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Lara Croft edition

>Production Resources:
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
https://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Use Vocaroo to post WIPs.
https://vocaroo.com/

No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).

Sister thread: >>>/g/dmp

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>>128784224
Why the FUCK didn’t you put “prod” in the subject when you made a new thread you stupid motherfucking retard holy shit why are you like this
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>>128784224
Kill yourself you useless monkey you had ONE JOB fucking hell
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>>128784248
>>128784307
>autistic screech
Make another one. We'll delete this.
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>>128784802
>nu-lara
If I may interject, I would just like to say end yourself, you retarded, tasteless cretin. Stop linking that shitpit on /g/ as well, it makes these already awful threads worse. Pic related.
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>>128784248
>>128784307
>>128784840
At least he made a thread you grumpy.
If it shows up when typing "prod" in search it's good enough
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>>128784840
It's fine. Nu is good, old is good, even the 40yo nunu in India is good too. Pic rel.
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>>128784840
Agreed
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>>128784224
Anyone that plays keys by ear ITT?
Im trying to figure out this song's key progression at 0:30, its really good, sounds sad yet beautiful.
https://youtu.be/zZT4kPJ5GSw?si=m0aqLboZUlEoE8xv

I can play keys but im not yet that competent.
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>>128785023
Kys avatarfag
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>>128785037
>avatar
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>>128785023
There has to be some ai software to help out.
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>>128785023
https://vocaroo.com/15eIJubG7Pfy
idk but thanks for the inspo
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>>128785369
>https://vocaroo.com/15eIJubG7Pfy
its good innit?
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>>128785023
drag it into your daw and sound it out bro. slow it down as needed.
that is how you git gud

desu the filter thing is too hard for me to hear but the pad/melody throughout is very do-able
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SLOP to be chopped into another drop at some point in the future perhaps u kno how it goes sad face

https://vocaroo.com/1dYyjYeZW345
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How can i make a similar sound to 1:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IlKTvtNON0
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>>128787779
>154 views
that's my shit too u wanna collab bro
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>>128787779
The lazer-kick?
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How should I spice up my session today
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somethin' im workin on, lemme know your thoughts

https://voca.ro/17JnCnmYIUov
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>>128782735
Really dig this, sounds like early eps/demos of music I like a lot.
Probably at the limits of what you can do yourself without an outside mixer or real studio time. As with anything amateur, the drums are the hardest to get right with recording/mixing yourself as the snare and kick don't really sit in the mix that well. Don't be afraid to dip the volume more on these, find some references of artists and you might be surprised how quiet the drums actually are.
I hear the noise of presumably real amp on the right but the center one is kinda crackly/fizzy in a way that sounds like a sim, could maybe be gated more to get rid of some of the clipping/clicks I hear after notes or mutes. Mainly only a problem when they're solo.
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>>128789925
Really enjoyed this.
I'll be honest, I had very low expectations from the beginning riff 5s-17s and digital waveshaping distortion sound, so I wasn't prepared for the psych/proggy sound after.
I think you could prepare context for that better with the epiano and bit of the sax as a prechorus/intro or just get better sounding guitar distortion so it doesn't sound so crappy as the first introduction to the idea.

Wasn't a fan of the keys from 2:44 on, kinda corny sound selection and the repetitive nature of it. Contrasts what came before it but sounds unimaginative. Loved all the other jam stuff though
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>>128790787
thanks man. I'll try and clean up the distortion, that shit is hard to get right, i'm not a guitarist but a lot of my ideas revolve around the instrument. I'll play around some more with the keys too. much appreciated
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What is the best modern monophonic analogue bass synth under $1000? I want an SH101 but the prices on those are retarded. I was looking at the Novation Bass Station 2 but then I saw the Moog Messenger and wanted to see if there was anything else I should keep an eye out for.
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>>128792161
lol

that one moog obviously

much better than shitty vsts kek
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>>128792184
I've heard people compare the BS2 to a VST before, is it really that bad? I've played it a couple times and it sounds just fine.
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> I would say a good 90% of recordings made on Youtube don't capture the accurate sound differences that you hear in person on some gear. You can often watch a few videos of the same piece of gear and hear the differences with each different recording. Dave Smith made videos of himself and his gear and the recordings are horrible it makes you want to cry.

this is a troll post by the way.

dude use YOUR ears and get whatever has the features that YOU want.
these things sound like a gigantic waste of money TO ME but if you like it go for it.
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Upon further Vaultage examination, I have realized I am not using noise verb anywhere near it's.
potential.
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>>128792161
>>128792595
https://web.archive.org/web/20220712105924/https://fael-downloads-prod.focusrite.com/customer/prod/downloads/bassstation-2.3.exe
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>>128793621
Gotta be physical, I appreciate it though
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>>128793621
there’s a bass station vst now ? :0
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>>128793754
That's an old one -- so old that Novation took it off their website after offering it up for free such that I had to go back to the waybackmachine to find it.
There is a newer one by some other company that licenses the name and it's something like $125 usd.
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just use vital
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>>128784224
Do we share links for some free plugins around here btw?

Don't feel like paying audionews rn.
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>>128794158
Zee audio zite iz zee bezt .download
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>>128794174
im sorry what
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Question regarding XLRs/Line inputs
I have both normal XLR cables, and some XLR to 1/4 inch ones. Is there much of a discrepancy in quality/noise floor or should I be fine with using either, for stuff like acoustics or vocals? I'd test them myself but i don't really have the means atm
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>>128794225
xlr is is probably better in most cases purely because of the versatility, but theoretically there’s negligible difference if you’re using balanced cables in the suitable use cases

https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/24370/is-there-a-significant-difference-in-sound-quality-between-1-4-jacks-and-xlr-in
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https://voca.ro/172hBDmgTHmk
Working on a song for an underwater submarine level for a cartoony platformer, how's the sound fx of the water?
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>>128794694
>everyone rips off Mario 64 water level and plays dumb
Ngmi
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>>128794816
it's literally nowhere close wtf are you talking about
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>>128794158
ygnwie uses black bethoveen for drums something like that i forgot the naem
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>>128789925
this good
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>>128794158
Pls no. Don't mention that website. We don't want normies to find it or worse lose it if they shut it down.
I won't be able to deal with losing that site.
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https://voca.ro/11p6XMHgk6wO
I'm not really liking how this is turning out. Any suggestions?
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>>128795934
>https://voca.ro/11p6XMHgk6wO
intro sounds too hip hoppy which is slop, use more master class sus chords from Hamauzu
in fact learn the fuck out of Hamauzu's style, he is sus chord GOD and its not even that hard desu except things like Giant or Sabre's Edge those songs are hard, start easy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EqyNiR1PO8
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>>128795934
After 0:08 I think its good, remove the violin it doesnt need it, its redundant or use a cleaner sounding distortion, sounds muddy. Sounding clean is best also its all about the melody.
No Melody ≠ No Music
Real Music isnt only based on rhythm. Coming up with melody is hard but basically you just gotta have good inspo and repeat aesthetic sounding noises over and over until something sticks in your brain and makes you think damn this sounds pleasant to repeat in my head over and over. Thats melody, its the series of notes that sticks. Even birds, whales recognize melody to an extent. It's the pattern they repeat when they chirp.
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>>128787606
This is absolute garbage. Dubstep whatever this shit is was never a good genre.
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>>128795934
Intro cords are extremely lazy I can't play by ear but i can tell its the same basic standard typa chord moved a lil bit to the right twice then returning.
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You frens have some budget monitors to recommend? I have good headphones but this PC is still working with a tv soundbar, which is fine for gaming etc but not for music, it seems to have some compression built in even.

They don't need to be high powered.
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>>128795795
Then give invite code boy

>>128796218
A lot can work. If you have the money to pull for some HS5s and don't mind doing reference listening, they're fantastic.
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>>128796697
Do a search on yandex and Google. Read some forums, it will be revealed to you fairly easy if you look around.
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>>128796706
I don't mind throwing a couple bucks just because it's been an insane process, bots are involved in scooping any free ones and I got a fucking album to finish.
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>>128796816
Use the tools of your DAW. You can do it.
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>just got a 88 key midi keyboard with hammer action
anyone have any programs they recommend for learning the piano?
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https://vocaroo.com/13D8ohBjKlXs
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>>128796959
YouTube. Start small, with the very easy stuff. And keep practicing the easy stuff even when you learn more advanced.
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When are you supposed to use legato patches and sustain patches in a melody line?
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>>128796816
>making albums when you have no listeners
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>>128797320
Actually I do

I just am going a different style and trying to evolve personally.
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>>128797176
delete this
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Is running a DAW on ultrawide a pleasant experience?
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>>128797605
Based af
Keep up brotha
Ganbare Kudasai
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>>128796959
YT and Synthesia
But also learn by ear get your ear good as fuck learn to read music later first get some songs that are easy done. Zelda OoT music is easy. Stuff like that.
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>>128797992
Why?
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>>128798200
He doesnt want other bros to learn because he is not a brother. He is a saboteur Cuck
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more progess on my attempt at an early 90s anime op
https://voca.ro/17iQnsDJEMoW
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Are there any singing instructional youtube channels that are good?

It seems like grifter city and is even worse as a musician that doesn't need all the babying down of trying to teach music theory at the same time. This Chris Liepe guy is the only practical channel I've found for technique
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https://voca.ro/168EQg64QXmJ
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>>128800378
Yeah, I think Chris Liepe is the guy I was going to recommend. He's the bald dude, yeah? Kinda sounds and looks like what you would expect someone who browses Reddit to look and sound like, yeah?
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>>128798194
By YT do you just mean youtube or what? Also crazy to think Synthesia is still the goat after all these years.
>>128797080
Are there any channels or videos/playlists in particular you recommend for learning? There is so much algorithm forced trash for music, especially piano. The big thing I want to immediately start practicing and doing exercises for every single day is hand independence.
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i have a few random questions

- do big 5"+ bookshelf speakers sound good even at low volumes, or do you need to choose small speakers? everybody on r*ddit is saying average speakers are simply better than even the best headphones so fuck headphones

- Studiologic SL88 mk2 GT or Korg D1, or something else? i read that these are a good choice for just having at your computer using VSTs. they don't have speakers or anything, so they cost less while giving you a realistic action, I guess.

- mac or windows? the m series chips have such high single-core performance that I assume that will mean minimal latency with VST use, right? also someone from /g/ said that VST torrents are better on mac but that sounds like bullshit.
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>>128798200
because it was an embarrassing question

>>128801002
yes 5 inch speakers sound good at low volumes.
the primary shortcoming of headphones is that it's much easier to fuck up your stereo imaging/phase, and the balancing of spacial effects (i.e you won't have a realistic sense of how reverb is supposed to sound)- particularly if you're inexperienced (there will be a million examples of "well so and so mixes with X headphones so that means..." which is bullshit that isn't applicable to most people).
some of that is mitigated by using open back headphones and referencing, however.
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>>128801083
>because it was an embarrassing question
I genuinely don't know when to use which one. Like, can the violin players play a melody line without legato? Or do they need to have legato on when playing conjoined notes? What about the trumpets? Can you seperate their notes?
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>>128801124
think about it physically.
if something is blistering fast it’s probably more realistic for strings to use legato as opposed to stopping and starting the note or having some extremely precise staccato etc.

the same-ish can be said for brass. you should also be considering how long one can hold their breath.

if it doesn’t sound challenging to play you’re probably over thinking it passed just “what sounds good here?”
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>>128801180
oh and on that note, try singing or humming it out.
mark where one would have to breathe and note that the next phrase may come in a tad late etc.
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Started with the organ and ended up with F2P sci fi shooter title screen music. Not sure the organ still fits.

https://voca.ro/19aUmQMV2qUe
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>>128800818
Synthesia videos.
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>>128801502
People here cant read gusic anon
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>>128788828
Sus Chords
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>>128803249
how can a chord be gay?
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So I got so much shit for this so I decided to try mix it

I'm not happy with the vocals yet, I'll re-do them tomorrow, please tell me what to think about when mastering.

https://on.soundcloud.com/B3bCfA6Wrrx976vZgd
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I made a Christmas song.
https://voca.ro/1e3lr5gEZZam
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>>128804038
naisu :3
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anon i lied
i don't got netflix
take off your shoes we're gonna listen to loveless on old monitors
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>>128805281
Why do i have to take off my shoes? Pervert.
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>>128805292
so you can feel the vibrations on my office's third world tile floor
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>>128804038
kinda based
goes with this gif
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>>128804038
some of your instrumental choices remind me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Au6CWK2ukE
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>>128801448
sounds like a good prog rock intro, it does become gothic sounding as it goes though. This is good man keep up.

>>128803255
Suspended
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>>128798522
This is good sounds like MapleStory or LaTale OST lol
it has some super good ideas here & there no joke your key progressions after the intro are creative and sound glittery
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>>128805292
FUCK people who wear shoes indoors wtf is wrong with you guys idg ts GROSS
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>>128805655
I'm not going to show you my feet
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>>128784224
i think the stakes with music are too high, i'm always scared i will not learn how to make good music and therefore quit it because other real musicians i knew would criticise my attempts too hard. even when /prod/ told me my music is garbage, I got really self conscious. it's weird that i take it more seriously because I do other artforms like writing and photography and don't care if i am kinda shit at them while i scale the steep learning curve
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>>128805281
>スピーカーア
>色消して。(?)
hmmmm
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>>128806004
スピーカを消して。
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Found this Akai MPK49, apparently a model from about 17 years ago, any drawbacks to get this as babbys first midi keyboards in 2025?

https://www.akaipro.com/mpk49.html
The specs say, 'USB/MIDI', so can I assume it will just werk?

BTW I'm not interested in any sequencing capabilities, it's just for DAW MIDI input.
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>>128806553
its solid enough for composing ideas
the cons are the usual:
limited range, not all keys are there you have to transposition so see how stuff further out there might sound, etc.
use it to figure out rhythms, i highly recommend you figuring out rhythms using sus chords a fuck ton like Hamauzu, its hella genius.
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>>128789925
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No, it only needs eyes, not reading music.
Just look for Synthesia cover songs and play them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9nJGtWmKS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9nJGtWmKS8
>>128802332
>>128800818
>>128801502
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>>128806809
cmon sound more like Bully: Scholarship Edition fighting christmas music than DOOM.
https://youtu.be/Mq11P26sMxc?si=H5kPztlLivlXUhVm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNw0ZKN4fYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjnrGT7wN0w
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>>128806804
You can pirate synthesia FOR FREE
with a torrent clent (or the website of utorrent) and then looking for Synthesia on PirateBay
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>>128806919
I think it's a misunderstanding. I am not saying to get the program. You can play the songs from Youtube with lowering the speed and pausing.
Doesn't need the program. Playing your fav tunes will teach you a trillion things about piano.
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>>128806930
true. I started with Zelda Ocarina of Time songs because they are so easy. Then Final Fantasy and all that jazz. FFXIII will teach you how to master suspended chords like nothing else.
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>>128806695
What's the sweet spots for amount of octaves?
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>>128806553
Do you use the pitch bend / modulation wheel in your akai? I think they are awesome you can do cool things with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYGAxiXd-KI
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>>128806553
It's a more rythmic based keyboard, the squares on top do rhythms and beats idk if you're into that feels more like for rap slop like JERM but maybe I'm being a midwit, if you are good you should be able to do almost anything you want on this.
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>>128807021
The sweet spot is like: 61 keys (5 octaves)
Lets you: keep a low pedal or ostinato in the left hand, voice wide sus chords in the right hand

Enough space for:
stacked 4ths, open fifths + aded seconds, inner-voice motion, no constant octave-shifting buttons

This range matches:
Giant, FFXIII piano writing, IMERUAT live performance setups

49 keys (4 octaves): Playable, but constrained
Sus voicings in mid register, repetitive ostinati, modal color work
You often must: compress voicings, drop bass notes, rely on octave buttons
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>>128807519
>The sweet spot is like: 61 keys (5 octaves)
I understood this part of your post, thanks.
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>>128807539
just ask Grok or another AI to clarify words it unironically helps. Anti-AI fags are wrong bout AI. AI is great as a teacher, to clarify easy shit. It can even make midi btw so you practice in Synthesia but its not that accurate.
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>>128784224

https://vocaroo.com/14XTPzTT8RMz
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>>128807552
>AI is great as a teacher, to clarify easy shit. It can even make midi btw so you practice in Synthesia but its not that accurate.
Thanks, it does actually work lol. AI made me this to practice: https://vocaroo.com/1iQdrgFkuWO6

I rather learn a Hamauzu song though.I'm not that amateur. But it is surprising that even chatbots can make midi files.
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>>128807663
Is this Djent slop?
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>>128807710
no
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>>128784224
What are some good creative plugins? Stuff that would change a core sound? I like waveshifter, and chroma. Im more wanting to get a list of companies, or just effects to check out.
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Massive X is fatter
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https://voca.ro/1hQ0dCMlnFiG
https://voca.ro/12okRZCKjNSZ

Been in love with the sounds I've been able to get through analogue synths lately.
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>>128809626
it’s honestly crazy how much better the filters and such sound than everything else yeah
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>>128811312
Yeah, the UI is kind of shit though. Like why does the wave picker have to cover the wave image so we can't preview it?
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>>128808049
Soundtoys, Baby Audio.
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use hardware. https://vocaroo.com/1hpr3Kry8tS0
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>>128811634
Sounds like a $50 keyboard preset.
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>>128801448
>when that french horn comes in
I get a little Ace Combat vibe from it.
my only nitpick is that the soundbed/arp doesnt follow the same chords when the orchestra comes in so it feels a little disconnected like you dont commit to the change of chords.
But this sounds like something great to fly through the clouds or through space to. Good job
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>>128796886
Just got in.

The material here is fucking crazy.
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>>128794158
>>128795795
>audionews
Alright redpill me on Audionews, what is it?
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>>128812985
Shhhhh

Look into it. That's all. Don't wanna risk jannies
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did the revamped version of izotope trash even add anything over the older ones or does it just look slicker and sTreAmLinED now
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verdict on Absynth 6?
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>>128813176
>Absynth 6
Theres an Absynth 6? Thought they pulled the plug on Absynth years ago.
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>>128813187
it came back last week lol
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>>128813176
the same but with the appearance of being modern even though it's the same.

so far as i've been able to tell they updated the browser, added mpe, and slightly changed some things around so that mutating patches requires you to move your eyes like 5% less.
you get circles instead of sliders now.
it is truly impressive.

please somebody else who actually knew absynth 5 read the manual thoroughly i'm just mad readint ts
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>>128813260
Never got into it back in the day.

What's it do vs the rest of the NI lineup?
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>>128813309
i mean... granular?
i [autist] regard it in the same way as their other flagship vsts from years past: unique features that most people gloss over or brush off that remain flying under the radar.

*it can* do the whole evolving soundscape thing very well, obviously- most people (ambient/film composers) using it for that are looking at the presets/expansions (which is obviously who they're continuing to target with this update); it's a headache to program for that imo.

if you're a swag random weird sound xD sound designer like me it does insane shit when you use it in a chain just focusing on it's quirks (i.e not what it's intended for; its granular capabilities in current year are sub standard).

fm wise and the other... oscillator stuff...
there are actually tricks to be done there but they won't impress most people or make it worth having for those alone imo.
i use them for very specific sound effects occasionally.
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>>128813382
That's pretty sick desu.

I work a lot with evolving soundscapes and shit so if it provides more detail on that area to do neat stuff I'm down.
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the exact right decay and rise and amount of third harmonic in your sub
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>>128813260
and it has more filters and shit
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>>128814387
i just double checked and no it doesn’t..? not filters anyway.
in fact i just skimmed the manual and i swear its missing some
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>>128816813
This sounds like its (You) Joel
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>>128816813
Go to sleep Joel you are high and insomniac again
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>>128816813
This better than a lot of my productions. Seems like you can put this in a youtube Playlist for the autist.
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>>128818246
true
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>>128818415
so true Joel
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https://vocaroo.com/1fRWtQHIV3BF
what genre is this
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>>128818613
sound either like trance or something you can find in hip hop slop. Needs more melody / harmony. Only plebs focus too much on the drum n bass but forget that without melody = no music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJrBoqTW24
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>>128818649
>that without melody = no music
do you not hear that lead going the entrire song
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>>128818660
then its not sticking in my brain because the melody is not good enough. Its too Drum & Bass.
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>>128818994
i mean i'm not making beats that are meant to be these big compositions, i'm making stuff that's meant to be sung/rapped over. i agree the drums are too prominent tho
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>>128819023
yeah, thats why I called it out for being hip hop slop. Feel free to go to reddit they appreciate Rap there.
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>>128819037
>the genre primarily known for violence, drugs, offensive language is reddit
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How do you come up with a good alias that will stick? Been trying for ages to come up with an artist name but I feel it’s either not punchy enough or too long, doesn’t fully encapsulate everything I want it to, already been taken by another artist or I feel like I’ll come to hate it and want to change it in a week or so once I’ve already made all my accounts in that name. Tried making traditional usernames of adjective+word or looking for a real forename/surname to use, tried mashing words together, even asked ChatGPT like cattle but I’m not happy with anything.
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hello, little 8bit beat i'm working on https://vocaroo.com/19rEA2E9GT5C
please reply

>>128795934
i like it, however it feels a bit crowded
>>128796015
>No Melody ≠ No Music
uh oh
>>128797039
>https://vocaroo.com/13D8ohBjKlXs
love this, good atmosphere
>>128804038
merry christmas!
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>>128819583
>https://vocaroo.com/19rEA2E9GT5C
You left a whole fucking minute there of silence. idk if you realized.
0/10
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>>128819967
damn, not again
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>>128820244
nice dubs
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>>128784224
Let me guess. /v/cels think she's ugly.
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>>128820299
they dont, only a couple because the internet is not a monolith, the titties are nerfed though but im into this nu-lara she fine.
Tomb Raider was always sort of a Kim Possible simulator anyway with the acrobatics and everything, it was never supposed to be realistic
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Guys, incredibly retarded I know, but is there a program that has a piano roll that is rotated like picrel just like actual keys?

I don't wanna write serious music or anything, I just wanna note down stupid niche game songs by ear, export them as midi and get them in synthesia to play on my piano but I can't get fucking used to seeing the keys sideways.

Is there anything like that or has my autism gone too far?
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>>128821011

I do think it would be useful in some cases, but think about that rotated view, since it has been merely rotated the high notes which were originally at the top of the view would now be on the left hand side of the rotated version, and the low notes on the right

In other words, not only would it need to be rotated, it would also need to be mirrored across the vertical axis so that the low notes were on the left and high notes on the right. Not impossible, but sadly I don't know of any DAWs that do it natively on a local computer.

Apparently the web interface of Musescore can do it from google searching though
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>>128821011
did you know that AI can make midi if you ask it to, yes possibly even chatbots like Grok
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>>128821143
I've seen that the musescore website has a vertical roll but can you actually write directly on the roll or is it just a visualization of the sheet music? At any rate, the web version is premium and they even do that horseshit where they want your credit card even for the free trial, so it's not an option anyway.
>>128821313
That's actually kinda cool I might look into it, but doing it manually was also part of the point. I figured it would help me play things by ear easier down the line.

It's surprising to me that this doesn't seem to exist at all. I figured with how intuitive synthesia is for beginners there'd be some barebones midi editor in the same orientation too. I guess the people that bother to write music don't need a simplified version like that when they can just write sheets directly. I'll have another look around and I might just bite the bullet and stick with fl studio if I don't find anything.

Thanks for the help though.
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https://vocaroo.com/1dT1pvkZ8Sdp
Thoughts?
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>>128794158
SQ8l is a good free plu gin
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>>128821313
In what way? Like if you sent one a link to a song it would try to transcribe it into a MIDI file? When I was a teen before I learnt to transpose I used to always try my luck with those crappy MP3 to MIDI sites that would throw out a jumbled mess of notes all on one track. I still don’t think AI, as advanced as it is, would be able to do much better.
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>>128822547
really nice work with the melodies and breaks, anon. I'd go crazier with the chopping, but that's a matter of taste and vibe desu

https://voca.ro/1atbEsu1NX5D
remixing ho hey to try out some glitch and spectral techniques. not quite the pc music vibe I was going for, but was fun at least
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https://voca.ro/11ZOL7lqyzc1

working on this 8-bit cover of a malice mizer song, is it better give up now and save time on a dead project?

>>128821011
>>128821549
you would think this layout would be more common, given that computers usually are wider than they are tall. i've seen it in a lot of trackers, namely the one i used to compose this song with (see picrel), but i don't use a lot of DAWs. though, trackers are more vertical in layout just by design, i'm not sure if there are many that export midi files

>>128822547
go tranny go
ts at least as good as sewerslut
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>>128822547
bassline doesn't progress or sound very interesting, overall sound is ok but doesn't have that "polished" sound
very expressive bassline examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA3Bnl5_C4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J8wnUqAa-U

both basslines use melody and rhythm in different ways to serve their track's overall expression

read, learn, compare
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>>128824498
>namefag
>trackerfag
>shitty cover fag
>tranny xD

Very brave.
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>>128824628
i have no shame. i thought this was a place to get decent opinions about music, not get autistic about namefagging. i just use it so i can find my posts in the archive

also, trackers are the only thing i've seen with a horizontal piano, no hate
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another daily sketch to commemorate the pink floyd wish you were here 50th anniversary release, which we were all waiting for and apparently happened 3 days ago, but nevertheless, hit my spotify page only
today ! very exciting..

https://vocaroo.com/15imvnTNJfue
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>come back from the wageslaving yesterday
>play Resident Evil 4 instead of working on my tune
>first day I didn't do something on my track in weeks
>didn't feel great
I shouldn't fall back to my old vidya habits. Music is more fulfilling in the end.
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>>128826252
Vydia can inspire but only if Hamauzu composed for it
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>>128826252
>playin vidya in the big 25
what are you even playing?
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not making music every day is super cringe desu
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>>128826278
Backlog single player games and Dirt Rally.
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>>128826316
Ye that sucks
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Anyone get any of the UAD plugins on sale? I just saw a few synths on sale in the mixtape bundle.
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>>128826404
But my music to games ratio is getting better. So I am doing well generally for the last few months.
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>>128804038
https://vocaroo.com/1coWp0t66bwJ
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>>128811634
https://vocaroo.com/1h5fRJMLuKfc
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I like to use Sausage Fattener on my tracks. Only 3-4% or so but I like the little crunch it gives.
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>>128827894
Use the Sausage.
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>>128784224
anyone having problems making/overthinking certain genres? i'm pretty good at making stoner rock, but i want to make soul music which i'm bad at for some reason. i'm actually pretty proficient at guitar but it still doesn't come naturally to play soul music and i end up overthinking it. whereas i can shit out 5 stoner rock bangers in a day. what do?
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>>128828441
being able to shit out 5 stoner rock bangers a day isn't anything special and doesnt imply proficiency with the guitar. not saying you arent, but not becaus of the stoner rock.

and soul thrives from its vocal lines and good emotive singing i feel like
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>>128828505
i meant that i can easily do genre i’m not really that interested in, but soul music which i listen to daily i can’t get into. not sure if it’s due to me overthinking it, or just not having a large enough soul vocabulary on guitar
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>>128784224
here's a demo with mumbles that I think could be a cool song if I continued polishing it for hours.
but hot damn the ableton project is unwieldy
https://vocaroo.com/15DfEjIw2OcW
inspirations: Tennyson, Rex Orange County, bo en
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>>128828668
Soul is indeed richer harmonically so it should be a bit of a challenge
Listen closely to the songs you like and learn the guitar parts by ear
Pay attention to what the drums and the bass are doing, as the rhythm section is often to key to a genre
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>>128826974
What is different?
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>>128819967
That's where the guitar solo goes.
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Scaler 3 just went on a slight sale
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>>128830178
cool
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I've been disappointed with the few sample banks I managed to find on the torrents, were do you get your stuff?
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>>128830303
if you can't compose a masterpiece with the ST 01 pack, you don't deserve to compose at all
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>>128830546
and yet I'm gonna
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>>128784224
How do I perceive each frequency range?
How can I difference them?
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>>128830649
trail and error unironically. Thats how you develop ear, hearing notes over and over and over and over until your familiarize with them.
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>>128801448
this is good anon
congrats

>>128816813
I like this too
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>>128806804
Synthesia
is
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>>128830649
When you EQ find and use a visual EQ tool that shows you visually the whole spectrum.
Look up things like V curves that headphones use, the Harman curve.
Then learn what some terms mean in general, the mud, dark, bright, transients, cut through, sub bass range.
And look at the visualiser when you playback things. Solo tracks or combinations.
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How do I play virtual instruments? Yeah, I know about MIDI keyboard(I don't have one btw and I'm going to use PC keyboard) but how does it work? Is there a good video about it?
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>>128831991
u use your keys that u type with or click on a virtual keyboard that the program will show
like this:
https://recursivearts.com/virtual-piano/
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bump
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>all neuraldsp shit finally got cracked
based alert
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>>128833405
thanks
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>There is a specific, very expensive type called a Wet Tantalum (usually in a silver-colored military-style case). These are actually excellent for audio and are used in some legendary Neve and EMI gear. However, a single one can cost $50–$100. If you are looking at standard "teardrop" shaped Tantalums, they are best kept in power supply decoupling, not the signal path.
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I wish i had these synths:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb-Y8NibJjY
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>>128833441
Nice, grabbed myself Nolly X.
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>>128837275
>>128833441
audiostorrent.com
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>>128833441
It sounds like ai slop. Is it sloppa?
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>>128837459
No, you might be thinking of Neural Amp Modeler.
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>>128837459
no check audiostorrents.com they are right they leaked and now everyone can just download their virtual synths FOR FREE lul.
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anyone cooked something fun today?
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>>128838116
Doing automations after a first pass of the complete mix. Doing well.
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>>128838276
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which instrument is ideal when starting out? the one that you yearn or a fucking MIDI keyboard fuck you cunt.
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rate my first DJ mix:
https://vocaroo.com/11dhnfBsCuNd
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>>128806785
>>128794987
>>128789925
started playing with the mix:

https://voca.ro/14nydahYyZTW
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>>128839147
excellent mash-up, better than any trash from sewerslvt that's for sure
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>>128839223
I like the general EQ feel of the first one and the guitar. Less bright, sounded older-era song. The new is not wrong, it's just me.
>>128806785
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I am slightly behind by a couple of weeks for my song release because I am exhausted from wageslaving, but ok. Next 2 weeks will be chill with more time for music.
>>128838517
Hadn't realized before how far automation can go nowadays. You can automate anything you can think of.
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>>128839249
:) I'll make some more vintagey sounding stuff soon. thank you for listening!
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>>128839313
I do envision this sort of 'darkness' of the first one for my electronic tunes. It's good.
I should play around with tape emulations and similar final mix tools.
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massive x xy grid for endless bass :0
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>own a 27 inch monitor with 1080p resolution
>swap that for a 43 inch tv with 4K resolution
<amazed how much stuff you can fit on the screen
>feel like batman while producing
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https://voca.ro/1gouhwEDmNTd

cant make this sound cleaner, i've compressed everything with kick input, and compressed when vocals briefly kick in, but i think it sounds messy all around

i have zero experience in mastering, just ear-balling lol

there is no excessive reverb, basically no send reverb

what can i do not to drown everything in bass and ambient sounds?
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>>128841480
luv the melody
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>>128839223
Sounds like Sonic Adventure 2 maybe its because of the intro. Sounds like an Eggman stage.
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>>128841532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XrDr-CPHZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYHKtPE9edU
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>>128839223
>>128841591
>>128841532
actually one of my favorite video games. funny how that happens.

Here's another tune I'm working on:
https://voca.ro/16O4iUfbGb8M
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>>128837773
they're guitar/bass amp sims not synths
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reminder that if you have a mic you have infinite percussion noises

https://vocaroo.com/16iLxWyTcP0M
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have been thinking about how 16 bit/44.1khz is the most we can perceive, but in reality how much more information there is in a 24bit or 32bit 384kyz file. might get a more scientific understanding of it in the new year. might not though because that takes the fun out of it.
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>>128843509
>perceived
yes

i recently bothered to look it up actually, as this was a blind spot of mine:
24 bit gives you 144 as opposed to 96 db of headroom which, in practice, matters a lot.
t. feels dumb as fuck for missing that so long that shit 100% ruined tons of sounds
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>>128843631
>24 bit gives you 144 as opposed to 96 db of headroom which, in practice, matters a lot.
ehhhhhhhh idk... it's kinda like dynamic range in cameras... i mean, who is really going to notice? pixel-peeping for audioheads. will have to look up if there are any flagrant demonstrations of the difference.
i think 24/32 bit is really for utmost control over your sound, but if you were using 16 bit, you could make the same moves in the box and nobody would notice outside of audio geeks.
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>>128843681
are you going to process your image in any way? blow it up?
are you going to compress or distort? just the one time?
yes it absolutely matters dude lol.
we’re not talking about the end product of the received file, it’s the accumulated difference after a starting point
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>>128843724
it would be interesting to take a song, have 24bit and 16bit samples and processing, make the same moves and compare
meanwhile, in 7bit land:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhDC-VStQmU

the overly-clean and "perfect" sound of higher bit-depths and sampling rates... maybe it's harder to get the song sounding right with those and many fall short? idk js
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>>128843771
context matters. *the sound* of this music is obviously low bit and is supposed to be noisey and minimal. they intentionally created an aesthetic based on the medium, as artists do.
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constantly rediscovering your reverb game is LACKING

hurts every time man fuck
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>>128843856
i don't think they intended the aesthetic, it happened upon them that that was how the technology worked, those were the sounds that were possible and coincidentally they sounded really fucking cool. very limited though, but in my opinion those limitations inspired some excellent music for VG.
you're right that context matters - with modern aesthetics we can look back and compare, contrast and even combine the old aesthetics with the new for interesting results.
some people become infatuated with replicating the sounds as they were - the modern emulations are not perfect! the DSP produces a different signal! in my own experience I've used two different processors with modern DAWs, think processors 7 or 8 generations apart, and in the same project file that used a large amount of processing, the sound was noticeably different. apparently this is not meant to happen.
less can be more. if it sounds good it is good. but, to my ear, im hearing a lot of SHIT nowadays. a lot of music from amateurs that has a sort of "toybox" sound. plastic RC car from china sound. do you remember the sound of early 2010s dubstep? horrible usage of compression and limiting made everything sound like a wet paper bag splatting against the wall. 16 bit or 32 bit, im pretty sure the results would have been the same.
one of my favorites of this era is Flux Pavilion and he heavily leaned into "8-bit" simple synths and basses, though Knife Party and Skrillex had production levels higher than anyone else.
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>>128844067
i already got the sense that you were a fag and now i have reason to suspect you're chuzo so i'm disengaging.
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>>128844104
>bro mad because he cant make a song better than overlord menu music
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>>128844024
a lot of the top tier mainstream music uses expensive hardware reverbs and anons still think it's mostly the songwriting that matters kek
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>deep house / edm

i've been working on mixing this down and mastering, is it ready for primetime? I've been struggling to get the bass to sit right with everything to where it doesn't sound like its pulsing.

>>128842916
weeoooshjjj / 10. i like the artifacting

>>128841944
ooo this is fun. Not sure why but it sounds like something mac demarco would make while tripping balls. I def dig the changeup in tempo ~@2:00 and the glock later on, very groovy. The whole thing just reminds me of a coked up 70s city fight sequence.

>>128841480
its missing the low end to me. You've got your walking bassline in the background, buuut it feels like its an octave too high (or at least not layered enough to have a sub stand out). You have such good tension build up with the snare @3:12, yet it kinda resolves into a meh moment due to the lack of low end (at least what i think). Def like the track and creativity, i just think it could be so much more.
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>>128839223
sounds like avant garde inxs, i think it fucks

>>128839147
ibeza ready, rip it and ship it

>>128825742
that synth goes hard, reminds me of some old school wolf gang gartner. Your sub is too muddy though, clean that up and it'll slap

>>128822547
needs to go harder with the breaks, its a bit too tame for me. Like after "activate", it should be going ape shit with rolls and stutters. You'll get it right though, i know it ;)
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there's an old meme that goes "it's not what you say, it's how you say it"). some modern hiphop and such is like mental illness bottled up and turned into a "song" but the production and audio engineering is on point which legitimizes it.
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returning to the dirt and my stupid old ways

https://vocaroo.com/1k7oEFNAcRO0
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>>128819583
grade A chip tune, it fucks. My only complaint is that i feel like the main synth is too clean for the sound you're going for. Feels like a bunch of gameboys lined up in chorus next to some dude with a trumpet (if that makes sense)

>>128818613
>what genre is this
sounds like ambient trip hop to me. Its good, but if you sharpened it up to where it didn't sound muffled on the high end, itd be so much easier to lose yourself to

>>128816813
banger, i could float to this.
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https://voca.ro/1hPMDrrb8W51
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>>128844678
This is okay. Who is singing? I would make the lead melody louder and phrase looser. Wants lack of control. Hard drums. Deep. Deep lyric.
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>>128841944
I would make the high end leads louder, more prominent, and find a colder phrasing, like how you found in the guitar sim in the second part. Maybe I just hate “bright” or melodies that somehow teflect a behavioral convention that I find repulsive. Something about your phrasing in the first part, turning circles, reminds me of talking to my faggot mom, spaghetti. Maybe the phrases just seem too cliche in the sense that it kind of sounds like a blaxploitation soundtrack. Like bow-chica-wow-wow strutting.
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I don't have Serum yet, I noticed this discount, what do you think?
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>>128846199
Well nevermind, I found a coupon code which puts it at €69, bought it.
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>>128846228
code was FLASH btw
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>>128845199
Finally people are realizing that Music is unironically Magic. This is not a joke this art is literally sorcery, read Magic Books and all the top dogs of Occultism and such say that Music has this power. Even Nietzsche in Birth of Tragedy but he was a philosopher.
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>>128841944
This is good but get to the middle part sooner aka the guitar / bass riffs, I skipped over a bit (I typically refuse doing this I like taking songs in-full)
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>>128844678
sub and low bass should be pretty static and have low dynamic range therefore if you put any sort of lfo tool/ducking/sidechain on the bass and if the bass is rich and responsible for most of the low end then you get the pulsing.

just dont move the low end as much and in the end if you say you want to sidechain the kick and the bass you still say "one gets the domain xyz"

i would try to just split the ducking of the bass. get duck :3

also watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTj4RE1Y9ZE

it is not just the pulsing it is also all the groove stealing resonances that happen once you move the bass' volume.

your track sounds pretty different loud vs silent, serban always says to make sure to listen on a lot of loudness levels.
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>>128846444
>get duck
Serious question: what is the point of these VSTs that just do a thing that you can do already with stock plugins? Is it just to make the process a little quicker so your workflow is faster? I get the impression that's what most of that Shaperbox stuff is as well, but I've never used their stuff, so can't say for certain.
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>>128847427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjE2lfPVfNA
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How would you guys turn something like this Zelda song to a LoFi version? https://youtu.be/Dac_6-edN4E?si=-mf88oXjx-wGlCTz
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>>128849310
a fuck ton of people already did that
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>>128849310
bro missed the last 15 years of music lol
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>>128849414
>>128849447
What would you guys make instead? I was just thinking of something related to the Zelda OST for fun
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>>128847427
Shaperbox is one of the few plugins I own and use. I stick to stock plugins when I can but it's so much faster to use to directly get the sound I want. Having multiple modules you can stack in one plugin with the LFO controls makes the sum a bit more than its parts.

I used to think these plugins were memes but I think even for simple sidechaining, they're worth using over the traditional method for electronic music. Having explicit control of the envelope curve for volume is objectively better and replaces needing to use a compressor/expander, gate, or transient shaper and keeping those settings in sync.
With sidechains, you can end up with multiple ghost midi tracks if you only want to sidechain on quarters or eights and don't want to sidechain every hit on a kick, snare, or other element. You can midi or audio trigger the envelopes too.

If you use FL, then you probably don't need it since there are ways to do almost everything in it with the automation lanes, but the pen tool is a lot better than what most daws can do. Timeshaper is an example of something that's just better than gross beat with the scope in the draw zone and other daws don't have a similar effect
https://youtu.be/PmX8UY8q6oA?t=63



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