>>129028760
george michael absolutely mogs morrissey in this interview. morrissey comes off like a twat, george michael comes off as a reasonable guy with diverse taste in music.

>>129028760
George wrote the music for his hits, Morrisy only wrote lyrics
Also GM had massive success and was a great singer
Morr was known mostly for his tantrums, politics and whining about things

>>129028760
Moz, easily
>>129028787
Ian was a faggot. Get over it. George is cool though and a good looking dude.
>>129028806
>vocals
>vocal melodies
>lyrics
>aesthetic
>literally anything interesting about the Smiths comes from Moz
But sure. Moz didn't do much.

Fuck off George is so so so fucking far clear of that miserable wank.

He was about 17 when he wrote Careless Whisper, and by all accounts was a genuinely lovely humble man.

I am

Me

They hate it when you tell the truth. It's why Morrissey makes so many people meltdown. I like George though. He seemed like a really chill guy. Talented singer/songwriter as well.

>>129028837
>>literally anything interesting about the Smiths comes from Moz
lolno. marr is known as one of the greatest guitarists ever. morrissey is remembered as a guy that wrote a bunch of le sad lyrics to sing (poorly) over marr's music.

>>129028837
Vocals for what?
You need to write an actual melodic line, chords, a rhythm for a song to exist.
Vocal phrasing is basically doing karaoke on a song composed by someone else. You can just sing notes that are in tune with the chords
And his vocals are always the same whiny bleating thing

Whereas George was a top pop performer that could sing in many styles

>>129028887
Morrissey is known as one of the greatest lyricists of all time and widely praised as an incredible vocalist. They were a great team but Marr is nothing without him. Him floundering in obscurity since the Smiths broke up just proves my point. Marr is the Janetty. 'fraid so.

>>129028920
Their songs? Have you heard their music? He's the guy singing. You're all so quick to dismiss his contributions but you know, in your heart of hearts, without Moz there's nothing to make that band stand out or make their music endure for decades.

>>129028760
George Michael has inspired many gay musicians and female too. So I chose him.

>>129028923
It's not like Morrissery came up with any big classic song since the Smiths broke up..
He's mostly known because he's kind of a meme and creates a stir with his politics in interviews. Then plays the victim

>>129028931
Their best song is How soon is now and that's something Moz could never write. That guitar is just unique on that track

>>129028923
>Morrissey is known as one of the greatest lyricists
among smiths/morrissey fans and literally nobody else. he doesn't even crack the top 100 dude. listen to more music.
>Him floundering in obscurity since the Smiths broke up
marr's post-smiths career is better than morrissey's. all morrissey did was capitalize off the popularity of the smiths and leverage it to sell some mediocre albums. he's been on a steady decline his entire career. modest mouse has more cultural significance than all of morrissey's solo albums.

>>129028945
>Suedehead
>Every Day Is Like Sunday
>Irish Blood, English Heart
Plenty more. Maybe try learning about someone's work before you shit on it? Marr hasn't done anything except play guitar on a lukewarm Modest Mouse album.

As an actual Brit and not some smelly incel with an agenda, I'd say Johnny Marr has actually retained his relevancy in the UK with his dogged ability to both "not be a cunt" and also "not know when to fuck off" which is kind of sad but also means he's done all sorts of features and cameos in recent years

Morrissey is yesterday's chippy paper

>>129028760
loveable golden retriever soccer mom vs evil pompous twat

>>129028962
>Their best song is How Soon is Now
Bait used to be believable
>>129028965
Try anyone who has ever talked about The Smiths and their legacy. Moz's words are a great chunk of he has only become a better wordsmith and vocalist with age. You clearly know nothing of his solo work so there's no need to continue arguing with someone who is this ignorant. Modest Mouse is fine but you're full of shit and your hyperbole is ridiculous.

>>129028981
>Marr hasn't done anything except play guitar on a lukewarm Modest Mouse album.
he's done way more of actual substance than morrissey, he's just not a fame obsessed attention whore. releasing albums is not the end-all-be-all of music. especially when it's dogshit slop like years of refusal. just embarrassing.

>>129029082
He really hasn't. Marr's an amazing guitarist but that's about it. No one said releasing albums was the be all end all. It'd be fine if he released anything that wasn't complete shit and a waste of his talent but he hasn't. He never will.

>>129029109
>It'd be fine if he released anything
he did, it's called the smiths. he wrote all the music. besides that he's been collaborating with actually relevant musicians, touring, doing session work, doing film soundtracks etc. morrissey is releasing albums nobody listens to and touring with a bunch of nobodies. and that's if he's not busy cancelling shows and bitching about labels not wanting him (because he's an 80 year old man still trying to be a popstar).

>>129028760
I like both of them. The fact that people watch that interview and spaz out over Morrissey's response just shows that they are retarded because both of them say they like Joy Division and they didn't like the book, they just said it in different ways.

>>129029191
You know what I meant and you picked the only worthwhile thing he ever did. It ends there. You don't have to like it but Moz released a string of well-received albums that have aged like fine wine. It's bizarre how Smiths fans are incapable of giving Moz credit. And playing for nobodies? Any time he announces a tour it sells out immediately. The cancelling is on him but still. He's not the has-been you're painting him as. George Jones canceled a lot of shows too. Doesn't it make it any less amazing when he shows up

>>129028760
At a college party stacies 100% would orbit the guy on the left. Guy on the right would stand in the corner all night and creep everybody out.

>>129029281
No one arguing about the attractiveness of two musicians from the 80s is gonna be at a party

>>129029253
frankly morrissey hasn't done anything worthwhile. all he's done is tack his name onto the coattails of more talented musicians. he's very boring musically. and just mediocre lyrically. funny you mention him selling out shows when we all know everyone is there for marr's music. they aren't there to hear fucking alma matters lol.

>>129028962
>That guitar is just unique on that track
the guitar is directly ripped off from the rolling stones cover of mona

>>129029253
It sells out because there are few tickets and few willing to risk going to a concert that gets cancelled on a whim

>>129028866
which one are you?

>>129029281
The Smiths is literally incel music. Stop trying to co-opt The Smiths, art hoe roastie.

>>129029298
>Your Arsenal
>Vauxhall
>Southpaw
>Honestly, every album
Meanwhile, Johnny has..... I'll wait. And they're all there to hear Smiths songs? He has one or two Smiths tracks on his setlist. Get your shit together. If you go hear Johnny you better hope that little wig-wearing nigga has a sore throat because you're gonna hear some of the worst vocals of your life.

>>129028873
This. Why has the whole of this cesspit turned into console wars? I like GM and Moz. Sue me.

>>129028945
Suedehead was as big as any Smiths single.
t. gen x

>>129029468
Marrfags will do anything to discredit Mozza. It's really a shame. The fighting is stupid on both sides. George really did seem like a sweet guy who had a great sense of humor about himself.

>>129029082
Citation needed.

>>129029506
Yup. I wasn't even that into his music but I was gutted when he died. It was the icing on the cake for 2016. Just when we thought there would be no more musician deaths – BANG. Merry Christmas, no more George Michael.

>>129029298
You really need to calm yourself and tell us about all the fantastic work Johnny Marr has created. I'll start you off:
Get The Message
Getting Away With It
Your turn now fren, tell me:

>>129029601
I remember it vividly. My sister had a gigantic crush on George so, needless to say, I heard a ton of his music growing up. Last Christmas is also one of the only Christmas songs I enjoy. I had a friend in high school who recommended me Fastlove and i still love it quite a bit. The unplugged version is banger. That whole unplugged set goes so hard. He was a great showman, had a voice that could adapt to any kind of song he was making and it was distinct. On top of all of that, he seemed like wonderful company. We needed more musicians like George.

>>129029415
learn to read, thirdie

>>129029415
You are indian

>>129028965
cope more, sideman.
but lead singers are face of group and almost always have the successful solo career while le world's greatest guitarist has to beg to be a hired guy for obscure indie bands.

>>129028760
>when the flamboyant gay is the humble unpretentious one and the milder gay is the arrogant diva.

>>129029506
yeah, when you're sucking off dudes in public restrooms into your 40's and 50's, you probably shouldn't take yourself too serious i'd say.

>>129028999
lovable golden retriever vs raped ditch whippet

Marr hasn't done anything? Literally won an oscar with the no time to die soundtrack doesn't seem like nothing

>>129030814
We've all been there
>>129030995
Oscars don't mean anything, my nigga. Try again.

>>129028760
Who is still alive?

Morrissey is straight and George Michael is a faggot.

I prefer Morrissey

Johhny Marr was better solo than with Morrigay

https://youtu.be/XXKpQG0uu48?si=5QFOkFYIk2v4RiPZ

this is the best thing ever

>>129033380
wow! I was a Morrissey fan but now I see Morrissey was actually holding Marr back! Marr is the better solo!

Marr was only ever good because Morrissey was using him like a tool. Morrissey told Marr how to write songs. Marr without Morrissey is a broken rusty tool.

>>129032200
george michael music lives on. both billie eilish and sabrina carpenter have sampled last christmas last year.

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>>129033405
Correct

>>129028787
he says lot of stuff in the spur of the moment he doesn't really mean. there's a picture of Morrissey with a joy division shirt.

>>129033358
>Morrissey is straight
He's bisexual and dated a guy.

>>129028760
Morrissey and Morrissey. The greatest songwriter of all time and very handsome.

>>129028760
Morrissey mogs, better facial harmony and more striking features.

>>129033557
I'm straight but they both look equally handsome to me in my opinion.

>>129033380
This is so fucking bad holy shit kek
>>129033413
I wouldn't go that far but Marr needed Moz desperately. The video I replied to shows how much that's true
>>129033510
A lot of people seem to forget how much he loved punk music and stirring the pot. He loves pissing people off. Always has.

>>129033380
i remember watching this when it was broadcast
>>129035993
>This is so fucking bad holy shit kek
when i first saw it i had no idea what the fuck was going on
>>129033413
this is factual

>>129036023
What the FUCK is even doing making something this bad? He's responsible for some of the most perfect music ever and he's up here proudly playing this trash? Good God, Johnny

>>129029281
Why do Americans seem to be obsessed with high school and college their entire lives? It's creepy.

I hate Morrissey but I would never actually listen to George Michael over the Smiths

>>129033380
>listens to oasis once

maybe the right one?

>>129033380
Who told this little wig wearing twink he could sing?

>>129036031
iirc he was drinking heavily at the time trying to be a britpop lad rocker even though he was 10 years older than the rest of them kek

>>129036031
>He's responsible for some of the most perfect music ever
agreed
> and he's up here proudly playing this trash? Good God, Johnny

yeah it was confusing, anon. a complete mystery to me.

>>129036079
Vaguely remember. Didn't the dude from New Order he had the side project with do the same thing? Giving bro-ish annoying type interviews. That midlife crisis must have hit him hard. I can't believe I've never seen or heard this Healers bullshit until just now
>>129036091
Marrfags will defend this to the death though. Pretty grim shit.

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Any of you niggas ever been Boomslanged?

>>129036112
>that midlife crisis must have hit him hard.
probably softened by the large amount of money they made a year off of songwriting royalties. but they did manage to make some great stuff with that "electronic" project.
>Marrfags will defend this to the death though. Pretty grim shit.
not even worth defending. he's written far better music.

>>129036210
Glad he could recover. He's an all time great guitarist and I wish him well.

>>129036049
>I hate Morrissey
You need to judge people by their actions instead of their words, anon.

>>129036221
I wish most people felt this way about Morrissey too.

>>129036241
Same. Warring between the fanbases is retarded. They don't like each other and that's fine. It has nothing to do with us as fans.

>>129036049
why do you hate george michael? are you an incel (icky)?

>>129036221
>He's an all time great guitarist
he's excellent
>>129036246
>Warring between the fanbases is retarded.
it's sad. like watching family fight.

>>129036258
Not that anon but I like a few George Michael songs and he's a very talented singer/songwriter but I'm very rarely in the mood to listen to pop. Nothing against George. Just my own personal taste. I can't imagine this board has many GM die-hards.

>>129036286
Why are they beefing anyway? I know it's not for muh political differences like what the normies believe.

>>129036286
That's very much what it's like and it sucks. It's kinda impossible to have a discussion about the Smiths without it evolving into mudslinging. I'm a Moz solo guy but I wouldn't wish Johnny bad in anything he does. The whole band was brilliant. I hope maybe Moz and Johnny can bury the hatchet or at least be civil but I don't expect it to happen and it doesn't matter. The music's all that matters and everyone should remember that.

>>129036339
idk why leftists can't just enjoy The Smiths' music without shit talking Morrissey? conservatives who listen to rage against the machine don't shit talk the band members for being communists.

>>129036325
Moz and Johnny have a complicated relationship. Basically, Johnny wanted to do other things and Moz was controlling and protecting of what they were doing. I don't get what could be better than writing Smiths music but that's his prerogative. It got heated and messy and ended badly. I believe they met in a pub talking about a reunion and Johnny said maybe after he finishes up some tour with some literal who band. That was it. I don't think they've been in contact much outside of that. Could be missing details but it's a pretty fascinating case.

>>129028760
Not much of a pop guy so I choose Moz.

>>129036358
People are fucking retarded, my dawg. I wish I had a better answer. Moz is a dramatic dude but I don't think he's evil whatsoever. He's a living legend and people painting him as Darth Vader is foolish because they literally only read the headlines.

>>129036359
>Moz was controlling and protecting of what they were doing.
He should've controlled him more. No disrespect to Alain Whyte or Boz Boorer, but if Johnny Marr had played on Vauxhall and I, it might have been the best Smiths album of all time.

>>129036458
It's definitely a big what-if. Vauxhall is a stunning album and Alain and Boz and the rest of the boys did a bang up job playing and crafting those songs. They're talented as hell in their own right but can you imagine those tasteful Andy bass lines and Johnny doing his thing? Moz also just went into a different stratosphere with his lyrics and vocals at this time too. It would have been glorious.

>>129036380
>people painting him as Darth Vader is foolish because they literally only read the headlines.
They're only the vocal minority on the internet. Even Moz himself has admitted that he's beloved by everyone. Immigrants like Hispanics, Sikhs and even Muslims love him.

>>129036497
It's always been funny to me that people paint him as this awful person and I'm like you're really seething about the lil nigga who danced around with flowers in his back pocket and defends animals? Where's the outrage for actual monsters in this world? Life's too short to be this mad over Moz's basedness

Your anus, duh

>>129028965
>marr's post-smiths career is better than morrissey's.
This is utterly delusional. Being a background character right as Modest Mouse sold out and turned to shit is not an accomplishment. "Background character" is actually the most accurate way to describe it: completely unremarkable and unnoticeable in Electric, in The The, in Modest Mouse, etc.

>>129028760
moz needed marr and vice versa. they make each other better and they don't work that well alone. it sucks when people can't admit that and just bury the hatchet. i'm talking about my ex-bandmate too, by the way. still annoyed by that.

>>129038586
You're right for the most part. They were an dream songwriting team and it's pretty amazing the amount of 10/10 stuff they made in such a short amount of time too.

Here’s the link
https://youtu.be/Vj3HOklzUTo

>>129028945
Morrissey had a very fruitful career after The Smiths with many good songs. Marr faded into obscurity. You’re retarded.

>>129042404
>Morrissey had a very fruity career
FIFY

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>>129028760
>Who is more talented?
The feggit on the left
>Who is better looking?
I'm not a feggit, the hell I know

>>129046668
>I'm not a feggit
You could fool me with the choice you made and the way you type

>>129046668
the most obvious sign of homo-sexuality is pretending you can't tell if a man is good looking or not.

>>129028760
morrissey is a world class faggot and only douchy little hipster incels like you nerds think he's any good. He's nothing without johnny marr, where as george michael was awesome as an artist and a person

>>129028806
George Michaels also produced and arranged all of his albums, and we all know how important is the role of the producer in pop music.
Modern pop albums have dozens of different writers and producers, George Michaels did it all by himself. Also played most of the instruments on the album.

George's voice was angelic. It's close, but I gotta give it to him.

>>129046923
Oh yeah. That incredible career Marr has had post-Smiths has been a pleasure to witness. Get a clue, you fucking dork.

>>129033380
this isn't bad.
but frontman is only person who can just make good music and sustain a post-band career.
if not frontman, you need some kind of gimmick to get attention from the audience when there are 100's of other bands making good music.
life isn't fair.

>>129049074
>but frontman is only
>if not frontman
Okay sar. That song is straight up ass too.