pop stars won't like this (especially Taylor Swift and k-pop), also Youtube decided to pull their data from Billboard charts for some reason, not that it'll change anything
>>128843246this is an indie music board.kidding. In all seriousness, who is the biggest winner? olivia dean might have a shot at #1starting january?
These fuckin' services and the others before them provide only relatively vague hints as to how they calculate their ratings. Even in the olden days the radio numbers were largely pulled from their asses, now it's been proved that you can bot your Spotify tune stream and get 70 million views a month and get on the trending charts and that actually works vs. payola now.There is no independent third-party auditing of any streaming site - none of any. So obviously there is a huge potential to game the system. It's worse today even though there could be technical measures (an industry body "stream verifier" of some kind) taken to ensure these streams are unique, human visitors and not just some script or Indian. Expect the hit charts to be dominated by even WORST garbage. The thing is, it barely matters any more.
They should boost tiktok views or whatever tiktok uses 10x and bring a new generation of artists to replace all the old boomers hanging on by their legacy nostalgia.
>>128843246Youtube leaving won't really affect billboard charts that much. Youtube music is not really used that much in the US compared to Spotify, Apple Music and Amazon Music for premium streams. Only ~3% of premium streaming is done from Youtube music. The reason why Youtube left is because they want normal streams to be given the same amount of weight as premium streams, and Billboard told them no, so they stopped sharing data with them. In theory Youtube is right, Billboard hot 100 is not supposed to be a sales chart, that's what the hot 200 is, it's supposed to be a representation of what everyone is listening to at the moment, so premium streams shouldn't have more weight. Also Tiktok music should 100% be included because the majority of genz and gen alpha consume music through it compared to Spotify, but it's not. Either way, the hot 100 has been outdated for a while now, it still gives too much emphasis on radio play and physical album sales, none of which have been relevant at all in a decade.
>>128844820>>128845003Tiktok "hits" are mostly memes, not stuff people really like (Aphex Twin has a track with 50 billion views or something)
>>128845066I mean, it's what people are listening to. A stream counts in spotify if you listen to 15-30 seconds, depending on the song length. Why shouldn't a 30 second tiktok count? There's tons of tiktok meme songs that literally everyone knows now that have never appeared on the hot 100. I guarantee you if you show a 20 year old the Billboard top 40 he's not gonna know 80% of them, but if you show him the top 40 most viral tiktok songs he's gonna know all of them.
>>128844344bot streams are very easy to detect and Spotify & co have obvious incentives to remove them
>>128845172>I guarantee you if you show a 20 year old the Billboard top 40 he's not gonna know 80% of themsee picrel, young people who like music are definitely using music platforms i.e. not Tiktok which is not (or not really) about music
>>128845188>bot streams are very easy to detectYou're missing the point. What if there's little to no incentive to detect them? Who is Spotify's customer, industry or the user?
>>128845326>people on tik tok got the short preview of a song first>then they streamed the whole thingI don't know if this is saying what you suppose.
>>128844820There are no new generation of artists worth shit you dumbass lol. Why do you think all we have is legacy boomers. You delusional fucking twit
>>128845188Fuck off corporate ass kissing fag. Are you getting paid by Spotify? You people are pathetic
