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>>129351700
Any guides on dynamic EQ interdependence? and Psychoacoustic tunnings?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYZKB4ftVsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjjI8nTtbVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8LGFteoC1g

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https://voca.ro/1gEdApeATZAY
mix is probably fucked, havent messed with it much

>>129352189
Based?

strong start

this is sure to be a high quality /prod/ thread

>>129351700
You need to specify no shilling like YouTube or SoundCloud

how yuo make a good son >?g

>>129348806
Having used both, I can say both are fine and you can make great music on either PC or Mac.

In my experience, Macs are better for lots of kontact libraries and virtual instruments, they can handle them better. But this matters only if you're doing orchestral / film stuff or tonnes of instruments. PCs are still capable, but Mac has an edge.

Where PCs excel is pirating vsts, paying no money for stuff and sound design tinkering. It's difficult to get straight into a good sound immediately.

Mac / Logic holds your hand a bit more and the presets are better than PC, say in Ableton it's harder to get good sounds as the Library isn't great.

There's no sound quality difference.

Hobbyist, poor, starting out, sound design priority: PC
More serious, have money, lots of preset instruments: MAC

There's crossover, like MAC can do sound design fine, just what I noted

saw that windows is making some midi improvements in the next win 11 update

is it just me or are visualizations of audio playing back in DAWs and in plugins choppier on windows and completely smooth on mac? like when some nigga is recording his screen for a tutorial in windows and presses play in FL studio the playhead stutters and lags like fuck

>>129352723
>saw that windows is making some midi improvements in the next win 11 update
Well... we're about to have a drought of new music then...

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>>129352501
Hell yeah brother
I want some1 to make A Trance beat with mixolydian classical piano chords and melody those 2 generes mix well if u know how

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>>129352587
A well planned structure.
Think of an Intro melody that is catchy or a build up instrument 1 then 2 then 3 then 4, etc there is many ways do it by steps and look up tutorials in YouTube start with "how to make a song intro" then look up good riffs you like that you can repeat, then think of a bridge that is different but still good sounding, then retvrn to verse repeat, then look up a way to close up the song. Follow this common song architecture at first.

i finally got that very specific skrillexo ID lead sound but i lost my sanity in the process and i don’t think music is worth it anymore

I am making what's supposed to be something of a cheesy love song. It's not arranged properly and no vocals recorded yet. Thoughts so far, It could do with some sort of guitar part right?

https://voca.ro/14rvyY6sN3X6

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this is my first time trying to do a proper recording on studio one. this is the demo with no vocals.

HOW DO I MAKE IT SOUND PROFESSIONAL. Open to criticisms and suggestions.
https://voca.ro/11vA0wKgGmeW

Any warez for MPC devices?

>>129352189
>https://voca.ro/1gEdApeATZAY
really good the guitar needs a bit more release but aside from that everything a 10.

>>129353185
ban music from yourself a bit and you'll want to get to it again

>>129353423
>https://voca.ro/14rvyY6sN3X6
sounds like something chef from south park could sing into while singing about bitches, i don't think a guitar is needed the song feels complete already just needs vocals. u could add more sfx if u want to tho

>>129351700
So soon bros, I'm in Roland Hell. I got the guitar pickup but had to return it ang get another that works. Now I got an aftermarket cable being replaced (13 pin DIN), and a USB-A to USB-B, this links the GK-3 to GI-10 to Presonus Audiobox to PC.
So after a box then another box and cable then replace cable x2 learning the dirty Roland Secrets I should be up and running monday lol.

>>129354590
no i already turned it into a pretty cool drop since making that post.
i don’t take breaks literally ever because im not a PUSSY and also not making music would make me spiral

>>129353690
if the vocals are the main instrument that will sound louder than the others then this mix is okidoki but until then i wouldn't know what to tell u because all instruments seem to be adjusted in volume for vocals, u can use vst tape gain in the master for final gains or compressors to give color to each instrument instead of lowering it manually if thats what u mean more professional but, a good sounding professional song is the one that is well recorded and THE ONE U ADD MORE VSTS UNTIL IT STARTS CRACKLING THE DAW BRO

>>129353690
Hello Mac

>>129353690
sounds pretty good but I think it's too dry overall and could use some reverb (careful not to overdo it), maybe a studio room reverb send, blended in to taste.
Snare sound is also repetitive, if that's a drum VST consider varying the velocity of the snare hits more. Lead guitar feels a little bit buried in the mix, it sounds good and I want to hear it a little more clearly, you could try turning that up a touch.

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>>129353423
Guitar gives it edge keep it just think of a line you can repeat that you like, you can look for cool riffs on YouTube
And remember guitar melody can harmonize well with keys. Literally both can play the same melody in unison and it sounds good, or 2 fitting melodies around a similar note range. Stuff like that is cool.

Also key bass lines can be played by an actual bass (except chords, chords tend to sound bad in the bass guitar) just stick to like single notes or arpeggios you can do on piano, they can be done in bass guitar too

https://vocaroo.com/16DeDIZNgUQa

saturday afternoon track

>>129353423
try it with another midi keys distortion the waaap wah waap wwah wapp wahh wapp I mean it sounds 80s retro but that sound is annoying me a bit, aka its your loudest chords, try another more mesmerizing but softer sounding one. And yes I like the guitar / strings in the song they sound Asian in a way, they remind me a bit of Yellow Magic Orchestra which I think they 100% influenced you to make this track.

I like it overall, its meditative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBAVAaREd8

I just got Omnisphere 3. Honestly it is so much better than 2 from what little I’ve fooled around with it

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MPC One comes today. Was supposed to be Monday

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>>129353690
Heard it once
I think it should get to the 2:40 part sooner it sounds like you are having fun. Your build up to something different takes too long, dare to switch it up more often but not too often you also must let the song marinate a bit in the brain so the riffs become memorable. Also I dont recall a bass, or at least i didn't detected it nearly enough the bass line could use being more jazzy and flashy following along.

Hi, it's Gabe Miller

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>>129355754
Hi, Gabe.

>>129351700
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWjyLeLGhaM

Maybe this MPC is gonna grow on me after all, I should have gotten a battery powered one.

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bump

Got my MPC today. Spent 2 hours getting it setup. Was a bit inconvenient needing ethernet but it's fine. Pretty annoyed that fabric isn't working on it. Since i had a live 2, I have a good idea on how to use it already.

I wish there was an Akai MPK Mini MK4 with more keys. If you want to play a nice extended chord with B in the bass, the largest interval you can hit is a minor 9th.
Sucks because the pitch and mod wheel are nice; fuck strips.

>>129356547
I miss my live 2 now I also wish I got the red one at least. I want to use this not at my desk

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holy FUCK bros im never finishing this album
tips for mixing vocals over distorted guitars??

>>129359826
I have no idea why I got rid of my live 2. MPC is so much fun. I gotta get my live 2 back.

Hey guys does this suck I'm not finished with it yet?
https://vocaroo.com/1aqfQ6gEH6Gi

>>129360630
yeah its bad and there is 1:27 seconds of silence.
Just scrap it, it was fun but dont bother, it goes nowhere.

i think...

therefore i am.

>>129359883
drown everything in reverb and call yourself a shoegaze artist. easy

>>129353690
definitely needs a room reverb and maybe a longer tail reverb. right now everything sounds very centred and theres no space. its a cool sound desu, stylistically it does work, just depends what you had in your head.

>>129359883
High pass filter higher than you think.
Compress 35dbs with stacks of compressors.
De-ess much more than you think.
Volume automate trouble areas ( most if it)

>>129362315
>Compress 35dbs with stacks of compressors
how is this done?

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https://vocaroo.com/1iCt9LRsSyO0
kesha

https://vocaroo.com/11U3hTYjSojo

How does this sound to you? Anyting I can do to make it sound better?

>>129362452
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AMtM67lZqhI

>>129362452
haphazardly

>>129362471
sorry bro

>>129362668
is it supposed to be leaning to the left like that? i would say make it wider but you're an amazing player

>>129362674
all right i still don't get it and i fucking hate this guy

>>129362684
How do I widen it? I tried doing it but when I played it on mono it sounds weird
I wouldn't even worry about that but people play a lot of stuff from their phones speakers which are mono
Also thank you for the compliment

>>129362728
just chuck a room reverb on there or even a hall and blend it as you see fit. you can overdo it and it sounds artificial.
yeah there are phase issues when it comes to stereo and downmixing to mono but as long as it's not excessively imaged, it'll be fine.
no worries man, always glad to hear other guitar players in these threads.

>>129362695
You put say grout compressors on your chain, then have each of them reduce 5-10dbs of gain. Probably works best on emo punk, what that guy does which always has a compressed / saturated vocal sound. I wouldn't do 35dbs of gain, reduction but im no pro either

>>129362764
does it matter what type of compressor are followed in the chain? he's using a couple of different ones there then a limiter. could i just put 4 1176s on the chain and produce decent results? would you differ ratios, attack/release parameters, wet/dry parameters? what dictates how set the threshold on each one? start strong then reduce it as the chain goes on? just have the same 1176 preset copied 4 times? what is the answer? are there answers?

>>129362764
*Four compressors

>>129362782
Yes, each of those compressors behaves differently by design. Do what you want but I'd vary the attacks and releases, probably leaving the limiter to get the peaks the end of the chain

https://voca.ro/1mz9MaNAg9Ey lmk what yall . i havent mixed on monitors yet so idk how it will sound on anything but headphones. I left the lower bands of the ambient portion in the main part of the song just because i feel like it adds a little bit of texture to the bass but lmk if it sounds unintentional/ crappy. thank you :)

Is there a free course I can get started with on making music or should I just dive right into a DAW?

>>129362782
experiment and think logically about it

i do big compressions and it varies.
if im using using heavy character compression early in the chain then its usually followed by something more subtle/moderate for “smoothing” (glue, ssl what have you here if available) and then subtle limiting if any at the end (usually but not always).
sometimes it’s flipped. very often there is manual volume editing involved (everybody serious does this; in the rock world this would be all the bitch work including editing mistakes, comping etc) *before* the big compression (again: logically you don’t want to bring up your noise floor, string squeaks, breaths etc) (again *usually* eg if you’re going for a typical clean sound). other times it really is just slamming a limiter in one step and done.
source: i’m a pro

>>129362920
What kind of music do you want to make?

>>129363048
Pop/pop-rock, maybe use some synths in the future but I'd like to genre blend.
I'd like to upload real instruments to the DAW instead of relying solely on samples & plugins

>>129363081
>upload
Record o.O
This is probably your guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMg4Y4q6FQ0

>>129363081
i dont consider pop a genre, synth rock yeah you can make it. piano melody + guitar melody matches very well. You can even do harmony with those 2 instruments they cross over. You can also do piano bass lines with the bass guitar and harmony too, just not if they are chords because the bass guitar sucks at chording, the sound is just not that clean. I guess you can do it virtually. Anyhow you get what i mean. Most of the notes in a guitar are in a piano, vice-versa, etc. You can make amazing things with that idea of making synth-rock and many have already done so. Jazz Fusion bands and Prog Rock bands.

came here to say that rap is music and it's funny that it makes you seethe. know what's not music? country. country is universally reviled by anyone with a hint of taste. if you like country, your taste is most definitely shit.

>>129363312
>chuddy setting up his own arguments to samefag
kys

>>129363312
I dont like modern country either but at least they play instruments unlike rap
The only country i like is oldhead classic stuff like Hank

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rend slaughter devour ahh(hhhh)
something about it ...,,,

https://vocaroo.com/15CasOUYEqPt

>>129363636
<3

>>129363660
u 2

>>129363243
>i dont consider pop a genre
That's kinda why I said it, I like a of different stuff and I want those influences to create something unique but "pop" enough for it to be sonically palatable to normies
>>129363138
I was thinking Ableton or Logic to start

>>129355139
How is it better?

>>129363387
He's samefaggin himself? May as well slip into AI chatbot friend at that point

>>129360664
Thanks??? I don't think theres any silence in there. Was looking for some honest criticism but I forgot you HAVE to be an edgelord to post on 4chan, right?

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>finished my techno song
>the music visualizer video
>started writing a new song right away
>mfw
Things are going well.

>>129362920
It's like painting, man. Jump in a daw or several and start filling in the blanks. There's no wrong way about it and watching someone else do it isn't going to make your music. I do recommend checking out videos on YouTube as you go along to help familiarize yourself with the new tools at your disposal - that's free. Depending on software, your daw may be a little overwhelming at first.

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>>129354648
>>129354878
>>129355285
>>129361592
https://voca.ro/1fDcCSDfMqAl
took a lot of your advice, even added vocals (albeit they are shit and need to be re-recorded)

>>129364746
I'm >>129354878
I think you overdid the reverb a bit. When adding room reverb, you generally want to feel it but not hear it. If you can "hear" the added reverb, it's too much. I'm also not a fan of panning the guitars further apart, or at least it sounds like you've done more stereo separation. Vocals are probably a placeholder but yeah they need a bit more work still and are far too quiet in the mix - one trick to mix balance for vocals is to have your instruments all going to an instrumental submix, which you can level adjust with your vocal mix.
I don't get why you changed the snare, the replacement snare sounds more like a rimshot and it isn't sitting in the mix right; the old sound was fine IMO it just needed velocity (intensity) variation. The added hi-hats are also distracting and too loud and they don't really fit musically either IMO.

If you can, I'd revert to the previous version and adjust from there after taking a well-needed break to give your ears chance to hear things fresh again, as this new mix is worse overall than the previous you shared. The guitars are now too loud relative to each other and feel like they're fighting in the mix, and the mix sounds strained like it's overcompressed or something.

Keep your levels consistent. The new version is much louder than the previous in spite of it not being a completed yet. I think >>129354648 may have given you bad advice in suggesting a master chain when your core song was still being recorded. Try to maintain consistent gain staging. Don't let the term intimidate you, it basically means keeping volume level of each thing consistent - e.g. if you add a compressor plugin on an instrument, check that the volume level before and after is about the same so you are only hearing the effect it's having. Do not make significant overall volume changes to your mix until the whole song structure is complete as it will significantly cloud your judgement; loudness should come from mastering.

I play guitar and don't want to use a computer after work. What would the essential gear be if I want to record ideas and demos (to maybe polish later). Preferably something that I can program/sequence since I like writing with structure.

>>129365016
The Computer. Just dont use the internet, disconnect form the internet. Turn off your modem duh and work on your Computer.

>>129365199
Nah, I still use the PC for some of my other hobbies, I'm trying to avoid it if I can, also seems dedicated gear is much more tactile and "direct", I'm willing to sacrifice versatility to reduce friction.

>>129365016
Hmm, not a conventional use for it, but maybe the SP404mkii

>>129365565
>I'm willing to sacrifice versatility to reduce friction

NTA but any modern "DAW in a box" solution tends to be exactly that, just a change of user interface but the same behind the scenes where the device is still a computer, just with a different way to navigate.

Take the Akai Force as an example, a lot of its features mirror the Ableton Live functionality, where the only difference is how you would access those functions. so instead of familiarising yourself with the menu system in Ableton Live you'd be learning the menus in Force, and I'd say it's likely that using button combos and navigating sub menus in Force would take longer than reaching the same menu in Live, so you're increasing friction rather than reducing it.

Where the hardware beats the computer based DAW is in minimising distraction, the hardware won't have the browsers and games that a computer has so there's less potential to be diverted from your composing/arranging etc but that's just a discipline thing then, which the hardware will help with if you do have that problem, but just keep in mind that it's still a computer and all you've done by using it is to force (is it appropriately named then?) yourself out of distracting habits, at the cost of increased mental load in remembering how to access everything.

Think I'm gonna treat myself to a new MPC XL, I have yet to complete a song btw.

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This is what being smart with money looks like

>>129366831
Reverb isn't active where I live so I don't know much about it, did you buy them with loans?

>>129366847
Through affirm you can finance stuff monthly. Some things don't have interest and others do so it genuinely does feel smart sometimes when I know I'm keeping a piece of gear.

>>129366831
Wtf r u buying that costs so much

>>129366996
In order
>live 2
>bass guitar
>amp
>pedal
>MPC
I'm returning the MPC and Walmart one isn't music related

>>129366805
I just don't want to spend more time in front of a computer

>>129367035
What amp you get brother? You like it? Also wtf a live 2? A synth?

>>129367090
I got a darkglass combo 500 last year in December. It's definitely a keeper. Its called an akai live 2. It's a workstation basically the upgraded version of the MPC One. I had a live 2 last year and returned it but now I want it back after using an MPC for a bit I miss it.

>>129367111
You play in a band or something? What is the point of having a sequencer or whatever in regards to music production? This is all pretty new to me.
I have an akai mpk mini (I think, it's the red one with the drum buttons and the mini keyboard) and I literally never use it cause I think it's easier to use piano roll and manually track drums. Am I missing out. I make rock music btw

>>129367197
>in a band
Kinda? I jam with my friends in a basement but I usually only have my bass, board and amp then. I make every genre including rock. 404 mk2 is a great sampler and the most useful thing I have. I only really started sampling this year and used the 404 as an interface or to play along to songs when I'm not home. Honestly not 100% on why i got the live 2 again. Had it last summer and I thought it was great. Last year I really dedicated myself to bass and theory so I got rid of it after a month. Now that I'm coming back to producing with a better idea of how songs work i needed more things at my hands quickly than loading up ableton and clicking through a bunch of shit. I can hook up a small midi, my 404 and my bass to the live 2 and make a song without being overly distracted. I started out with a small midi 3 years ago and it just kinda kept going. You can do everything on a laptop with a pirated version of ableton and every vst I have. So I don't need to buy these things but I enjoy hardware

>purchase micro computer for work thinking I'd just use it as a remote access shell
>company gave me a computer instead
>now have a micro computer with only 8gb ram and a 256gb hard drive
That's not going to be enough for music production, is it?

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opinion on picrel? is it good as a drum sequencer to play along real instruments?

>>129367898
What do want a drum machine for?

>>129368310
To play along real instruments

>>129368506
Errybody knows u can do most if not all genres of music with just le daw and vsts so if u ask me about physical objects like workstations just don't worry about it sample the drums of a song u like and ur good to go just worry about making music and if u got the money why not, buy those preset packs but just rrmember to end up makkng music or you will end up being a bitter gearfag worrying about sound fidelity instead of a musician enjoying music with others thats what iys all about yes

>>129367669
U could do chiptune music ehehe le mao

>>129367669
>>129367669
Or u could do like korg and just use it to emulate an instrument/install a vst and use it along a midi keyboard desunedayo.

>>129368506
Do you want realistic drums or does it not matter? Never used what you had in your pic but I went through a few drum machine recently cause my goal was the same as you. I think what you have there would work but I ended up just pirating vsts after going through about 5 or 6 different drum machines. No matter what you pick you'll probably have something that gets the job done. I didnt stick with it because I wanted to carry less gear.

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>>129368627
I want to make Artcore :(

https://vocaroo.com/1fNJBdtef1W7

lmk what u think of the mix critiques welcome. its two songs put together- the first one i've already sent in a previous thread so apologies but the second one is new.

>>129369786
too ambient, needs some ethereal sus4 chords and a melodical bass progression with the left hand

the trick is to actually lower the signal and increase your noise floor for the yyyrrreeeooo000w bass

I've been thinking about how your environment affects your mood/actions/etc. and part of me is considering renting a studio apartment in a high rise downtown that I would just furnish with a bed, desk, cook/table/silverware, and the clothes I need for a week to act as a sort of music studio. I would keep my house in the nearby suburbs because I have grown attached to it and some things in it (that would not fit/would clutter the studio apartment).
Have I gone full retard?

>>129370528
>Have I gone full retard?
no i think you just have too much money

1000% this thinking is on the right track.
you should absolutely be setting up your environment and habits to naturally funnel your energy into making music if you're serious.
the only caution i'd throw out is to make sure there's some type of separation in your work/rest space, or to at least scope out a spot nearby that you could use for breaks so you don't end up doing that in your work-space.

>>129370528
no, no high raise prices are going to lower you mood the fuck out. it is true that environments affect mood more or less or how you think about things. high raise is a fuckin scam.
you are going to be depressed when you cannot pay for it and you will want to jump off the building like Reckful to kill yourself.

Stay at ground level just travel more and sleep better 10 hours minimum. Genuine advice.

>Have I gone full retard?
not yet but seems that you are contemplating it. Just stay where you are learn music theory and walk to the park more often, no matter what happens the sun will keep on shining. Stop being so pessimistic.

>>129370572
>no i think you just have too much money
lol. That's just a byproduct of being forever alone.
I absolutely keep my bedroom only for sleep and often in my area, studio apartments have walls that stop a foot or so short of the ceiling to partition off the sleeping space -- if they don't, I would just get a bookshelf or other type of room divider.
Perhaps I should focus on shuffling the use of the rooms in my house. There is a room for my plants that I only ever enter to water/tend to the plants. My living room hasn't been used at all since my grandmother died a couple years ago (she would visit pretty much every weekend and since she passed I haven't had anyone over).
>>129370581
Rent would only be ~$2k/mo in my area -- it's not like I'm in Chicago or New York.
When I went to college, I had a small apartment in a ~20 story building downtown and could walk everywhere -- it was great. There was this giant super sketchy used book store that had tons of music (cds, cassettes, records, sheet music).
I'm always expanding my music theory knowledge through learning pieces (mainly classical piano, but I also have jazz fake books and other things).
My current home office is just starting to burn me out a bit since I sometimes work from home and it soils the feeling of this space.

>>129370748
>Perhaps I should focus on shuffling the use of the rooms in my house.
sorry about your grandma, but that does sound like a better solution.
if you opt for the apartment you should probably let me stay in it as your live in musical partner though.

>>129370788
Thank you; that was a couple years ago and I have a very strong faith that consciousness is fundamental and nothing is lost.
>let me stay in it
It's cold up here, I don't think you would like it. I'm starting to not like it and I've been here my entire life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBXXzA0GDXk

I make music in my bed.
https://voca.ro/15PgIv80S5TF

https://vocaroo.com/1lqq3sBCj49V
>>129370239
heres what i got :)

>>129370528
It's all more about discipline and even monasticism than environment. Try cutting you internet off until you finish your record. I did that once for 6 months, got a lot done, read a few books but was a nightmare asshole to be around

https://youtu.be/B3o6dhETJTo?si=ufG3W2b_NyDCOQMl

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fuk u anon u think ur anon but ur not xd

https://vocaroo.com/1is8aq4Z0p0b

>slows track by %30 bpms
>sounds has more room to expand the details of each sand
>why does't prod do this?

>>129372027
What do u use to get the percussion to sound like that

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>Includes Ableton Live Intro
ffs Ableton

>>129372103
>like that
idk what you mean but there really isn't anything particular i did aside from bussing the high stuff with the synths and smashing it with compression.

>>129372103
Samples

>>129372153
Cracks your cheeks

>>129372157
>>129372164
ya i pretty much just spam drum loops and synth shots i find on splice

>>129367898
If it's all about playing and sequencing samples, a used MPC One is cheaper.

some day we'll get there
https://vocaroo.com/18sz3RlYUHPw

https://voca.ro/1j42KgQa1Rr7
Please give me feedback about my bass line. My friend gave me this chord progression Am-C-G-Em and I composed this bass line. The goal is that I will play it on my bass at a jam as the foundation so that other people can jam on top of it.

>>129372223
ngl unless everybody else is just beginning i don’t know if you’re ready to back a jam man

>>129372223
Don't listen to the other anon, you can and should jam. Bass can be really simple and still groove hard. Just practice your riff until you can play it smooth, for bass smoothness counts more than complexity. Jamming is great experience and failure is typically welcome it's not like you're on stage playing for money so unless your friends are super uptight jerks about it, join in and don't worry about your level, don't be afraid to push yourself to experiment/improv more and don't be afraid to fail :)

>>129372284
Thats what I do. I organize jams biweekly at my home. I play bass and we have no percussionist and most people have bad rhythm so we usually program a drum machine and it keeps the time. It’s really fun and I feel myself developing a lot. And I like the kind of music we get.

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Ye buddy.
Don't worry.
Don't compare.
Don't expect too fast.
Be kind to yourself.

>>129370528
I didn't really enjoy making music until I was in my apartment vs my mom's house

>I didn't really enjoy making music until i got all my upgrades bro

Yeah man having hardware makes music fun that's how it works

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>>129373790
>got this brand new MPD128
>try to make drums lines for a new song
>wtf is this finger playing
>go back to mouse, keyboard & piano roll
>make a killer beat
I am a mouse & piano roll drum guy. Hardware doesn't help me.

>>129374191
Then you aren't a hardware guy thats fine. Majority of musicians like having hardware though. So it makes sense that someone would probably have more fun with it than without it

>>129374191
me too sometimes i wish i had a aftertouch and velocity sensitive mechanical keyboard.
the new line of hall effect mechanical keyboards is interesting too.

the only hardware that i need is some analog stuff that i can crank up to 11. i really dont care about all of this controller garbage.

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>>129374337
However I can't make synth lines with a thing less than a hardware 49 keybed. So it depends. Making melodies with mouse & roll is agony.
I understand.

>>129351700
sad pop work in progress with vocoder
https://voca.ro/1f23ywbEJq3p
with a random feel good jazz ending which I kinda ripped off off Father John Misty and which I will very likely replace

>>129374566
>https://voca.ro/1f23ywbEJq3p
very nice anon, i dont know john misty and your regular normal person doesn't either so dont worry about it, you created something new from it and it sounds good :]

>>129369786
>https://vocaroo.com/1fNJBdtef1W7
i like n1 most the 2nd takes too much time to get somewhere

>>129364746
>https://voca.ro/1fDcCSDfMqAl
really good now just keep mixing till you added all that u feel it needs and low everything that u feel it shouldn't be the focus of

Any videos that helped you learn how to mix? All I really do now is put VSTs on my sounds and mess with the sample gain.

>>129374849
It's literlly just that, u learn from experience, how much and how to mix in context with others instruments which instrument. but aside from that, that's why everybody says mixing it's so tedious/always learn from it, because every song is different every mix is different, every focus is different (it gets easier if u focus only in 1 genre) All that matters is that in the end you end up liking what you made and if will you listen to it again after a while. If both those things are positive then you made something that you like and that is timeless

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https://vocaroo.com/1caOABbKsYT
bum bum not music

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>>129375972
oopsie
https://vocaroo.com/1caOABbKsYTR

>>129375977
good jam

I like prog rock and metal but I have no friends no instruments just a daw. What is the Opeth of electronic music? I guess IDM?

>>129376243
Dark ambient

https://voca.ro/14auOtfvpNeJ
I can KINDA fucking make music. I kinda hate this guitar tone. It isnt what I usually use.

>>129376573
New toen, still not what I use but I like it.
https://voca.ro/1i91v0TjmUF

>>129377033
>Vocaroo expired or deleted
Anon...come on... I was looking forward to making fun of your guitar tone

>>129351700
is it okay to put netron elemets on your master
pls answer

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>>129377804
andrew scheps puts 30 % reverb on his master

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=998AYuhHVc4&list=RD998AYuhHVc4&start_radio=1&pp=ygULZnVja2VkIEdvZCCgBwE%3D
Is there any possible way to sample the sax from this song?

>>129377601
Its peak, sorry to say.
https://voca.ro/1i91v0TjrnUF

>>129362315
>automate trouble areas
good advice. never thought of that. thanks anon. pain in the ass but it's sounding a lot better
>de-ess much more than you think
how? through EQ?

feeling very stupid about using saturn foldback over saturator sinoid in lieu of massive sine shaper idk why it never occurred to me that it's the same thing what a dumb stupid idiot

feeling very stupid about linear eq preringing fucking my low frequency transients/punch

>>129379012
get the tone right so you don't have to or just print and re-assemble dumb noob

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I still use fl studio 11

>>129379055
poor summer child

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>>129379091
I know it like the back of my hand. I refuse to use anything else. Plus the skeuomorphic ui is nostalgic.

>>129379055
ableton 11 to death for me

>>129379044
I WILL NEVER USE LINEAR PHASE EQ IN MY LIVE AGAIN YOU LIED TO ME

>>129379146
nooo yuo have to upgrade for the features

>>129379167
i ruined my life demo'ing 12 and really liked the effects and that one synth actually but realistically speaking none of those things or the other new features are 1000% NOT bottle-necking me at all.
like upgrading the daw is not even top 10 or even 50 probably on the list of things i can change to improve my music.
also it just feels weird as fuck so i don't wanna use it

>>129379164
?

there are certain situations where linear eq is actually very audibly way better tho.
if you cannot tell it is probably not the biggest factor to overlook howevere

>>129379194
i really only use ableton to arrange, mix and master, but it felt like the better thing to future proof me to upgrade when i was migrating from my old pc
its been hell
mostly not abletons fault, vst stuff is just a pain
if it works dont fuck with it

>>129379256
>future proof
fuck you namefag but that's another reason to bounce everything down

>>129379275
bouncing as stems is okay to get a snapshot of your process, good luck trying to alter anything afterwards, ive just accepted that anything i want to finish has to be on the old pc and new projects happens once im done with that

>>129379313
well it helps if you bounce as you go in steps and don't just try to get it all fully processed in one round

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i wanna FUCK my stock fx https://vocaroo.com/1ebBvsA2381Z

>>129379347
its shit

>>129379347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBQ2305fLeA

>>129379329
yeah absolutely, you can do a lot with stems, and i wish id been better at it in the past, its just a whole other level of reconstruction trying to tame a stem than just going into the project and turning down little plate half a second

>>129379358
no you're wrong it's good actually

>>129379361
i like the videos where the bassist is crashing out about people throwing stuff and more than the fairy xd xd

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>>129364746
Can you do a Synth Piano harmony along the Guitar during the Solo? I like it but it's not lifting my soul yet.

Keys + Guitar harmonize super well you should try it more often. I'm guessing you aint that good with keys yet probably. Well if you ain't then git gud. Literally if you play the same or similar notes at the same time along the guitar you can make something beautiful.

Where do you discover newly released free plugins?

>>129379777
become a chronic youtube watcher

my secret to epic basses is guitar rig 5 btw

>>129351700
Little song

https://voca.ro/19kvwbiGXqhq

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>>129378418
You can use a de-Esser plugin /preset (maybe fab-filter or multiband compress only say 2.5khz upward.

Yes volume automate is the best way but takes the most fiddling. Picture has it done on top track there - a Lilly Allen song.

https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/secrets-mix-engineers-greg-kurstin

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>>129364944
>Update
https://voca.ro/17Qv3rYhcA9k
what else should i fix. the vocals are going to be redone

>>129363733
So I've just messed around with it and holy fuck the organization is so much worse. For no reason you can't select sounds by genre(it's just greyed out) so this leads you to use their AI descriptor. Now, there's a lot sounds along with the Omnisphere 2 library but the organizationsucks dick.

>>129382385
Why select a sound by genre, just do the star rating favourite thing.

>>129375874
https://vocaroo.com/1nF2QZZOktTS

>>129379275
>fuck you namefag
that's a tripfag, newfag, which is an extra level of faggotry above a namefag. filter it and move on.

>>129382848
>trannysplaining the anime forum
dilate nerd nobody cares

>>129382911
Just woke up
I had a dream that some zetsy black dude was getting raped over a black monolith structure then he gets up and starts kissing me and it tickled. What a weird nigga.

>>129351700
>Rap is not music
kys boomer. Rock is garbage

>>129381705
Hell yes anon

LOL at Fender Studio 8

>>129381837
mix-wise it feels better overall (kick is too much tho), but I don't understand why you changed the kick and snare so much?
I prefer the drums from this version >>129353690, it's like you switched to a completely different snare sound for some reason. The problem initially was never the sound of the snare, just the lack of variation from it IMO.

Having said this, I really like the addition of a synth, and it's used very tastefully in the song arrangement, I also like what you've done with the lead guitar in the mix. 3:13 onward sounds really good. Keep going anon you'll get there

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>>129383090
Rock is mid, Rap is garbage. At least in Rock you learn somewhat what musical structure is. You dont have to but you need to if you want to succeed. Otherwise you stay at punk slop level forever.

A rocker can successfully mix up other generes as they learn more instruments and music production. Almost all great producers atm that produce even for pop slop celebs have a rock or metal background to them.

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Hardware sequencer chads rise up and DEFEAT the soulless DAW menace.

>>129385312
Wow cool stuff, what did you pay for that FS1r and how is it?

>>129385431
It's the only thing I paid much money for, it was like $1600. It's great. There are new tools for processing .wav files into patches, so you can upload new voice patches to the thing. It does a pretty good job. It was a direct upgrade from my TX-81z that I used to have racked in the same spot. In fact it's compatible with any TX-81z patch, DX7 patches too. Sounds a bit different maybe? But not worse for sure.

Despite what people say it's fairly easy to program, if you know how to program FM synths. Even from the front panel. It just takes a while. A knob box helps a lot, the MPC has the TRACK EDIT mode which is confusingly named, because it actually brings you to a bunch of pages of screens where you can send out MIDI CC's.

The EX5R is also one of my favorites. You have everything jammed into that thing, you can even do 2-op FM with the FDSP synthesis mode. Physical modeling, sampling, ROMpler, virtual analog. It's a studio in a box, still to this day there's nothing entirely like it.

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Visiting Russia right now and just got a Polivoks to bring back home.

>>129377926
>https://voca.ro/1i91v0TjrnUF
very animeish but if i don't think about that then it's a really happy good going song

>>129381837
good

it's like buying expensive vsts but without buying https://4download.net/1746-arturia-fx-collection-win.html also is it just me or the word vsts sounds like a sexual transmission disease like stds hehe i got the vsts broo

https://galileoandeinstein.phys.virginia.edu/more_stuff/Applets/SoundWave/soundwave.html

>>129386078
can you at least tell us what this is before i go into the link (that im going to check with a link checker first)

>>129386146
no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_scale

MPC or Macbook?

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>>129386214
tube saturation > all of that stupid dogshit people here care about

ANALOG WARMTH FOR LE REAPER https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KCUyt9oEUKaUJTV19JM0JHeXM/edit?resourcekey=0-MC5Sw9Y_OsU60YCft8gPaQ

>>129386214
What kind of MPC? I mean its a workstation vs a computer 2 very different things.

>>129387323
What's with people calling MPC's workstations these days? Workstation already has a definition within this world of electronic instruments.

>>129387388
Akai calls them workstations

https://vocaroo.com/19HqURisVvF7

If I don't have much interest in editing sounds that much should I go with a synth or a MIDI?
I only intend to really be using the synth/MIDI for texture rather than the main part of the song

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>>129388722
you dont need to buy anything to have a synth drone in your track
but a moog one wouldnt be a bad thing to have.

If someone asked you to play a full song on your instrument would you be able to do it?

>>129389522
wtf kind of fuck ass question is that

>a MIDI
MIDI is a protocol
REEEEEEE

>>129389593
it's gotten to the point where i just tell myself everybody in the thread is pretending to be stupid so just ignore it desu

Waut, you guys actually put stereo imaging plugins on your mixes/masters...?

What is the best pipe organ VST/Thing i can play with my midi keyboard

>>129389761
no i make my sounds wide to start with and use m/s eq as needed because i'm not a stupid idiot baka who tries to dump all the icing on at the last step

>>129389522
No, and I'm not ashamed of it I dont plan to ever play live.

>>129389785
organteq

new mic arrived
https://vocaroo.com/124idTBbCVBI

>>129389111
>you dont need to buy anything to have a synth drone in your track
I like physical stuff, makes it more engaging and easier to work with IMO
I play guitar, if I was going to make a song only using software I'd lose interest in 10 minutes

>>129389593
>a MIDI
>a MIDI controller
Nigger it's not hard to understand what he meant.

https://vocaroo.com/17aVbQ6ZSsbQ

>indie
>ariel pink

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https://streamable.com/499e7b

Thoughts on using AI to tone-match and dynamics-match your tracks to popular and acclaimed tracks? Might be a /prod/ hack.

>>129390300
kys

>>129389522
Yes I can play 60 or so songs on my bass

i love my bandmates but i really hope they write some songs too hahaa or at least fkn respond to my messages in the group chat and stop leaving practice early to see their gf. i do love those niggas but i just wish they would lock in. we’re not trying to make it big we’re just trying to make a GOOD ALBUM

>>129390300
>ap mastering
kino, makes audiophile prodtroons seethe and shriek until their hair falls out

>>129390473
everything about this screams it's going to be dogshit

>become a producer
>be mediocre
>get a gf
>gf dies (od, alcohol, car crash, whatever)
>make a track about dead gf
>profit
How many times has this happened? I know of at least two off the top of my head

>>129390473
been there. band didn't go anywhere. get rid of them if you're serious and they're not.

https://voca.ro/17aVbQ6ZSsbQ

>>129390614
is this a project for my dog ? press normalize. this makes it as loud as the loudest peak yada yada yada

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>>129390614
I like it, however more piano + guitar harmony pls
it can be chords or a part where it follow the same melody as the guitar, the same arpeggios

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Oblique Strategy told me to just finish the fucking song already

>>129390844
every card i pull says to just make it sound better and more professional fuck this rng

Ableton 12.4 beta. 13 when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSNxUsX2K9s
The chorus demo in this video gives me strong NAMCO Sound Team vibes.

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>>129390844
>not using Tarot
Pleb, you will never Magick.
Music is literally the Magickan Art I'm not even kidding look up how much is music related to magic spells and lore and witchcraft its a fuck ton. It's the most magically charged art.

>>129390876
I've been getting some good ones lately
>>129390903
Okay, I'll look into that instead of finishing the song

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>>129390913
Finish the song, its important to finish your spell. It only works if its not rap slop tho, there is no magic in rhythm, only in melody. Notes have a color and a magic and they do different things.

ask >>>/x/ at /div/ to get your fortune. Whatever you get the song must kinda reflect that mood in it's sections.

A section, B section, C section. Ask for a 3 card tarot fate.
Death, Tower, Devil are the most interesting fates but also the most dangerous beware. You been warned.

btw always tell the Tarot Reader the full context even the things that bother you and that you like about what you are doing currently in relation to the subject matter otherwise he wont know how to channel the magic or understand what anything really means and you will get an imprecise read.

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most importantly music and magic share initiation. if you have not yet been initiated let me initate you directly from the lineage of my piano teacher.
>hits your fingers
here, now you are in the club.

>>129390943
I'm too high can I do it tomorrow or will I have failed my magick spell by then?

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>>129391020
w8 for tomorrow because the /div/ thread is kinda filled up and on auto-sage. But make no mistake music IS magic and must be taken seriously.

>moron posts triangles saying there is no importance in symmetric structures
holy DENSE
start with the greeks

https://vocaroo.com/1a6HcwWJ7SsY
>ambient dnb type stuff
>wip
>not too sure about lead at the end

>>129391566
the pad is fucking awful

https://voca.ro/12srrBfOiqWm
learning how to make kicks and snares with serum. anyone else like drum n bass?

>>129391566
your synths sound like they’re in front of the drums
to fix this: make your drums louder, make sure they have lots of top end especially 9k and up , sidechain (or even mute ) when the main snare hits

>>129391792
will give that a try, thx for the feedback!

I will never understand people who program their drums by dragging individual hits onto the timeline.
>muh exact transient location
>muh fades
Just use midi data driving a drum rack like God intended.

>>129391855
>trying the epic pwn with "i dont understand"
retards lack understanding, that much is known.

>>129389959
think you might wanna send it back, sounds like it's got some loose wiring.

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>>129391855
i just upload a boots n catttzzzzz booots n cathzzzz tpye beat and copy paste all along the song and never change it

>>129391855
I do the midi thing but then I bounce and razor it so I can still get the transients in the right location

my doogs in catz percussion has shit load of alternating fades and start/end position changes even with one shots across every track

that's how pros get that pro sound and what people who actually make the splice loops do baka

that's why

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>>129392776
>boots n catttzzzzz
>>129392786
>doogs in catz
owls and sealz type beats for me.

>>129391855
I dont like working with midi with drums. It's more fun to cut up something on my timeline

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Writing is agonizing sometimes till it clicks.
You try ideas that don't fit, sound bad or are goofy sounds. The whole thing feels so fragile, ready to fall apart with one wrong sound/melody choice.

why do people who go to music school seethe so hard at self taught , “casual” songwriters?

>>129393643
Because they went to school for it so they must be better than you since the internet doesn't exist & you don't have ears (they also can't get a job)

>>129351700
https://voca.ro/1fd5v6OfTFDR
Boss music I'm working on for a game
Metal/baroque
Kind of a mess still but fun right?

>>129387388
What is a workstation then?

>>129374566
New version of this
https://voca.ro/1gU95UcJ2dMW
Now with a Bon Iver style intro, different drums at the end

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>>129393643
Nobody does this. The self taught plebs often dont really make good music tho. However Its possible to git gud self taught nowadays because there is a lot of music theory yt channels, this was not possible 20 years ago.
>inb4 pop, rap
Not music. Lmao.

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>>129394879
they are making movies about this, "the learned professional has strong resentment towards the naturally gifted and highly talented"
shut up. rap and pop are not that important that you have to bring it up 24/7.

stop larping as musical police officer telling me what i can do and what i can't do.
>>129394653
it lacks a bit of depth due to the absence of highs.

>live 2 supposed to come by 3:45
>not even out for delivery yet
Kill me. I wanted it before work.

>>129395280
maybe because its mass produced trash that its annoying and hard to avoid? and it is mass producible because it is lazier and takes less effort.

>>129395369
>easy to sing like mariah carey
ok. case is closed, i have nothing to say to you anymore.
pop music = vocal talent.

>>129395554
>mariah carey
Im going to concede some can sing good sure.

I mean instrumentally normie cattle slop music aint shit. It's disgusting and it's not music.

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>>129395651
who cares about instrumentals. no one cares about instrumentals.
people care about music.
you are not a good debater. i would destroy you in any debate.
now i am getting tired of this, i will now listen to edda moser.
you know way less than you think you do, start with the greeks.

seriously if you dont see how the modern odysee finds it reprenstation in return of the mack you are just lost.

only the greeks can save you. rhythmos and theos and logos. atmosphere
all the same sounding.
people who attack rhythm are so fucking retarded i cant take this anymore.

pop is one of the most if not the most competitive genres and thinking anything they do is "easy" is wrong, it is just simple but that is not easy.
now go show me how you can cook an omlette.

>>129395284
It's definitely just not coming today. No update on ups website

>>129396635
The guy never sent it. I'm going to cancel and try and get the live 3

>>129351700
where do you get the firmware for the jp8080 emulator? Everywhere I go says "we cant give it to you BUT..."

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Should i learn reaper if I just wanna record guitar, bass, vocals and drums?

>>129396876
roland website
https://dbwbp.com/index.php/9-misc/37-synth-eprom-dumps

>>129395770
GTFO this site idiot

>>129397312
downvoted oh no

Hey, can anyone say what genre can this be defined as? All I can say is this is "electronic" music

https://voca.ro/1o2PYgLgpI0A

>>129392761
its perfect actually because it was a second sm57 so i can record my melodica in stereo

>>129397487
in a life and death situation i would say chiptune but then i would get shot and it was synthwave.

just realized that field recordings are the purest form of electronic music
>>129397487
indietronica

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But can someone tell ME what genre THIS is? Electro House? (Don't bully my mixing skills I'm still new)

https://vocaroo.com/199ZaClj13oo

>>129397984
https://musicmap.info/
read the article about your genre. 30 second bits of nothingness are dj tools.

>>129398362
I'll check it out. I was just seeing if any anons could give me a concrete answer. I've done my own research and haven't been able to pin it down myself. I've actually been meaning to go through Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music, but that's gonna take a few days. I'm not really interested in trying to find a microgenre to adhere to, more seeing if what I'm going for has been exhausted already

https://music.ishkur.com/

>>129397074
Yeah, it's probably the least expensive daw if all you need is multitrack recording and audio editing. Think of it like Pro Tools before they got greedy.

>>129398362
>breakbeat is white rap
>jungle is black dance music
Bruh.

>>129398605
all dance music is black music. blues. jazz. hip-hop/rap.

deal with it.
>sunglasses.gif

>>129398676
Waltz?

>>129398702
i’m going to take a wild guess and say that’s descendent of the european tradition

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enya is her own genre.

>>129398676
but edm is german doe?!?

>>129398994
literally wrong it was appropriated learn your history pleb

not rage bait btw trust me

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gibs ideal recording setup for geetar

>>129398994
no EDM was such an insult for germans we even came up with a defensive term to isolate ourselves but it never took off because it is even worse.
we came up with electronic body music ._.

as german EDM is such an insult, i dont know why but it just is. pls dont call anything i do EDM.

>>129399229
i'm gonna do it even harder now

>>129399206
you need to be more specific you dont even say if iti s electric or acoustic.

stop vagueposting when you want to receive help.
there are studies about this. if you need help you need to provide details and context otherwise no one cares.

>>129398994
Derived from Detroit Techno

>>129399667
Detroit techno came before Kraftverk?

>>129399778
I dont remember the details, I remember reading this a while back though
https://archive.is/20250124035939/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-battle-over-technos-origins

>>129399229
Electronic Dance Music is the most German name possible

>>129400014
nta but that was a good read. thanks

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>>129400040
no 3 letter stuff is very american. fbi, cia, cnn, bbc, bbq.
should i continue? we dont do that in german.

in german we have ELEKTRONISCHE DATEN VERARBEITUNG and that is EDV and that is way too close to EDM and that has nothing to do with each other.

it is also a stretch to call it "dancing"...
then it is also simply wrong because like voltaire said use a word only if
>it sounds good
>it is easy to understand
>it is needed
EDM ticks none of the boxes.
is like i now call rock and blues and metal all just EGM. electronic guitar music.
retarded as fuck.

>>129400338
>electronic guitar music
you literally just shifted to “what it’s made with” rather than form or function

honestly i never understood the gripe with the term EDM- i’ve always understood it t be a catch all term that’s slightly more specific than just “electronic music” but just as broad as “rock.”

>>129400389
because good electronic music is not the american festival slop bullshit but all comes from specific clubs and is very local.
EDM is the pure globohomo terminology. it completely removes location.

99% of electronic dance music is specific to the location. ibiza, berlin, detroit, goa.
like it is all very much coming from a specific club culture and then takes off.

>>129400455
I wish I could go to clubs and learn my local genre

>>129400455
>globohomo
just start out with this in your initial posts so people know not to engage with you in a serious way dude jeez

>>129400455
>american festival slop
The craziest one is in Germany. When I first learned about Parookaville, I thought it was all AI generated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjZs8Do2HgQ

>>129400637
am i cooked or just a normie if i actually didn't hate a couple tracks in there

>>129400492
likely its some type of indie rock

>>129400492
should have a soundcloud where you can listen to stuff.

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>>129400497
well i am not going to call it cosmopolitan because that isnt what it is.

I know about audz.dwnld, but when those links are dead where do you go? Is it just audionews and rutracker?

>>129397487
soundtrack for a video game that doesn't exist. that wind-like noise makes me think some cliff-top section in a JRPG.

>>129401604
reminds me of betus blues from meat boy