that looks like the /g/ phone

seems like the worst idea ever

>>128965280
How so?

>>128965302
it just is

>>128965262
no because every component of it is shit
it will sound like shit and it will last precisely 12 months and 1 day and then stop working forever
seriously, vinyl isn’t something you can do on the cheap, and cassettes aren’t something you can do with new equipment at all. no one has manufactured decent cassette mechanisms or heads for like 2 decades. all that’s being made now are shittest of the shit, cheap as possible chinese crap.

>>128965262
this looks like the perfect thing to sell to zoomers that want to jump on the physical media trend train

>>128965262
It does 3 things badly. Better to go to a second hand shop and look for individual components, the older the better

>>128965795
>the older the better
Only true for analog stuff. Cheap modern CD players sound perfect.

>>128965833
except when you plug it into a dogshit amplifier through tiny built in speakers as in this case

>>128965833
>Cheap modern CD players sound perfect.
Shitty dacs and shitty opamps sound like shit. You know a CD player isn't just a laser, right?

>>128965262
I had a pretty sweet Aiwa about 30 years ago that had 2 tapes, AM/FM, a 3 CD carousel, 2 wood box bookshelf speakers, AND a remote control, I felt like I was living large when I brought that home

I bought a NIB Sony thing a few years back, it's like a 1/2 sized stereo rack that got melted into one unit, tapes, CD, even a pop out turntable.

I don't fucking know anymore man. Apparently the record player I have will somehow shatter my records, scratch them to shit, and kill my dog if I keep using it according to "Audiophiles".

>>128968767
Enjoy your shitty turntable to your heart's content, just don't expect to get glazed when you show off shitty gear

>>128968835
Apparently minimum "Good" gear is in the ball park of $450 to these fuckers.

>>128968852
$450 isn't a crazy price to pay for a deck, a cart, a preamp, and an amp. It takes a lot of components to make a nice stereo setup. Beginners with beginner gear don't get their balls washed in any enthusiast community. Enthusiasts aren't impressed by bottom-of-the-barrel shit, for natural reasons. If you want to impress people, go and buy some broken gear with potential and use the infinite online resources at your disposal and learn to fix them up. I got into stereo gear by buying shit at goodwill and repairing it. Over the years, you can puece together something decent

>>128968910
Why do you think he's trying to impress anyone? What if he just wants to listen to music?

>>128968964
How would he know what audiophiles thought of his gear unless he went around seeking approval somewhere?

>Links turntable to Bluetooth

just get one of those fiio portable CD players. a cheap CD player sounds 99% as good as an expensive one.
for vinyl you gotta spend at least 500 for a good player that won’t wreck your records
for cassette you have to go vintage, you can get some decent vintage players for ~200 but they break easily . i do love cassette players though some of them have some really interesting features but dont expect any kind of fidelity

>>128969187
>do love cassette players though some of them have some really interesting features but dont expect any kind of fidelity
Spoken like a guy who has only ever heard Type I tape

>>128969213
ive got some type IIs but my player is dog shit to be fair. did labels actually release type IIs because recording onto them from digital seems pointless

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I got this

>>128968767
it wont do any of that, obviously
but if its a cheap plastic shitter with a fixed counterweight it'll put way more pressure on the needle and put audible wear on your records several times faster than a proper deck with the right amount of downforce and a cartridge with a smaller and more finely polished stylus
and of course it'll sound crap

>>128970449
lmao they didnt even bother taking the stylus cover off for the photo

>>128967894Iknow the one you mean, a friend of mine had it too. I recorded a few tapes on it. Good times.

I just came in here to say that cassettes are shit tier media and I'm glad they're dead.

>>128972402
this is correct. they once had a perfectly valid use case as the only affordable medium for home recording but have long been obsolete
if people want to get an old deck and play around with it for novelty or nostalgia, fine, whatever.
but when 21st century artists release stuff on cassette and dont put it out on any other format, no. they deserve to be killed.

>>128965262
>Is getting a cd
if you want to listen to CDs without spending a lot of money, just buy a cheap but decent all-in-one HiFi system from a reputable brand (Sony, Panasonic, Philips, Denon...).
Or look for the separate components (cd player + integrated amp + speakers) on the second hand market.
>cassette
it's not worth it to collect or listen to that crap. Literally the worst of both worlds.
>record player
you either spend at least $500 for a decent turntable or you completely drop the idea of starting a vinyl collection. Vinyl records are expensive and a cheap turntable will inevitably ruin them.

>>128972402
>>128972687
but lo-fi sounds suck when you fake them. you really need to actually use a 4 track or a boombox to get good lo-fi music

>>128965500
>seriously, vinyl isn’t something you can do on the cheap, and cassettes aren’t something you can do with new equipment at all. no one has manufactured decent cassette mechanisms or heads for like 2 decades. all that’s being made now are shittest of the shit, cheap as possible chinese crap.
Half these shits come with a steel needle, it'll ruin your records. And yes cassettes require older gear.

>>128972402
They sound great if you have a nice deck.

>>128973245
Plenty of tapes sound great. Type I tapes recorded on crap, not so much.

>you either spend at least $500 for a decent turntable or you completely drop the idea of starting a vinyl collection
That's silly. You can get a perfectly nice used turntable for $100 or even less. New AT cartridge is like $30.

Holy shit turntables really have gone up in price just like records have. I swear my ATLP120 (pre-USB) was maybe $250 when I bought it and now they're $500?

>>128970449
:p

>>128976888
Vinyl might be getting more popular but turntable manufacturers aren't going to massively expand their production on a whim. Especially when there are so many decent used tables out there.

cassettes sound good for what they are, that is a fragile format designed for dictation

>>128979972
They improved tape in general and the minicassette format pretty much continuously until the advent of CDs, that's when R&D slowed. There were significant advances in tape formulation as recently as the late 1990s which made it to the market.

By the mid-80s with Dolby C, or dbX, and metal tape in a decent deck you could reproduce CD quality audio on cassette. It required a good deck, which could be adjusted, and good tape, and etc. and a great sounding tape might not play back as well on another deck even if it handles the same special tape types and Dolby or dbX or I think there was another one too. But you could copy high quality music by the mid '80s. By the 1990s every deck could do Dolby B and probably even in a generic Walkman, up to 17000 khz.

>>128980107
Makes sense. I could never get along with Dolby on cassettes which sounded like a blanket over the audio but I liked dbx with Tascam 4 track recorders. Those also sounded good because they played at double speed, 3.25 ips.

I rebelted my old Onkyo cassette deck and my old 90s tapes still sound good, but looking at it from the inside you see how small and rickety the mechanisms are, especially compared to a reel-to-reel deck. Sonically reel-to-reel is on another level, even with Type I tape.

>>128982775
>3.25 ips
That should be 3.75 ips, double the standard cassette speed of 1 & 7/8ths.

>>128965795
this. component systems are best
all-in-one units sucked back in the 70s and modern ones suck even worse today

>>128980107
>you could reproduce CD quality audio on cassette
You could not. A correctly mastered CD with noise-shaped dithering BTFOs any analog format there is, even professional 30 IPS tape on a fancy Nakamichi reel-to-reel. CD audio exceeds the limits of human hearing. Zero distortion, zero wow and flutter, perfectly flat frequency response over the full audio spectrum, completely inaudible noise floor. Listen to a good CD recording of symphonic classical music (only genre demanding enough to properly showcase CD quality) on good headphones in a very quiet listening room. Even the cheapest CD player (with digital output) sounds this good when you plug it into a good DAC.

>>128983354
>You could not.
You could indeed.

>A correctly mastered CD with noise-shaped dithering BTFOs any analog format there is
Nope, it does well. But not better than "any analog format."

You're one of those bots which only can understand noise floor. But noise floor isn't relevant unless you're listening in an anechoic chamber, or at volumes which will assuredly permanently damage your hearing.

I've seen you, I'm assuming you're a bot, spreading this type of disinformation in every thread, here, on Reddit, on Twitter, on Orange Reddit.

>Even the cheapest CD player (with digital output) sounds this good when you plug it into a good DAC.
That's wrong for several reasons, we can go into how your digital output has no clock, because it's a consumer connection, and how your DAC doesn't reclock. But this is way above the head of an obvious bot.

Some of the most famous recordings of classical music were done with analog equipment, these are still sought after today. For example, listen to how trashy Claudio Abbado conducting Bruckner Symphony No.7, or Herbert von Karajan conducting Bethoven Symphony No.5 sound on CD or even DSD. There's a reason why the vinyl is still THE format for these and other famous performances.

>>128987278
>But noise floor isn't relevant unless you're listening in an anechoic chamber, or at volumes which will assuredly permanently damage your hearing.
Noise floor is very relevant. I listen at around 75 dB(A) average level and I can easily hear tape hiss. I don't need an anechoic chamber for this because my listen room's background noise is not the same as tape hiss and I get to listen to more than a single sample.
>your DAC doesn't reclock
It's 2025 or 2026 depending on where you are. Even cheap DACs reclock.
>Some of the most famous recordings of classical music were done with analog equipment
I'd rather listen to a mediocre DDD recording than the best analog recording.
>trashy
a.k.a. "fun".
>CD or even DSD
DSD sounds identical to a good CD. I don't own a dog so I don't care about ultrasound.

>>128987947
>>trashy
And before you make false accusations of me being a bot, I misread your post and I thought this referred to the performances. I like Karajan's work, but only the digital recordings. I don't care if his analog recordings of the Beethoven symphonies are "acclaimed", the digital versions sound better.

>>128987967
>I like Karajan's work, but only the digital recordings.
lol. Do you ever get the impulse to destroy analog media when it's around you? I do, I confess.

>>128989854
Analog media should be preserved for historical interest by the only suitable method: digitization.

>>128965262
You only need the record player

>>128965262
Yeah, why not?

>>128976798
>They sound great if you have a nice deck.
I bought a brand new portable cassette player recently and I'm listening to bootleg cassettes on bluetooth headphones. Life is good.