Merry Christmas!This thread is dedicated to the discussion of traditional heavy metal and its many sub-genres. Hard rock that is both historically and musically adjacent to traditional metal is also welcomed. Lastly, if this is your first time posting here please view the link below:More info: https://pastebin.com/FeVuNsmd>Is [genre/band/album] fit for /trad/?If you have to ask this, it probably isn’t and you should take what you want to talk about somewhere else.CHARTShttps://pastebin.com/zQQCuv5nUSEFUL LINKShttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1luaLZfavSeXui9RkO1PZ3U5gAE1XHfkH?usp=drive_link - Giant archive of old metal & rock magazines.https://www.furia.com/em/all1987.html - Scrapes Metal Archives/Metallum for every release by year, genre, etc.https://www.metal-archives.com/ - Search for your favorite bands and look under the “similar artists” tab.https://en.metal-tracker.com/ - Bittorrent tracker from Russia, in order to use it you need to have a registered account. https://www.progarchives.com/ - Same deal as Metal Archives but for progressive rock, metal, and everything else under the prog umbrella. https://rateyourmusic.com/ - Search for albums, charts and lists here. (Some early trad albums have metal as a secondary rather than primary; so when looking for music from the early-mid ‘70s make sure you include heavy metal as a secondary in your filter as well.)https://www.slsknet.org/news/node/1 - P2P application for downloading albums. It is your best friend!Vote for the next album here: https://strawpoll.com/wby5QBRPdyAPrevious thread: >>128808987
1987's chart is almost done, reply to this post with your suggestions!1 Vote = Put on the list2 Votes = Greater priority3+ Votes = Automatic inclusion
Good album, really liked the guitarwork but some of the songs on the B-side are so-sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nFgZce47Qwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRrnheWSzyghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_LNpu5UvA
Early USA metal that's reminiscent of Thin Lizzy and '70s JP, give it a shothttps://files.catbox.moe/p9ky82.rar
BLASTING
>>128901539
>>128901550Gigabased
>>128901670it's been a while since i blasted it desu, forgot how good the opener and space child arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_-fAcGNXSwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw9kskIJuK8
>>128899866TNT - Tell No Tales
>>128901697counted>>1289017423 votes, added
>>128901539What's everyone's favorite on this album? The title track will be an obvious choice for many, but I'd say either Flight of the Warrior or Johnny's Back.
>>128899844Holy based
>>128901781Probably track 3 or 4.
>>128901781flight of the warrior and bloodstreets
Pilgrim is one of their best songs but the rest of the record's about on par with their last, good but nothing outstanding
>>128901781Fight or Fall, Bloodstreets, Sign of the Crimson Storm, Johnny's Back in that order are the ones I go back to all the time
Tank - Shellshock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzcUGZkbG8Tank - Struck by Lightning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT0pF1Yq4wcTank - Turn Your Head Around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ifFrItqtoITank - Heavy Artillery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j017Gvml9d0Tank - [He Fell in Love with A] Stormtrooper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAX1jt9XBeY
Sort of inconsistent but the highs are in the goddamned stratospherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8JEW4RsVPM (kino)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyTAVNh6gtAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEzGLQ1ZwAY
EZOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oflc_KtYz7Y
>>128904468>WAKEY WAKEEEEEEEEEEEY
>>128901539https://youtu.be/WEQnzs8wl6E?si=nwjDOSNFxwK9kdE5https://youtu.be/FLTchCiC0T0?si=smdxWG9mbtfoVpANhttps://youtu.be/v1TKVseg72s?si=fD4itUOWNjHROKuJhttps://youtu.be/Z6j63ImEKyo?si=q-gFhY-g0JrM-yV9https://youtu.be/Ckom3gf57Yw?si=LpH0iz32bLYEfn3_
>>128899866>>128901750reposting since post got deletedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln16UPZNPTk>>128905181i love how similar the opening track just like something from hell is to the one on honour & blood, similar lengths too.
Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI24kRRM8mg
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=1HT7v09KhF4Anyone listen to Piledrive's stay ugly.most of the songs on this album were written by the head of virgin steele.
merry fucking christmashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqnl0LGWwek
>>128921082Good Yule
>>128921082Merry christmas brohttps://youtu.be/z03ZRYh4GKY?si=5SaOpdPJZrBFobE-
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=m-zYndeZjooWould this fit in the thread? Or is it too thrash/groove?
I was gonna try to post something christmas related but i can't think of anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OtzJtp-EMI guess it mentions ice and snow.
https://youtu.be/gJKUpxNgORc?si=6F7tTKKGyqCQ_jso
>>128925991This is one of the few Zep songs I like, really wish the rest of III was of the same vein
MTV Metal Mania - 1985 https://youtu.be/caa_uil1KJw?si=3ON40p85dsDWjGxUNot a complete broadcast (the original uploader skipped a few videos) but there’s plenty still here.
>>128923840cool song, really like the riff>Would this fit in the thread? 50/50 but i've been considering removing groove metal from the blacklist for a while desu
1993. A Christian metal band invented Symphonic Metal.
>>128929388Either that or another Christian band. But I find it a bit more on the gothy side.
>>128929388You can trace the origins of symphonic metal (much like any other melodic style) to Rainbow. Savatage - Gutter Ballet from 1989 is an important release, too.
>>128929435If you say so! I love Rainbow. I'd love to give the nod to them ultimately....I feel like all of the elements came together by the 90s though.
>>128928653yeah the first riff is incredible, thats why i posted it. It's one of those songs that has a riff that immediately catches you. Quite different stylistically, but Port Royal is another great example: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=bFYKkOFNKjw
>>128929388>>128929408wikipedia calls it "Gothic Symphonic Metal":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saviour_Machine
>>128930649A lot of the modern elements are there, but his vocals are kind of Sisters of Mercy-ish. Not something we hear in symphonic metal bands since (afaik).
>>128930636>yeah the first riff is incredible, thats why i posted it. It's one of those songs that has a riff that immediately catches you.it really is, it lost me when the vocals came into play but otherwise it's great.>Port Royalthis song's miles better by virtue of the vocals not being ass
>>128923840Prong is like the bridge of old and nu-metal. They were like thrash and industrial guys, but influenced nu metal big time. Tommy Victor IS a riffmeister though. Still like a hired gun for other bands. Like Danzig.
>>128930724i'll probably check savior machine out. apparently they're also considered prog as well.>>128930736i like the vocals, but while it's probably not as divisive as harsh vocals, it's still probably something like thrash/punk vocals which aren't everyone's thing.
>>128931101>i'll probably check savior machine out. apparently they're also considered prog as well.I wouldn't quite go that far. They're not that technical, but it is cool sounding.
>>128931146Progarchives considers Savior Machine to be prog:https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5387>>128928653>50/50 but i've been considering removing groove metal from the blacklist for a while desuIs there a reason?>>128930789Nu metal isn't trad metal*, but aside from that does the genre count as metal?Some people say it's not really influenced by metal (like uh metal archives). I've heard some people say that nu-metal bands have very little in common with with eachother, and that it was more like a scene than a musical genre.*I can probably find a few exceptions or borderline songs from nu-metal bands.
>>128931220>Nu metal isn't trad metal*For sure. I'm just saying he came from the Thrash world, but influenced a lot of those nu metal dudes.I'd say nu metal is metal though. At least the ones who didn't do too much rapping or any at all.
>>128931220>https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5387Not to my ears. They're just not that skilled. But they had a unique sound. A lot of the symphonic stuff is there, but you got a sort of Bowie esque/Sisters of Mercy vocalist (if you recall, even the name Saviour Machine is a Bowie song).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPdB6w0jOHI
>>128931220>Is there a reason?Pretty much comes down to groove metal coming directly from thrash and quite a few established thrash bands switched to it in the ‘90s. There’s just too much historical and musical connection to not have it set in stone.
>>128890602>Glam is about getting pussy power is about Lord of the RingsAn example of an exception. Here's a Power Metal song, that's to some extent about both:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT-TlX7bzGQ
it's not literally about those 2 exact topics, but it kinda fits in those broad categories of song topics.
>>128931271>For sure. I'm just saying he came from the Thrash world, but influenced a lot of those nu metal dudes.I'm only heard a few songs from prong, but I also know they had a lot of groove metal stuff. Which people call an ancestor of nu-metal.>I'd say nu metal is metal though. At least the ones who didn't do too much rapping or any at all.Vocal delivery might change sub-genre (like how "cookie monster vocals" are a signature of death metal), but IMO it wouldn't make something not-metal. Though you may have just been saying they're less likely to have metal riffs.
>>128899866Are you going to do yearly charts for the 90's as well?
>>128933005When the time comes, yes. Though I admit that the prospect is somewhat intimidating. That period roughly spanning 1992-1997, not withholding a few outliers here and there - is going to be tricky. There’s plenty of great stoner, doom, and power records, but I haven’t come across much trad (let alone the good shit) from those years. The ‘90s charts will likely be dominated by those aforementioned sub-genres.
Dokken - Into the Fire (video) https://youtu.be/XQ9XcMybcX8?si=Qfol1FVYRr8DuUdk
>>128931296I listened to the first 2 songs on that first album and they're good. The Christian topic isn't there in a very overt or obnoxious way (at least so far).>Not to my ears. They're just not that skilledIf you're wondering what progarchives considers to be prog, they have a definition on the page here. It's not solely about virtuosity.https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition
Would you guys call AC/DC a metal band? https://youtu.be/wLoWd2KyUro?si=Jl-wHVeoNXDXUw20
>>128934327Nope, but in the 70s they were a great rock ‘n’ roll band.https://youtu.be/7S69xWkV4uM?si=rTIcboIK23q1gfY-
>>128934327from what I can tell at the moment, they only have a few songs that could be considered outright metal.
>>128934121Yeah, it's not overt.On the virtuosity thing, Christian 70s rock did have a prog level artist. Phil Keaggy. He's honestly one of the best guitarists on acoustic, but he's 70s stuff is rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMs76IfkQtk
>>128934582my bad wrong album cover pic.
>>128934582Not related to your point, and I haven't listened to much stryper, but the original version of that album artwork is better.
Def Leppard - It Don’t Matter https://youtu.be/DKBWlnPYA5Y?si=RykGjvHvfHDBiUKdOTtN has really become a personal favorite of mine the past few weeks. Such a warm, comfy sound.
>>128934706They're super talented too, but they're much more overt. Considering most hair metal is considered a bit cheesy now, I think their brand of cheesiness holds up. I want to slay demons to some of it haha.
did some revisions to the pastebin, do you guys think anything should be changed or not
>>128935005Seems fine to me.
wishboneashchadshttps://youtu.be/8_2frMzyEPA
>>128931369>Pretty much comes down to groove metal coming directly from thrash and quite a few established thrash bands switched to it in the ‘90s. There’s just too much historical and musical connection to not have it set in stone.>>128935005is it true that groove metal is just thrash metal played at half speed?
>>128935571>is it true that groove metal is just thrash metal played at half speed?Yes.
>>128935571>is it true that groove metal is just thrash metal played at half speed?Pretty much, but there's a bit more to it than that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYfljBCpmE4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8DJ49F6t24 (Skid Row isn't a groove band but this is definitely a groove song.)You listen to these two then compare them to your average thrash song, and there's definitely a lot of similarities but there's more of a rhythm to the guitarwork.
>>128935615>Skid Row isn't a groove band but this is definitely a groove song.what about their 3rd album?
>>128900467only song i've heard from them (or that album) was heart of a lion
>>128935878i don't remember enough about subhuman race to say for certain but i remember it being a blend of both heavy and groove
>>128899844kek, nice OP.Apparently Lizzy did a collab with the Sex Pistols named the Griddis, and thry released a christmass song.
>>128941989>kek, nice OP.thanks bro>Apparently Lizzy did a collab with the Sex Pistols named the Griddis, and thry released a christmass song.i'm listening to it right now, it's pretty fucking cool desuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q1mKdd4_uU
>>128899866Do Anthrax and Death Angel really fit in there? I like Anthrax but they are thrash.Also, not an album I know, but the one song I love from it, which is the best commie track probably ever recorded in heavy metal, is in there, Future World. I also guess a lot of anons woyld agree to Keeper pt.1 being there.
>>128942016>Do Anthrax and Death Angel really fit in there? I like Anthrax but they are thrash.the yearly charts are all encompassing, they're not limited to any one genre>I also guess a lot of anons woyld agree to Keeper pt.1 being there.yeah it has 5 votes lol
>>128927690I respect the hell out of them, but I just can't into most of their stuff.
>>128927690>>128942473Thoughts on no quarter?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSM0jj-hZtw
>>128942535It's okay. I think Planet Caravan does the dreamy, space rock thing better.
Yo! Think I'm done with /metal/. Too many bad actors there or something. Kpop seems friendly, but isn't really...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAI2QOBMlTA
EYES OF A STRANGER!! \\m//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4duZjxusGM
>>128942666>>128942706I'll say it again and again. Nobody sounded better than Tate in the 80s. Not Halford, not Dickinson, not even Dio.
>>128943391100%. Tate is awesome. I've seen him live a couple of times in the past years. Always a great show. A few years back he had a younger band for the Queensryche stuff, and they weren't as good, but he sorted that out pretty quickly. Tate is awesome live nowadays and the 'Queensryche' band arn't.
>>128931220>Nu metal isn't trad metal*, >*I can probably find a few exceptions or borderline songs from nu-metal bands.This might be a borderline example, since some of the verses almost rapping rather than singing. And while the main riff is pretty "trad", the drums and bass might be less so.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=j2R6uT7uLFgThe main riff in "Last Resort" is very close to the one used in the second half of this iron maiden instrumental called "Genghis Khan":https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=tPUypo-aKDc
If alternative Metal isn't trad nu metal certainly isnt
>>128943856i have no idea what alt metal even is
>>128944087heavy metal + alt rock, but it almost always takes much more from the latter than the former.
>>128944121...ok maybe i dont know what alt-rock is either....
>>128944287i can't remember what it exactly is, but alt rock to me is rock that has influences different than the standard blues/psychedelia that hard rock and heavy metal is influenced by. could be rap, hip hop, punk, etc. i usually point to stuff like red hot chili peppers and radiohead when someone asks me what alt rock is
>>128934582>>128934822Manowar of all bands had a song about Armaggedon that directly referenced a bunch of bible verses:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ2vh5Z6SZ4 Manowar isn't a christian band (and they've got a song on their next album about serving satan), but I've seen songs from Stryper that were less blatant about their references than that one.
>>128945740Perhaps they were hoping for Armageddon, since I think it gets rid of all Christians
bump
>>128901539Hello, /trad/. It's been a few dayshttps://youtu.be/JW04befoh-U?si=Xw8xKHlIIdRgzkFGMaybe this isn't quite a metal song, but I've been quite obsessed with it. The tension those keyboards build is immense, the singing is so emotional, the solos are so cathartic. Great album, great song.
>>128950493I love this song too.
>>128949542
I decided to listen to the Todd La Torre Queensrÿche albums tonight. I had other shit to listen to too, so I only finished the self titled album and four songs on Condition Critical. No songs really stands out on the first listen. But one thing I noticed is that it do sounds like Todd found/used more of his own voice on Condition Critical, rather than trying to sound like Geoff Tate all the time.
>>128955605Queensrÿche should eat shitt. Overkill
>>128955761Strange choice of a band to name drop in a "we fucking hate you" section.
>>128955931I didn't find anything after a quick search so no idea why Overkill hated them. At least they aren't on the "may you get butt-fucked by a rhino with AIDS" list.
>>128956125Yeah I couldn't find anything either. Both bands had barely gotten their start in 1985 when Feel the Fire came out and one is from Seattle and the other is from New Jersey. That might as well been two different countries in the 80s.A theory is that Overkill read about Queensrÿche in metal magazines like Kerrang and thought they were getting too much praise.
>>128956510It feels like there must be something else behind it. I'm sure a lot of other bands were getting praise in metal magazines too, yet Queensrÿche is the only one mentioned.
>>128945740They looked Italian. lol. I bet they were at least Catholic growing up. Like Dio. He had a fascination with biblical imagery too, but wasn't religious himself.
>>128955761Quick rundown? Never heard of a feud between them.
never forget what they took from you
>>128934582damn that shit is nice. reminds of late 70s wishbone ash that were also prog/hard rock with jazz undertones.
>>128955761>make 11/10 absolutely disgusting heavy NWOBHM-style debut>pivots and makes 5/10 thrash for the rest of their careerone of the biggest disappointment of the 80s
>>128962327The Years of Decay is very good
>>128955761>QueensrÿcheThat band is not that good, and its style is not good for metal at all.
Who is your favorite metal vocalist? Mine used to be Ronnie James Dio, and then he got replaced by Graham Bonnet.https://youtu.be/7FG7e2GlFJU?si=hurES86cJzy2MqHJ
>>128965066Maybe Lemmy.
>>128965066Chester Bennington obviously
>>128965066John Arch, Rob Halford and Dio
>>128965066Not sure.
Tonight I've listened toAnthrax - We've Come for You AllAt Vance - The Evil in YouBlack Label Society - The Blessed HellrideAnd I finished Queensrÿche - Condition HümanWe've Come for You All is really good. A great groove metal album with some sick drumming. Best drumming I've heard from Charlie Benante.The Evil in You is a good power metal album. Catchy melodies and Mats Levén's vocals are always top notch.The Blessed Hellride is also good. I thought it sounded like a mix of Ozzy with Zakk Wylde and Alice in Chains heaviest moments.
>>128968420That Anthrax cover has 3 Charlie Benantes.
Too bad I didn't notice this before I started listening. Strange that the album doesn't use this order if it's the intended one.>The album has a conceptual storyline, but the album's sequence does not follow the story. The conceptual order is shown on the insert/booklet and is as follows:>1. Grapes of Fear>2. Locked Out>3. Across the Universe>(4. Wizard Force)>5. Retaliation Positive>(6. Galactos)>7. Warp 7>8. Killing Fields>9. R.M.U.>10. Terrion
>>128969185Strange? More like one of the most retarded decisions I've ever heard a band make on an album. That's something you should be locked up in an asylum for.
>>128969793Hopefully I'll remember to fix the track order next listen.
>>128969836Apparently it was their producer (Frank Bornemann) who thought the quality of sound would suffer horrifically if an LP side were longer than 20 minutes, so they cut two songs.Still, no excuse for not putting the correct sequencing on the CD that came out the same year or any of the reissues.
>>128970215They could still have done the correct order minus the two cut songs on the LP.
>>128972336Bitches get stitches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7lXdVtzzpQ
>>128972443Wait, is posting thrash OK here? lol
>>128972336Interesting behavior
>>128901539Pretty neat find. Worth listening if you're craving more Kyuss
>>128972474yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDw_849MGOIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1opvOcS9Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUuBnsCN06Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRYhxoeTzRghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whI2_xmCBKg
>>128972474Depends on the type of thrash.
>>128972474https://pastebin.com/FeVuNsmd
Dream Evil are so fucking good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzUgDMDQ1c
One of the most underrated power metal albums.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOAv09wt4qE
>>128901539https://youtu.be/mKlF9o2R3cI?si=K8eaJ6Ey3984C_Xv
>>128980392Nice. Great timing too. I've just restarted my listening and rating all the best and most essential hard rock/heavy metal/alternative albums from 1968 to today and I'm on 2003 now and probably will be for another week or so. I'm gonna have to add that to the list.
>>128899844Good power metal with double kick drums?
>>128972336Simp>>128972344Based
>>128927690Its my dad's favorite Zeppelin record
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=mlU_48Qx0o0>California man, I'm white line, "Homer"What's this mean?https://genius.com/Wasp-mean-man-lyrics
>>128981298'Manowar' and 'Virgin Steele'.Not all of their songs have it, but some do.
>>128982141>Saying "I'm white line" often refers to being on a long drive, referencing the lane divider on a highwayOr a line of cocaine/amphetamine, I guess"Homer" could be "home run", but probably not in this context
>>128965541>Rob Halford and DioAre vocals in these guys style (especially the latter) rarer nowadays in metal?I dont really have a good sample size, but it feels like harsh vocals are easier to find now in general for metal.
>>128965066>>128968280I'm not gonna pick favorites but some not mentioned yet in response include:Blacky Lawless, Eric Adams, David DeFeis, Ozzy Osbourne>>128965096Lemmy wasn't a "conventionally good" vocalist but he was memorable. Another in that category, is Dave Mustaine, but they don't sound similar.
bumper cars
>>128980392Too bad their other two albums were lame af.
Great record but much like The New Order it pales in comparison to their debuthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgkStbt7vqghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPX2YEQc3tEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kmwPnDmxSY
>>128988498True. Wasted potential.
Pretty cool album, apparently these guys were one of the earlier bands on the Swedish scene - formed in 1979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5eyFyFwn54https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VBL4nEDFCQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f_TM_Bd9Fchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0-UYYLGvlo
Happy new year /trad/friends.
OP here, just want to take this time to wish everyone ITT a happy new year. You guys are awesome, and I hope you have a great fucking holiday.KEEP ON ROCKIN'!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15xlMohu9os
First Yngwie album, and I wish I had more to say but this is just very solid, well-performed metal. Trilogy Suite Op:5 was my favorite but every song here's at the very least pretty good. Vocalist was good too, he obviously takes after Dio but it's an admirable effort.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBnJv6rImVe-RPKlUvr0U97RFxhs5gBLA
Thank you GOAThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXe6yaykQ2o
>>128991627>solo album coming out this yearhell yeah man. what style do you think he's gonna do? something more doom-y?
New Tony Iommi solo album this year. Hope its good.
>>128991627>>128991731Haha, didn't see these posts before I posted mine.
>>128991845what singer(s) will it be with?
1987's chart is done! Cheers to a happy new year, tradbros!
>>128992654
Blackfoot - Highway Song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbNrJWgG_24Really, really fucking good song. I listened to the LP it's from too and while it was good too, this just stole the whole show for me.
>>128992777is blackfoot really a metal band? Aside from Train Train.
>>128993589Apparently Marauder's a pretty metallic release from what I've read, but outside of that they're pretty firmly a hard/southern rock band.
>>128993589>is blackfoot really a metal band? Train Train.For those unaware:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NnN_Oz1U0RE
>>128901539https://youtu.be/j4XS_xvsKKw?si=z3ZmlGEY_sNr85ieHoly shit, this live version bangs
>>128992654good shit. you got an imgur or something with all the /trad/ yearly charts?>>128972443mike scacia was fucking insane. one of the best tremolos ever.
>>128997487Look at the OP.>https://pastebin.com/zQQCuv5n
>>128997973my bad thanks
>>128990100happy new year /trad/ bros
>>128899844Is Alternative Metal acceptable or is this strictly Heavy, NWOBHM, Speed, Power, Doom and clean vocal Thrash only?https://youtu.be/1mGI-_j_i6chttps://youtu.be/EJQCKl-g9zAhttps://youtu.be/lYwHxYVJApU
>>128990296>>128990100Happy new year rockers.>>128992654Just out of curiosity, why didn't Keeper pt.1 make it?
>>129001606It's there.Row 2 column 4.
>>129001557Generally alt metal isn't accepted here unless it's still clearly rooted in traditional metal (like Soundgarden), and this sounds adjacent enough. IMO third song's borderline>or is this strictly Heavy, NWOBHM, Speed, Power, Doom and clean vocal Thrash only?Glam metal, classic hard rock and (now) groove metal are also accepted>>129001606>Just out of curiosity, why didn't Keeper pt.1 make it?But it did lol. Second row.
>>129001626>Glam metalBased:https://youtu.be/DKzronh_BMohttps://youtu.be/r2ZzWL2blP0https://youtu.be/h8E6IMlPTv4https://youtu.be/LQvTPtYn-JIhttps://youtu.be/iCtdaKOPsMohttps://youtu.be/QHUCyAeVcjs
>>129001712Cool car
Great album.
>>128982170Already know them>>128930636>>128930736Running Wild is excellent, probably my favorite power metal band. Plus I have history books on pirates and "conquistadores", too. That helps. /mulit/ represent.>>128930649Now I have to check them out
Any especial love for Candlemass in this general?
>>129001626>groove metalA bit strange because lots of Groove Metal take more than a handful of influences from Extreme Metal. Sure, you get goofier or more accessible bands like White Zombie but also Metalcore/Groove hybrids like Merauder. Are these acceptable?https://youtu.be/_LrbjimFbDAhttps://youtu.be/YaVGfMfN65shttps://youtu.be/SAY6G99AZ6whttps://youtu.be/9KQL6xPn5HY
>>128899844I knew just by by looking at the cover that this record would've been great
>>129006493First three are fine, fourth (well, the first song anyways) has what sounds like death growling and isn't.
>>129006493White Zombie used to be a noise rock band
>>128899844We should make a modern trad classic chart like the ones in the op. Pic related is an obvious inclusion
>>129008013I think that will happen in time.
>>129008013This one as well
>>129006045love me some candlemass
>>129008013let me know. i could fill a whole chart myself
While on the topic of modern trad: the album of the year just got released. Been following this band for a decade now. Just released their 2nd album. They have shades of 80s Metallica worship but they're also their own thing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDWbB4je4IU
>>129008013Go for it dude! Assuming the cap is 10 years and you're doing it like I do the yearly charts, I'll nominate the following:Cirith Ungol - Dark Parade (2020)Crimson Storm - Livin' on the Bad Side (2025)Flight - A Leap Through Matter (2018)Glacier - The Passing of Time (2020)Helms Deep - Treacherous Ways (2023)Judas Priest - Firepower (2018)Riot City - Burn the Night (2019)
>>129010406have you heard flight's newest release? it's fucking transcendent. probably their best work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGscermYvOo
>>129010770I have not but it's been on my list to check out for a while. I'll go check it out shortly.>it's fucking transcendent. probably their best work.It's got some damn big shoes to fill, A Leap Through Matter was a fantastic release.
>>129010788>It's got some damn big shoes to filli know. the closer on the album is one of the best closing songs on an album i've ever heard. my eyes legit water at how well it wraps up the entire thing. i wish they would tour the states but small bands like them rarely do if ever.
Europe - The King Will Return https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dLWr67HSbI
Flight - Hypatia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acZ2wP1BdhgFirst impressions are stellar. Blistering first song with an awesome bridge towards the end and some great lead guitarwork. Compared to the previous album, the sound here isn't as reminiscent of Judas Priest, and is more like '70s Rush if anything.
>>128934327Some would consider them "heavy metal but not metal". Some believe that pre-80s is heavy metal and that thrash was the start of "just metal".
>>129011807>Some would consider them "heavy metal but not metal".Huh? AC/DC's sound (bar a few songs) is pure rock and roll. They're not a metal band.>Some believe that pre-80s is heavy metal and that thrash was the start of "just metal".I've never run across this. Typically the prevailing viewpoint among those types is that pre-80s metal is almost always congruent with hard rock - which is correct. There's not much "true" metal from that decade.
>>129011864What I mean is that some people think *heavy* metal is more "poppy hard rock" (like glam), while just *metal* (without the "heavy") would be used to mean thrash or hardcore punk.
>>129012002those are retards that think all metal sounds like cannibal corpse
What a fucking closer. Album's great but the closer steals the spotlight, it's a genuinely amazing song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj7WsmJswD0
Oh, and this should go without saying but I nominate it for that hypothetical modern chart lol
>>129012069yeah, that solo that starts midway through the song...just so fucking good.
>>129012117Agreed, shit was on a completely different level than the rest of the album. Had me in a fucking trance.
Very good record, but if you ask me all of the prime shit is in the middle. Pleasantly surprised, wasn't expecting this to be as good as it was desu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQaNKVOeJAchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHuEN82Ha4Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOiyFm4MExA
>>128992654are you just using photoshop or another tool for the charts? i'm pretty shit at PS and have the graphic design eye of a blind man but i may take a swing at making the modern metal chart in the next week or so.
>>129012587You can use https://topsters.org/
>>129012587>are you just using photoshop or another tool for the charts? Paint.net and https://musicchartmaker.com/ for the actual chart, but topsters should also work too.
>>128899844https://youtu.be/nrc8y_AylUshttps://youtu.be/gyNvYY2b3goWe're the Metal inquisition, we've come to search you outOnce you to see things our way, you won't have any doubtYou better wear some leather, you better wear some chainsDon't try to resist us, it'll only bring you painWe'll hunt you down like animals, we're going to have a chaseWe'll beat you till you're senseless, we'll never leave a traceWe'll round you up for trial, we'll bust you on the spotWe'll treat you all like criminals, you'll be a sorry lotAnd if you're not a Metalhead you might as well be deadWe're the Metal inquisition... We sentence you to death... by guillotine!We'll take you to our leaders, we'll take you to our courtArrest you in the name of hell and play a deadly sportAnd if we find you guilty, your punishment is deathYou better look the other way, you'd better hold your breathSo if you're in a disco or in a country barYou better get the hell out, we know who you areYou better get some Metal and play it really loudYou have the chance to join us, the mighty and the proudAnd if you're not a Metalhead you might as well be deadWe're the Metal inquisition... We sentence you to death... by guillotine!But if we catch you punking, you know the penaltyWe'll come down with a vengeance, we'll never set you freeWe're the Metal inquisition, we're not too hard to findDon't get any closer, we might just blow your mindAnd if you're not a Metalhead you might as well be deadWe're the Metal inquisition... We sentence you to death... by guillotine!
>>129013013>We sentence you to death... by guillotine!It feels like this would be one of the better methods of execution. Definitely preferable to the electric chair, gas chamber or lethal injection.
>>129013013the album after this one had David Defeis (from virgin steele) writing and composing the songs.
Needed a beefier mix and some songs could've used some more interesting riffing, but the highs here are solid melodic NWOBHMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apmXAfwdb_Q>>129013034Unless something goes CATASTROPHICALLY wrong (like a dull blade for instance), the guillotine is the quickest and most efficient way of execution. It'd be like shutting out a light.
>>129013076A firing squad or a (proper) hanging would be pretty quick as well. Although with a hanging I guess you would notice that you are falling.
>>129013101Yeah hanging and firing squads aren't far behind in terms of efficiency. Although for a clean kill by firing squad the shots would all have to be at lethal points like the head or heart. Hanging is comparable to a guillotine but has the potential to give the guy in the noose quite a bit of pain.
>>129013129>has the potential to give the guy in the noose quite a bit of pain.That's why it needs to be a proper hanging, where the neck snaps instantly. Helium should be very good as well, but it's not used in executions.
>>129013167>That's why it needs to be a proper hanging, where the neck snaps instantly. Ah, with a proper hanging then I'm inclined to say that would be the more humane way to go out. They're really quite comparable, though. >Helium should be very good as well, but it's not used in executions.How the hell would that work? Would your head just get inflated 'til it pops?
>>129013076>Needed a beefier mixDescribes countless bands.
>>129013206Apparently your body can't differentiate between oxygen and helium, so you just fall asleep without getting the suffocating feeling that happens if you hold your breath or drown, for example.
>>129013224Yeah, that album just doesn't sound right, man. Too raw for what they were going for, it's a stylistic mismatch imo.>>129013232Huh. The more you know.
>>128901539>>129013283It's my exit plan if I ever get Alzheimer's or some painful terminal disease lol
>>129013308>picrelBased blasting, I remember really liking that record when I checked it out. >It's my exit plan if I ever get Alzheimer's or some painful terminal disease lolMakes sense, you can get helium pretty easily and it's a painless way to go out.>if I ever get Alzheimer's or some painful terminal disease lolYeah same here, I wouldn't want to put myself (or my family) through that hell
>>129013350would heroin work better as a suicide method than helium?i've never listened to blind guardian before
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=dX7ZzJ6ehVM>Generals gathered in their masses>Just like witches at black masses>Evil minds that plot destruction>Sorcerer of death's construction>In the fields, the bodies burning>As the war machine keeps turning>Death and hatred to mankind>Poisoning their brainwashed minds
>>129014425Even combined with benzos there's a risk that you won't die and just become a vegetable.It's actually quite difficult to OD on just heroin.
>>129014428also posting these because of current events:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=6FlFoObR7PIhttps://music.youtube.com/watch?v=QquQkSNHdes
>>129009721I mean, we could start right now. Some lesser known picks of mine would be:Legendry - Dungeon CrawlerCeres - Tyrant's riseHeavy Sentence - Bang to the rightsVisigoth - Final SpellNaevus - Heavy Burden
For anyone interested in the modern trad chart this is what I've come up with so far. A mix of my favourites and some of the records the others have listed here. Feel free to expand it.
>>129015780Is 2009 too old? If not I nominate Armour - Armour.
>>129015829I don't know, we should draw a line. I personally consider a record "modern" from the 2010s onwards.
>>1290159452000+ feels modern to me when talking about heavy metal but 2010+ is fine too. You can always go back if you have trouble filling the chart.
>>129014425>i've never listened to blind guardian beforeFirst three albums are great, and on the second they even play thrash. You should check 'em out.
>>129008013Good idea.Nominating Rocka Rollas>>129001624>>129001626Kek, I is blind.
>>128992654Refuge Denied is from 1988
>>129021257Crap, you’re right lol. I’ll fix it tomorrow.
Just got this bad boy as a gift from a friend today. What do you think?
>>129022369replace it with eternal idol pls
>>129022444cool shirt, how’s the print quality?>>129022566alright sure
>>129022612thanks bro
>>129022618no problem. i’d do it now but I haven’t had a stable connection for the last few days :/
>>129022612>cool shirt, how’s the print quality?Pretty good, I might wear it to concerts and maybe piss some people off.
>>129022662Hell yeah man, I got a few shirts for Christmas myself but they’re just logos mostly
Kind of boring imo
>>129024344No, that would be every Avantasia album after part 2.
bumblebee
>>129029680????https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xXZKS5bHtP4
>>129030116i meant to type bumplebee lol
Lucifer’s Friend - Ride the Sky (Beat Club version) https://youtu.be/VD_mytxCdeg?si=s2bH7sjGfMXrVDRl
>>129015780>>129003671
This the WIGGERSLAM thread??
>>128899844Is this Adam Blake and Ders?
Didn't have a stable connection 'til now, here's the revised chart with Eternal Idol added.
>>129038004>No Dark Quarterer S/Tbaka
Pretty good album but it devolves a bit too often into jamming for my tasteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmnJ527hbJohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOPq5jyJ7X4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8tU1f1rw_w
It's okay. I really liked Play the Game but outside of that it isn't anything noteworthy. Funny album art though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1fTgsJ4cAc
>>129038388for me it's Toxic Shadows
Wow I remember posting in the first couple threads for this general but just assumed it died. Glad to see it's still up.
>>128969185Listened to this again in the correct order. Even the first time I heard it I thought that Terrion sounds like a closing song. Fits way better than Killing Fields/Galactos anyway.
good morning broshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6h7Pk1XX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozOXyQPLISchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzmd8anlxQYv
Is it metal? I feel like it should be.
>>129044950Haven't listened to this one yet but I doubt it's much different sonically from Fly By Night. So proggy hard rock with some metal here and there
>>129045011It's a lot heavier and darker than Fly By Night in parts. I feel like Bastille Day is basically the prototype for Iron Maiden.
>>129045049>I feel like Bastille Day is basically the prototype for Iron Maiden.Just checked it out, and it's halfway there, definitely an influence. But I feel like Hard Lovin' Man by Deep Purple lays the ultimate claim to that galloping style riff and Child in Time for the theatrics/atmosphere.
>>129044950I consider early rush to be hard rock leaning into heavy metal
I think this'll be fun, Zeppelin represents hard rock and Priest represents heavy metal
>>129045515Sabbath
>>129045744Forgot to put the actual bands on there lol, put it relatively close to the end of the line. (And I put Deep Purple in the middle since that's where I think metal personally starts)
Should we start posting suggestions for 1988 chart?
>>129045823Probably better to wait until the chartfag is ready for it.
>>129045823Yeah, we can start. I'm automatically putting Thundersteel and Mindcrime on there since I feel they're locked in.My personal suggestions:Anthem - Gypsy WaysBlind Guardian - Battalions of FearCloven Hoof - DominatorCrimson Glory - TranscendenceFates Warning - No ExitHelloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 2Helstar - A Distant ThunderLiege Lord - Master ControlPantera - Power MetalRazor - Violent Restitution Running Wild - Port RoyalSanctuary - Refuge DeniedScreamer - Target EarthSlayer - South of HeavenSuicidal Tendencies - How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can’t Even Smile TodayVicious Rumors - Digital Dictator
>>129045936Forbidden - Forbidden EvilHoly Terror - Mind WarsLiege Lord - Master ControlOverkill - Under the InfluenceRazor - Violent RestitutionRunning Wild - Port RoyalScanner - Hypertrace
>>129045936Candlemass · Ancient DreamsDanzig · DanzigForbidden · Forbidden EvilGWAR · Hell-o!Helstar · A Distant ThunderHelloween · Keeper of the Seven Keys Part IIHoly Terror · Mind WarsIron Maiden · Seventh Son of a Seventh SonLiege Lord · Master ControlManowar · Kings of MetalMegadeth · So Far, So Good... So What!Scanner · HypertraceZnöwhite · Act of God
>>129045979oh wait forgot to ask if Hell-o fits the bill. It's basically a punk album with thrash elements. I'm not even sure I'd call it crossover (tho I'm not too well versed in the punk/crossover scene)
1988 was a pretty good year. Lots of cool stuff not fit for /trad/ as well.
>>129045953>>129045979Counted and now Liege Lord's on there>>129046004Yeah, very stacked year for metal as a whole.
Probably won't make it on the final list, but this one's from 1988
Starts off great but loses some serious steam in the second half. I can't explain it but it almost feels like the singer is struggling to keep up with the faster tempo songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VXjh7Ve6eI
>>129046335>Probably won't make it on the final list, but this one's from 1988By the way, this is actually an alternate version of the album artwork. As you can see, this version kinda looks like a sword and sorcery pulp novel cover.Virgin Steele had a tendency to release the same album with a bunch of different album cover art.It's hard to find better scans of this album artwork.I found a site that has high quality scans (including this album). But they want you to sign up to view them without water marks, and their registrations are closed: https://albumartexchange.com/
>>129046433>I found a site that has high quality scans (including this album). But they want you to sign up to view them without water marks, and their registrations are closed:Got you covered, I actually have an account for that place lol
>>129046433Always try Last.fm for cover art.
>>129045936Finally. A year where I remember when a favourite album of mine came out.I nominate Hittman-S/T.Kept me company through a transitional summer. Bangers throughout.Also, let me repeat, for the modern "traditional" I renominate Rocka Rollas
>>129046447>Always try Last.fm for cover art.I'll try that in the future. I usually look at musicbrainz and discogs, since they also have album liner notes.I saw smaller versions of that scan, but I noticed there's a large white smudge below the logo. It's probably wear and tear, but I briefly (and kinda jokingly) wondered to myself if it was a cum stain.>>129046443>Got you covered, I actually have an account for that place lolThanks. It's interesting how he had to do a bunch of work to fix issues with the scan.https://albumartexchange.com/covers/606752-age-of-consent>Started with high res scan which looked okay, but had lots of damage around the borders, and some crease lines. Rebuilt text, removed lines, color corrected, replaced edges of the image with a smaller better scan scaled up.
>>129045979FUCK YES.Ancient Dreams. Seconding it.CHASE THE HORIZONCATCH THE ILLUSIONREMEMBER THE CHILD WITHIIIIIIIIN
>>129046519Counted, pretty decent album. Though it only had one standout imo, this song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f53OWfM5RY>>129046529Counted, and I completely forgot this one existed. Been meaning to check it out for a while.
>>129046562>it only had one standout imoDe gustibus e de coloribus, non disputandum est
>>129046520Related to Last.fm, you need to remove the resolution from the URI if you want the original image.>https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/770x0/a3bdc8199ec66acb2430f6cfad738468.jpgto>https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/a3bdc8199ec66acb2430f6cfad738468.jpgThere might be better places but I usually find high res images from there so I have just stuck with it.
o holy shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7767AUYzY
>>129045979>Manowar · Kings of MetalThere's some very good songs on there, but i've seen people complain about the mix and a few of the tracks. I don't think it's a bad mix, but people say that the guitar is kinda weak (and I can see that at least on the youtube version). The tracks I saw the most complaints about are "Sting of the Bumblebee", "Warriors Prayer" and "Pleasure Slave".Sting of the Bumblebee is a cover of Flight of the Bumblebee (a classical piece), but on piccolo bass (meaning it's 4 strings are tuned the same as a standard guitar).I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but some people don't like that kinda instrumental. Guitar World called it the 9th worst guitar solo of all time, and left this hilarious review:>This manic, mindless masturbatory wankfest (played on bass, which technically is a guitar) becomes more unbearable when you consider that DeMaio most likely performed it clad only in a loincloth, his hairy chest abundantly oiled and puffed out with pride. Sometimes it sounds like his woolly mammoth popped out to help him slap the strings. This metal is as heavy as the foil used to wrap a stick of Wrigley’s gum.I do have to question the reviewer's taste since they think the amazing guitar solo in Living Color's "Cult of Personality" is badWarrior's Prayer isn't even a song, it's basically a spoken story about Manowar's self-inserts."Pleasure Slave" is so absurdly misogynistic that I wonder if it's tongue in cheek or like a "Villain song" or something. Whatever the case may be, it's definitely made worse (or at least cornier) by the samples of women moaning.Aside from that people complain that's it's not really focused on heavy stuff. You have not one, not two, but three ballads on the album. Ok, I don't know if you can really call "Kingdom Come" a ballad. Maybe a Power Ballad? There's nothing wrong with it, but "Heart of Steel" and "The Crown and the Ring (Lament of the Kings)" are definitely better IMO.
Gets a bit long in the tooth by the end but it's still a great release. Seconding.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7767AUYzYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2sSbvmaKzUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4mA1VnAAPo
>>128901539Very based.
>>129047141The album artwork looks interesting with that giant strucutre in the background and that has convinced me to try this album later.
MEGADETH!!!!
>>129046433>>129046443>their registrations are closedWtf lol? Good thing I got in early I guess.
>>129045936Adramelch - Irae MelanoxCrimson Glory - TranscendenceHelloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys, Part IIKing Diamond - “Them”Liege Lord - Master ControlQueensrÿche - Operation: MindcrimeRiot - ThundersteelRunning Wild - Port RoyalScanner - HypertraceX Japan - Vanishing Vision
>>129046433>>129048131There's also this, which I found out about because some bot keeps downloading my covers on Soulseek lolhttps://covers.musichoarders.xyz/
>>129046863How do people think it compares to Virgin Steele's Age of Consent from the same year? They're the band that gets the most comparison to Manowar. The weird thing is that despite being significantly less famous, their mixing often seemed better.
>>129048078It's the same series of paintings by the same artist. In Ancient Dreams it is the Youth, in Nightfall it's old age. Amcient Dreams is full bangers man.
>>129048299https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Voyage_of_Life
>>129048185Counted these and now Scanner, Running Wild and Helloween are on the chart. >X Japan - Vanishing VisionGood record, seconding.
>>129046562Oh brother, speaking of Hittman, I just fucking remembered, they were actually featured in Stranger Things season 2,KEK.I was acting like a chimpanzee when I heard the song (I think it was Metal Sport).
>>129049833How the hell did a band like them get into fucking Stranger Things?
>>129049836Beats me, but I was stoked. It's in a scene where Billy picks up Max or drops her to the arcade or somewhere.
>>129049955Couldn't find a clip anywhere, but it is one of the top results when you search the song. Pretty cool desu.>Beats me, but I was stoked. I wonder whether they were a band that the crew who worked on the show grew up with.
There's definitely some potential here but the songwriting leaves a lot to be desired. Was pleasantly surprised by the production though, it's got a lot of oomph to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLB_DTWKNHs
>>129045936Pantera - Power MetalThat was the last good Pantera record
>>129050182HARD RIDESTAY FREEIT'S A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE YOU FALL DOWN ON YOUR KNEEShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxXmodWTGJ0
>>129050193ROCK THE WOOOOOOOOOORLD!https://youtu.be/ZpIlrY5ycI0?si=XX1msCFsJw6x3Yrr
>>129050209Phil made a damn good thrash vocalist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x50hKL42i8
>>129050219Indeed he didhttps://youtu.be/bpLqmDE1qbQ?si=wN0AG1-PR2dXeSYB
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