno what else to tell ya man. We really don't need /r9k/ tier posts in a criticism and feedback thread

>>128642015
he thrives on the attention
ignore him

>>128642015
>irl someone compared it to nuclear science
they have the right idea, if you want to make music that's actually great and likely to become culturally relevant, music that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, that's some extreme outlier shit like being lewis hamilton or something like that

mix check pls. no vocals yet as waiting on friend. built drumbeat and played fender jazz bass and les paul standard di through ssl2 interface. mixed itb with studio one. mixing in headphones so have no sense of the low end.

https://vocaroo.com/16vOhPiQhdcL

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https://youtube.com/shorts/jMZgFnOIn0E
https://youtube.com/shorts/jMZgFnOIn0E

>>128636709
*After the recent developments around compression, I'm not so sure anymore, guys...

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It's fucking over.

>>128643664
anons are actually retarded
>it's just reverb, it doesn't need to sound good
>it's just compression, it doesn't need to sound good
>it's not that serious
just cope after cope and not anything that leads to actually making good music

>>128642708
The low end needs a little tweaking, a bit heavy for something this upbeat. Just a low shelf at 80hz, drop the shelf 3-4 db just to lighten up of the sluggy lowend

It sounds very smoshed and compressed to my ear, like theres no air or anything has room to breathe. If you compress the drums, you can get away with doing very little to the guitar and bass and make it still sound lively.

>While the TR-707 is a primarily digital device, it still employs some analog circuitry like envelopes and amplifiers.
the original loop sounds decent even through the dogshit vocaroo compression, and anon completely ruined it to a sterile 2d sound with the shitty plugin compressor

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>>128645341

>>128645356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMbCoqSg18M
he makes the drums sound punchier, that's how it's supposed to be, not suck the life out of it call it a day

got to agree that it was a big tricky with the make-up gain reduced on the third one but it's possible to tell.

see >>128639746

>>128645430
see >>128641095
i already knew, it was just hilarious that anon essentially shit his pants by using a very poor quality compressor which isn't impressive at all

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>>128645387
>you

>>128632511
>>128638724
>>128639312
>>128639746
>>128640272
>>128640297
>>128640391
>>128640509
>>128640522
>>128640828
It ended up you all proved my point on how absolutely confused and gatekeeper is to understand compressor.

>>128645582
>retard doesnt understand compression because he believes compression=louder

>>128645603
that's literally how compression is used in a music production and mixing context by all the pros including max martin who's famous for his songwriting but he's also a producer who uses analog gear to make things sound "bigger". downward compression technically "pushes down" and makes the peaks quieter but the make up gain is adjusted to bring everything up. parallel or upward compression makes the quiet parts louder.

>>128645650
The two other anons managed to identify the compressed loop, one of them even managed to hear that the two other loops were indentical, just not at the same output level. You just heard "OH THIS ONES LOUDER THAT MEANS ITS THE MOST COMPRESSED" and picked the wrong one like a literal mouthbreather shit eating retard.

>>128645650
>>128639746 (You)

I mean I was right

>>128645673
anon stated it's not a trick question, i still noticed correctly that it's a trick question or a flawed test. you're just doing insane mental gymnastics to feel better about yourself. none of this will help you make good music.

TR-707 already sounds decent like how you want drums to sound in a song, it's not the same as taking a raw acoustic recording. to then flatten them with a plugin compressor just isn't impressive at all. you can get the opposite effect of making a flat recording sound thick and big with a hardware compressor.

>>128645308
>just cope after cope and not anything that leads to actually making good music
Nice. Chuzo in a nutshell. Very well said.

i wonder what else chuzo can't hear lmao

>>128645387
$2000 per rack buddy.

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audio slicer and shuffler, down below the source code if you want to run it, customize it with the help gpts, or make it an executable.
hats: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764522590264205.mp4
impacts: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764522652743687.mp4
basses: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764522716219381.mp4
synths: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764522797520583.mp4
source code: https://pastebin.com/yANwjbkD

>>128646075
he doesnt even have a daw, he just shitposts in these threads and larps as a producer

>>128646002
>>128646075
several anons admitted to not hearing compression, also keep denying the usefulness of analog gear. you're delusional if you would use that plugin compressor in a real song even if you back off the setting it just ruins the already tastefully compressed sound of the TR-707.

>>128646543
Interesting tool, thanks.

>>128646543
Did you code it?

>>128646768
>also keep denying the usefulness of analog gear.
Nobody is denying the usefulness of analog gear, you need to know how to use it though. I'd outmix you with the software plugins on my laptop vs you and a million dollar studio you rent with you behind the controls because you know fuckall.

>several anons admitted to not hearing compression
You were the ONLY one who picked wrong. No amount of cope is going to change that.

>>128646831
i'm not the frog poster lmfao, fucking retard. also >>128640808 is in line with what anons have been spamming forever, even you think you can do well with plugins (at least compared to me), you're just saying you're not denying the usefulness of analog gear without understanding what you're saying, you haven't been motivated to research analog gear or even plugin emulations until very recently you suddenly want to hear compression and questioning if people are just pretending

anons have been making a mockery of the whole thing like saying "anal log warmth", outright denying that it's a thing, that it can't be heard in a blind test (but i heard that the TR-707 drum sounded better before it was ruined by the plugin compressor, lmfao), or saying that plugins sound equally as good

>>128646870
>>128646895
holy fucking shit now he's pretending to be two different anons just to bolster his own bullshit cope

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>>128646811
yw anon
>>128646830
nope, just prompted it. i haven't programmed in ages, pretty much since gpts inception. im a lazybum

>>128646926
YOU are bullshitting, you're literally retarded and too retarded to see how thoroughly in the wrong you are, you have no million dollar song to prove me wrong, you have literally nothing going for you, you're like some delusional ADHD manchild who draws shitty furry porn or makes some castlevania 2d pixel video game clone

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>>128646949
Have you ever opened a daw in your entire life?

>>128646938
> just prompted it
It's ok for tiny project like this, should not waste time on such thing when the idea is so simple.
I started using chat gpt to create a particular granular synth but I realized it was too ambitious to be solely prompted/vibe coded.

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>>128646543
this is really cool anon

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>>128643824
It is just the beginning.

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>>128647491
>get open backs 2 months ago for the first time for home use, games, prod, movies
>incredible
>can never go back
Feels good.

>>128646949
>YOU are bullshitting, you're literally retarded and too retarded to see how thoroughly in the wrong you are, you have no million dollar song to prove me wrong, you have literally nothing going for you, you're like some delusional ADHD manchild who draws shitty furry porn or makes some castlevania 2d pixel video game clone
What the entire thread thinks of you. Once again: very well said. But I must admit, I feel bad for those who blame other people for their own shortcomings. You do more than that: you accuse them of what you're guilty of.

>>128648078
How do they work with ambient noise? Like right now, I'm running my clothes drier. My regular closed back headphones (not noise cancelling) do a decent job of muffling that

>>128645323

how's this anon? turned up overall level as well and it is compressed but keep in mind vocaroo as well


https://vocaroo.com/1m2zZiKiRA8S

https://vocaroo.com/1826HxRtu6Ih

>>128650328
i'm waiting for a japanese girl to start mumbling some nonsense

>>128650145
Sounds better balanced now.
The kick still needs some work, it's pretty low end heavy and fights alot with your bass. I would try to EQ out a bit out of it around 45hz and maybe give it a bump around 80hz to give it more punch and less boom. If you're using some kind of kit with swappable elements, maybe switch it out with something more punchy that has a bit more body to it. Will probably help with your dynamic range as the kick is what making the whole track pump in the limiter. You can also lift the top end above 7-8khz as it sounds a little muffled.

The solo guitar is a bit loud in the mix, just pull it down few db and it will sit in the mix alot better.

>>128650361
noted, gave everything
https://vocaroo.com/1o45hO96nP4y

You can't hear compression but you can listen to it, at least I've found

>>128650765
have i gone too far now? kick was multiple layered samples, took one out and did some other eq tweaks. brought down the tremolo and finally added a sound effect i have been searching for.

https://vocaroo.com/12ehYflqvvsK

>>128651030
dont you have buckets and buckets of shit to still eat?

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>>128651673
sounds nice af. maybe get real guitar if u can cause the midi guitar just reminds me of chief keef beats, still lovely tho

I love off beat bass SO MUCH but its so overused even today

/prod/ challenge: make a the smiths song

>>128651904
i literally plagiarized one of their songs once and got a bunch of replies on it and nobody called me out on it lol.

>>128652014
kek still got the file? would love to hear

>>128651149
Still mulling over this. Unpack it for me?

>>128651085
>have i gone too far now?
No, sounds pretty good now. Everything sounds clear, the bass is defined, guitars are clear and the drums and cymbals cuts through the mix nicely. Kick sounds good now too.

>>128652224
stop being a retarded toddler online and go make some music

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>>128652425
I recognise that loop from clubsounds vol 4.
But cool way of applying it, liked the change up halfway through,

>>128652455
>liked the change up halfway through,
that's yuge, thankies

>>128652242
best help i have gotten on here thanks. i referenced on my jbl speaker and ended up putting a tiny bit of low back in the kick and balancing the low end parallel bass track a bit cause i do want this on the heavy side.

how do i make music like iglooghost?

>>128653050
autism adhd layering

>>128653091
cool, thanks i have that in spades

>>128653193
no really there’s at least one youtube video where he gives a lecture and talks about his process.
i only watched like two minutes but it seemed great for highlighting some specifics of his composition (e.g the layering of more common sounds, extremely frequent shifts of some kind every 4 or 8 bars or whatever and avoiding loops obviously).
remaking songs is always recommended of course

>>128653050
depends on how deep into it you want to get. You can get there very quickly with just selecting for loops, chopping those loops up, rearanging them, pitching, bending, resampling and so on. It honestly sounds alot like chucking a whole bunch of shit at the wall and seeing what fits and removing what doesnt.
Give me an hour and I'll see if I can make something similar to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nKEOshptIg&list=RD6nKEOshptIg&start_radio=1
How do I mix a guitar so it sounds like this? It sounds really "stereo" to me, is it using maybe two mics?
It fills the entirety of my headphones nicely and I'm not sure how to go about it. Any tips?

>>128612755
Only for PC I think

>>128613462
blowjob

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>>128649955
You can hear what's going on, but then when you play something you don't. It doesn't feel like it's affecting the sound. Like having external speakers but connected on your head.
The sound feels like it's 'breathing' more, having more space to 'move' about.

>>128619553
Some old audio engineers say that they spent all the time fighting the muddiness in tape days.
Now they spend all the time taming overly bright transients.

>>128653298
>>128653459
Is there some sort of "Anthology of American Folk Music" of euro-bleep?

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>Chris is on another reverb run

Airwindows bros rejoice !!!

>>128649469
>What the entire thread thinks of you.
what you think doesn't matter. you're on 4chan of all places, you're a literal loser. you're no good at producing music, you have no natural intuition to seek out information about gear etc on your own without having to be constantly spoonfed and handheld.

if you listen purely to dynamic range, yes you would say that #2 is the most compressed. i'm not the frogposter. however it's such a laughably crappy plugin compressor that deprived any appealing character from the loop. this is the type of character that you can get out of a compressor. you're just extrmely bluepilled if you think it's just about dynamic range and not about sounding good. it's also common sense that it's a ridiculous attempt to deceive by messing with the volume and then saying that it's not a trick question.

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>>128655399

>>128641663
Don't watch the movie Amadeus.
That is all.

>>128655418
the frogposter is right anyway insofar as that #1 and #3 sound vastly better than #2. there was already a decent amount of compression and character happening before anon ruined it with the plugin compressor. but most anons are insanely naive with no natural talent to think that that there's anything wrong with how the plugin compressor sounds even if you back off the settings.
>While the TR-707 is a primarily digital device, it still employs some analog circuitry like envelopes and amplifiers.

>>128655399
>if you think it's just about dynamic range
nobody said this
> and not about sounding good
describe in a technical non-bullshit way exactly how one of your choice of compressors sounds "good" compared to a "bad" one
spoiler: you can't because you don't know what you're talking about

>>128655428
kek

i've been meaning to watch the sound of metal as well but i don't want to be thrown into another existential crisis by thinking about it too hard

>>128654583
I am also sorry for not giving srsly3 the respect it deserves I get it now

>>128655631
successful artists like the beatles had a gigachad aura, they naturally knew what they wanted to hear. you can't just force it if you're a corny and unintelligent random kid (manchild). you're not even trying to understand it in good faith so there's no use in engaging with you.

>>128656044
i see you've updated your zoomer lexicon to last years edition finally lmao. very cute.
also bfr we know you don't even like the beatles or know any of the history there lol

>>128656077
not an argument. anons have very low awareness of production and sound quality so they think it's the songwriting that matters by a disproportionate amount. yet there are thousands of literal whos on soundcloud, bandcamp etc who can't string a few chords together to become even mildly successful. really, you believe in some magical quality of the songwriting, when the overwhelming majority of mainstream music is considered to be poorly written, the musical equivalent of shovelware, slop. you're gaslighting yourself by thinking that there's nothing wrong with how you're using plugins etc, the only other excuse besides you being a talentless retard is that you believe in conspiracies that the music industry is rigged so you can't get a decent amount of monthly listeners even if you have released genuinely great sounding music.

>>128656158
nothing you have every said is an argument

>>128656211
here's your (You), untalented retard who will never be successful, you can't even discern painfully obvious quality differences between a song with 1 billion streams vs whichever literally who electronic music producer/DJ you're gushing over at the moment

>>128656330
not an argument

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this month i am choosing not to be depressed anymore.

back to shitpost form.

https://vocaroo.com/1jqag1ubuScz

>>128656467
>back to shitpost form.
free form best form

>>128655271
>what you think doesn't matter. you're on 4chan of all places, you're a literal loser. you're no good at producing music, you have no natural intuition to seek out information about gear etc on your own without having to be constantly spoonfed and handheld
As if you were any different from that
lol

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>>128656158

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Just be the shit guys, it's esdy.
I piss on your rare, analogue, warm machines. You will never make it if you don't stare at the eyes of the serpent every single day.
https://youtu.be/E5NS-8Dbsg4
https://youtu.be/E5NS-8Dbsg4

>>128635530
>Also your low end needs a bit of work, if you're gonna go for wide reese, go balls in. I wanna feel it wrapped around my ears.
Cheers
Yeah it needs a lot more oomph, might also be the preset i'm using
Might need more sub i'm gonna test things out
>>128640518
It's not too bad but overall im not satisfied with the vocals
Gonna fix the track first though, vocals are a couple steps back

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define "noise"

>>128658201
what i don't want, what gets filtered

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Today I haven't prod but maybe a groyper now

>>128658485
kys

>>128658580
Why

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>>128658201
Tons of frequencies clashing, making a wall of static. Or clipping, making audio artifacts.

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>>128658304
"I know it when i see it", i dont like this position at all. this implies a positivist nature of noise. i reject all forms of positivsm with full force.
>>128658634
a naive view that just leads to more questions than answers.
the correct answer is that it depends on the origin. the position of hysteresis.

sorites paradox is what we are trying to answer here, in the end it was a trick question.

>>128658948
when you reaaally think about it, everything is noise.

How do i make music for dogs and cats exclusively?

>>128658948
Seemingly random,chaotic fluctuation of sonic energy, no discernable pitch

>>128660326
Get some speakers that has a range beyond 20/22k, make nice groovy rhythms with some ultrasounds, play them through the speakers?

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>>128660537
>speakers

>>128660591
What should I say to not get shot?
Loudspeakers?
Horn?
Record?

>>128661180
He's british. Speakers are called circle-talkies over there.

>>128661371
the talkyboxy

Enharmonic with barely any or no pitch sound

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a kick impact so hard it shifted the entire arrangement by 1 ms, i should start doing it more often :), it may fuck with model training i guess?

I'm looking for a free book that I found on wikipedia that contains about 120 song sheets sorted by difficulty of playing.
It starts with the happy birthday song, teaching only the rhythm at first, and shit like that.

>make a song
>spend days working on it
>all done :)
>listen to it
>ending sounds like shit
every time man

>>128658201
Music=organised sound
Noise=unorganised sound
Simple as.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/Zi2sM-WgJ-Q
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How do I become as good as goreshit

>>128667373
autism. developing your own aesthetic. actually being competent at other instruments and genres

>>128667373
god damnit man you're going to send me into a breakcore era again fuck

splice on pc suddnly keeps fucking flickering man

>>128668682
>splice
well theres your problem

>>128668686
i know im paying for this shit tho

>>128658201
It's subjective: it's like sound, but bad. Or random in DSP.

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Ate a big dinner
Watching an old anime
It's raining outside
Making trip hop

>extract vocals with a stem splitter
>change vocals' gender with AI tools
>make covers of songs you like
Holy shit, this is so addicting. I've just spent 20 minutes noodling my guitar to a voice only track. As a solo player who has no one who can jam with him, this is next level shit. Before this, I recreated backing tracks of the songs I liked and it kept me happy for some time. But this feels way more like I'm actually making music with people.

>>128665935
some noise can be organized but seemingly disorganized.
like chaotic equations are most of the time deterministic.

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https://gofile.io/d/CSuIWK
/prod/ asmr, random flow

>>128609092
Cope. Who cares about some tiny harmonics when you absolutely dime the input. UAD plugins are spot on and this clown couldn't hear the difference in a mix if he tried.

>>128671302
Some people are more concerned with the color of their dream bugatti than how they're going to earn the money to buy one.

In other words, it's just car porn for audionerds who dream about opening a studio but cant put together half decent rough mix to save their lives and they delusionally believe that getting 8000 dollar hardware compressors are the secret to a good mix since they cant make one with ordinary gear and software.

It's just cope for people who cant mix. Like pluginchasers thinking that this and that plugin is the secret sauce to a professional grade mix.

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>trying to open old projects I worked on at a music school 10 years ago
>everything is on protools pre version 12
>I have to find the cracks
>rapidgator ddl's doesn’t work
>99 days stimate to download the sound banks from torrents
Feels bad being a poorfag...

https://vocaroo.com/1cNFShKZRxHW

Really poor attempt at drone/ambient. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I could do this better? And maybe some effects plugins recommendations?

>>128675608
not a bad attempt.
plugin wise for ambient pretty much the only plugin i find absolutely essential is airwindows consolidated (reverb and various distortions/colour) and your choice of a granular synth (and or some source of "real" instruments, foley, noise whatever your thing is.
... and valhalla delay to a lesser degree.

as is i think the main thing you should probably focus on is the macro movement of your phrases.
every track i can make out is pretty much just looping together.
for minimal stuff like this you have to create interest on the musical side by extending those phrases, adding some source of "humanization," poly meter, automation... something. or everything.

>>128675728
Yeah, I've been really struggling with writing more as of late. I've only been coming up with like 2 or 4 bars and then not being able to make anything else work. This, I think, was 4 bars I stretched out to 16. It probably doesn't also help I didn't have a real aesthetic goal in mind. This short loop is my first conscious effort.

>airwindows consolidated
I'm very basic and usually don't use plugins without a GUI or presets but I'll give it another shot.

Do you really think the VSTis don't matter? I don't think I've ever used a granulizer so I'll look into that.

>>128675860
Well Airwindows Consolidated was an overhaul in that it actually does have a GUI.

>Do you really think the VSTis don't matter?
No, they absolutely do matter; what I recommended was based on my own experience/preference and availability.
If you have a very specific sound in mind already you should definitely seek out an appropriate plugin.
... more so for instruments imo.

>>128675608
https://www.youtube.com/@TrashSoundDesign/videos
fl studio is a mixing torture chamber but i think it is pretty cool for ambient stuff because edison can do cool stuff with denoising.
it also has a granulizer.

emergence is a good plugin check it out.

>>128676884
>>128676736
Thank you.

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need an advanced synthesis tutorial to recreate pic related

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>>128679626
You should stop any creative endeavour. People who enjoy toilet humour should have their rights of public expression removed.

>>128680266
you wouldnt say this to mozart's face