How do I get audio into my computer machine without spending $200+?I have a guitar and a toy Glockenspiel and such.
FOCUSRITE 2I2>b-butKYS FOCUSRITE 4 LYFE
>>129263408>150 bucksAlright, that's a bit better than $200.I feel like the used market is pretty competitive for these kind of devices. There's a ton of broke musicians scouring eBay and the likes because they're NEETs and looking to get a good deal.
>>129263403Cheap Behringer USB interface. Cheap Behringer XLR microphone (dynamic for close micing loud stuff or live performances where you want something that can survive some rough treatment, condenser for everything else). Cardioid polar pattern is easier to use and not as sensitive to room acoustics. Whatever XLR cable and mic stand is cheapest. Your guitar plugs directly into the interface. Behringer stuff is always great value for money, and they're extra based for making collectors seethe by cloning expensive synths and effects pedals. You should be able to get an okay setup for less than $100.
>>129263442Theres lots of those going around. Theyre super popular. Get the mkii. Theyre red and gorgeous. Then go and thrift condenser mic, mic stand cables and a delay/reverb pedal.
>>129263403If you have a smart phone you can just use that to record while using a metronome and sync up the tracks later in a DAW
>>129263622I dont have a smartphone, they're too niggerlicious for my liking.>>129263482>Cardioid polar patternInterdasting. Is that the most common mic pattern?
>>129263403SPEND THE FUCKING MONEY AND GET A ZOOM L6>but it's over two hund—I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. DO NOT BUY THAT FOCUSRITE CRAP. YOU WILL OUTGROW IT IN A YEAR. GET THE L6.
>>129264939nta but are zooms a legitimate alternative to an interface and a proper shure mic? Can you properly record voice and guitar with those?
Pic related is all you need. Best sound/price ratio. You connect it via usb and record into audacity. It has also micro sd card slot.
>>129266155really thats all I need. I don't need to buy a bunch of crap?
This is my tascam. Is this all I need to record good music or do I need more stuff?
>>129263442You'll need a mic too. You're not spending less than 200 on this unless you have a MacBook and don't mind using the built in mic. Honestly the cheapest route is getting a date for your phone and exporting the stems into a daw on your computer for mixing. Phone mics are surprisingly decent.
>>129266158For basic quick one track recording, yes. Although for outdoor recording, some foam cap pop filter is needed, because even tiny wind movement is a bitch. The trouble comes when you want to record more inputs onto one another. Then you need some soundcard (because regular pc internal soundcard can't deal with latency) and then with that, a regular microphone with it is better. Something like Focusrite 2i2 or Steinberg ur22, and a classic shure sm57 or sm58 microphones. Also don't forget headphones. Good ones are sony mdr7506. Nice convenience is that the soundcards come usually with some basic professional daw, like cubase le, which is a mile lot better than audacity. If you have the zoom >>129266155 , or >>129266181 tascam, watch this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lMZP0F79Fk . If you get the soundcard and mics combo watch this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSsv74a-GEA . But if you just need to make a simple one track demo, a good smartphone is usually good enough. Iphones or some high tier androids have surprisingly good mics.
>>129263403Fuck you, poorfag.I'd say you have to spend between $200 and $500 to properly put sound into your computer, that's counting the DAW. After all you can use the new version of Audacity which I assume is pretty decent now (because I know one of the devs (not personally, like I know who he is parasocially)). Otherwise use Reaper.But yeah >>129264939 don't buy a Dasrite ScarletRot, buy like an Arturia MiniFuse2 which has everything you need and more for the same price.Also, you fucking dummies! Don't buy ASMR microphones to record your shit! Use proper mics that you plug XLR into your interface, use your computer to monitor the signals.
>>129266181It's linear, it's shit.Use cardioid.
>>129266363>which has everything you need and more for the same price.Does it have focusrite's quality of analog inputs and plugins? No? Okay. Enjoy your noisey this recordings I guess. Might as well buy an interface off temu.
>>129264939>>129266363>DO NOT BUY THAT FOCUSRITE CRAP. YOU WILL OUTGROW IT IN A YEAR.LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOHOW DO YOU "OUTGROW" A RECORDING INTERFACE WITH TOP CLEAR SOUND AND EXCELLENT PREAMPS YOU FUCKING CLOWN>GEEE I THINK 96K ISNT ENOUGH FOR ME, I MINIMUM NEED 300K MY SHITTY EARS ARE ALREADY STRAINING FROM 96K I THINK I CAN ALREADY HEAR THE PIXELS IN THE SOUNDBET YOU DONT EVEN RECORD MUSIC YOU SHITASS DELUSIONAL SHITHEAD
>>129266509Unironically this. Anyone who shits on Scarletts has a drive with 10 years worth of unfinished songs and nothing released online. Focusrite chads stay winning. It's the only way to get a clear studio quality recording at home on a budget. Everything else is gimmicky fotm trash
>>129266435>>129266509kys
>>129266435>Does it have focusrite's quality of analog inputs and plugins?It does.
>>129266080the l6 is a mixer so yes it works. the thing you see in the op pic is not, that's mostly for field recording purposes.
>>129266563Everything I've read from reddit to gearspace says you're wrong. It's cheap Chinese crap using generic parts, and all the perceived "warmth" is software based (hidden eq and compression that you can't turn off). Defend your dumb purchase more though. Or just buy a $70 used 2i4 on eBay like you should've in the first place.
>>129266181>Is this all I need to record good musicyou also need talent for that
>>129266509>HOW DO YOU "OUTGROW" A RECORDING INTERFACE WITH TOP CLEAR SOUND AND EXCELLENT PREAMPS YOU FUCKING CLOWNIT'S LITERALLY JUST A FUCKING 2X INPUT INTERFACE WITH NO MIXING CAPABILITIES, ONLY STAGING. THE INSTANT YOU NEED MORE THAN TWO INPUTS AT A TIME (WHICH WILL ARRIVE FASER THAN YOU'D THINK) YOU'RE SHIT OUTTA LUCK. THE L6 IS LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING THING EXCEPT WITH TWELVE INPUTS, BATTERY POWER AND AN ASSLOAD OF FEATURES THE FOCUSRITE DOESNT HAVE
>>129266080>nta but are zooms a legitimate alternative to an interface and a proper shure mic?yes. sound quality is excellent, price range is similar and a mixer is generally a much better value than a standalone interface. same xlr / quarter inch trs inputs too + phantom power so whatever mic you want to use should work just fine, or guitars or whatever.
>>129266325cheers, the video series by that twink was pretty nice to get a basic overview
>>129266509gemmy>>129268300brimstone coal
>>129263403Spend $50 on a used Behringer UMC interface and $70 on a used Audio Technica AT2020. Later if you want you can upgrade to a better preamp but keep using the Behringer because the line-ins are very clean.
>>129270399>2I2>2X XLR / TRS HYBRID INPUT>48V PHANTOM POWER>DIRECT MONITORING>USB POWER>$219>L6>2X XLR / TRS HYBRID INPUT>8X ADDITIONAL TRS INPUT>48V PHANTOM POWER>DIRECT MONITRING>SD CARD SLOT FOR INTERNAL 10-TRACK RECORDING>32 BIT FLOAT RESOLUTION>SCENE PRESETS>BUILT IN FX>ASSIGNABLE PADS>USB POWER>BATTERY POWER>$329THEY'RE THE SAME SIZE. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU EVER BUY A 2I2 WHEN THE L6 EXISTS. WHAT LOGICAL REASON COULD YOU POSSIBLY HAVE FOR THAT.
>>129270616OH AND>BUILT IN 3 BAND EQON TOP OF ALL THAT
>>129270565how's the driver support for these Behringer USB interfaces, is it a pain in the ass to get working or basically plug and play?I'm a bit worried about purchasing a used USB interface and running into driver issues.
>>129271069On a Mac it is plug and play, on Windows I don't know
I’m quite sure your retarded and won’t take my objectively correct advice but here it is:Universal Audio Volt 276 interfaceShure sm57Shure sm58Audiotechnica mth-40xAnd if you need a mid keyboard, get m-audio 49 key.I have much better taste than anyone on this board and I actually know what I’m talking about. These are the best in class most affordable options for music-making. You can get all of them used on reverb or craigslist for less than retail.>t. Someone with $40,000 in recording equipment who worked his way up over a decade from the bottom tier options
>>129271143>I’m quite sure your retarded
>>129271143>"I’m quite sure your retarded and won’t take my objectively correct advice but">[genuinely some of the worst advice posted to this board in years]great recs (for 2015) anon!
>>129271143The microphones alone will blow OP's budget, chucklefuck.
>>129271069>>129271102Plug and play. They offer asio4all in the driver downloads, but otherwise it just uses a generic audio codec.
>>129271143r/wearethemusicmakers is in the other building sir
>>129271102>>129271330cheers, that's nice. I've had bad experiences with USB DJ Controllers.
>>129271298Volt 276 came out 2021>>129271316Nigga shut the fuck up>>129271341You need to literally bend over and suck my dickPic related it’s what I was doing last week. Don’t listen to these losers, get the uad cuz it sounds best, get the audio technica cuz they sound best, get the Shure cuz using a cheap condenser in an untreated room sounds like shit and you can much more easily add highs to a dynamic with eq than remove them from a bad condenser recording>t. An actual pro which is again why my advice sounds different than theirs I am better at this than they are
>>129266368i dont think you know what either of those words mean. even if the internal mics werent cardiod you can still use an external mic with the dr05 and pretty much any other recorder
use any zoom recorder with internal mics if you are a noob and dont really care about the intricacies of recording
>>129271563There are retarded 14 year old niggers in the hood with audio interfaces and fruity loops just plug the fucking usb in and press record you retarded idiot fucking mong
>>129271537this nigga so retarded </3
>>129266181this is one of the first recorders i used. for tascam i prefer the dr40 because it has more inputs, can do multiple tracks and can record a backup track which is useful for live performances where it's difficult to gauge the level. im not familiar with the newer 32bit float recorders by tascam but in my experience 32bit float is overkill because in almost all cases 24 bit already gives you a big enough safety net to capture what you want.
>>129271589Just say you’re mad cuz you’re broke!
>>129271631myself having spent more than id care to admit on this kind of equipment, you're right that when it comes to recording you get what you pay for. the point of this thread is to help a beginner on a low budget out so boasting about your million dollar rig isnt really helpful. you made a good point earlier about working your way up from bottom tier equipment. that really is the best way to go about it. when you factor in selling your old stuff, budget becomes much less of a burden when buying better stuff.
>>129271631>hi so my budget is $200, I'm just looking for a way to record instruments into my compu—>SHUT THE FUCK UP I WORK AT A RECORDING STUDIO BUY $600 WORTH OF GEAR. LITERALLY 3 TIMES YOUR BUDGET. IF YOU DON'T DO IT YOURE RETARDED FUCK YOUand they weren't even good recs either lmao. kys
>*exists*>makes retards seethehow the fuck does she do it?
>>129272342I didn't know that scarlet was such a contentious topic for this board.
>>129272342>costs about as much as far more capable competitors but does very little>brand loyalists still act like it's the no-brainer option>"heh. rent free"focusriteniggers are the itoddlers of wannabe music prodoocers
>>129272296Just go on reverb and get a 276 for $200 it’s very easy. And if you can afford to get a 70$ of headphone and a $70 mic on top of that maybe just give up on life.>>129272185All of my recommendations are literally the best in class lowest budget options. If you can’t afford to spend $300 on an interface mic and headphones then you shouldn’t even bother. And that’s not even factoring in stands and cables.>>129272428Scarlett is fine but uad is better. Vintage button and comp button is a great way for noobs to get introduced to diff tonal possibilities
>>129271631You're a gay nigger
>>129272505I’m gonna elaborate further. I have a friend who is literally a multimillionaire can afford to get anything and he still uses a shitty Scarlett and a shitty condenser. Why because he’s ignorant because of the legions of brokies that cope with ‘good enough’ advice that shit up the internet claiming you shouldn’t actually try to get something good.Don’t get a Scarlett, get a uad cuz it’s better and basically costs the same. Don’t get a shitty condenser, get a Shure sm58 dynamic cuz it’s much more versatile and sounds better in less ideal recording spaces. Don’t get some shitty random headphones, get audiotechnica ath-m40x because they are very flat and musical and they are closed back so you can use them for monitoring while you record. My advice is awesome and if any of you had sense you would thank me for enlightening you.
>>129272533I’m white!
Wow look at that it doesn’t cost $600
>>129272505>Just go on reverb and get a 276 for $200 it’s very easy. ok cool now explain the rest of the shit you listed. and why would anyone buy a standalone interface when you could get a used l6 for the same price? you're retarded anon.
>>129272739Because you can use an interface with a computer and a daw in other words the single most common recording format in the world lol. Getting a standalone recorder is for literal mouthbreathing smoothbrained retards you can get literally any music software for free if you aren’t using a computer to make music you are an idiot. I think you quite literally have no idea what you are talking about if you think that it somehow a superior solution that is a niche product for a niche use case not at all fulfilling for the goal of making music as an individual in your house
>>129272342>YOU'LL OUTGROW IT THOUGH YOU WILL NEED TO RECORD MULTIPLE TRACKS AT ONCE AT SOME POINT BECAUSE I SAID SO
>>129272843>Because you can use an interface with a computer and a daw yeah, I could, or I could use a mixer + daw and get more worth out of my money instead of wasting it like a retard lmao.stupid ass nigger really said "uhm everybody else does it" fucking roflmaogive me one solid reason anyone should pay the same amount of money they would on a small mixer but actively choose to not have the option to do things mixers are capable of doing, like recording without a computer or using an eq or plugging in more than two things at a time. you can't, because it's a stupid thing to do. it's better to have the option than to not have it, especially if you're not saving any substantial amount of money by giving up the option. you're the type of consumerist nigger cattle that Apple knew would be ok with buying a thousand dollar phone with no headphone jack. i wish i was in the same room as you so i could spit on you and call you a faggot to your face
Don't use amp sims for guitar, they always sound like ass no matter what. Buy the cheapest xlr dynamic mic you can find on ebay along with an xlr cable and mic whatever amplifier you're using and run it through a cheap behringer interface. Play around with placement and you can find something that'll sound better than any amp sim. Do 90% of your EQ on the amp and in the room with mic and amp placement. Your recorded tone should be 85% your finished tone.If you're recording in your bedroom you're either making a demo, embrace a bit of lofi sound. Don't waste too much time on mixing or adding any effects. That's a whole skill separate from songwriting and you're better off writing good songs and recording them in whatever way you can.
>>129271537>cheap condenser in an untreated roomCondenser vs. dynamic doesn't matter. Room sound is all about polar pattern and distance from the source. Dynamic mics don't magically reject room sound, they're just not sensitive enough to use in ways that emphasize the room sound. You can get the same effect on a condenser by turning down the gain.
>>129263403Don't get an interface at all. Get the cheapest usb c microphone you can find on tiktok shop and plug that into your phone. Just as good as an interface at a fraction of the cost
>>129273009I guarantee that mixer doesn’t sound as good at the volt. That’s the reason. If you really want to use a mixer and make it sound good what you should do is get analog one and use a different converter but it doesn’t even matter what you’re talking about is silly and irrelevant for the OP.If you record using an interface instead of being limited to your shitty mixers bootleg effects you can torrent Ableton torrent autotune Valhalla and fabfilter and monitor using premium fx with negligible latency and actually have something that sounds good instead of your retarded bootleg aftermarket budget mixer trash. If you said that to my face I would no exaggeration beat you to death.>>129273065Of course it does lol. Look at the frequency response of a shure sm58 and rode nt1a. It’s not just gain. Much better practice to record at normal levels with dynamic and use eq to emphasize whatever you want emphasized.>>129273068This is why you people are neets. This is like telling op to eat totinos pizza rolls and Mountain Dew for every meal because it’s cheap and just as good as real food.
>>129273142>I guarantee that mixer doesn’t sound as good at the volt. i agree actually! L6 records in 32 bit float. volt 276 only supports up to 24-bit / 192 kHz conversion. so it's measurably worse. you clueless faggot. i'm not even reading the rest of your post. give me your studio's contact information so i can email them and tell them how incompetent you are. you fucking DEI piece of shit
>>129273142>Look at the frequency responseIf you're going to EQ it to your preferred sound anyway then all that's going to do is change the sound of the noise floor. It has no relevance to room acoustics. To reduce the importance of room acoustics, you can close mic, and you can use a more selective polar pattern. The most famous dynamic mic (SM57) happens to be a cardioid that's very well suited to close micing, so it's good for avoiding room sound. But that is a result of close micing and cardioid pattern, not the fact that it's a dynamic.
>>129273181The LSBs are already pure noise at 24bit.
>>129273211anon are you telling me you do this shit for a living and still don't know what the benefits of 32 bit float are...
>>129273181I work for myself lol. Noise floor is completely irrelevant compared to sound of preamps and implementation of conversion. Yes the volt has a worse noise floor no it doesn’t matter at all practical level in this use case when compared to the much more important sound of the preamps and converters.>>129273202Shitty cheap condensers have pronounced sizzly top end which when paired with drywall comb-filtered rooms sounds like shit. That’s why on a budget you should use a dynamic. There is nothing to argue with here it’s just the truth everything else you’re saying is not germane to the matter at hand.
>>129273234Sounds like u don’t nigga 32bit float isn’t relevant if the preamps aren’t ultra low noise to take advantage of it. For this thing on the other hand…
>>129273239mkay so your answer is that it "sounds better" in ways that are so indescribable and subtle it might as well just be placebo if you're not using specialized tools to detect the differences, and that tradeoff is worth sacrificing all of the many genuinely useful features the L6 offers because...because you say so.just stop posting at this point.
>>129273276>ultra low noise to take advantage of itYou probably can't even record 20 bit clean.
>>129273290I don’t gotta describe shit to you I’m telling you in my professional opinion as some who actually makes money off his taste in sound that they sound worse + you’re broke + you’re gay and also you should die so kill yourself you stupid pussy faggot nigger cunt asshole dicksucker lol
>>129273239>pronounced sizzly top endJust EQ it down. When you don't need something that can handle rough treatment or high SPL, condenser is more flexible.
>>129273309ahh bitch you madd. look at you fucking seething cuz your little shitbox ain't all it's cracked up to be. sad little faggot
>>129273319No it’s worse when you eq down a cheap condenser than eq boost a cheap dynamic that’s my whole point. I think it’s much better to be able to record at normal levels with a dynamic than try to compensate with whisper quiet gain on condenser and fucking up your top end with drywall comb filter sizzle>>129273305I can do a whole lot right from the convert of my home studio pussy
>>129273346I would like you to remember the things you said to me today when you are cold hungry and alone in the time to come.
>>129273385and I will, i could use a good laugh
>>129273408Just remember I have everything and you have nothing
>>129273453and apparently you don't know how to use any of that everything you have anyway
>>129273463It never ceases to tickle me that idiot faggots think the world is retarded because that’s the prism they see out of lol
>>129273474it never ceases to tickle me that idiot faggots think their word is gospel because they're the only ones on the internet who know how audio interfaces work
>>129273495My word is gospel everything I say and do is correct and rest assured if you met me and disrespected me I would kill you instantly with no remorse I wouldn’t even feel it in fact I would laugh
>>129273511don't care + you're butt befuddled + L6 mogged
>>129273526You’re wrong about everything you believe
Roland VS-880ex Virtual Studio. Everything you need, nothing you don't.
>>129271537OP has a budget of $200. You're telling him to spend at least $500. Actual retard. OP's better off just looking up Booth Junkie on youtube, an actual professional voiceover guy, and taking advice from him.
>>129273571if that were true you wouldn't be so mad about anything I say but here we are. watch, you can't even resist responding to this post. I can (You) farm the fuck out of you for as long as I want and you won't even have the self control to stop it you fucking lifeless npc
>>129273767If you would please consult the graph >>129272652 . Voiceover is not music, I’m an audio engineer and musician and I’m a pro who is smarter than you>>129273770And you
>>129273814see? you have autism and you're predictable af. seeya faggot
>>129273901Bye nigger
>>129273016sounds based
>>129263403>Plug into computer's microphone jack>Plug guitar lead into it>Record off microphone input
>>129271552I an instrument recording setting I have been taught to use a cardioid mic. Linear is for wide sound captation.I'm of the idea of using the right tool for the right job.
>>129272342it looks nice so i get nice feelings and inspires me to make musicsimple as.
>>129275638it looks shit and dated
>>129275738not enough "frutiger aero" for you, homo?
>>129275773enjoy your soulless millennial clean
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UphoriaStu--behringer-u-phoria-studio-recording-podcasting-bundle
>>129276056If you actually buy this and use this to record music you are a literal goycattle slave and you deserve to be rapedIf you can’t scrape together $300 to buy something better than the literal slimiest stinkiest chinkshit crap on Amazon you should not make music at all but you should kill yourself
>>129276111OP asked for something affordable, not something high tier. Post your music and prove your genius level recording skills. And I DO mean recordings done with microphones, not just bleep, bleep, bloop, bloop virtual instruments. Lets hear it keyboard warrior. But we won't. So drink bleach.
how about cheap Behringer + SM57 + pirate software
>>129276111That gear sounds better than any analog professional setup. Most famous albums were recorded on analog tape. The sound quality is objectively crap yet people like them anyway.
i really dont get why broke bois think they gonna make it as a singer song writer or whatever. like, first of all you're poor, so it's not like you can afford good things to eat. so you're tired and hungry all the time. so your ideas are bad: they're the ideas of a starving, scared little idiot. second of all you can't afford any of the shit you need: stu, cru, etc, all these are barred to you. finally you have to realize you're a dime a dozen: everyone in your boat thinks they're going to charm the snake and escape the matrix with their magic poetry. you really don't have anything to set yourself apart, nor the capability to realize what that might even be.
>>129276820*throws rocks* FAGGOT
>>129263403get Teenage Engineering CM-15, TX-6 and TP-7
>>129274847should we all just kill ourselves
>>129276216>pirate softwareUnnecessary. Cakewalk is a free basic daw. https://www.cakewalk.com/next
>>129273814>voiceover is not musicYou can still get a viable setup that ACTUALLY FITS OP'S BUDGET INSTEAD OF NEARLY DOUBLING IT YOU AUTISTIC COCK MONGLER using a voiceover guy's recording booth and setup guide. You're burning his entire budget on the overly expensive and high end interface alone, not to mention the overpriced headphones that cost over half the budget.
>>129278406so is REAPER and Audacity
>>129276820some people just do a thing for fun
>>129280524the vapidalism jew has conditioned the white mind into a niggerish compulsion to measure one's own worth by excess wealth and pointless work. the majority of americans literally cannot comprehend the concept of doing things merely because you can. money is their ONLY motivation for any given action, and anything that doesn't serve toward that effect is not done at all. this is where "grind" culture comes from. (((they))) will have you working for peanuts until you die bragging about it.
>>129283127and artists will see no way to make money and just stop making art in these times. zoomers are especially died in the wool quitters before they even try
gayest thread ever, so im gonna bump it
