Based Bruce
>>129261903Imagine listening to that putrid trash
>>129261903THEY'RE NOTBORRRRRRRRRN IN USA
White faggot boomers are the real cancer of Minnesota
>>129262802Luckily ICE loves to assault all kinds of white American citizens, including the elderly.
>we have Nuge at homewhy are democrats like this
GLORY DAYSWITH BANANAS AND RICE GLORY DAYSWITH DAYCARE AT A HIGH PRICE GLORY DAYS
>>129262794lol
>>129261903tfw boomers make better protest songs than current artists
>>129262840that good though boomers deserve it
>>129261903Brutthhhhe tthhhhhhpring(((sssttthhhhtein)))
>>129261903damn that's crazy president dump actually heard this and pulled everyone out oh wait the opposite happened oops
just imagine the type of person listening to this generic slop about CURRENT EVENT, no insight or anything interesting, even the title is the most generic possible for the situation>>129262794kek
yeah i don't give a shit what a near 80 year old man says actually
>>129261903damn he's just like me fr a real revolutionary a true man of the peop-
>>129264414so if Olivia Rodrigo did that song instead you would take her more seriously?
Did Weird Al write this?
>>129264444>old people are usually ugly and out of shapeWhat's this supposed to prove again?
>>129264492maybe the boomer neolib who hangs out with the clintons and cynically exploiting the deaths of actual leftists on the ground should shut the fuck up and go away
Daily reminder that most Americans supported shooting those rioters at Kent State because they were sick of dealing with these liberal faggots, and Nixon won 49 out of 50 states a couple years later. The left rewrites history, but at the time, most people were happy to see some hippies get their shit kicked in.
>>129261903hes an idiot, the people being deported are murderers and child rapists, would bruce want them living next door to him? he doesn't have to worry about that of course
darkness on the edge of brown
>>129261903grifting homo
ROSALITAGO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY
Cringe Bruce
>is named Bruce>is not gheyhow
>>129264665And how is Nixon remembered? Now keep in mind, Zion Don will be remembered rightfully as far, far worse.
>>129265943The libs who control the education system will keep writing how nixon, trump etc are le bad and global lib is the 'right side of history' and the actual people who live in the real world will continue voting for the next nixon and trump.
>>129266013They are objectively bad, corrupt leaders who hurt their own nation for the benefit of Israel.
>>129261903what's the percentage that he made this song to exploit and profit cynically out of current event compared to making this song because he actually cares?
>>129266439no post ww2 president hasn't treated Israel special, retard. so you haven't even supplied a rationale why muh Trump and Nixon are uniquely le bad presidents.
>>129266575>no post ww2 president hasn't treated Israel specialimagine unironically thinking thisyikes! thank God it's not me!
>>129264665you will also remember that in 72 the South and organized labor both key Democrat blocs crossed the aisle to vote for Nixon
>>129266575>no post ww2 president hasn't treated Israel special, retard.Not to the extent of Nixon tanking the global economy for the benefit of Israel or Trump unquestionably carrying out their bidding >so you haven't even supplied a rationale why muh Trump and Nixon are uniquely le bad presidents.Nixon isn't uniquely bad for the past 55 years, but there's no question him and Trump are the most corrupt
>>129262840Literally just get out of the way and let them arrest child traffickers and fraudsters. You know the famous pic of the 5 year old ice took? They arrested his dad while he was picking up the kid, the dad bailed and left the kid, then they tried taking him home to his mom; and she refused to take him, and then they tried to give him to his teacher and she refused to take him. So we possibly have a case where this kid isn't living here with his real parents, and teachers who are too afraid to get involved (but will give an interview where they try to look like the good guy).I feel like most people have zero idea how bad the immigration crisis is for child safety. Stop assuming everyone in the world is a good person. Bad people exist.
>>129262846Kek
only leftists and Mudslimes think Israel does this and that. you're not a leftist or Mudslime, anon, are you?
>>129266943I mean it's literally documented the Biden family were making tens of million off pop's position.
>>129264524This
>>129266943Watergate is like patty cake compared to later corrupt shit.and it was overwhelmingly Jewish journalists who took down Nixon on that nothingburger, but somehow he was also their puppet?make it make sense.
>>129266903Whatever. It was carter and Reagan who ultimately sold out the working class and exported all the factory jobs so their corporate donors could exploit non-whites. And now we have the rust belt. Something Springberg used to sing about, but never bothered using his platform to change and instead just made millions complaining and being controlled safe opposition
>>129262794
>>129266943>Nixon and Trump are more corrupt than Bush or ClintonsLmao
>>129266977I don't think you'll find a single Biden defender on this site. Even the most hardcore neolib shills won't defend him.
>>129261903https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/bruce-springsteen/streets-of-minneapolis/Lmao of course RYM gives it a high rating
>>129262794:)
>>129267012at least this supplies a real time explanation on how Bob Dylan got so big.no matter how tunelessly, if you sing in support of someone's politics, they'll like it.and since 95% of media has been left-wing since ww2, they'll use their megaphone to hype you.
>>129266977Hunter Biden joining the board of Burisma is corrupt, and never should have happened, but it pales in comparison to Trump's family profiting off the office, their memecoins, their defense contracts, etc and Nixon's sabotage of McGovern's campaign.>>129266995>Watergate is like patty cake compared to later corrupt shit.Nixon covering up Watergate itself is relatively minor, sure, but it was born out of his reelection campaign's culture of corruption and illegality. >and it was overwhelmingly Jewish journalists who took down Nixon on that nothingburger, but somehow he was also their puppet?Strawman. He was taken out by Mark Felt, largely from a personal grievance, and Felt wasn't Jewish, nor was Woodward. Further, there is a difference between Israel and American Jews. Nixon liked and destroyed the economy for the former but didn't trust the latter.>>129267003It's true, which is why you're laughing instead of making the counter argument.
>>129267047Now do Antifa by Ministry or Goodnight Alt Right by Stray from the Path
>>129267109>It's trueHow much blood does Nixon have on his hands compared to Bush or Clinton?
>>129267125>Antifa by MinistryThey were completely washed up by that point
>>129267128Objectively more than Clinton, and a comparable amount to Bush, but Nixon was a better president than both of them.
>>129267109>Bernstein>Rosenfeld
>>129267125>>129267133Remember when they did that corny pro occupy song?https://youtu.be/pWKfXxwmYpQ?si=QEPXh1Dp-VBx0TtE
>>129264410>just imagine the type of person listening to thisSome lefty boomer and no one else.Millennials hate him and Zoomers don't know who he is.
I won't say Springsteen wasn't hugely influential on two decades of musicians, but he wasn't very good music objectively.
>>129267203Nebraska was fun, thoughbeit.
>>129267109> muh sabotage of McGovernbro, Hillary's campaign literally made up the Russian collusion delusion shit whole cloth and had the lib media blast it everyday front page for nearly 3 years.> but muh Nixon tried to dig up dirt on McGovern. kek.
>>129267203been trying to learn some of his songs.and most are very well put together.his singing is a bit much and he really was kind of ridiculously anthemic at times, but hidden gems like out in the street were some of the best hook writing of that era.
>>129267239Hillary Clinton was not the president during the 2016 campaign. And even if she was, her corruption does not excuse Nixon's or Trump's subsequently.
>>129261903>globohomo stars scaredYou love to see it
>>129267327It's Trump who led the effort to decriminalize homosexuality globally and who has a gay ambassador who admits to smuggling fags out of the Middle East
>>129267347>has a gay ambassador who admits to smuggling fags out of the Middle Eastthats gigabased though
>>129267353Sure it is, pole smoker.
>>129266439Ah yes its all for Israel. You and David Smith are faggots.
>>129266974Nice opinion, Shlomo!
>>129267282the claim was Nixon and Trump were/are uniquely bad.so yes, the only way to properly gauge that against others that were involved in the same competition at the same level.I mean if somebody said so and so player in an American football game was gouging at people's eyes, grabbing their nuts, biting fingers, etc., everybody would say that is way, out of line, unsportsmanlike behavior, until you learn that's what almost all NFL players do to each other at the bottom of a scrum for a fumble.
>>129266943Just points fingers, no examples. Good job commie.
>>129267368Yes. Nixon destroyed the economy for Israel in 1973 and Trump freely admits to giving Israel whatever it wants, says he wants more Israeli control over our political system and is on the precipice of another war in the Middle East for Israel. >>129267387I've given plenty of examples.>>129267371>at the same levelHillary Clinton is not at the same level, as she's never been the President, much less during the 2016 campaign.
>>129267406Between her financing the bullshit Steele dossier and Obama using federal agencies to spy on the Trump campaign, I would say that's pretty bad. Worse than Nixon for sure.
>>129267282>>129267406I was talking about both her and Bill Clinton
>>129267505Why did they also have the FBI harrassing people who protested outside abortion clinics?
>>129267505Obama had nothing to do with the investigations into Trump's campaign. Unlike Trump, agencies under him were actually independent from the administration. Furthermore, Nixon actually did want his opponents bugged and spied on. This is an illegal abuse of presidential power, something that Hillary Clinton never had. The Clinton campaign promoting Russiagate is similar to Trump promoting the Birther Hoax.>>129267537Bill Clinton didn't use presidential powers to spy on and sabotage his opponents' campaigns either.
>>129266953
>>129267623What about all the journalists who mysteriously died after trying to investiagte them?
>>129267637>I am arguing with the cartoon of a redneck Republican voter that exists in my head
>>129267666why then do you argue with a cartoon version of a liberal in your head that probably look like a fat feminist with a nose ring and purple hair?
>>129267406trump wasn't president when she did that to him.and she was secretary of state and had the then current Dem president sic the whole state apparatus on him.learn facts, bro.
If these people truly believed ICE are nazis or gestapo or whatever, why wouldn't you think they'd use deadly force on protesters? And if they were those things, why aren't these events more common?
>>129261903hey this is actually Pretti Good
>>129264414https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdYepYGHHE0
>>129267666>parrot the exact "talking points" of alcoholic redneck Recucklicans>cope and sneed when someone treats you the exact same way that those pathologically uncivil degenerates should be treated(You) have nobody to blame but (You)rself.
>>129267647Then Trump would surely expose it, right?>>129267693>trump wasn't president when she did that to him.No shit.>and she was secretary of stateNo she wasn't. She had been out of government for four years at that point.>learn facts, bro.Take your advice, champ.
>>129262846>NugeAt what point does it stop being a coincidence that the Family Values party loves childfuckers? Do we just need to promote awareness of the incest rates in Red states?
>>129267716>why wouldn't you think they'd use deadly force on protesters? And if they were those things, why aren't these events more common?Maybe because not everyone's a nigger that defaults to violence like you want to? Wild thought, I know.
>>129268059>incest rates in Red statesAren't they highest among blacks?
>>129268086What are you even getting at? I'm saying all these protesters believe ICE are actual nazis, what kind of dumbass gets in their face and assaults them without thinking there could be consequences? Actual nazis would have mowed down half of Minneapolis by now.
>>129266977>use a family connection to con retarded megacorps out of millions of dollarsHunter's based, it wasn't corrupt because he didn't actually have sway with his father's admin. There's a reason the only people that ever had a conniption over Le Laptoperino were lead-poisoned degenerates that have 4 beers for breakfast every morning.Half of Trump's cabinet the first time around was his immediate family and the families they married into. They all had direct power over what the government did, and used it to help their business interests. Second time around is the same deal, except his cabinet has fewer immediate family members and more dysgenic retards in it.
The Boss ripped off Dylan's melody from Desolation Row. Will Bob sue? Would love to see Bruce get the Darius Rucker treatment.
>>129268105I don't know, but I doubt it. If you want to dive into some data, go ahead.
>>129268142>the biden laptop was fake news and needs to be suppressed!>the biden laptop was real but it doesn't matter!>lead-poisoned degenerates that have 4 beers for breakfast every morning.nice projection lol
>>129268125>what kind of dumbass gets in their face and assaults them without thinking there could be consequences?There's always going to be a handful of fringe crazy people. The vast majority of people protesting against ICE are non-violent and have been participating in non-violent protests all across the country, but I'm guessing Fox News isn't telling you about those.
>>129268231Nazis would definitely kill non-violent protesters. You are (oven) dodging my question.
>>129268201Le Heckin Laptoperino was a diversion for the most retarded creatures of Facebook.And if you've spent any time around alcoholics (I grew up in a small town, I know how the pathologically Undisciplined are), you would know why they overwhelmingly vote for rightoid retards.
>>129268275The real issue was the suppression of the story, not the content really. Sorry you're a hicklib, that must be annoying.
>>129268275As opposed to weed smokers, crack addicted blacks and SSRI addicted bitches who vote for the democrats
>>129268285>NOOOOOOOOO THE HECKIN JOURNALISMERINOS DIDNT PAY ATTENTION TO MY SPASTIC WHININGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!1!It's not "suppression" to dismiss people that have nothing of value to contribute to the world. Stop demanding to waste the time of your superiors.>>129268292potheads and crackheads don't vote at all. the former because they're lazy, the latter because they're homeless.also a very weird attempted deflection from the severe brain damage that alcohol causes, and how strongly that brain damage correlates with rightoid "opinions."
>>129268312>LE CENSORSHIP IS LE GOOD ACCHYULLYGod you are so fucking disingenous
>>129268312Twitter, Facebook, etc. suppressed the story and admitted to it. But you already knew that and are incapable of having an honest conversation just like the rest of your ilk.
>>129262794Best post on 4chan right now
>>129261903Shit, it's pretty catchy.
>>129264463I would put it on mute and jerk off to her since female popstars have to dress practically naked for anyone to pay attention
>>129264524 youre deludrd if you think thats what “hanging out” is or even resembles
>>129267666 trips chrcked , gargoyle
so who knows why cities like Minneapolis wants to protect illegal immigrants? there can be many reasons like wanting cheap labor or fraudulent votes.
>>129261903summer of 69 is his only good song
>>129268497That's Bryan Adams lol
>>129268529the wonderwall guy?
>>129268529I thought John Cougar Mountaincamp wrote that one
>>129268482probably has to do with the fact that 90% of the people there of Somali descent are second- or third-generation immigrants, and therefore American Citizens in completely unambiguous terms.You're just a retard that willingly defends traitors.
>>129268636>90% of the people there of Somali descent are second- or third-generation immigrantsAnd they are still sub 80 IQ retards>You're just a retard that willingly defends traitorsI'm not the one who defends massive tax fraud
>>129261911I can't. not a Springsteen fan. never have been, never will be.
>>129268636>retardableist bigot
>>129268693I'm an unapologetic Bosshead and still I thought this was a weak track. You can tell he wrote and recorded this in like 3 minutes.
>>129268245>Nazis would definitely kill non-violent protesters.They did you stupid fucking incel. His name was Alex Pretti.>"b-b-but he was there to uh...uhhh...interfere with them!"We have 0 idea of his motive. Regardless he was on the ground AND had been subdued by several cops when he was shot. That sounds like subhuman Nazi shit to me.
>>129261903Billy Bragg also dropped an anti-ICE song yesterday. Protest music is back.
>>129268736You cannot be this retarded, anon
>>129268736Completely unable to argue in good faith and/or baiting. Compare what is going on in America to what Iran does to protesters. That is what actual nazis would do.
>>129268718>You can tell he wrote and recorded this in like 3 minutes.I feel like that's every new Bruce song since 2000.
>>129268766>no argumentGo ahead and point out what I'm wrong about. I'll wait but I have a feeling I'll be waiting for a long time>>129268783>also no argumentFunny how much incels get stunlocked by facts>b-but Iran is le worse!Irrelevant. Now who's arguing in bad faith
>>129268789>>129268718do you really expect a 76 year old man to spend 11 months working on something like he did with Darkness at the Edge of Town?
>>129268821The dude kicked the tail light off an ICE vehicle a week before and they didn't arrest him. He got in between a federal agent and the woman he was trying to detain. That isn't peaceful protest. We know why he was there. Please PLEASE explain why this alleged gestapo working for "literally Hitler" isn't killing dissenters indiscriminately like fascists always have been able to do?
>>129262840I just like to assault the opposite sex with my penis including your mom
>>129268457its very limited
>>129268884Then you arrest him and give him due process of law. You don't let several officers subdue him on the ground and then let another officer take a step back and murder him.
>>129268668>And they are still sub 80 IQ retardsThis means nothing coming from someone with an IQ of 87 at the absolute maximum.How did it feel when that Nick Shirley dipshit got praise from your Masters? That was a big moment for you Fetal Alcohol Syndrome cunts.
>>129268978>ignores the question lmao
>>129268978I agree he shouldn't have been killed. Maybe there was some confusion due to dozens of rape whistles going off.
>>129268884>why aren't they killing indiscriminately?Because they haven't yet been authorized to, and they're obligated to hold up some illusion of "procedure" and "decorum" for the time being.Also most of them don't have the stomach for it because they're fat, pathologically undisciplined larping cunts.
>>129269041I can smell the butthurt on you through the screen
>>129269012>aaaaaaaa the noise is too loud im getting heckin overstimmied i better shoot my gunerino instead of getting away from the source of the noisethey're such pathetic creatures. that's what makes them dangerous: you cannot predict the actions of something that cannot Think.
>>129269006I gave an example of indiscriminate murder. They killed an already-subdued person on the ground that posed 0 threat to any officer's life. Why couldn't they have arrested him instead? I'm guessing you'll ignore this question.
>>129269059>y-y-you m-mad?Do you think it's Heckin Based that the dregs of society are being granted uncheckable power over the life and death of their societal superiors?Is that because you too are in the bottom 10% of mankind, and find yourself clapping and squeeing when your fellow dysgenics try to rise above their station?
>>129269041>two more weeks until the nazis start nazi-ing, I swear!Pathetic
>>129262794Heh.
>>129269110The dregs of society are actually being rounded up and deported. Why are you so hell-bent on allowing rapists and murderers to stay in this country?If you had legally immigrated here, wouldn't you be passed about everyone who skipped the line?
>>129268744black unity!
>>129269168if the actual dregs of society were removed (ie. every racist mullet trailer park dwelling redneck) there would be no more Dump supporters left.
>>129268999>This means nothing coming from someone with an IQ of 87 at the absolute maximum.I have IQ over 130 And I have no idea who Nick Shirley is
>>129269168>uncritically parroting the unsubstantiated claims of the drunkest "men" on the planetAre you sincerely retarded enough to think that there are judges out there that were seeing criminal cases for rape and murder, and saying "Well, you've been found guilty of the charges before you, but you're an illegal immigrant so we have to let you go"? Murderers and rapists that were in the US illegally were being deported, after serving their sentences. That is how the criminal justice system has always functioned.Biden and Obama both deported more people per year than the Kidfucker-In-Chief did in his first term.If they were going after the dregs of society, most ICE agents wouldn't have longer rap sheets than most illegals. Citizens commit more crimes than immigrants, both legal and illegal, and ICE's vetting process is non-existent. Most of these "agents" are serial woman beaters and/or otherwise unfit for civilized society.
>>129269080>still hasn't answered the questionLMAO
>>129269199lmao I love how shitlibs like you support racism and stereotyping but only as long as it's against white people because they are a safe target
>>129269253Your naiveté is actually astounding, bravo
>>129269253You are a parody of a person. You really deny that liberal D.A.s don't let people out without needing cash bail and then they slip through the cracks? Obama's deportations also counted people turned away at the border. Also he loved ICE enough to be filmed riding around with them for a news segment. Seek help.
>>129269269>be born a winner of the demographic lottery - white, straight, male, in a First World superpower>still end up a complete fucking failure addicted to pills and cheap hoochMost white people don't fuck up like that. Only the ones retarded enough to vote for Rightoid politicians. They're fair game.
>>129269315Most dysgenic freaks vote for the left though
>>129269287>taking the effort to put the accent on the é>doesn't know about the umlaut over the ïIt's naïveté, you dumb fucking phoneposter.>>129269304>yeah well if I just make up a bunch of shit on zero evidence you're actually Wrong!! xDDdD>>>/r/ope>>129269332>n-n-n-n-no y-y-youah yes, how could I forget that all these dysgenic, undisciplined, uncivil freaks applying to join ICE "voted for the left."
>>129269370You are a sad, strange little man. And you have my pity.
>le heckin toy story referencerinooooo!!1!We did it Reddit!Thanks for the Gold, kind stranger!You sir win the Internet for today!
>>129269411Kek
>>129269528That only works if you aren't actually a redditor like yourself
>>129269528Now it doesn't seem like bait. You are a bonfide, seething, low-information lefty.
Libtardism.Leftism in general is a effeminate ideology.Communists, libtards, etc. are not white.They forsake their race in favour of their fantasy of an international proletariat or whatever.Punctually, this is the result of post-WWII grooming.Christian cuck morality + rationalism + altruistic autism
>n-n-no it is y-y-y-y-you who are r-r-r-redditI want to say they're not sending their best, but I honestly think this is the best the right can muster. These are their champions. The lowest people on the social ladder, fighting to protect the wealth of demons that wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.Tragic.
>>129269673>Communists, libtards, etc. are not white.They're literally whiter than white supremacists.
They are actually brownerin america leftism is associated with Ellis islander ancestry (Italian, Greek, Jewish)These are all practices that have a semitic/middle eastern traditionIn fact blacked cuckold porn, transexuality, etc are all created by Jews.This is a long tradition of Oriental effeminacy being contagious,All of the left wing and cuckoldy cleftism is originated, again, in Christianity, (mostly left nowadays) which is again a middle eastern traditionPederasty, transexuality, communitarian longhousing, again middle easternUltimately it can be also associated with he EEF (med/middle eastern)The libtard shot recently defending Somalian rapists was a literal Italian/Jew commie cuck.The most right wing groups in america are Southerners, anglo descended Americans, scotch-irish, dutch, etc.HELL in fact communism was created by a Jewish cuck (Karl mordecai Marx: the moor)oThese people are not white.They are orientalized/sensitized.They are more EEF/natufian than Yamanya mentally
>They are actually browner>in america leftism is associated with Ellis islander ancestry (Italian, Greek, Jewish)>These are all practices that have a semitic/middle eastern tradition>In fact blacked cuckold porn, transexuality, etc are all created by Jews.>This is a long tradition of Oriental effeminacy being contagious,>All of the left wing and cuckoldy cleftism is originated, again, in Christianity, (mostly left nowadays) which is again a middle eastern tradition>Pederasty, transexuality, communitarian longhousing, again middle eastern>Ultimately it can be also associated with he EEF (med/middle eastern)>The libtard shot recently defending Somalian rapists was a literal Italian/Jew commie cuck.>The most right wing groups in america are Southerners, anglo descended Americans, scotch-irish, dutch, etc.>HELL in fact communism was created by a Jewish cuck (Karl mordecai Marx: the moor)o>These people are not white.>They are orientalized/sensitized.>They are more EEF/natufian than Yamanya mentally
>>129269332case in point
>>129269370>when the seething autist tries to be taken seriously
>>129269862bro none of these people vote
>>129269842>indian picturenot so sure about that considering he defended Dixie.
Was just gonna make a thread. Holy cringe kino.
>man of the people>calls himself "The Boss"
>>129268884> He got in between a federal agent and the woman he was trying to detainWhat were they trying to detain her for? She was a citizen and on the side of the road. She wasn't impeding their job.Why did they have to shoot him?They've pressed charges against citizens who they shot (which were dismissed by the prosector or judge because they were lying): https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/21/us/marimar-martinez-shooting-case-what-we-know
>>129269116>>129267716>If these people truly believed ICE are nazis or gestapo or whateverthe nazis didn't start off by executing their enemies in the street. As for why do people make the comparison of ice to secret police or the gestapo:They are violating the 4th by having it being their official position that they can break into your house without a warrant: https://reason.com/2026/01/26/leaked-ice-memo-claims-agents-can-enter-homes-without-judicial-warrants/The vice president supported that: https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2026/01/22/vance-defends-ice-memo-telling-agents-they-can-raid-homes-without-a-judges-warrant/They have started going door to door in some places demanding papers from people in houses:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/08/jd-vance-promises-aggressive-immigration-enforcement/88086884007/They've detained citizens even after recieving evidence that they are citizens:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/09/maryland-woman-us-citizen-released-ice-custody
>>129261903Lmao
>>129264665>>129264665conservatives love when white children are killed by the govt.
Bruce has turned into angry old boomer who rants about something he saw on the evening news.
>>129261903rage against the machine are releasing a track on saturday at 9.05am (minneapolis time) called Fight The Police (and get shot)
>>129271367they have immigration court warrants, retard.there are some legal questions regarding if those warrants can be used like regular court warrants for door-to-door searches, but i'd say its 99% likely the Supremes will say, "well, of course, duh"