Miles Davis was REALLY cool. I'm racist, but damn he was cool
>>128722317its ok. he was racist too.
>>128722317based
If Miles Davis is cool then call me peeing my pants
>>128722337Only for a bit then he stopped like a normie
>>128722317This is now a jazz threadPost good jazz songshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwIC6B_dvW4
>>128722317sorry, "I would spend last minute on earth choking a white man' or however the quote goes sounds too much like butthurt. butthurt is never cool.
>>128722488https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jnqz62d9oM&list=RD0Jnqz62d9oM&start_radio=1
>>128722527he said that in an interview as a troll and was smirking when he said it, newfaggot. i'll post the link if i can find it
>>128722337poc cant be racist fuck off back to pol chud
>>128722650>>>/r/ope
>>128722650definitely not a false flagger
https://youtu.be/3c9zSAVWKEsjoe henderson wrote this song when he was 15 years old. how many 15 year olds write jazz standards?
>>128723063he was never my favorite, not even when he played with alice trane or sanders
>>128723156I was going to say something but>alice>sandersok anon whatever floats your boat.
>>128722317are you the same guy who makes these "black music used to be good" threads?
he only got cooler with age
>>128723237say it pussy. and stop jumping to conclusions, i like mal waldron and dexter gordon way more than those two, i just brought them up because jazz threads often mention their collabs
>>128722317same
>>128722337Hardly. Wouldn't you hate white people too if you were a black man in the 50s?
>>128722619sorry, trolling about killing others isn't cool.if some white musician said same about a black guy, they'd be immediately strung up.(if he wants to express his bitterness towards whites because of what happened to him in past, that's fine ........ but the premise was this dude was so cool and knew how to express such emotions in some kind of forceful but still civilized manner, and he obviously major failed.)verdict: not cool, but cold-hearted.
>>128723374>mal waldron and dexter gordonwhat era?
>>128726643>trolling about killing others isn't cool.yes it is, low t faggotstopped reading there btw
>>128726746for waldron late 50s, for gordon early 60s, but i thoroughly enjoy the majority of their work
>>128726643Your victimhood is showing
60s niggerslop
>>128728828wtf I love niggers now
>>128722488https://youtu.be/xhn9iihU5ME?si=zm-ECd3ChMLH_hxT
>>128722317He was from a wealthy family, so he was basically white.
>>128722488Beautiful playing by Miles and Red Garlandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8UkDE8mJbk
has anyone actually been to a concert where they can hear the bass player like this? https://youtu.be/WdJgra4ItOQ
>>128722337Performative racist. He had no problem working with white musicians if they were good.
>>128728673and you don't think Joe Henderson's style is super fresh compared to anything before it? he invented or at least crystallized a new sound on the saxophone that became the standard from then on, and was part of a wave that did the same to composition arrangement.
>>128731396>Performative racistWhat an interesting concept
>>128731441for real, I'm considering a career switchCarnegie Hall, here I come
>>128723310>becomes a womandidnt know he was a trans trailblazer
>>128731094how could someone that dark have grown up rich?did they lie to us about how racist USA was pre-civil rights?
>>128731433no i dont
>>128734697yes they lied to you, it was even worse than you were taught. if you don't know what a racial covenant is, then that proves it.
>>128734838see that's why i decided not to say it, i could tell
>>128734919this timidity explains your taste
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daily reminder racism is just friendship simulator for social outcasts and unfunny loners
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>>128735040YWNBAW
>>128735047Good.
>>128735063Being anti-racist won't stop Tyrone from hating you or help you get laid
>projecting this hard
>>128734697In segregation, talented black people didn't have to compete with even more talented whites.They had black policemen, black lawyers, and black doctors who worked exclusively for black communities. They didn't make as much money as whites, but a good surgeon could still make a very good living.
>>128734953it wasn't timidity it was an attempt to not waste my effort, that's sadly the price to pay to sometimes find non-boring people.
His fusion era is the only jazz I like. What's some other jazz a "rockist" would enjoy?
>>128722317
>>128736166is it really jazz if a guy who doesnt like jazz enjoys it?
>>128731396Besides Evans, what white musicians did he work with?
>>128736137yes it was
>>128736265Gil Evans, John McLaughlin, Chick Corea, Bill Barber, Danny Bank, Dave Holland, Joe Zawinul, Harvey Brooks, Steve Grossman, David Liebman, Keith Jarrett, John Scofield
>>128736265Teo Macero. Not sure if he actually played with Miles but his production work involved artistic decisions so he counts as a "musician" in this context.
>>128736227Sometimes
>>128736166
>>128736568rockists really are terrible
>>128736655Rockists back in the day would at least be fans of anything from big band to post-bop. Now it's all just electric guitar fusion. How many Allan Holdsworth fans love Coltrane as much as Holdsworth? How many Frank Zappa fans also love Eric Dolphy or Stan Getz? Rock fans used to have diverse palettes. Not anymore, and it shows.
>>128736693>Rockists back in the day would at least be fans of anything from big band to post-bop.So they weren't rockists. If someone's favorite genre is rap but they still listen to other genres we don't call them rapists.
>>128736738Honestly I never understood the meaning of the word rockist. I don't listen to rock except when I need to pretend to enjoy Steely Dan to fit in with company.
>>128736765rockist is the kind of guy who has heard every album joe henderson ever played on that has a guitar on it but 0 of those who dont have guitar on them
>>128736738rockist doesn't mean "only listens to rock" retard
>>128722488
>>128737001dont need bait for the willing
>>128736831So a guitaristist?
>>128736840a well rounded listener is not a rockistretard
>>128736840rockist means you arent a well rounded listener, it implies you will listen to some real bullshit and enjoy it as long as theres mediocre guitar player on there
i have a theory that rockists have a really strong need to identify with who is playing on the record so if hes really mediocre then it only makes it better for them
>>128737321That would explain a lot.
>>128737274>>128737307rockist is portmanteau for rock supremacist. what else you listen to besides rock is utterly irrelevant trinket chasing. it's a word that denotes attitudes towards rock that are unjustifiably snobby. many rockists become rockists precisely because they listen to a few other genres just to "prove" their "inferiority". even the polite rockists of the 60s and 70s who enjoyed a little chopin or art blakey still had that insufferable stench of angst and conceit to them. some of the biggest jazzs snobs i've met really like the beatles, some of the biggest classical elitists i've met really like the blues, etc. anyway, you two are probably exactly the types.
>>128737488ok faggotist
>>128737643ok not an argumentist
>>128722337fpbp
>>128736166Esperanza Spalding's art rock album might be just the thing for you unless you really hate funk rhythms or whatever
