Genuinely how do I make my taste less RYM-y? How do you people find really good music that isn't the same basic white guy p4k/RYM pre-approved shit?
i go on sputnik and look for albums with less than 50 ratings
>>128701715Listen to more Mongolian music.
>>128701715https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swXerd-HkVs
>>128701715Oh my god, how sickening. I think im gonna puke. I swear, is there a factory pumping these people out somewhere?Kid, you need a personality of your own asap. But anyway it’s pretty obvious, you see this list of artists and albums you liked? Look into who their contemporaries were, listen to their music, and look up what bands influenced the ones you listed, and boom, there’s a whole bunch of other good bands. Not to mention many of these artists have various other side projects and associations worth looking into.
>>128701719how do i sort by number of ratings on that site
>>128701785:(
>>128701785browse by genre and just click around, check out peoples profiles
>>128701715Here are some good lists based on your chart. >krautrockhttps://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=17&top=100>proghttps://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1>idm/ambient/technohttps://www.discogs.com/lists/Caj%C3%B3n-de-sastre-IDMDowntempoAmbientAmbient-TechnoMinimalAbstractDubDeep-House/1412782>Post-Punkhttps://rateyourmusic.com/list/Jake_Schultz/a-new-kind-of-water/I think you should listen to at lest 50 different artists in each genre you like instead of just going for only the most popular artists. You will naturally get less boring tastes by doing so.
>>128701715I have the opposite "problem", I don't like most of the highly rated music on RYM, how do you do it ? easy as hell, since what sits on top is complete garbage, spiderland ? The Glow ? = utter shit.
>>128701715You could start by having some curiosity and criteria.
>>128701715Find a record you actually like and then dig through the credits of the people that worked on it. Alternatively, find a record label you like and listen to everything they released.
>>128701840PT.2- seriously, what people hear in crap like Swans ? it's just a vacuum cleaner, Geogaddi/Heaven or Las Vegas = more noise, about as exciting as listening to Christmas lights music effects.
>>128701840The Glow is one of the few actually good records on there. Most other are mid or one of the inferior works of the artist in question.
>>128701882I'd say the top 5 best out of that chart would be : Low, Crimson King, Loveless, Animals, White Album.
>>128701924ITCOTCK is either the worst or second worst KC album thoughbeit.
>toy with RYM's chart feature. Sort by genres, year range, release type, descriptors, etc.>read RYM lists. Check what lists a band/album is on, check the other music on those lists>follow reviewers with interesting taste or who are able to talk about music beyong "it's good/bad and has XYZ superficial elements">check out a musician's other bands, projects, contributions, etc.>check listeners' charts (>>128698947) or other collections of music recsThis reply >>128701750 is probably written by a clanker, but is correct that trying a band's contemporaries or their influences helps.also try listening to more King Crimson if you haven't
>>128701715Listen to more music by the bands in ur picrel, listen to every major artist from 66-99, listen to a bunch of random shit like if you see a cool looking album cover listen to as much if the album as you can stomach.You can larp crate digging by going to a record store, picking records you think you would buy, then go home and stream them
>>128701715have you tried having more sides to your personality than nerdy emo?
>>128701750This. Though none of these albums are bad. But yeah just branch out from cure if you like that style of post-punk etc
>>128701715What program have you used to edit that picture ?
you go through Scaruffi's website so your taste can get more scaruffey
>>128701715start by listening to Merzbow, Boredoms, the Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean-Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze and Kaoru Abe
>>128701715put names you like into discogs and go down the ever increasing number of rabbit holes until all the holes have turned into a giant one because everything is connected
>>128704691https://topsters.org/
>>128701750>Kid, you need a personality of your own asapyour mistake is thinking that liking obscure music is a personalityOP if you genuinely like those albums then it's nothing to be ashamed of. They're popular because they're good.
>>128701715Just dive deeper. All of these are great albums, but if you’ve really immersed yourself in them enough to stick them on here, you should be seeking out more similar music. Is Tago Mago really the only krautrock you like? Spiderland the only post-rock? Downward Spiral the only industrial? See, the albums I’ve actually heard on your chart are all great, but it’s about forming specific interests.
>>128705660thank you so much brother, god bless you
>>128705688Those albums are only popular in a certain context. Your average person has never heard of Drive Like Jehu or Glenn Branca.
>>128701715Like everyone has said, just dig deeper. You have spiderland and Yank Crime here, so I assume you like post-hardcore. So spend a month or two, or however long you want, just exploring post-hardcore. Or if, because you like Loveless and Heaven or Las Vegas, you want to get into Shoegaze, you can do that too. Overall though I wouldn’t really be stressed out about it, after years of music listening you know what you like, and if what you like is “rym-core,” so be it. Your music taste is still better and more unique than 99% of the world.
>>128701715>Flow Chartshttps://4chanmusic.miraheze.org/wiki/Flowcharts>The Patrician Chartshttps://rateyourmusic.com/list/BlaireCoucher/_mu-essential-patriciancore/Don't forget to interact with people on /shugazi/, /bleep/, /prog/, chart threads, etc to find some nice recs
>>128705170Its better to read a good book a thousand times than to read a thousand mid books. Same with music. Its better to focus on a few artists and really dig deep into their style than to force yourself to listen to a million albums just because of fomo
>>128706415*A thousand good books
>>128701715>AscensionTry Rhys Chatham. Also dig deeper into more modern and post-modern classical.
>>128706415Are you insinuating that the copypasta is all "mid" musicians? Your newfag is showing.
>>128706647there's a handful of good artists there
>>128701840Yeah, I feel this. I listen to something highly rated on RYM and generally wind up feeling totally unwhelmed and bored. So I’ll defer back to fun, albeit stupid, music. It shouldn’t bother me because you like what you like, but I do feel insecure that I might be stupid.
>>128701715This is just a very Art Rock dominated chart, I suppose try listening to other genres more? RYM core is actually very unadventurous when you step back and look at it.
>>128701715Take every album on your chartThen find out what those artists were listening to when they made all those albums you likeOnce you develop a taste for the artists who inspired your current favorite albums, repeat the process by finding out who influenced themRepeat this process 3-4 times until you inevitably become a big fan of classical musicThen you can stop and chill because at that point you’ve graduated into adulthood.
>>128705688his taste in music doesnt say anything other than "im trying to fit in on RYM". its inorganic to the extreme. its looks more like someone wrote a script than the music an actual person would listen to
>>128701715I grew up in the 2000s and didn't use /mu/ until the 2020s.My taste was thoroughly steeped in the teenage alt scene of the 2nd half of the 2000s.Faux-elitists ran a smear campaign against that stuff for 2 decades now so you've been falsely conditioned not to even attempt to rediscover music most people already knew was good. MCR, Deftones, and Linkin Park are examples of acts that managed to slip through the cracks of limpdick /mu/core gatekeeping though and should be proof enough to people who rightfully hate this impotent shlock that there's a world of worth beyond what RYM and Anthony tell you to listen to.So the answer to your question is to stop believing that /mu/core and its adherents are the ultimate or even legitimate authorities who are correct about what they've censured to you hitherto. Once you shake off their lies you'll have an open mind ready to receive the stuff you're missing out on.
>>128709050This.
>>128706943People who overrated cRap, especially trash like tpab/kendrick are the real stupid mindless herd, very often a teen/wigger >>128709050 True, a lot of RYM's core is boring/impotent slop, for people who think Radiohead, BCNR, and kendrick, are some sort of "holy trinity" people rate acclaimed albums higher than they enjoyed, just to fit in, and appear "cultured" (emperor's new clothes) same reason they rate a lot of singles etc... just to increase their number of ratings to 10k, it's all pretentious wankers jerking each other, cringe af.
>>128706667They're all good buddy you just got filtered
>>128701715>A bunch of great albums.What's the problem here?
>>128701959>thoughbeitWhy do I keep seeing this word all of a sudden? Did it go viral on TickTock?
>>128711844>Why do I keep seeing this word all of a sudden?because you're painfully new
Get the fuck off that site if you want to be a real person.
>>128701715emulating early 2010s /mu/ isnt a personality
>>128712188Its funny how this is called RYM core now when it was /mu/core originally
>>128701715Will never understand how some plp have such a hard time finding music. You try music outside the anglo world and your usual genres, a good bunch of the musicians you like, listen to music outside their native language and their main music genre
>>128712226because 2020s /mu/ talks about dadrock and kpop
>>128712226Mucore, pitchfork and rym were the same shit
>>128712226because /mu/core successfully gaslit the internet music fanbase into considering it the canon, and RYM is just the largest music discourse platform outside of /mu/-over-the-years. The Library At Alexandria has been safed away to a new home after the polis's decline.
>>1287123212020s /mu/ somehow got colonized by unironic boomers and xers, probably spilloff from their /pol/ usage and the evacuation of the hipster millennials who used to occupy the board.
>>128712275Listening to music is time-consuming and consuming uninspiring or repulsive music is demoralizing. Finding exceptional music is indeed extraordinarily difficult.
shoot for depth, not breadth>>128705688>liking obscure music is a personalitynobody actually thinks thisremember, this is a music discussion community. "I just like the commonly-agreed-upon best thing from every style!" is far worse than pretentious hipster faggotry here, because the pretentious hipster faggot has a real chance of introducing something new and good into the discussion while the RYMdrone does not.
>>128709050I remember my older sister listening to Linkin Park when I was twelve and all I could think was "holy shit this is gay and embarrassing"
>>128702368>>toy with RYM's chart feature. Sort by genres, year range, release type, descriptors, etc.this is what i do. rym trannies may be manhandling the website to their will to add all these retarded ass genres, but they sure do help you find weird niche music.
>>128713417probably because you have the emotional depth of a puddle
Listen to a shitload of trash you've never heard of, eventually you'll find something good.
>>128713405>you need to get a personality of your own
if a band has a good album but you only listen to 1 or 2 songs on repeat i'm not so sure you like the band, is usually my criticism of RYMcore or even mucore. and yes i know they are compulsive people who repeat pretty much anything.
>>128714029"get a personality [because you're just aping 'best of' lists] of your own" does not imply that liking obscure music is itself a personality, don't be insecurethe point is that someone with developed personality and a modicum of agency will naturally find a number of styles / artists they enjoy and lean into them>>128713513nah that shit was always gay man sorrymy buddy's mom accidentally left an X cd in her car and I thought it was awesome. still do
