Lovedrive editionScorpions - Lovedrive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7EpCb8OjwThis thread is dedicated to the discussion of traditional heavy metal and its many sub-genres. Hard rock that is both historically and musically adjacent to traditional metal is also welcomed. Lastly, if this is your first time posting here please view the link below:More info: https://pastebin.com/FeVuNsmdCHARTS1970s: https://files.catbox.moe/xe7h8x.png USEFUL LINKShttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1luaLZfavSeXui9RkO1PZ3U5gAE1XHfkH?usp=drive_link - Giant archive of old metal & rock magazines.https://www.metal-archives.com/ - Search for your favorite bands and look under the “similar artists” tab.https://en.metal-tracker.com/ - Bittorrent tracker from Russia, in order to use it you need to have a registered account. https://rateyourmusic.com/ - Search for albums, charts and lists here. (Some early trad albums have metal as a secondary rather than primary; so when looking for music from the early-mid ‘70s make sure you include heavy metal as a secondary in your filter as well.)https://www.slsknet.org/news/node/1 - P2P application for downloading albums. It is your best friend!Vote for the next album here: https://strawpoll.com/X3nkP167zgEPrevious thread: >>128535008
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>>128660557https://youtu.be/ItFddM32bxs?si=bu46m5m48vsooIH4>YOU'RE GOING FOR MY HEAAAAD>YOU'RE GOING DOWN>GETTING GOOD AT BEING BAD>YOU'RE HANGING AROUND
>>128660644OH WON'T YOU LET GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that riff at 4:59 is kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmimtjDQgZI
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>>128660467scorps had some cool lp art man>>128661784=VH= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kiss
>>128661930In what ways?
>>128661953in every fucking way except for wearing make up
>>128662019Yeah, well, that's just your opinion man
>>128661777>Come on man, KISS has darker songs than Van Halen in the 70s.That's not really what I'm arguing, though. KISS does have darker songs (and honestly I can't name a single "dark" VH song from the '70s), yes, but Van Halen is consistently more metallic.>Their heaviest from the 70s, like Runnin' With The Devil or Beautiful Girl are clearly not as dark as KISS's songsNot really good examples imo. I'd call Light up the Sky's main riff heavier than ANY '70s Kiss song and even a good chunk of most metal from that time. It's an intense song for 1979. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzo3Sf7MpZw
>>128662283Yeah, fair play, hey, there's a reason everyone followed Eddie where he went by the time the 80s came. Light Up The Sky (listening to it now) sounds like something that bands of the 80s played. So you are correct.Have you ever listened to their demos before they were signed? They have two songs which are bangers, Believe Me and Big Trouble
>>128662445>Light Up The Sky (listening to it now) sounds like something that bands of the 80s played.I know right? I was surprised at how ahead of the curve it was. >Have you ever listened to their demos before they were signed? They have two songs which are bangers, Believe Me and Big TroubleI have not, no.
solid album, and much better than their debut. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiPGg_KDjvchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3U7KdEeDoM
>>128662518Check it out, it's from the tape they sent to Gene Simmons and got them signed.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=965oFkhMQH8&list=RD965oFkhMQH8&start_radio=1&pp=ygUVdmFuIGhhbGVuIGJpZyB0cm91YmxloAcB
>>128662601this should've replaced the kinks cover on their debut, AMAZING groove
>>128660467Lovedrive is so kino, as much as I love the uli jon roth era the real scorps peak is the run from lovedrive to love at first sting
>>128662811blackout is one of the best heavy metal albums of all time, but outside of that monumental record i'd still say the roth era's better
>>128662711It's a tune allright!!!
peaks with the title track but there's still a lot of fun to be had, still think bomber is their best album thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQchKv6OSQAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnFaFMGS9JQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjMIg570tkE
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SET YOUR SIGHTS ON THE SATELLI-IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITEEEEEEEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnQzY5rVKxYgod this song's awesome, if it just didn't have that bizarre "oo yeah! oo yeah!" in the chorus it'd honestly be my favorite off the album
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>>128663623OTTN's deep cuts are just great. I just wish Hello America's chorus didn't get butchered by a shoddy production job, if you've ever heard the single version it's much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE9Q2d7ORVU
started off very promising but it lost me by the halfway point, too much bloat in the songs imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTeXrPau6O4
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>>128653933>nta, but a song like under the gun is far and away heavier than any van halen song. but vh's debut is consistently more metallic than any kiss album from the '70s imho.I checked out that Kiss song (Under the Gun), and it's got actual shredding in the song (like at the start and in parts of the guitar solo):https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy8AmZiae0UI didn't expect that from a KISS song. Maybe it's because it had a different lead guitarist.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animalize
The first song on that album animalize is also definitely metal:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=wSWv1iVRu1MIdk about the others though.
https://youtu.be/QpKNsXqZ-08?si=GGhjCQwhI_Pvdor6Some great singing in this one
Hidewayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oVMBOv8eNE
>>128660467>https://www.metal-archives.com/ - Search for your favorite bands and look under the “similar artists” tab.Here's another site like that one: https://www.metalmusicarchives.com/It's in a webring with https://www.progarchives.com/ though I don't know if it has the same owners.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=z4orIkG_tEQ
>>128666825>Tribal dance, tribal dance>Tribal dance, tribal dance>It's a full moon, yeyo de coca (Tribal dance)>Son of a malaka>Give me money then we'll do the tribal danceNo idea what a son of a malaka is.The full lyrics: https://genius.com/Armored-saint-tribal-dance-lyrics
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>>128660467WOULD YOU LIKE TO FOLLOW?WOULD YOU LIKE TO FOLLOW?https://youtu.be/f304Q-AXzdg
>>128661930Hell yes. GOAT Storm Thorgerson did the Lovedrive and Animal Magnetism covers
>>128662283>I can't name a single "dark" VH song from the '70sAtomic Punkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m-DYM7JvMAAinti tAlkin' Bout love is pretty dark ( My love is rotten to the core) And while Fair Warning came out in April of 1980- the songs were written in the 70s and is VH's darkest album for sureMean StreetsDirty MoviesSinners Swing...even Push Comes to Shove is pretty dark....
>>128666825Looking into MMA right now, it's definitely more streamlined than Metallum but it seems to lack many of the deep cuts that website has and there doesn't appear to be a "related artists" tab. However it does have a new releases page.>It's in a webring with https://www.progarchives.com/ though I don't know if it has the same owners.I also took a cursory glance at this site too, and from what I'm seeing it's much more in-depth than MMA is.
>>128662601>>128662711It made their last album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIcNG-eEV7k>Believe Me>128662518That tune is so good- wish it would have made ADKOT. great live version here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXCaK4_awPQ
>>128666159>Idk about the others though.I've listened to Animalize a few times and I can pretty confidently tell you the only metal songs on that one are this and Under the Gun. Burn Bitch Burn has a bit of the sound but the rest of the record is cookie-cutter glam/hard rock and is much softer than the previous two albums. If you want metal KISS, you should listen to those. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=479TQwqTQIshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuF2QS4HEJohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu6j1FfDvIkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e7QdsNEqrghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOIiVHCPMR8
This song also REALLY kicks ass, one of KISS's more underrated tunes (and riffs, love how energetic this one is). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvFQoZwHjDU8
>>128671349>REALLY kicks assMaybe if you're 12 lol
>>128671446Well you can say that for pretty much any KISS song ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>128671471Good point
>>128671144It looks like you meant to quote this post: >>128666757>I also took a cursory glance at this site too, and from what I'm seeing it's much more in-depth than MMA is.I think Prog archives was around for about a decade longer than MMA. I think it also didn't have a larger and older competitor (the more well known encyclopaedia metallum).
>>128671957>It looks like you meant to quote this post: >>128666757Oops. >I think Prog archives was around for about a decade longer than MMA.I found a post on the MMA forums from 2010 so at least 8 years.
Yesterday I realized that Whitesnake and Van Halen released their first 6 albums the same years. And since I can listen to music all nights during work I decided to listen to each of them year for year. I'm gonna start on 1981 tonight. So far, I've liked Whitesnake more.
>>128672303Whitesnake's alright but I wouldn't put them in the same sphere as Van Halen. I remember Lovehunter and Come an' Get It getting very samey.
>>128671187>great live version herethats an incredible tune. why didnt they ever record it?
>>128672334>>128672366Any thoughts on this?>>128670356
>>128672203prog archives has a banner at the top of it's site that says it was founded in 2002, so it seems like it was about an 8 year gap. There's also a jazz site in their webring ( https://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/ ), but idk the amount of overlap that genre has with older metal.
>>128670356Maybe spends a bit too much time on buildup but otherwise good
>>128672419>Any thoughts on this?Meh. Kind of an Iron Maiden/Dream Theater vibe...doesnt really move me but im hard to thrill
>>128660467>https://rateyourmusic.com/ - Search for albums, charts and lists here. (Some early trad albums have metal as a secondary rather than primary; so when looking for music from the early-mid ‘70s make sure you include heavy metal as a secondary in your filter as well.)Another site like RYM is https://www.allmusic.com/I don't know how well each measures up to each other.
>>128666830The fuck? That's an armored saint song??? Son of a malaka??? HahahaAre you greek? Because malaka is a greek word
Some of you might be interested in this:https://www.youtube.com/@MetalSchoolChannel/videosThis guy does reviews/documentaries about a bunch of 80s era metal bands. You don't see the guy while he talks if that matters to anyone, its just narration over footage of the band or photos.
>>128671088From the 70s my dude, from the 70sAnd we are talking about music, not lyrics
>>128672598>The fuck? That's an armored saint song??? Son of a malaka??? HahahaYeah, it's one of my favorite armored saint songs.>Are you greek? Because malaka is a greek word.I'm not greek, are you? Does it actually mean wanker? Wikipedia spelled it as Malakas so im not sure if its the same word.
>>128671088>>128672649Unchained is probably heavier than the other songs on the fair warning album.
>>128672334Listening to them back-to-back, I find Van Halen samey. Especially David Lee Roth's whole gimmick.
>>128672609>You don't see the guy while he talksMore people should do this. The persons face taking up a quarter of the screen adds nothing.
>>128672560Never been a fan of allmusic's layout, there isn't even a metal genre to search for. It's all grouped under the umbrella "Pop/Rock". You can't really do deep dives there.>>128672609He makes pretty good content but his voiceover can get very stilted. His RATT retrospective comes to mind for me, there are multiple parts where there's an obvious pause between his lines that just doesn't sound natural. And his occasional quips/attempts at jokes almost always bomb because of that.
>>128672649>From the 70s my dudeMost of Fair Warning was written in the 70s...so....>we are talking about music, not lyrics>lyrics dont make a song darkokby your memetake- this would be the darkest VH song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQhIGzLg7Xw
>>128672609i forgot to mention, but he also talks about a few bands on his channel that seem to be more on the glam side or mainstream. Stuff like cinderella or Europe.Most seem to trad metal though.
>>128660467I checked out the album poll. I'm not familiar with all the songs on In Rock, but I liked child in time and speed king.It's annoying to me how some versions of the track cut the intro in speed king. Thankfully there's offical uploads on youtube (if that's your platform of choice) that keep the intro.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=_XO3QmYfdrI
you've heard of diamond dave... but now get ready for...DAPPER dave.
>>128673009>I'm not familiar with all the songs on In Rock, but I liked child in time and speed king.Oh my god, dude, stop what you're doing and listen to In Rock right now. IMO it's a contender for one of the best metal/rock albums.
>>128672652Yes it means wanker.
>>128672902Fair Warning was the '81 album though
>>128673179but a lot of the music was written in the 70s- like mean street.
>>128673295Mean Street and Unchained are good songs.
>>128673874For me, its Sinners Swing. The solo rips.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M_lxaHCk-M
very fun album, and great listening if you're a fan of accept. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUv6otmkpkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRUq3t3hQEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqIl-5RLnQE
>>128673874Unchained's riff is just nasty, one of Eddie's best
>>128671088Sunday Afternoon in the Park
>>128673874>>128674411You ever listened to any isolated tracks? they are fascinating. The tone is simply monsteroushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIxH7OIyCfw>>128674507>Sunday Afternoon in the ParkThat outtro is straight fire
>>128660467was this a hipgnosis cover?
>>128673923GET GET GET GET GET OUT AND PUSH!
starts off as one of their best albums but loses its way by the end. sucks, the a side is some of the best metal this band has played and i love the thrashy edge they added to their sound here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw-jcG8VRmohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfl8Xbbvsjg
great speed metal but the instrumental towards the middle of the album was pointless
>>128675030I ran sound for these guys a few years back at a medium sized club. Nice guys. They made it a point to tell how Metallica opened up for them back in the day. There were less than 100 people in attendance.
>>128676369Yeah, when Raven came to the usa they were on a tour with Metallica and Venom.
>>128676456When he (John Gallagher) was telling me about it, it was almost as if he was taking credit for some of their success. "we took them under our wings, mate" I was thinking "yeah, whatever, dude" but I let him carry on with out any comment from me. He was very animated and energetic for a guy who seemed to be well in to his 70s.
>>128672522>>128672500This might be more for you:https://youtu.be/0sJ6z_7JdCghttps://youtu.be/I6I8pObNHlEhttps://youtu.be/UCIYjOnWNVQ
It has metal elements but it's more hard rock. Kind of an over looked and under rated classic.
>>128676810https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXi0OMIqW8&list=RDnVXi0OMIqW8&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4lKJ0pdTg&list=RDhv4lKJ0pdTg&start_radio=1
>>128676810>It has metal elements but it's more hard rock.Feel the Same, No Lies and maybe Don't Bring Me Down are the only songs that strike me as particularly rock-y. The rest of the album is pretty much pure metal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucPuzoyWLFs>Kind of an over looked and under rated classic.It's one of the more known classic trad albums. Underrated to the general public (though not totally unknown, the SiriusXM station Ozzy's Boneyard actually plays a few songs from this one sometimes), but I've seen plenty of love given to it in enthusiast circles.
Def Leppard - It Could Be You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM--HL0-sRMOne of their fastest songs, check it out
>>128676881The people who know about it, love it. Unfortunately, there's not that many that do.
>>128671666These niggaz get ASS
>>128677085Yeah. Personally I think Fire Down Under is one of the top releases from 80-81, every song is a bullseye. Even No Lies, the weakest off the record is still a very good song. And the whole album just gives off a cozy vibe, which I attribute to its production sounding an early Scorpions album on bath salts.Riot - Outlaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrq_yNWCgB4Scorpions - Longing for Fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzGM-ZE7-Kc
I CAN HOLD HERCAN YOU ROLL HER
>>128673163Is it really that good?
>>128677549Absolutely. Even ignoring the obvious hits like Speed King, Child in Time and Flight of the Rat, the rest of the record is still jam-packed with excellent guitarwork and its closer has probably the first galloping metal riff. It's an essential release.
Just redid the 1980-1981 chart since I both didn't have it saved and the format was very out of date. Took this as an opportunity to also add a couple albums I remember anons wanting + WaCf and FW.
>>128677962Very cool!
>>128677962Didn't think venom would be there
>>128677607Pretty good.
>>128677962What's the status with the rest of the charts? No rush, just curious.
>>128660557https://youtu.be/aHYlxzW20LA?si=xgRxnMBGr_Z48i3RDiscovered these dudes yesterday, pretty cool. Like electric wizard but a bit more sludgy.
What's some "Stonesy" metal? Only thing that comes to mind is Cinderella's Long Cold Winter and Heartbreak Station
>>128679119songs for the deaf by QOTSA came to my mind
>>128663317Listened again yesterday, god the drum sound on this album fucks
>>128660557https://youtu.be/-kEkTt_X8YM?si=IFmOaPiH07QugUdGhttps://youtu.be/qdlQyNe_9tE?si=Tujdbfn0jNq70bW1https://youtu.be/Or8Ba20Q_OY?si=rvyUzZokuOlYhEQwhttps://youtu.be/FMbl1ntpIXQ?si=OCd0V8MbUf4Zrdckhttps://youtu.be/cwPg8gJq_Kw?si=H4sW8AFXfYDHGZDu
>>128679562The guitars, too. So crunchy in a way that’s just non-existent on even High ‘n’ Dry and Pyromania.
>>128672706>I find Van Halen sameyAs opposed to Whitesnake? lol Guess you havent got to Diver Down yet
>>128674595that is interesting to hear just the guitar. the dude could play.
>>1286787611986's is pretty much done (only has two slots left) and we'll probably be starting the 1987 chart next thread. As for the previous ones, I plan on redoing 1982-1985 to be in the newer format over the next few days.
Def Leppard - It Could Be You (live 1979) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSY1U0pznZY
>>128676676Well into his 70s? I doubt it, since that would mean he was in his 30s already in the early 80s.But he is not totally wrong, Raven and Venom already had label backup and were more established acts, although Metallica were coming up fast and were already hot in the circles of metalheads, plus it was a usa tour where people would know them and appreciate them equally.
>>128677167Aren't there two mixes? One european and one US?
>>128679119Kiss, obviously
>>128683213No European exclusive mix, but there is two different pressings of the CD.
>>128679119Aerosmith - Rocks Obviouslyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvodHi2_FoQ&list=RDpvodHi2_FoQ&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze6h1t7Z734&list=RDZe6h1t7Z734&start_radio=1
>>128683202Well, then e had some hard miles on him. Didn't their first few albums come out in the 70s?
>>128683518>Didn't their first few albums come out in the 70s?The band itself has existed since 1974, their first full-length was released in '81.
>>128683522John Gallagher (born Oct 8th, 1958)Okay. My interactions with him would have been 6 or 7 years ago, which would have made him around 60. Hard miles indeed.
Def Leppard - Live in Lausanne, Switzerland (December 5, 1981)https://files.catbox.moe/trhym1.rar (complete)https://files.catbox.moe/wusd42.rar (incomplete, better sound)1. On Through the Night2. It Could Be You3. It Don't Matter4. Another Hit and Run5. Lady Strange6. Rock Brigade7. High 'n' Dry8. Let It Go9. Wasted
Redoing the 1982 chart atm, any suggestions for the last three slots?
>>128684363Iron Fist
>>128684559It's on there now, normally I'd wait for someone to second a suggestion but 1982 just doesn't have as much to work with as '83 did
decent album but there's no standouts, only thing i found particularly interesting was the sound, which is like late '70s JP mixed with AC/DC. it's pretty neat.
>>128662283>>128662445>>128662445>Light Up The SkyKiller song. they slayed it livehttps://youtu.be/PtxY3Y5hl2A?si=tiwiqh58dC5Uf6DK&t=47
>>128686914Holy crap, that rendition's pretty much speed metal.
I know that everyone jizzes over Operation Mindcrime, but I still like The Warning and Empire better.
>>128684363I don't think many people know the Demon cover is the front of a bodybuilder's torso
>>128683283I am quite sure there exist two mixes, both findable on youtube
>>128671666>that getSo much for the knights in satan's service.
>>128671446>Maybe if you're 12 lol>>128671471>Well you can say that for pretty much any KISS song ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Do people that age even listen to KISS? Outside of stuff like I was made for loving you (its a nice song but it is more disco than rock apparently).
>>128671274the version of war machine on the album was slightly trimmed down in length. here's the original uncut version:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0-euuXaL97U
>>128687551I think this is the Metal Blade mix. Sounds much rawer than the one I’m familiar with. https://youtu.be/dajbRrjQp5U?si=8g4G344vWd4lJZGd
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SCeP5rtoyEU"This is the Skin"The album got poor/mixed reviews, but this kinda title song is cool. I haven't really listened to the rest tho.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thickskinhttps://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Skid_Row/Thickskin/578117https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/skid-row/thickskin/https://www.allmusic.com/album/thickskin-mw0000599077On the subhuman race album (and on this song) skid row is pretty close to groove metal though.
Skid row's "Subhuman race" album is kinda an acquired taste. Maybe you could compare it to angry machines by Dio, which also takes getting used to.Ok, idk if acquired taste means something is good or you just brainwashed yourself into being able to listen to it....
>>128689876I never cared for it personally. Grunge-y groove metal just isn’t what I want out of Skid Row and the songs weren’t that good, either.
anyways this is much different than their first album. No glam left here:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl9Vs43ca54I think the "subhuman race" of the titular song is probably being a wagie. It's like the phrase rat race. Basically a similar theme to the titular Slave to the grind from their 2nd album.>Jesus, he knows the story, he knows the position that I'm in>A hooker knows the feelin' to get fucked the way I've been>Turn my insides out, your mouth drank my water>you you look at me like I'm subhuman>you you talk to me like I'm subhuman>you you're treatin' me like I'm subhuman,>you are jumpin' into the subhuman racehttps://genius.com/Skid-row-subhuman-race-lyrics
Riot - Live (Fire Down Under tour, 1981) https://youtu.be/61c6FBDszM4?si=aaX5eA6flmgY4M_gThey just fucking shred it, dude. Especially that drummer. He goes full on ballistic in the title track.
>>128689883>I never cared for it personally. Grunge-y groove metal just isn’t what I want out of Skid Row and the songs weren’t that good, either.You mightnot like Angry Machines either, since a decent chunk of it is Dio doing groove/doom metal.
>>128689883did you prefer the first or second skid row album? I thought some songs like firesign were pretty good.
>>128690005Slave to the Grind is my favorite of the two, their debut’s good but it’s got some filler.>I thought some songs like foreign were pretty good.It’s been a while since I listened it tbdesu, I might give it another shot when I get back to my computer this weekend
>>128689521I listened to Kiss when I was 7-8.>>128689918Sounded tight. As with many other bands, I think that the constant line-up changes when they were in the beginning of their careers hurt them, so they never became more than a cult band.>>128689961>since a decent chunk of it is Dio doing groove/doom metal.It's also the second album with Dio sounding angry (third if you count Dehumanizer).
>>128690310>It's also the second album with Dio sounding angry (third if you count Dehumanizer).I haven't listened to dehumanizer yet, but its also more experimental or less mainstream than strange highways
>>128690369I wouldn't call Strange Highways mainstream. But it's basically Dehumanizer Part II.I don't remember Angry Machines at all, except angry, gravel voice Dio.
>>128690310>I listened to Kiss when I was 7-8.Same. Not much after that though.
Oh he says "son of a milacka" in Tribal Dance, not son of a milacka. Damn it's a good album, Symbol of Salvation, blasting it now
>>128660557Wow, that was fucking sick. All killer, no filler, excellent pacing, great vocals. I only wish it was longer.
>>128693760Yeah. It's hard to name a better rock album vocally. The leads, the backups. The melodies. All of it is stellar. Fun Fact: Producer Mutt Lange made Joe Elliot physically cry real tears during the recording of Pyromania. The proof is in the pudding.
>>128687004pretty much. could be said they were the progentitors of both speed metal and hair metal...imagine going to see durge-y Sabbath and this comes on first-https://youtu.be/98pfx1B5LVQ?si=iKdLjrkzH6vWX51b&t=38
>>128693824I mean, everything I said applies to pyromania too but I was referring to picrel, kek
>>128693837imagine how fun that tour must have been with Sabbath showing the new kids how to out debauch each other lol
>>128692216>Oh he says "son of a milacka" in Tribal Dance, not son of a milacka. Yeah its a line from the chorus. not the name of the song if thats what you thought.>Damn it's a good album, Symbol of Salvation, blasting it nowI think the best track is probably Reign of Fire.
>>128661930>scorps had some cool lp art man>>128661953>In what ways?>>128662019>in every fucking way except for wearing make upThey also had a very questionable album art.
>>128691968Exactly.
>>128694985That is a mad picture
>>128684363did 3 songs get removed or something?
>>128684363Huh, wikipedia has a page about metal albums released that year:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_in_heavy_metal_musicI wouldn't assume it's complete though.
Scorpions - Dark Lady (live 1977) https://youtu.be/KbiDYrKPe8s?si=rZRhakrUAs2xCtKdJust a really, really good version of a classic Scorps song. There’s also a great rendition of Robot Man from around the same time, too. https://youtu.be/JgJSd004z5c?si=gQlM-6Xfro8MO0N2
Skid Row - Forever https://youtu.be/j42dpMvd2Bo?si=uJCBW1KEEd3wuwb5Clears a lot of the material on the debut, Bach’s vocals are less restrained, and would’ve been one of the more metallic tunes had it been included. Give it a listen!
>>128698989It was probably 4x4 before or something.
>>128660467Uli Jon Roth Scorpions only!https://youtu.be/IEdOOLOARYo?si=R-PWWB1FnwujcNsg
>>128674411its my favorite VH track
>>128700310Nice. Good song. But even as an ESL, I don't think the lyrics don't flow.
Fun sex songs.
Predatory sex songs.
Haven't heard the demos yet but so far this is their worst content imo.
Which mix of the 'Life Among the Ruins' album is better?https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=mgqfGWz4UzE>Sex Religion Machinehttps://music.youtube.com/watch?v=WKf6niLvcPA >Sex Religion Machine (Previously unreleased New York Mix)
>>128702136The original sounds much better. The New York mix sounds muffled and lifeless to me.
>>128701097The Tokyo Tapes version of this is probably my personal favorite song. Fucking magical, everything about it.https://youtu.be/YZ1fKa6YIdM?si=bTE5rJ_DOrq10VQ_
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>>128705417WHY ARE YOU YELLING
>>128702074>delicate european sensitivities >a wolf sniffing around your door isnt predatorylolDLR WAS the partyI KNOW A LAST LOOSE END! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGbb8-j1Suo
https://youtu.be/WkXAAHDIN7U?t=12
Yngwie really pushed the bar. Him and Randy Rhoads before him.
https://youtu.be/5IDNY2mvnDc?t=246Crushing riff under the solo. This band exemplifies the kind of heavy metal I like. I never felt much for the "rocking" monotonous pentatonic type.
>>128706610
>>128706033that tune rips...
Is there any metal that's like this but without the stupid growling? Or is that basically Falconer? Anything more?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSWEQfB5rlY
>>128706728>>128706747Van Halen were lazy song writers.
>>128709205lol. ok
>>128709598Tons of covers, interludes and instrumentals on their first 6 albums.
>>128709667>terrible copeAll great. What's the problem? The vast majority of their songs were not covers. But they started out as a cover band so its in their DNA. Why do you let that bother you? just enjoy the music...
>>128709667https://youtu.be/sL9ZwmkooBA?si=3a6DGRC3aOCDInZHSome pretty fuckin' good covers doe
>>128695939>They also had a very questionable album art.Didn't they have a album where it had a naked 12 year old girl on it?
>>128712355
>>128709743Not a problem. Just stating a fact. They were kind of lazy song writers.
Back at my computer now, just finished the redone 1982 chart and will do 1983's tomorrow.>>128698989MSG - Assault Attack didn't make the cut this time. Black Tiger was an album an anon originally suggested so I put it here.
>>128712355yes that's the one i was talking about.
The exagerated caricatures of the band on the artwork looks weird. But Primal Scream is a nice song.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhT1AKxn2FgKinda silly, but one of the riffs reminds me of My name is mud by primus.
>>128660467>1970s: https://files.catbox.moe/xe7h8x.png>>128714396I wonder how hard it would be to create expanded recommendation lists for the 70's
Is there any good Finnish trad in honour of the day?
>>128716573
>>128660557This one never gets old. It's like a dirtier, more aggressive version of On Through The Night
>>128718139Nice.
>>128660467b
>>128714088>They were kind of lazy song writers>Quanity over quality is bettersure thing bro.
>>128715128>I wonder how hard it would be to create expanded recommendation lists for the 70'sNot hard, but I need more albums from 70-74 in order to expand it. A lot of these I was going to put on that chart but didn't have enough room:Alkana - Welcome to My ParadiseBlue Oyster Cult - Tyranny and MutationBow Wow - Signal FireDeep Purple - BurnGillan - Mr. Universe Kiss - Kiss (suggestion)Legend - From the Fjords Montrose - Montrose? Motorhead - BomberRiot - NaritaSaxon - SaxonScorpions - Virgin KillerScorpions - Lovedrive Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak Thin Lizzy - Black Rose: A Rock Legend (never listened to this one but it's considered their best release by pretty much everyone)UFO - No Heavy PettingUFO - Lights Out?Van Halen - Van Halen II
>>128721120Why not Van Halen 1 ?or Rush's debut from 74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaLKrsqbyEk
>>128721181>Why not Van Halen 1 ?Because it's already on there lol>or Rush's debut from 74That could work, but if I put their debut on the chart then I'm putting 2112 on it too. Speaking of which, I should probably get around to listening to that (and A Farewell to Kings + Hemispheres)
>>128721120Budgie? Budgiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54H3EUAzpVg
>When I asked him to name his five best solos, he struggled, but he said that someone had recently pointed out to him that he plays a good solo in “The Oath,” so he was happy with that—but it's Paul Stanley who plays it. Ace may have been thinking about when they performed “The Oath” live on the TV show “Fridays” in 1982 and he took the solo, but I doubt it.>It shows how little he reflected on what he had actually done.
>>128721265Never Turn Your Back on a Friend is already on there, but I could add In For the Kill!
>>128709667>>128721277>In For the Kill!Van Halen is just a cover band manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zvUzzpZk2I
Here's what I got for 1970-1974
>>128721120Do you Leslie? Mountain? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEnF6EB-yMs
>>128721368I'll think about that one
>>128721383heres an interesting list:https://fastnbulbous.com/favorite-1970s-hard-rock-and-heavy-metal/
Revised, also because 1975-1979 has like twice the amount of great releases I'm just separating 70-74 and 75-79 into different charts
now for 1975-1979
wait fuck alive is from 1975 DAMN IT
Bang's debut has been added in lieu of Alive X_X
Title track was one of the best things I've ever heard. Rest of the album's damn good, too.
Done!
>>128723208For me, it's The Twilight Zone
Redid the '83 chart earlier, replaced Bark at the Moon with All For One since I think that album's more deserving of being here
Oh yeah and Motorhead replaced Power & the Glory
>>128722123>>128723759>>128728026Nice
>>128722123I'd include the Granicus album from 1973.
>>128729429Only seen their debut while browsing RYM, but this guy sort of looks like James Hetfield
>>128729429>>128729467Huh, that's pretty obscure:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granicus_(band)https://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/granicus/granicus
>>128661930>scorps had some cool lp art man[spoiler]it's their best album btw[/spoiler]
>>128730991no spoiler tags on /mu/
>>128671666The fuck am i looking at>Knights In Satan's Service get
>>128731098>The fuck am i looking atTwo cool guys, obviously B)
>>128679119Been a while but I realized Pentagram could be what you're looking for. They even covered "Under My Thumb"
>>128730991I wouldn't say it's their best but it's pretty freakin' underrated
Twisted Sister - The Power and the Glory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyVtQQLT4L0One of their more underrated cuts, some USPM energy here too
>>128687532kek
>>128723759Never Say Die should be on here. Controversial perhapsalso that Gillan cover is based kek
>>128734146I thought about including it but I haven't listened to that one yet and I thought Let There Be Rock was a better fit desu
PANAMAPAN-A-MA-HA
listen to Hard Stuff - Bulletproof (1972), absolute God tier album, all rocking no pussy ballads, they were linked to Atomic Rooster through John Du Cann, sadly unheralded and forgotten guitar legend, whole album ripshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LGWnBSMnMc
>>128734781Downloading now
I like metal ballads
need moar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWVET0PvbCoI JUDGE ALL DAY AND GIVE YOU THE PISSWHERE'S MY FUCKING EQUAL THIS GANG IS A MESS(TO GLANTON) KNOW YOUR FUCKING ROLE AND CLEAN THIS SCALPGIRD THE FUCKING HORSES AND SHUT YOUR MOUTHYOU REALLY MAKE ME FUCKING JUDGESCRUB THE SAND YOU WORTHLESS MEXICANWHY THE FUCK AM I EVEN WITH YOUI GUESS YOU LIKE IT WHEN I JUDGE YOUI AM THE KID JUDGERI AM THE KID JUDGER (I WON'T STOP TILL THIS TOWN GETS CLEANER)I AM THE KID JUDGERI AM THE KID JUDGER (RIDING ON JUST MAKES ME MEANER)THIS IS MY HEIGHT THIS IS MY WEIGHTGET OFF YOUR ASS AND MAKE ME SOME CLOTHESAND WHEN YOU'RE ALL DONE I'M JUDGING WHAT'S MINEI'M GONNA DRAGOON YOU AND LEAVE YOU BEHINDYOU REALLY MAKE ME FUCKING JUDGESCRUB THE SAND YOU WORTHLESS MEXICANWHY THE FUCK AM I EVEN WITH YOUI GUESS YOU LIKE IT WHEN I JUDGE YOUI AM THE KID JUDGERI AM THE KID JUDGER (I WON'T STOP TILL THIS TOWN GETS CLEANER)I AM THE KID JUDGERI AM THE KID JUDGER (RIDING ON JUST MAKES ME MEANER)JUDGE THAT BITCH UP
>>128735252kek'd
>>128731007
any other suggestions?
thin lizzy is the best hard rock band
>>128737571>TONIGHT THERE'S GONNA BE A JAILBREAK>SOMEWHERE IN THIS TOWN
This record is already really, really fucking good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2lxk1Vef60
Narrowly beats out Bad Reputation as my favorite Thin Lizzy album (so far).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAP8eVOxcMIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9xT8p6L8Schttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QECND7ZnLBwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVBPQmu4GzIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjjpBb9q1PA
>>128733807There's a saxon song with a nearly identical name.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCAD95i5IU
>>128738564And both of them came out in 1983 lol. Riot - The Altar of the King also has that phrase in one of the verses
BODY TALK BODY TALK BODY TALKhttps://youtu.be/lv2c4rwcoRk?si=VsmBjJPKcn0AGh-V
>>128738600RATT really should've went in a heavier, faster direction then what they ended up pursuing. They were REALLY good at making quick, electrifying metal the few times they did ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZtskauWqkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_TAHElTp3g
I am quickly becoming a fan of this band, so far every single Lizzy album I've checked out has just been blissful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmvZo1pbXshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZHej4vX6ug (the fucking guitar harmonies)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFtD3iqBodMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1kKdK3qUB8
>>128735425no but I'll +1 Volcanic Rock that album rocks big time
>>128739821Shylock is a very heavy song for 1973https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1z4bdu8GxA
Any ideas for where we can temporarily move to during the maintenance? I was thinking of 28 since its layout is pretty much identical to 4chan
>>128735425Amon Duul II - Wolf CityAsh Ra Tempel - SchwingungenBeck Bogert & Appice s/tBlue Oyster Cult - Tyranny and MutationHawkwind - A Space RitualMott the Hoople - Brain CapersPhoenix - Mugur de fluierPink Fairies - Kings of OblivionRobin Trower - Bridge of SighsPopulation II was already in there right?Props for including Bang. Great great band.
>>128740880>Blue Oyster Cult - Tyranny and MutationOn there already, will write down the rest>Population II was already in there right?Yeah>Props for including Bang. Great great band.I haven't listened to the debut in a while but it was really cool. Like a 50/50 blend of Zeppelin and Sabbath, vocalist reminded me a lot of Rob Plant
I listened to Kiss - Unmasked and Dynasty tonight and came to the conclusion that there's no way Paul Stanley isn't a closeted homosexual.
As great as Marcolin is, I slightly prefer the vocals on EDM. I really like Johan's timbre, it really sounds "metallic" and he was super good at wailing. The wailing before and after the solo in this song gives me chills. The sheer anguish conveyed here is awesome.https://youtu.be/FawOq5fXUW0?si=766nkyHkdZwHSkf6
>>128744216always thought it was fun how there's a lisp on the intro narration to Demon's Gate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prs94rwlFms
Shorter downtime than I expected>>128660557
Fuck forgot my image lol
>>128745005Never realized that lol. I thought it was the filter that just goofed up his voice.Also, that's a really cool intro. I love the use of synths on this album. That bridge in "under the oak" and the outro of "a sorcerer's pledge" are really cool too (even if the latter's female choral vocals kinda reach cheesy overkill territory)
Stray - Suicide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T4iIJqCQ3gEarly heavy metal with some really scuzzy guitarwork and a raucous break in the middle with some fast riffing for 1971.
Holy shit this was incredible. New personal favorite.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYVqWHzlO5ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCSkq9Z_hKchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eknXKzJtmRMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqrD2I4d-3khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKcub0Dirgw
>>128745381holy shit dude how i haven't heard this yet
>>128746071These guys did some cool shit for the early '70s. I've only listened to their first two albums but they're fucking great.Stray - Jericho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT1LSrDW5KM
Kino album, there's some heavy fucking shit herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPIxB-RDanIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gURiVS2cpJg
W.A.S.P.Vi Ar Satans Pipel
>>128747063We Are Sadistic Perverts
Alright so after a few hours of deliberation and listening to a couple albums, here's what I got. If you want anything changed, now would be the time to make a suggestion
Brothers of true metalProud and standing tall!
>>128660467Whats some good bands that started in the 70s that got heavier as the 80s progressed, kind of like Satan's Host but never going extreme metal?
>>128747648KISS (for two albums)RiotThin Lizzy And if you want to include late '60s, Budgie as well
OH and Cirith Ungol as well, forgot about them lol
>>128674595>That outtro is straight firebased and Michael Anthonypilled
These are really fun to make. Took a crack at making this one themed after Awaken the Guardian, and I think it came out pretty fucking good. As for the two additions, I put up The Mentors (because it's unique and unlike everything else here, nice variety) and the Turbo album.
>>128747659Already listen to most of those. Give me deep cuts.
>>128749826Killer (Belgium, pretty sure they were late '70s)Krokus for a brief period Heavy Load but you've probably listened to themPicture (Netherlands, early speed metal)ThorAnd that's about all I can think of. Most of the bands I've listened to started early on in the '80s.
All I have left to do now is update 1984 and 1985's charts. Don't think I'll be doing that tonight, though.
Dokken - Bullets to Spare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiAK2eqM2Cg
>>128747552My uncle who has frontal lobe dementia used to walk up to everyone and say "heavy metal or no metal at all" over and over again because he didn't remember doing it 10 minutes before.
>>128751135There needs to be a serious study about headbanging and CTE.
Imagine how far they could've gotten
>>128751135Both funny and sad
pumpkin
>>128693760Samefagging but this song rules. It's stuck in my head.Liege Lord - Transgressor https://youtu.be/ZI3nlrNusBA?si=85K3TRZXsHDVRXtl
>>128660467>STAND BY FOR EXCITER
>>128754942>SALVATION IS HIS TASK
While much of this album isn't all that memorable, it's still worth listening to from a historical standpoint as this is one of the first records that actually has more than one speed metal song. Their followup release pushes the speed threshold even more, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-XEa4OfyVghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXaSPQFqvv4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJELaIGQZRI
>>128747648I'm not familiar with their entire catalog but Faithful Breath started off as a prog rock band in the 70s but changed their name to Risk and did speed metal and thrash metal in the 80s, they had the same singer the entire time.https://youtu.be/4JmKamoFxQwhttps://youtu.be/USBmN6oy4tAhttps://youtu.be/P33_C9ltPU0https://youtu.be/jhluzvwZd1Mhttps://youtu.be/cIysu0oHShghttps://youtu.be/eIkNG_bKAc4
>>128749826Just remembered a band. Check out these guys, they started out in the early '70s as a rock outfit then shifted to straightforward heavy metal in the early '80s. https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mass/28149
Cool EP, like a dirtier; more raw Judas Priest. Magic has some early thrash riffing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPxLDHQrS3c
Been listening to a lot of Rainbow lately.
>>128756026Based. Any particular albums or songs? I tend to revisit Tarot Woman and Catch the Rainbow.
>>128756037s/t, Rising, and LLRNR
>>128756048Expected, but they're creme of the crop. I usually spin the self-titled above the other two because I've listened to it less, feels more fresh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coZVchUjb64
hooray
Not metal but Catch The Rainbow is a beautiful song
>>128756282To be fair most ballads by metal bands aren't even metal. There's a few that are, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL8mUIBWVRY
>>128756336Reminds me a LOOOOOOT of this: https://youtu.be/pHgLJ99r5l4?si=NF8EZYe8u9cWgWYUI love that intro. Feels like something out of a space western.On the topic of Crimson Glory, this one is also great: https://youtu.be/QQ5P_VYMrG8?si=koRLpQa_Qh7PdNkT
>>128756376Goddamn I forgot how good Painted Skies is, like a Queensryche ballad/epic on steroids.
Might be a bit specific but does anyone have metal that uses the hammond organ? Only band that comes to my mind is Deep Purple. I think it sounds cool.Bonus points if it's overdriven like in this song. Sounds even cooler https://youtu.be/OLB7JYl34y4?si=xn5Geji9yf6vpsk0
>>128756656Genocide out of Utah, sadly they only got one album out before splitting up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJXcrQJaxA>Only band that comes to my mind is Deep Purple. I think it sounds cool.There's also some metal Uriah Heep songs, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCxwx0J-_14https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4JAUCRQ9_ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4opvyD57DA
>>128756281Very nice, very nice. But no RtL is criminal.
>>128756656Rainbow uses it extensively on their first 2 records. Can't name specific songs, but they're there.
>>128756844It was originally in the personal favorites row but I removed it because I wanted to make room for Brocas Helm and the Savatage EP in the main rows. I could remove Warlock, though
>>128728055>Oh yeah and Motorhead replaced Power & the Glory>>128733807>Twisted Sister - The Power and the Glory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyVtQQLT4L0 [Embed]>>128738564>There's a saxon song with a nearly identical name.>>128738577>And both of them came out in 1983 lol. Riot - The Altar of the King also has that phrase in one of the versesMy guess is they might be a reference to this novel or to the prayer the novel references:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_and_the_Glory
>>128756698another metal uriah heep song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5nj0FtwC_QWake the sleeper
>>128756336>To be fair most ballads by metal bands aren't even metal. There's a few that are, though.I think those are sometimes called power ballads?Thoug that includes hard rock as well.
Yaaaaaay. All of the charts are now up-to-date. (1984's now has Ride the Lightning but since all of the charts are done I'm making a pastebin and putting it in the next thread's OP)
NEW: >>128757152
>>128756862Personal favorite? It's an objective classic though I can understand how it might be too obvious. Maybe not to someone totally new to metal though.
>>128756976>that TS songHow is this any less metal than JP - Rapid Fire?https://youtu.be/FoA8OxjxSrw?t=40
