What went so wrong? They were fantastic
War and Joshua Tree have some great songs, but also some songs so bad that I want to immediately stop listening.
>>128645899like with many bands - money, ego, fame
Got too popular. It's a tale as old as time. They had a good run into 90s though.
>>128645899Bono disappeared up his own asshole and thought he could change the world by preaching to the crowd
>>128645899Bono was jealous of Ian Curtis and a was cunt to him
>>128645899the Edges simplistic guitar style was exposed after 5 albums and he was out of ideas. so they got into disco, techno and all other kinds of faggotry
>>128646011Ian was a faggot and New Order mogs his tone deaf cringe ass bullshit.
>>128646052this
The Unforgetabble Fire IS an objective great album.
If they kept going doing the electronic path of Achtung Baby and Pop they almost certainly would be considered the second most innovative mainstream band of all time behind the Beatles.Negative reviews of Pop must have made them nervous so they decided to always play it safe and they completely lost their risk taking spirit.
>>128645899Meh lots of rock bands started great and went downhill. It has more to do with the genre itself
>>128646404zooropa was legit pretty weird for mainstream rocki can understand why u2 pisses people off so much - imagine going from numb to...veritgo and beautiful day
KINO:https://youtu.be/vLlllKuuVrQ?si=4PSNrUZFwYR95HEQhttps://youtu.be/n_4GDE_38So?si=0r2hSCt4n2ccOgsSunironically more influential to post-punk revival than joy division
I think the problem is their coolest stuff was not their most influential or most popular stuff. Their first thee albums are great, but they're just post-punk albums. The stuff they did from the late 80s onward was massively influential in music and culture, and they were one of the biggest bands in the world in the late 80s. In the late 80s every alternative band wanted to sound like them - Minor Threat even broke up because everybody in Minor Threat wanted to sound like U2 except Ian, who knew he couldn't sing like Bono.This isn't unheard of either. IMO Green Day were a great band in the 90s, but their most iconic album is American Idiot, which IMO is when they started sucking. But that whiny, overproduced sound made them even more accessible to the mainstream. Metallica's actually another great example - when they stopped being a thrash band they both started to suck and became the biggest metal band in history.
>>128646472>Minor Threat even broke up because everybody in Minor Threat wanted to sound like U2 except Ian, who knew he couldn't sing like Bonono one now remembers it, but there was absolutely a widespread trend in the late 80s of hardcore bands trying to sound like u2.
>>128646472>>128646498the chameleons took their style from early U2 and made three post-punk classics
I like how it's slowly becoming acceptable to admit that U2 is a good band. This would have been unthinkable on here a few years ago.Anyway, critics were retarded for not liking Pop. The production is a little wonky but the songs are great. Especially when they performed them live on the tour. Songs like Gone and Miami completely came alive.I think Miami especially is easily the most underrated U2 song. It's unironically too cool for normies. The beat was like 20 years ahead of its time.
>>128646498>there was absolutely a widespread trend in the late 80s of hardcore bands trying to sound like u2.and//or the cure…
>>128646678>>128646498I think die kreuzen is a other good example
>>128646498Can you provide some examples? I'm genuinely curious
>>128646472This. The ZOOTV tour remains to this day the peak of rock'n'roll as maximalistic performance art in the post-modern era.
>>128646011>was cunt to himElaborate?
>>128646011>>128651684"This man with the weight of the whole universe in his voice, this crooner from some black hole - the dark lord - stepped forward and I was like, Oh my god, I’m going to meet Ian Curtis," Bono recalled. "I put my hand out and he went, ‘Alright?’ And I couldn’t believe the sound he made.It was just this sweet, sweet sound. He was this beautiful soul but he sang from this other place…. It was a very special moment."pretentious way to put it, but bono seemed to really like him
>>128645899Basically what went wrong is they had to reinvent themselves three times.First, they started as an angry and passionate mix of Joy Division and Stiff Little Fingers with their "Poet" era - writing about their own experiences and their woes (which is why War is often considered their best album, seeing how they were affected by the Troubles). Problem is their ambition, growing love of Americana and a more artistic push by Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno eventually lead to an egotistical peak with Rattle and Hum.The second reinvention came with their "Ironic" era beginning with Achtung Baby - Incorporating electronic influences, satirical songwriting and a far more "alternative" approach that worked wonders intially, before getting so caught up in the irony and leading to Pop and its disastrously expensive tour.Finally we have the last reinvention - The "Humble" era, in which they reinvented themselves yet again with All You Can't Leave Behind's more tasteful and palatable mix of their previous styles together without going too far. That way they can still create lavish yet unpretentious (and often kinda boring) works of art and tours that have kept them alive for years and years where other bands haven't.
>>128646529By the nine, this band is making tweak how great they arehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=95pJvqUv_Zo
>>128645899Their last good album was pop. Never understood the hate it got.
>>128646052The best New Order song is Ceremony and that’s an Ian song all the way through. If he had put off roping for two more weeks you would have a fantastic Joy Division studio version.
>>128645899They were good from to War to Zooropa they just fell off like all bands/artists eventually do.
>>128649385Can attest that the ZOOTV Outside Broadcast concert was the best concert I ever attended. I was at a live performance the week after Bill Clinton was elected president and when Bono called the White House.he told the receptionist they could tell George Bush he wouldn't be calling him anymore. ( ZOOTV had a segment where in the second part of the concert he would use a phone that was connected to the main speakers and call someone famous. (usually a world leader)
>>128653442>Finally we have the last reinvention - The "Humble" era, in which they reinvented themselves yet again with All You Can't Leave Behind's more tasteful and palatable mix of their previous styles together without going too far. That way they can still create lavish yet unpretentious (and often kinda boring) works of art and tours that have kept them alive for years and years where other bands haven't.I was surprised to see Lou Reed list Stuck In a Moment as one of his top 100 favorite songs.I mean, I guess it's nice..but not that great.
>>128658038Lou Reed was a part of the ZOOTV performance.At the end of the bands acoustic set Bono would sing Satellite of Love in sort of duet with Lou video that was recorded by Lou for use in the concert.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqNjH62wjJY
>>128658013Radiohead could never
>>128645899Most bands have a 10 year period where their best work is made, typically at the start but not always, before becoming derivative, self-referential and out of ideas
>>128645899Too much KFC
>COA
>>128658470Long ago, in the crispy skies above Mount Gravy, Bono, the sunglasses-clad God of KFC, ruled with a greasy fist over the Golden Bucket of Eternal Chicken. This bucket was no mere vessel—it was said to contain the original 11 herbs and secrets of the universe, passed down by the Colonel himself in a flaming drumstick dream.But trouble brewed in the indie heavens.Radiohead, the glitchy titans of emotional dissonance, had grown hungry. Led by the cryptic warlock Thom Yorke, they cast lo-fi spells to steal tenders from Bono’s sacred supply, whispering lyrics like curses: "Everything in its right place… even your chicken."
I remember how I listened to it first. Thought it had to be bad because of 'U2'. I thought Bloody Sunday was a 10/10 and expected the album to only have that one good song but it never got worse as I kept listening.
>>128658489Coldplay wasn't far behind. Chris Martin, wielding his piano like a battering ram, led a band of pastel crusaders to batter the Bucket—literally—with the beat of "Viva La Fried-a." They believed fried chicken was too mainstream for the gods and deserved to be reimagined as kale.Furious, Bono descended from his Zinger chariot and called forth the mighty Waffle Wars of the Side Dishes, summoning coleslaw cyclones and biscuit meteors. The arena? The Flaming Drive-Thru of Olympus, guarded by statues of The Colonel weeping gravy tears.But just as Bono struck Coldplay down with the power of a Double Down, a voice echoed through the steam.Jim Morrison emerged from the mist of deep fryer oil, wearing a flame-broiled crown.
>>128658499>>128658489you're not funny. you're not like bryonposter if you think that. nobody ever participated in your forced meme, loser
>>128658499"You never saw the signs," he said, licking a suspiciously char-grilled Whopper. "I’ve always been with Burger King."Bono's sunglasses cracked."But Jim," he gasped, "you sang about breaking on through...""Yeah," Jim smirked. "Breaking through to the flame-broiled side."Suddenly, a black van labeled J.S.C. screeched across the clouds—Jewish Section of the CIA. Out stepped agents with gefilte grenades and espionage onions. Jim handed them a thumb drive shaped like a pickle."The Bucket is compromised," he whispered.
>>128658507Betrayed, battered, but still crispy at heart, Bono fled to a hidden bunker beneath a shuttered Long John Silver’s, vowing to return one day… with Popcorn Chicken vengeance.The End…?Or is it just the beginning of the Fast Food Pantheon War?
>>128658524https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTXiJpCDiH4
>>128645899COA
What do we think about this album? The Eno/Lanois additions were interesting
>>128659286Great album, No skips for me.(Not that skip songs on physical media anyway,)Was really their breakout album because of the success as a single of "Pride" and it heavy rotation of the music video on MTV.
>>128658506Time for a reminder on where this unfunny garbage came from https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/124654661/>Red and black = KFCHilarious joke ! (please clap)
>>128659489Coa
>>128659489yes I remember. he has low functioning autism it seems. the color palette meme isn't even on point.
>>128645899Virgin Prunes, The Edge's brother's band, is better
>>128659489>>128659627YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
>>128659489NTA but I'm a COA apologist, best nu-/mu/ meme in years
>>128655010Ceremony isn't even a top 10 New Order song. Get out of here with that shit.
>>128659286>>128659329Elvis Presley and America sucks
>>128659489Jesus Christ this is retarded >>128659995It's really not. You're a moron.>>128660041Shut up, you dumb gay bitch
>>128660069suck my pollo frito, bitch
>>128661320Shouldn't you be visiting the train museum, you gay fucking autist?
>>128661499suck my pollo frito, bitch
>>128661567Brilliant comeback, Rain Man
>>128661499IN THE TRAIN OF LOVEONE COA IN THE TRAIN OF LOVE
>>128661638>Rain Manyou meant chicken man
>>128661653>>128661728Samefag yeah yeah yeah
coa
>>128661755HAWK TUAH
>>128660069Wanna cry, bitch? Your meme didn't make it, deal with it
>>128662579Yours didn’t either. You’re the sole participant, loser autist
>>128662293HAWK COAH
Quick, which of these fried chicken brands do you prefer?:>KFC>Chick-fil-A>Popeye´s>Bojangles>Raising Cane's >Wingstop
>>128662788That’s what it looks like when someone has never had a single friend. Not ever invited to a party either. Sad
>>128645899Their best tune will forever be Gloria.
>>128662666>2666Nice trips and nice book but it's a waste of a coincidence since you're wrong. You have no evidence to claim about my said autism.
>>128645899That little boy was your dad. That's what happened.
>>128645899They were average at best. They might be nominally Irish but in fact they're just another turd in the lot of overrated Britpop as are Joy Division, The Stone Roses, Oasis, Blur, The Police and all that crap Brits try to hype and sell to the world as the 8th wonder of music.
>>128662986>better than the bible
>>128662986Your entire existence is proof of your autism. That book sucks btw.
>>128663772>>128663753
>>128663807You're not helping your autism case
>>128663821>wachu said bout chicken, mate?!
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>>128645899what went RIGHT?they were an excellent band for 20 years before they fell off. that's more than joy divison / new order, more than the rolling stones, more than 98% of rock bands that get lauded.
>>128645899I don't know, but their next album was a massive improvement
>>128645899yeah yeah yeah
>>128646469>wait a minute each for these to get good>they don't
>>128662788Beyond Meat
>>128654699Chameleons did the early U2 sound better than U2. GOAT'd.
>>128645899I'll ask my mum
>>128645899They got old and tired of making depressing shitAlso even shitty U
never heard anything like 'Drowning man'
Boy [Island, 1980]Their youth, their serious air, and their guitar sound are setting a small world on fire, and I fear the worst. No matter where they're starting off--not as big as Zep, maybe, but not exactly on the grunge circuit either--their echoey vocals already teeter on the edge (in-joke) of grandiosity, so how are they going to sound by the time they reach the Garden? What kind of Christian idealists lift their best riff from PIL (or from anywhere at all)? As bubble-headed as the teen-telos lyrics at best. As dumb as Uriah Heep at worst. C+
>>128659627Autism might be the most abused word of the last 20 years but>Your "super funny meme" is super funny because the band's one-time producer worked at KFC to sell recordsDictionary definition of tism, meaningful connections that are meaningless to everyone else
>>128645899The part where they started becoming cancerous was when Bono decided he was God's gift to world peace and starving African children.
>>128662833FUNDAY CHICKEN FUNDAYCOA
>>128669653>>128669670
>>128646388I'm a huge U2 fan, and The Unforgettable Fire is my least favorite of their canon classic albums.It's basically like the Oscar bait of music.Songs about racism? Check.Songs about America? Check.Songs about war? Check.Elvis Presley and America is like if you told AI to make the most boomer tier song for the Rolling Stone magazine generation.This would be forgivable but the songs don't back it up. Bad is the only good song and even that is completely shit on by the Wide Awake in America live version.The Joshua Tree improved on UF in every conceivable way and is considered the better album for a reason.
>>128669686https://youtu.be/l1Rz5p23MIg
>>128663772>That book sucks btwYou may dislike COA meme (I, honestly don't see the reason why) but saying "2666" sucks is nothing but intellectual dishonesty!
>>128646472>Minor Threat even broke up because everybody in Minor Threat wanted to sound like U2kek i had no idea this was a thing. seems pretty lame. would love to know more examples of hardcore bands trying to go bigger like that.
Coa
>>128669670no party like a kfc party
>>128645899nothinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCHCSdTmiIE
>>128646388Totally agree The uforgetabble fire is just PURE and RAW version of the joshua tree (the joshua tree is really good but is really overproduced in studio)
>>128654974>Never understood the hate it got.It wasn't a mainstream radio album, it was too dance, disco and triphop for mainstream audience.NLOTH is the only good album after POP.
Best 4 album released in a row ever.
>>128659286>Prefer this one
>>128673382Not even the best 4 albums in a row by u2. What the fuck?
>>128673382Unfathomably based.>>12867429990s U2 > 80s U2>>128673325>NLOTH is the only good album after POPThis, that album is pretty underrated. Had they took out the radio appeasing pop rockers and replaced them with the more ambient/electronic tunes they left out (which made Brian Eno mad to the point he'll never colab with them again) it could have been one of their best records.
>>128674352No one on earth believes 90s U2 is better than 80s U2, anon. I'm sorry.
>>128674371It's alright, wisdom will one day arise and those pleb opinions will dissipate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjh9hmXnAo
>>128645899ol zac brown has the whole chicken thang downhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riWhiwCbDD0
love their 90s remixes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXZ3ATG-TJo
>>128645899>All is quiet....on KFC!
>>128673382There's only one good album (Achtung Baby), a decent one (Zooropa) and the rest are trash
>>128669893>Elvis Presley and America is like if you told AI to make the most boomer tier song for the Rolling Stone magazine generation.Yeah. Those fucks would really LOVE a rambling song with no real choruses that doesn't really go anywhere. That said, it's a great song and your music criticism needs some work.
>>128675954Coa
KFCposters are based and U2 are cringe
>>128674964Their b-sides from 80s and 90s were really cool. Shame about the 2000s and 2010s
>>128679645¿Cómo está?
>>128676276makes no sense to like Zooropa and not Original Soundtracks (or Pop for that matter)
>>128682334I agree, each album is a evolution from the previous one.
>>128680833I heard the COAposter was brutally raped by several young black gentlemen in the sizzling summer of 2004
>>128680833They both have their pros and cons. While COA can be funny, it can also become an overused joke. U2 on the other hand, had a good run in the 1980s, but the rest of their catalogue is weak in comparison. Ultimately, it all depends on the lens you're looking through IMO.
Hello hello
>>128684373Coa
absolute kino
>>128684791Absolutely great performance
Whats with the chicken shit?
>>128685035Just one poster. Ignore
>>128683623IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY
>>128685139DONT LET THEM FRY AWAY
>>128685111I don't think it's just one poster, a lot of people seem to find COA hilarious. Even some of my IRL friends who are also /mu/tants
>>128686948Ok, Samefag
>>128686965>Ok, Samefag
>>128686965C O AOA
>>128685035think their producer sells KFC in china or something
He went on Oprah and didn't know when to stfu
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
What’s your favorite The Edge performance, guys?
>>128692373I thought he was called the hedge?
>>128645944Joshua Tree was an incredibly boring listen and I will not change my mind on that.
>>128692373The one where he fries bono in red rocks with colonel sanders
>>128645899because you know how it is. Millenials never knew the U2 of War, they only knew the U2 of Bono being a screechingly self-important guy addressing the UN about world hunger and global warming.
>>128692373When he back at vocals or he sing, also the fly live version, stuck in a moment, spanish eyes, vertigo, where the streets have no name, dirty day.
>>128684791is really good, same goes for popmart Italia, Sarajevo, Johannesburg and Santiago de chile.But the superior choice is popmart leeds:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aouVtibARNk
>Bono was never up his own ass before the turn of the centuryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=466cmHs0RM8Uh huh
KFC COA COA U2 COA BONO
>>128646003this, give your own money away, wealthy asshole, not other people's
>>128693444I found it strange that they were always shown playing in large stadiums with futuristic stages, and in commercials. But you always got the feeling that they belonged to another world, since nobody actually seemed to like them.
>>128645899post punk u2 sucked too aside from a few songs. anyone who thinks otherwise fell for the "their early work was better" meme
>>128696286COA COA COA COA COA COA COA
>>128698755
>>128698735>memeyou sound like a faggot
>>128699187OH OH OH THE SWEETEST WING
>>128695597Fuck, Edge sounds amazing there
Eating kfc
>>128645899this is not even their best album
>>128701137Fuck, chicken tastes amazing there
>>128645899The edge collab on Snake Charmer woth mbr of can/pil is auperb
>>128701137Should had gone to popeye's
>>128702457yes that album is pretty groovy, wild to think it came out in the same year as War
>>128702457Jah Wobble is phenomenal
>>128701553based zooropa enjoyer.
>>128703212Agree
>>128709489.
>>128705915COAposter: are you a /rog/ apologist?
>>"I'm very secure with the fact that I'm not black. I'm white, pink and rosy. But I've got soul." --Bono "KFC" vox
>>128710914Mu is a /rog/ board
>>128711623Truer words have never been said
>>128711784i coa´d that
>>128711623Maggie /rog/ers?
>>128711557he may not be black but he enjoys his fried chicken as much as any nigga
Bullet the Blue Sky would be great if he didn't start moaning like he's taking it up the ass
>>128717386You have no coa
>>128645899they are just not good
This kfc spam is autistic as fuckAnyway you just have to listen to their post 90s material, its very uninspiring and safe, they wanted to distance themselves from Pop very quickly
>>128719959Yet you still listen to Radiohead
