Classical music is dead. Nobody listens to contemporary. How do we revive it, or at least reconstruct something similar?
sometimes I listen to classical music when I'm in the moodI have a feeling this is true for millions of peoplewhat is there to talk about all these people are dead and we all know the good pieces so just listen to them when you feel like it And there are composers writing music that is classical-inspired but it would be very silly to suppose you could write a minuet or a quartet piece in 2026 and think it's better than anything mozart did
>>129274737Was Mozart "better" than Bach? Was Beethoven "better" than Mozart? Was Wagner "better" than Beethoven?
Few people make or listen to classical music anymore because popular music grew enough to bridge and even encroach upon art music territory, taking the majority of would-be classical listeners.
>>129274724Make people level up they piano skills a fuck load. And Music will be great again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXtcJP_AFUYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I5fqus8HMAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg5D6E9bo38https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--BPcCaeQUyou dont simply say lets return to the core of music: melody and thats it, you need to train plebs for years to get it. There is no ways around it. I guess AI but AI makes mistakes.
>>129274724have your heard about nintendo?
>>129275690its not that good. Hamauzu mogs them.in fact the orchestal renditions of nintendo songs are all worse than the original ones. Hamauzu is a chad he actually has his own band and everything and he plays jazz fusion not only NeoClassical
>>129274724>How do we revive itThe skill celing is really high I don't think you can "revive" it. And it wont come from zoomers. It can come from Gen Alpha if they care about instrumental music and want to push the medium hard but they need to go through the whole process of Shitty Garage Punk Rock > Rock > Prog > Classical or something like that. People are rarely interested in classical from a young age unless your parents also liked it and explained to you why it's good music. Like how Yngwie got raised.
electronic music needs to be destroyed firstand recorded music which has been a tragedy on itself, needs to die. dance music was classical instrument territory beforebut we also need innovation, we need a simple droning string instrument in the west, one that doesnt cost a fortune and that effortlessly drones forever
>>129275731my ass. Electronic is fine plebs dont know how to make it melodic but that aint my problem.Electronic + Piano musical theory go hand in hand, literally just git gud
>>129274724>Classical music is deadI'll accept the premise for the sake of argument, even though it isn't really true. Classical music isn't dead; it just changed, and "I don't like contemporary music" is not the same as "it doesn't exist".But let's say that it's dead. To that I would say: and that's a good thing. The same is true of literature and the visual arts. What remains are artifacts, and in the case of classical music, living artifacts, since the works are recreated every time they're performed. Nothing lasts forever. Civilizations peak artistically and move on. We've already got more great music than a single person could meaningfully absorb in a lifetime, recorded at a good level of fidelity and performance quality.>How do we revive it, or at least reconstruct something similar?You don't. Unless you're willing to rebuild the entire world that produced it. That would mean a shared aesthetic and ideological framework, elite aristocratic and bourgeois patronage instead of markets, a coherent educational canon, serious long term training and an audience capable of sustained attention. In other words: abolish the current system, resurrect an aristocratic, clerical and bourgeois patron class, reverse cultural flattening ("everything is the same/equal/subjective/valid") and drastically improve education and cognitive standards. Good luck with that.
>>129276342we must get an asian kid that is born in a Music Conservatoire and he breathes, lives and is taught music all his life.
>>129275718your post makes it seem like you are turbo retarded. or you are just having a bad day? hope you get better if that is the case
>>129276358don't those already exist, i don't think technical skill is the bottleneck
>>129274724Get rid of equal temperament
>>129278083this, get rid of DEI and music will be great again
>>129278199but you've already been telling me trump killed DEI for dead for months. what gives?
>>129278199Do you not know what that means or are you being a silly William?
You need a rich, elitist class unmolested by contact with the proles. Only they would have the resources to permit dozens of people to devote their lives to training and playing music in a concert setting. But we live very much in a robin hood society where we cheer for the underdog, the little guy. Until that changes, consider classical dead.
>>129278939>muh societyIt's the universities, the arts foundations and the "critics"
>>129278939>Only they would have the resources to permit dozens of people to devote their lives to training and playing music in a concert setting.aren't there a lot of kids like this already
>>129279573Yes but there is a bottleneck, the people who are training the people who have the opportunity and circumstances to dedicate their lives to the craft themselves did not have this opportunity, and thus there is a broken chain in the craft and the techniques will not find their way down, as the competency in these techniques are absent in the instructors
>>129275256Problem is that popular "art music" sucks. Or rather that it's not as successful at being art music as classical was.
>>129276342Nobody listens to contemporary. That's the problem. It has no cultural presence
>>129276358Classical music is inherently European.
>>129280831yeah but caring about it and wanting to master is is not. Europeans are lazy inept people now.
>>129283993>Europeans are lazy inept people now.And yet everyone else speaks our languages, uses our inventions, listens to our music, and wants to come to our countries. Our culture is different from Asian culture. Don't call us "lazy" when we can't or don't want to beat them at their own game.
>>129284018its lazy manget to practice, things dont make themselves in this world you get distracted too easily
>>129274849>Was Mozart "better" than Bach?yes>Was Beethoven "better" than Mozart?no>Was Wagner "better" than Beethoven?yes
>>129284417Was Wagner better than Mozart?
>>129274724analog electronic instrumentationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EU0ISo996A
>>129284540no
What advancements has classical seen in the past few years? Who are the most exciting composers working right now?
>>129285508Philip Glass
