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The 1987 chart has begun! Reply to this post with what you want suggested.

1 Vote = Put on the list
2 Votes = Higher priority
3+ Votes = Automatic inclusion

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>>128757156
absolute first thing that came to my mind

>>128757182
It nearly made the personal favorites row but I put Death Angel up there since I fucking KNEW Hall of the Mountain King would be one of; if not the first things voted lol

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>>128757229
It's on the list. Never listened to that one, does it have the garbage production Orgasmatron has?

>>128757007
IIRC power ballads are basically songs that are meant to evoke an extra strong emotional response from the listener. Could be wrong, though

what decade was worse for metal: 90s or 00s?

>>128757352
90s

>>128757352
Definitely the 90s.

>>128757445
It's no contest, really. I mean Christ, an entire fucking sub-genre (thrash) was pretty much dead in the water for most of the decade.

>>128757482
depends what you mean by "worse". metal in the 90s was dead while in the 00s it was bastardized and turned to shit (numetal, metalcore, etc). better dead than humiliated

>>128757515
True, but on the flip-side there were genre revivals going on in the 00s so the concept of metal's was only fucked up in the eyes of the mainstream.
>numetal, metalcore, etc).
Nu metal started out in the '90s, and I'm pretty sure metalcore started around the same time, too.

>>128757572
I'd put the death of metal as well as rock overall on 1996, with the Telecommunications Act of 1996. at least on the mainstream

seriously. it's absurd how quickly the entire music industry turned to shit overnight.

>>128757594
>I'd put the death of metal as well as rock overall on 1996, with the Telecommunications Act of 1996. at least on the mainstream
>Telecommunications Act of 1996
QRD? Because from what I'm reading this just looks like a poorly executed bunch of regulations.

>>128757660
long story short one of the things it did was allow big companies to purchase smaller companies and to homogenize the industry. before that the industry was much more decentralized and local which led to more creativity and variety.

right after the act, shit like buttrock, numetal, boy bands, girlpop, rap and other crap started getting popular. surely just a coincidence

it also had effects outside of music which I won't get into

>>128757781
>long story short one of the things it did was allow big companies to purchase smaller companies and to homogenize the industry.
So that's why you don't see indie labels often; if at all anymore? Damn.
>right after the act, shit like buttrock, numetal, boy bands, girlpop, rap and other crap started getting popular. surely just a coincidence
For me it's nu metal and butt rock. When I was first getting into metal and learning about the history of it, I looked at some yearly releases, and I've always found it odd that there were a handful of albums in 1994-1995, y'know pretty standard stuff for a genre starting out: but then 1996-1997 comes around and there's a fuckload of bands popping up. And it didn't appear natural like heavy metal did with the NWOBHM, which was an entirely grassroots movement; no, what I saw reeked of astroturfing, like grunge but on a bigger scale.

>>128757152
Never seen Talas mentioned on here before...decent 80s cheese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6qt1f3-a9o

>>128757786
Yeah the top row of every chart is my personal favorites of the year.
>Maybe not to someone totally new to metal though.
That's why I put it back. It's a VERY well known record but not quite on the level of Reign in Blood and Master of Puppets; those have at this point entered mainstream pop culture. (That, and Ride the Lightning I'd 100% call an essential release for 1984.)

>>128757800
It isn't any less metal because Twisted Sister's a metal band. I don't even consider them glam either, their music's just too fucking heavy and dirty to qualify as it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-P0wvyQtmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iccKvxl7tuA

>>128757884
I have that one in my backlog but have held it off in favor of other albums, it's got some funky album art

So metal is just bombastic, more brutal rock?

>>128757951
Kinda yeah, and the lines between hard rock and traditional metal are nebulous at best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzmUS-jXrBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KApie0UjEY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZiww-_CI14

>>128757979
Wow I had no idea Breaker was so good.

>>128758018
It's not as good as Restless and Wild and is definitely more rock-y, but it's a really killer album. Some early hints of power metal in the title track and Run If You Can, too.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4-oCE2y-CrHVAmGqfkTRtBrKCV5V0N0y

>>128757152
Luv Prog simple as

>>128758195
yep. prog is amazing in all its forms (rock, metal, house, trance, etc.)

>>128758195
Gotta be in the right mood for it, but I'm starting to like it more

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boring. like a second-rate motley crue. guitarwork's good though

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BLAaAaAaAaAaAsting

>>128757800
>>that TS song
>How is this any less metal than JP - Rapid Fire?
>https://youtu.be/FoA8OxjxSrw?t=40 [Embed]
Who said twisted sister wasn't metal?

>>128758989
The ghost that never lies

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Great album, style's similar to Manowar but space-y and with a progressive edge. Highly recommended, the closer's fantastic.
https://files.catbox.moe/mbac39.rar

holy KINO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD8HjzjynXg

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John Gallagher of Raven plays bass on this record so that's why I checked it out. There are countless amazing riffs here, and the songwriting's consistently great. Reminded me a lot of early Helstar.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCEy92wb03jusBGM9vo624joMertNyyFN

>>128757257
I think it sounds fine. Different producers at least.
You tell me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBdxJtEe2Sw

>>128760579
Can't listen to another full album right now but from the few seconds I heard of the opening track the drums are very meaty. I like it.

>>128760600
>Producer: Motörhead, Guy Bidmead
I guess they wanted to be more in control with this one.

>>128760630
That was a good choice, imo Orgasmatron's '80s style production is a complete mismatch with Motorhead's style. This just sounds better.

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>>128760742
Good choice. I wish I liked the vocals on this release desu, all of the songs outside of them kick a lot of ass

>>128760768
do you at least like their first album?

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>>128760787
No

>>128760796
still too low of a score for the literal best heavy metal album ever made.

>>128760866
it's very close to a perfect 10/10 but i just think hunt you down is ever so slightly weaker than the rest of the record

>>128760885
fair enough. those opening riffs are goated though.

>>128760893
>those opening riffs are goated though.
imo they would've been the perfect setup for an epic, but instead that song is just pretty much straightforward trad. still great music, but not up to par with shit like trial by fire, break free and alone in the docks. the entire rest of the album is in an entirely different wheelhouse lol

>>128757152
Is there a better heavy metal song than Stargazer?

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>>128758752

>>128757156
The Whitesnake '87 album, I'd argue there's enough material there that counts as trad metal. Everyone is sick of the singles, sure, but it's an immense album from a vocal and guitar perspective.

If I make a traditional metal band nowadays will I get big money

>>128762617
is there any modern traditional metal band that makes big money?
not really, no

you'd need a gimmick that can draw a lot of normies in, like Ghost

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Here, the essence of metal

>>128762617
Find something that makes your band unique, otherwise you’ll just be another fish in the pond. Pretty much what >>128763997 is saying, but you should also really focus on making memorable songs. I’d recommend WASP, 80-82 Priest, Motley Crue’s first two records and Scorpions for inspiration. (Especially Scorps, they were really good at making hits)

>>128765203
And to add onto this, remember that sometimes less is more. A simple, but effective riff will be much more memorable to your average joe than neoclassical wank. This is one of my favorite songs of all time and it illustrates what I mean perfectly.
https://youtu.be/7ieJc7HmoDM?si=4vRUK8XkADVWREp_

>>128757156
Black Sabbath - The Eternal Idol
Savatage- Hall of the Mountain King
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys I
Messiah Force - The Last Day
Tyrant - Too Late to Pray
Carnivore - Retaliation
Grim Reaper - Rock You to Hell
Nasty Savage - Indulgence
Sodom - Persecution Mania (this is a little into the extreme side of thrash but you've got The Ultra Violence on there so I'll include it)

This site is really useful for finding albums. It scrapes the Metal Archives and lists them by year, genre, rating, etc. Here's the list of everything released in 1987
https://www.furia.com/em/all1987.html

>>128765465
>Sodom - Persecution Mania
I second this, great record. I don't know if I'd consider it trad doe

>>128765546
I can’t add it to the list rn but it’s one of those albums that’s borderline and could go both ways. Put it to vote :p

>>128757152
Anyone Coney Hatch? Coney Hatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuXhbk5gXgM

>>128757182
Fuckin based

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>>128765603
not bad. kinda greasy...

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>>128761122 (checked)
>>128767071
Added to the list

>>128762356
Yeah it's metal enough, and I hope it gets on. I really like that one

>>128765465
>Sodom - Persecution Mania (this is a little into the extreme side of thrash but you've got The Ultra Violence on there so I'll include it)
I'll put this one as a poll, accepting input for 5~ hours https://strawpoll.com/YVyPvNoEogN

Uriah Heep invented NEScore.

>>128767640
>NEScore
I assume you mean songs that sound like they could be from a Nintendo game

>>128757156
Forgot to post yesterday but here are my own nominations:

Heathen - Breaking the Silence
Leatherwolf - Leatherwolf
Liege Lord - Burn to My Touch
Nasty Savage - Indulgence
Pentagram - Day of Reckoning
Pretty Maids - Future World
Running Wild - Under Jolly Roger
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
Terra Rosa - The Endless Basis
Voivod - Killing Technology
Viper - Soldiers of Sunrise
Whitesnake - S/T

>>128767640
>>128767663
wouldnt it be that the nes makers were inspired by them? idk

>>128768395
In that case, I don't really hear much Heep in old Nintendo music. I guess Bird of Prey sort of sounds like something I'd hear in a Castlevania game, but the only metal bands I really hear a lot of consistent influence from is Judas Priest and Deep Purple. And you only hear that kind of stuff in action games.

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Very fun album, like Exciter's debut record but crunchier and with a more thrashy bent

>>128768395
That's what I'm saying.

>>128768496
Ah. I wouldn't really point to their debut album, but Demons and Wizards (outside of Easy Livin') does sound like shit you'd hear in an old-school adventure game. Rainbow Demon especially

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The ballad was kind of gay and didn't really do anything for me, but the rest was great. I'd imagine this is sort of like what Soundgarden would sound like if they went thrash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sPEID-fl9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILpOA7Aw7d0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjSI7xpvHiI

>>128757156
Viper - Soldiers of Sunrise
Pretty Maids - Future World
Grim Reaper - Rock You To Hell

>>128769360
>Pretty Maids - Future World
seconding

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What a great album. Fast, melodic and raw. Kind of like a Brazilian Walls of Jericho. Andre Matos was only 15 when it was recorded.

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>>128769384
3 (including mine) votes, added.

>>128769403
>What a great album.
I know right? I checked it out around the beginning of the year and really fucking liked it. I should blast it again sometime.

>>128769384
If I had a million dollars for every heavy/power metal band that released a song called Future World in the late 80s, I'd only have three million, but it's weird that it happened thrice.

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Solid, can't really go wrong with any songs here they're all good-great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvSHGmWntIA

What about ZZ Top? too funky? early top rips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1__BAJ_vb80

>>128769736
Pretty fucking far from metal (they don't even play hard rock most of the time right?) but I like Tush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ULIafAYw4o

>>128769522
Helloween... who's the third?

>>128769824
Screamer. I've listened to it before, it's a pretty good album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W1xe8xb4mk

how about some witchfynde

>>128769837
Yeah, this one has to go on the 1988 chart.

>>128769736
They're pretty badass. Check out Tres Hombres.

>>128769384
I love how that album has this super sappy love song in the middle of all the hard rockin' shouting and heavy riffs, but it fits perfectly in the flow of the album

>>128769869
Hell yeah man. I'll be voting for it when the time comes, it's a damn good release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPay1Dyt_w

Just listen to the lead at 1:11, shit's fucking trippy

Constipation-core https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_I1ORO07Xw

I think we all know the first thing going on the '88 chart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mlm8fkVZIE

>>128770221
Yep, that and Mindcrime are shoe-ins. You can't NOT have those, they're two of the best metal albums of all time lol

Remember that time Lou Reed produced Rainbow?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9LPCex5ksw

>>128770375
this album is really good. based Ritchie could not be stopped

>>128770396
Yeah, kind of a direction I wish Blackmore's Night went more into (but I like them too).

>>128770411
i like Blackmore's Night in small doses. that style of music doesn't lend itself to full album listening imo

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>>128770425
It lends itself to Christmas. lol
Seriously, it's a good one to put on, if you want something besides the traditional Bing Crosby stuff.

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Starts off good but by the end it really wore itself thin. Doesn't help that this guy constantly sounds he's trying to pass a kidney stone, either.

>>128770531
Album art's adorable

Fuck it I'll put it on, I need a palette cleanser after that last one

>>128770531
cool i love Christmas music, i'll check it out. thanks!

1:54 that's some beautiful guitar man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb7COjA1Lm4

>>128770660
Yeah, he still shreds.. He just doesn't play much rock anymore. And pops up in the oddest places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPW8jshR3kQ

>>128770702
>He just doesn't play much rock anymore.
I know originally it was a stylistic shift but nowadays I don't think he could play rock even if he wanted to. Doesn't he have a lot of medical problems right now? Also
>William Shatner
WHAT

>>128770727
>Doesn't he have a lot of medical problems right now?
Yeah, unfortunately. But I don't know the details. His wife said he can do shows, but just a few at a time. He only likes driving distance, and I think he lives in Germany nowadays.

>>128770702
Shat covered Space Truckin' and Iron Man on that album

>>128770776
>His wife said he can do shows, but just a few at a time.
Damn. At least he can still play, though.
>and I think he lives in Germany nowadays.
Probably has more important connections in Europe than in NY desu

>>128770832
>Shat
I read that as Shart lol

Persecution Mania poll has been sitting at 2 votes in favor and 1 against for like 3 hours now, I don't see anything else happening with it so I'll put it on the chart - but if we need space for something else it'll be the first to go

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Just barely under 30 minutes and it really benefits from that. The songs are quick, to the point, and punchy. Was also surprised at how much prog metal is here, too. There's some funky time changes in just about every song and the bass-playing at points almost reminded me of funk metal it's pretty out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MByWJVZN9I

For me, the best metal christmas song is Rob Halford's version of Oh Holy Night.

>>128762356
Ok, you have my vote. I can't thi k of anything from '87

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BE MAH, BE MAH
BE MAH, BE MAH
BE MAH BE MAH
BE MAH BE MAH
BE MY WENCH TONIGHT

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>>128769074
Based Act III enjoyer

>>128770776
He lives on Long Island.
If he's touring, the only real way to see him is if you live in a 3-hour radius of New York City.
Furthest he's travelled from there is either Harrisburg or Cortland.

>>128769744
>far from metal
for sure but very hard rock

>they don't even play hard rock most of the time right?
A lot of their early stuff is pretty hard- if not slow blues and ballads then they are ripping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db94lyKYOcg

>>128769744
live Top his pretty hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeVuiCxHcG0

Racer X? Racer X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiI24m9E6o

>>128757156
Dark Quarterer - Dark Quarterer
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys, Part I
King Diamond - Abigail
Leatherwolf - Leatherwolf
Liege Lord - Burn to My Touch
Manilla Road - Mystification
Running Wild - Under Jolly Roger
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
Tyrant - Too Late to Pray

>>128775752
for me its Precious and Grace ( 2 hookers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnz3qRgDQQ

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>>128772651
3 votes for Whitesnake, added

>>128776238
Liege Lord, Running Wild and Helloween have been added
>Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys, Part I
>Manilla Road - Mystification
Seconding these

>>128775712
Daaamn this is good

>>128777765
that's 3 for Keeper with >>128765465

>>128778164
Yeah and I said Helloween got added lol, mine was the 3rd vote :p

>>128778178
oh my bad

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>>128778208
All good, but now we're running into a bit of a barrier where there's just not a lot to work with right now. I think I'll spend some time checking out random albums from '87, because I actually don't have many in my library

>>128778361
Dio - Dream Evil.
Raven - Life's a Bitch.

>>128778489
They're on there now
>Raven - Life's a Bitch
It's insane how much of a jump in quality that one is over The Pack is Back, normally a band would fucking die from a trashfire like that

>>128775530
I knew he lived in NY for years... must've misheard he moved to Germany. Like something about his kids learning the language. That's cool then.

>>128757156

Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt. 1!
Manowar - Fighting the World

>>128757352
00s. 90s had amazing Power Metal albums.

>>128777765
Persecution Mania sucks and is not trad.

>>128778752
Yeah, traditional metal in general still had a place. Nu Metal - and its influence even if you weren't Nu Metal - ruined metal. Everything seemingly became about chugging and drummer centric.

>>128778770
>Persecution Mania sucks
Subjective, I think it's one of the best thrash albums personally
>and is not trad.
Musically it's not that much heavier than Reign in Blood, the vocals are blackened but otherwise it's comparable outside of Christ Passion

With that being said, now that I listen to it and Agent Orange side-by-side the latter is definitely lighter and sounds much more like plain thrash to my ears. I'll still leave Persection on the chart for now though

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Very good and a sizable improvement over the debut, really liked the vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBi1xPb-ND8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=759FE7fgPws

>>128778361
>All good, but now we're running into a bit of a barrier where there's just not a lot to work with right now. I think I'll spend some time checking out random albums from '87, because I actually don't have many in my library
have a likely incomplete list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_in_heavy_metal_music

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>>128779737
Oh shit, Artillery's debut is from 87? I've been meaning to check them out for months now

Wait no, it wasn't - why the fuck is it here lol

>>128779737
there's a comprehensive list here
>>128765494

>>128779842
I looked at this site as well, and it's pretty helpful desu

I'm a bit confused on the policy towards thrash when it comes to the charts

>>128779928
What I go by is if you can realistically call a thrash album both death or black and not get flamed (like Kreator - Pleasure to Kill or Sepultura - Schizophrenia) then it ain't trad. You can't call Sodom - Agent Orange a black metal album but you could probably call Tapping the Vein death metal

Thrash is weird

>>128780000
>Thrash is weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oapTDYMwcmk

>>128780140
At 0:52 that just sounds like black metal. Literally, that sounds like fucking In the Sign of Evil
>THE COMMENCER
And the way he yells it is fucking hilarious

https://youtu.be/4_cuthAsuJs?t=91
https://youtu.be/kRX_vBbQJhQ?t=145

>>128764196
more or less based, let's hang out

>>128780000
Ok that makes sense

>>128780000
Btw now that you say that I have to rescind my vote for Persecution Mania. I consider that black/thrash
In its place I will add a vote for Anthrax - Among the Living

>>128780961
In that case, Sodom's off the chart and I'll both count and second Anthrax because that album kicks ass

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https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=hFwfO0AGV6c

Wild One is great. Incredible riff.

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>Metal Archives down

>>128780998
So I wasn't the only one that was having trouble accessing the site earlier, it'd just time out repeatedly

Probably cloudflare retardation

>>128780994
The song after is good but not as strong. tho its got an interesting keyboard choir sound for the ending:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=lC-1DyXH2B8

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Not a fan of the obvious attempts at snagging radio airplay and the unnecessary closer, but the rest of the record's good. Doro's got pipes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlXiWLzanaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_5ELIEXpTE

>>128780969
Dio - Dream Evil
Manilla Road - Mystification
Satan - Suspended Sentence

>>128781634
Counted and now Manilla's on there

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Great fucking album, nominating for the chart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYI8_lWDwH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPUGjdkAtOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp1y4tzAGrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYAlnu_FN4Y

>>128757156
Pentagram - Day of Reckoning

>>128781752
kounted

https://youtu.be/ieCmpx7GfV4

>>128757156
Anthem - Bound to Break

>>128781871
Counted and seconded, very good record

>>128760988
>Is there a better heavy metal song than Stargazer?
A Light In The Black

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First half is amazing, second is good but doesn't even hold a candle to the first few songs. The mix is also very inconsistent, sometimes it's really crunchy and full, and others it has no oomph at all.

Deep Purple - Sail Away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oc0GNdtj50

>>128779553
I find the debut more consistent but License is still really good. Chain Gang Woman is heavy as all fuckkkkk like goddamn

>>128782331
That song was pretty killer. I think I might put on their debut again actually, it's been a while and I don't remember much about it tbdesu

There's a riff here that really reminds me of Rock Bottom by UFO, good shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eFQqocoEf0

>>128782347
>>128782430
Hell yeah man I fucking love that album and band

>>128782454
For me it's the vocals. He's almost like Halford mixed with John Arch, and his tone's great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_PpctMGVI
HELL RIDER!
HELL RIDEAAHHH!!
HELL RIDAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>128782488
He's one of my favorites as well, you can tell that he had a lot of fun singing those songs

>>128782618
Indeed, honestly without his vocals this material wouldn't be anywhere near as memorable. He fucking SELLS it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CalxW0HE-W0

Like just listen to those fucking howls at 02:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J1meqsZufw

kino.

>>128757156
Another vote for
Mystification- Manilla road.

If everyone loves these oldschool vocals, why don't they exist anymore :\

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>>128758752

>>128782946
>If everyone loves these oldschool vocals, why don't they exist anymore :\
im sure they exist to some extent.

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Is there an album that comes close in feeling (& quality) to the marriage of heaven & hell albums?

>>128782946
What on earth makes you think those kind of vocals don't exist anymore? There are literally hundreds of hard rock/metal releases every single year.

>>128783817
OK, in the Western world then. I'm sure other Euros and Japan are keeping it alive.
I'm open to recs.

>>128783826
You can start here
https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2025/g:exact,us%2dpower%2dmetal,heavy%2dmetal,%2dblack%2dmetal,%2ddeath%2dmetal,%2dthrash%2dmetal/

I usually start by looking at either bands I know or album covers that look cool.

Or go through these
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFfJEoBwaLaLMCEaDMHu029Qs_W1xMIZv

>>128783885
>album covers that look cool
The only way to do it desu

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>>128783826

>>128783902
What about Venator

Diapershit won

>>128783915
Their first release was 2020 and I'm pretty sure the chart is a lot older than that.

Do /metal/fags even make charts anymore? Apart from the /trad/ charts most seem pretty old, although I suppose most of the newer releases aren't essential.

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>>128783902
>Barn Burner
Brohemoth is such a goddamn good song

>>128781242
>unnecessary closer
What do you mean by that?

Also, count another vote for this from me.
Doro is a great singer and she was super hot.

Man, Def Leppard is great. I never thought I'd like them this much.

>>128782933
Counted but Manilla's on there already

>>128784688
Just thought Fur immer was unnecessary. It didn't add anything and it droned on by the end. Swing and a miss.
>Also, count another vote for this from me.
You got it

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Sounds how it looks. One of the more abrasive thrash albums I've heard, and not even because it's particularly heavy - the whole album is just really raw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d92XOX1n7Bc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0HI7fXbv2s

>>128787770
All their early albums sound like shit except Live without sense.

>>128782700
This sounds so Judas Priest influenced.

>>128788128
True, but it's cool so I didn't really mind

>>128787015
Ah, alright.
But Fur Immer became one of her iconic songs, so no complaints here.

https://youtu.be/fYzMdFkDJ_8

>>128789295
Love the music, but the lyrics are peak "I'm 12 and this is deep".

>>128789364
it was a simpler time

>>128789364
Queensrÿche had the smartest lyrics of any band in the 80s

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Quintessential thrash, and I'm baffled this hasn't been suggested for the chart yet. Nominating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJvekw6bqs

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>>128758752

bump

>>128757410
>>128757445
WRONG

https://youtu.be/SGRgAULYgWE?si=ODqwcPCb3pLG4zbi

>>128790046
Bought this on cassette tape after getting The Ritual and was blown away. Very underrated band.

>>128791735
I don't know if I'd call Testament underrated but they are a really fucking good band.

>>128787770
Destruction is awesome
https://youtu.be/aO-PfpMZnFI?si=NuhwbAMjHFPA8RoZ

>>128791915
Goddamn this is sum good thrash

LISTEN TO IT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAWUvfEotzU

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Another easy nomination, this album was fucking fantastic and much better than my first listen a few months ago
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDGkLoz_StY7-1zNxOA3jGsEWYQwljIS1

>>128792166
>>128792344
Sounds promising. But my first feelings is that the vocals is a barrier I might not be able to break through due to personal preference. First impression is an extremely poor man's version of Jeff Scott Soto.

Black Sabbath - The Eternal Idol
Whitesnake - 1987
Racer X - Second Heat
Cacophony - Speed Metal Symphony
Tony MacAlpine - Maximum Security
TNT - Tell No Tales
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Part I
EZO - EZO
Dokken - Back for the Attack
Grim Reaper - Rock You to Hell
Lion - Dangerous Attraction
Dio - Dream Evil

As well as a heap of others I'm forgetting. Good year for the genre.

>>128783902
A shame Steelwing split up. They were so good.

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Anybody heard of these guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCuQQaMmPE

>>128795173
>TNT - Tell No Tales
I second this one.

>>128795173
Candlemass - Nightfall
Manowar - Fighting the World
Guns n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King

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Fuck, FUCK, how could I forget this? It's not 1987 but I wanted to shill this. Highlight of this great, Roth-era Scorpions influenced band, is "the Awakening". Knew them since my teenage years through Metal Massacre VI and their song "En Masse (Stand or Die)"

>>128790046
This has my vote.

>>128791735
>>128791786
Definitely not underrated but they're awesome

>>128757156
Lizzy Borden - Visual Lies
U.D.O. - Animal House

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmCm2X0Hu1A

2000 was such a good year for metal. 1997-2004 was such a good period for metal. I didn't know how good I had it.

>>128757152
Are gays welcome in here?

>>128797293
We like power metal here, so yes.

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Need some songs or albums with medieval themes

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>>128797365
THE AXEMAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>128797365
Matthias Steele - Haunting Tales of a Warrior's Past

>>128797494
You just reminded me that that band debuted in 1987 and is eligible for the chart

>>128757156
Matthias Steele's s/t

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>>128795173
>Grim Reaper - Rock You to Hell
>Dio - Dream Evil
Added, rest are counted

>>128795472
>Guns n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Nah, not metal enough and I'm also leaning towards "no" because this is one of the most iconic albums of all time, waste of a slot imho

>>128796264
>This has my vote.
That other guy said he loved the album so that or may not count as a 3rd vote, I'll add it anyways 'cause the album's amazing

>>128796684
Both counted and personally seconding Visual Lies, great album

>>128797519
Counted, never heard of these guys they any good?

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>>128757156
Thrash, but definitely not something you could call black or death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a21RQ3PjJ4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhe5NX8a1bY

>>128798576
oh man I forgot all about these guys. I used to listen to this track so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm2zxqb0o0k

>>128798581
That track is very good. Mind Wars is even better than Terror and Submission imo, but that's for the next chart.

>>128797365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOs7nNbPWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINEQSUSKuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEPKb736boU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AssG0Qj15i0

>>128798576
It's on there now, might check this one out

>>128798652
Fuck, I meant it's on the list should've clarified lol

>>128798678
It was quite obvious what you meant desu

>>128798691
Oh alright, just wanted to make sure

>>128798317
>Counted, never heard of these guys they any good?
Haunting Tales is one of the best USPM albums ever imo

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>>128798701
Album art looks fucking awesome

>>128797365
Armored Saint - March of the Saint
Jerusalem - s/t
Iron Maiden - Sun and Steel, Flash of the Blade
Rainbow - Kill the King, Lady of the Lake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1fK56ZtZJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VanwcbJzdf8

Now THIS is oldschool metal music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn6pePV2CS8

>>128798905
Nice recs.

Did anybody watch the newest Cassette Cult on Banger TV? Have you ever heard of Tales of Medusa?

>>128799173
No not yet, sounds cool though

>>128797365
Accept - Princess of the Dawn
Alkana - The Tower
Black Sabbath - The Wizard
Europe - Boyazont (instrumental but it sounds medieval)
Metallica - The Four Horsemen?
Rainbow - Sixteenth Century Greensleeves
Riot - Warrior
Riot - Altar of the King
Saxon - Princess of the Night
Scorpions - The Sails of Charon (debatably)

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Just finished it, what an album. Pretty much flawless the whole way through, every song is packed with great riffs and vocals and it flows wonderfully.

>>128797167
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/MetalnMovies/power-metal_flower-metal-renaissance-97-04/
>>128799173
No and no. Reading about Tales of Medusa's latest album now though. Mixed in mono? Sounds fucking retarded to be honest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPSmyOA5FyM

This woman is brilliant

>>128797365

https://youtu.be/6AMGzBAk2Yw?t=91

>>128795669
Listening right now, kino first song and a really good guitar tone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCvFPQPr_L8

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Very good album, reminded me of Helstar and Talon. Cool album art, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBRD4O0yNPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nFpCkKIxtI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qojx-2xWQk4

>>128799653
I am glad I turned you on to it anon!
I had the RX88 back then, many a mornings I woke up to En Masse (one night I forgot to set the track selection though and woke up to swing of the axe by Possessed, almost had a heart attack, kek). I think the record has En Masse in there.

>>128799394
Apparently these guys built a name from mail order alone. They are even in the bnrmetal *kneels* database! Respect for their attitude. Rock'n'roll has to have an attitude, it's not supposed to be a commodity.

>>128800800
>I am glad I turned you on to it anon!
Yeah thanks man, it was a fun listen.
>I think the record has En Masse in there.
It doesn't, no.

>>128800545
I CAN'T GO NO MORE
MY FOOTS, TO THE FLOOR!
WE'LL BE LUCKY, TO MAKE IT OUT, ALIIIIIVEEEE
IN OVERDRI-IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVEEEEEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3CgaIJcne0

What a great band.

Can't get into anything with King Diamond in it at all. His high pitched howls just sound so goofy.

>>128801674
I thought so at first too but I loved the instrumentation so much that I put up with it until I started liking them lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXw4aGuC1LA

I love Power Metal so much it's unreal.

>>128801716
Listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4Nm7x-gWc

>>128801687
this was me with death metal, or honestly any music with goofy vocals

Heavy fucking Meadow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T1uUVBUbE4&

>>128801830
Lol same here, except I still think death metal's vocals are fucking retarded
(well except for obituary, the sewer screams are awesome and make that band for me)

>>128801865
Obituary is an extremely mid band with a 10/10 vocalist
Maybe try Bolt Thrower. Their early (best) stuff is still very blastbeaty and grindy but I honestly always wondered how tradGODS would react to Those Once Loyal (also great)

Anyway just to stay a little bit on topic, I didn't know Deep Purple rocked this hard. I feel stupid for not checking them out more. https://youtu.be/Wr9ie2J2690?si=M1uQLb6VNvSu7WQv

>>128801997
>Maybe try Bolt Thrower. Their early (best) stuff is still very blastbeaty and grindy but I honestly always wondered how tradGODS would react to Those Once Loyal (also great)
I've listened to BT's debut. They're okay but a bit too grindy for my tastes. I prefer death/thrash personally.
>Anyway just to stay a little bit on topic, I didn't know Deep Purple rocked this hard. I feel stupid for not checking them out more.
Highway Star is my favorite song of all time. Ritchie's solo is goddamned ART

>>128801716
probably my favorite song of theirs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZS3MJ2Qk1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WhsjjbiLqo

https://youtu.be/ClUB7_8xjEw?t=304
https://youtu.be/ClUB7_8xjEw?t=67

I can totally see how this band inspired In Flames. So good.

>>128801764
Nice. It's like Helloween style power metal before they did it.

>>128802216
Mari Hamada has a power metal song from her classic period, too. (And nowadays she plays symphonic power metal, I've listened to an album before and while I don't care for the orchestral stuff the actual metal's great)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzqEfXrsE-Y

>>128802232
Japan again surprises. This was released in 1983? It sounds way ahead of its time. Way heavier than what was around at the time, this is full blown speed metal. It's even more speed metal than Exciter. It's literally the European power metal style but in 1983. How tf is it possible, and how is this so underlooked?

>>128802035
>too grindy for my tastes
That's fair. After War Master they shed the grindcore influence completely and went in a more death-doom direction, then towards the end of their discography they became more strictly groove-oriented.
Realm of Chaos is my absolute favorite DM album and it made me like blast beats.

>Ritchie's solo is goddamned ART
Yeah, that was fantastic. Though the classical influence kinda threw me off kek

>>128802198
The whole Gothenburg melodic death metal scene were influenced by Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden in particular are huge in that city.

>>128802272
>It's literally the European power metal style but in 1983.
>How tf is it possible
It's definitely rare but not unheard of. Europe has a few power metal songs from their first two albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAe9VbwG88g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AkdYICkSyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmyXkBCmqXI
>and how is this so underlooked?
I honestly couldn't tell you. Possibly the album art, I've shown it to a few in the past and their first comment was always about the bizarre J-pop looking cover. But it does make sense, because Mari went straight up J-pop in the mid-80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ixinWfQig

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Bros... is it crazy to say that USPM is one of, if not my absolute favorite musical movements?

>>128758752
https://youtu.be/TPq1SiZBX6g?si=Hiy7-X6CZtefW0mc

>>128802284
Gothenburg melodeath is great. Still mourning Tomas Lindberg...

>>128802355
Sweet!

>>128802277 (checked, am I the only one who's noticed how often we've gotten dubs in the last few threads?)
>That's fair. After War Master they shed the grindcore influence completely and went in a more death-doom direction
That sounds more my speed. Yeah alright, I'll give it a shot next time I want some extreme metal.
>Yeah, that was fantastic. Though the classical influence kinda threw me off kek
Oh yeah, the neoclassical stuff didn't start with Rainbow lol. It's all over In Rock and it's there on Burn (the song), too.

>>128802425
>Bros... is it crazy to say that USPM is one of, if not my absolute favorite musical movements?
Not at all. But power/thrash, my dude. Power/thrash is where it's fucking at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP_dimzReL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ti8xq8hZVc

I fail to see how Exciter - Heavy Metal Maniac is "speed metal". It sounds like beefier NWOBHM to me. It's heavy, it's raw, it's largely rocking and pentatonic, but it has nothing of the palm muted 16th note riffs that Helloween, Blind Guardian, and Running Wild have. It sounds like Raven but with noisier, heavier production.

Maybe I don't understand what "speed metal" is but I associate with riffs like this:

https://youtu.be/ozOXyQPLISct=29

Rather than this:

https://youtu.be/SFzF6MFA7lo?t=3

Or is what I'm thinking of actually a power metal trait?

>>128802504
>Power/thrash
I think that can kinda count as USPM doe

https://youtu.be/g1TM_o5lslY?t=23

Like how is this not speed metal?

>>128802504

I see the thrash, where's the power? Iced Earth to me is more power/thrash.

>>128802355
>>128802232

I am blown away. Power Metal in 1983? Are there any more examples? Even earlier?

>>128802582
>Maybe I don't understand what "speed metal" is but I associate with riffs like this:
"Speed metal" isn't really a distinct sub-genre. It's just fast heavy metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o56ryCy-wFo
>Or is what I'm thinking of actually a power metal trait?
I'd say so personally, I usually only hear those kinds of riffs in power metal and I associate it with that most of the time.

>>128802629
Sometimes it is sometimes it isn't, but yeah you can usually group it in with USPM

>>128802658
>Like how is this not speed metal?
Fast as a Shark is usually cited as the definitive speed metal song lol
>I see the thrash, where's the power? Iced Earth to me is more power/thrash.
Iced Earth is power/thrash, yes, but so is Metal Church. Metal Church is just more aggressive.

>>128802731
There's obviously Kill the King by Rainbow but Accept - Breaker from 1981 isn't too far off from European power metal imo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHVSQxg7v8s

Riot - Warrior isn't really European styled power metal but it's definitely USPM, and it's from 1977. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeFALiKln3I

>>128802856
Holy shit, I don't think I've ever heard this kind of fast rolling drum beat (does it have a name) this early

https://youtu.be/grF2hxQzq2k?t=47

Exciter, Japan (1981)

>>128802778
>Metal Church is just more aggressive.
More aggressive than Iced Earth? I have to disagree.

https://youtu.be/8eSzmGkifac?t=8
https://youtu.be/KqjAPhRjaPU?t=124
https://youtu.be/_qudMKbdal8?t=36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjeZBSjlaG8
https://youtu.be/D44xNVy7iZc?t=106

>>128802921
>Exciter, Japan (1981)
https://youtu.be/8MQyI-JTkRM?t=189 Is probably the earliest you can find any power metal related stuff besides A Light in the Black. It's only in this part of the song, though.
>More aggressive than Iced Earth? I have to disagree.
Upon listening to the first song you posted, I have to agree. This is much more aggressive than Iced Earth's debut (only stuff from them I've heard) and it's certainly heavier than any Metal Church song I've heard.

some worthy of a mention and discussion at the very least
Trouble - Run to the Light
Pentagram - Day of Reckoning
Dream Death - Journey Into Mystery
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
King Diamond - Abigail
Anthrax - Among the Living
Overkill - Taking Over
Kreator - Terrible Certainty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRSAfBbIS1Y

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>>128803113
>Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
>Death - Scream Bloody Gore

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>>128803113
Anthrax and Pentagram are now on there, rest are counted ('cept for Bathory, Death, and Kreator - vetoing those)

>>128803313
Why didn't Manowar - Fighting the World make it?

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>>128803313
I'll concede on Bathory and Kreator I thought I saw some extreme genre metals albums here, must have got confused with another thread. But Screaming Bloody Gore was before Death went all progressive Death metal. First album still has that raw more aggressive Thrash vibes but maybe too much for this list.


How about Dark Quarterer?

Lizzy Borden - Visual Lies
Armored Saint - Raising Fear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELxD9_Goz0

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>>128803870
>But Screaming Bloody Gore was before Death went all progressive Death metal. First album still has that raw more aggressive Thrash vibes but maybe too much for this list.
Death metal in any capacity is a no-go even if it's congruent with thrash, sorry man
>How about Dark Quarterer?
>Armored Saint - Raising Fear
That's more like it, counting
>Lizzy Borden - Visual Lies
3 votes now, added

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>>128803374
>>128803399
Does Fighting the World deserve a place? it has some songs I like, but there's flaws with the album.
I think I've heard people call it a sellout album or say that manowar was trying to break into the mainstream. But I actually like the 3 poppier songs.


Anyways, I'm going off the youtube uploads, but it seems like Production is kinda thin/weak or something? Idk if the mixing/mastering or the guitar tone or what.

Here's the weird part, the titular "Fighting the World' seems to be mixed differently from the rest of the album or is kinda louder. Or maybe the guitar tone is different. I haven't actually checked db levels or anything like that though. I don't know if its just an issue with the uploads on youtube.
Has anyone else noticed this?

>>128804855
>Here's the weird part, the titular "Fighting the World' seems to be mixed differently from the rest of the album or is kinda louder. Or maybe the guitar tone is different.
Basically it sounds better produced than the rest of the album.

>>128804855
Not a single weak song on that album.
>Anyways, I'm going off the youtube uploads, but it seems like Production is kinda thin/weak or something? Idk if the mixing/mastering or the guitar tone or what.
Must be youtube. My mp3 versions ripped from my CD sounds amazing. And my dad's LP sounding great too.

Holy War sounds weak on youtube. My mp3 of it sounds huge.

I just can't get with falsetto vocals

>>128804855
>the titular "Fighting the World' seems to be mixed differently from the rest of the album
Yeah I have always noticed that too. Seems like they decided to give special treatment to that song in particular, which is fine by me because that song sounds fucking awesome and is easily the highlight of the album. I do think the rest of it is kind of uninspired. The closer Black Wind, Fire and Steel is great, and I also like Violence and Bloodshed although that song is lacking some kind of climax. I don't care much for anything else on the album. Overall it feels like they just rushed through the songwriting on this one.

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>>128805320
>Overall it feels like they just rushed through the songwriting on this one.

>>128805123
>Not a single weak song on that album.
>>Anyways, I'm going off the youtube uploads, but it seems like Production is kinda thin/weak or something? Idk if the mixing/mastering or the guitar tone or what.
>Must be youtube. My mp3 versions ripped from my CD sounds amazing. And my dad's LP sounding great too.
>Holy War sounds weak on youtube. My mp3 of it sounds huge.
I wonder if they messed up the uploads then, or if they remastered the cd.
Is there any volume difference between fighting the world on your cd and the other tracks?

how does black wind fire & steel compare between the mediums?

>>128805320
>Yeah I have always noticed that too. Seems like they decided to give special treatment to that song in particular, which is fine by me because that song sounds fucking awesome and is easily the highlight of the album. I do think the rest of it is kind of uninspired. The closer Black Wind, Fire and Steel is great, and I also like Violence and Bloodshed although that song is lacking some kind of climax. I don't care much for anything else on the album. Overall it feels like they just rushed through the songwriting on this one.
.
I've seen people make fun of the songwriting on the title track too. Specifically one verse.
>The stripes on a tiger don't wash away, Manowar's made of steel not clay!

I think I was searching and came across an old discussion where they said this gem about that line:
>I can't help this image of somebody repeatedly pouring buckets of water over the poor tiger.
https://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/cheesiest-manowar-lyric.23155/#post-358177
I feel like i've seen another blog post that said that too, but idk.

>>128805123
>>128805320
Defender is nice, but it feels incomplete somehow. There's also a different recording that appears on a single. the arrangement is a also bit different on there.

Violence & Bloodshed is ok, though the lyrics are the corniest on the album. My other largest complaint about it, is the best riff in the song is only used twice.

>>128805522
>I wonder if they messed up the uploads then, or if they remastered the cd.
They released a remaster in 2018 I think.
>>128805522
>Is there any volume difference between fighting the world on your cd and the other tracks?
No.
>how does black wind fire & steel compare between the mediums?
I'm not an audiophile. All the versions sounds great to me.

>>128805659
>They released a remaster in 2018 I think.
is that the one you listened to?

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>>128805722
I have both. The remaster just look like every new album does in audacity. Basically like pic related. The original CD rip looks like an 80s album in audacity.

>>128805776
...so the original rip would be better?

>>128805879
Guess it depends on what you prefer and what you have to listen with, headphones, speakers, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPOYSpHicM

How did Japan keep managing to hit it so hard out of the ballpark?

Remember when Pink Floyd was metal?

https://youtu.be/zESNf0TMt80?si=jj8huifz-bvzsX_W

https://youtu.be/W6bDXDNoy2g?t=106

I've got heavy metal music in my blood
And I'd like to give it to you if I could

>>128795173
>Cacophony - Speed Metal Symphony
>Tony MacAlpine - Maximum Security

Absolutely seconding these.

This is the most christmas-y non-christmas song to me for some reason

https://youtu.be/I5HYJdRKnOg?si=l_akMAzxVFZDWDgl

>>128806670
>mfw pink floyd invented metal in 1969

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>>128807586

Very nice, porny album cover.

https://youtu.be/grF2hxQzq2k?t=46

1981. Japan does it again. The rest of the album is good heavy metal, but this is a standout speed metal part.

>>128803902
Overkill - Taking Over

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>>128808847
counted just baking the new thread atm

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