is /mu/ a pro- or anti- Devin board?
>>129377840antit. /mu/ - the music board
>>129377840never heard of this guy, is he as good a guitarist as having what is probably his own signature Kiesel makes me assume he is?
>>129377952i looked him up, yeah he plays exactly like i thought he would, it could not be closer.
Hes p goodhttps://youtu.be/NLG8B-N_gwI
soulless but talentedmusic isn't math or science
>>129377983not gonna listen to you shill your uncles facebook music lol
>>129377840I like his country project.
we already have a fantano thread up
pro. even tho he's reddit, he's actually sincerely nice and quirky. his act never seems tryhard. not all of his albums are great, but there's always at least one nugget of gold in there.empath is his greatest album.
He’s an interesting character but his music is just terrible, as much as I want to like it
>>129378719my thoughts exactly. I wanted to like this album but just couldnt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH49UtRZWKo
his shit gets annoying real fasteven in the middle of the song you go from 'this is fuckin rad' to 'this is fucking annoying'
>>129378719>>129378901this
>>129377840ocean machine is his only good album
>>129377840I dig him. Some really good stuff, though his albums can be inconsistant. Seeing him live is fantastic. Everyone should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrDM6V08wcE
>>129377840pro-ish, I've only ever listened to ocean machine and SYL albums THOUGH
>>129379353What about City?
>>129377840talented guy but he lost the plot around Deconstruction's release in 2011he should probably quit making music and just produce music for a living
>>129377952Interesting: that is on a Alan Holdsworth body. I guess he's not using them anymore.
>>129379475I saw him live last year. What about you faggot?
>>129380567Man I remember when deconstruction was supposed to be his BIG Devin Townsend project album but then it turned out to be just pure shit. Addicted is the only decent album from him around that timeBut really only ocean machine is worth listening nowadays
Has further disappeared up his own ass the last 10 years or so but a lot of great music to be found in his huge discography and I'm still a big fan. I really like his ambient work. Wears dresses on stage, has talked about how he doesn't feel male or female at times and has admitted that he and his wife sleep in separate beds and that he regularly sees a "sex therapist" so he's most likely going to troon out soon, sadly.
Personally I'm looking forward to Casualties 2
>>129377840I'll always respect that guy for his likeable personality and consistent music career. However, I have never listened to more than 20 seconds of any of his music, and I'm not interested in listening more. One megafan of him I met once at a concert, he even has the luxury of a very tasteful fanbase, still doesn't make me want to listen to his music.Very good guy, totally uninteresting if you don't catch "the thing".
>>129387145You should listen to ocean machine, especially the last 3 songs. Its pure musical talent from a genius before he got quirky, depressed, mentally ill and reddit
>>129377840is it weird to not care much for his music but be glad that he exists? he's keeping something rare alive
>>129377840HOW LONG CAN THIS LIFE GO ON
Funeral might still be my favorite song of all time, it was for a very long time. I don't even think about Devy any more but its not like I've heard greater songs since
>>129377840I love him but don't care for most of his new albums, Addicted was probably his last great one
>>129384093Terria is his best album though
Remember when he produced an album for Soilwork?
Post that Pic with a phone up his ass
ocean machine is my favorite album of all time
also I would pay an irresponsible amount of money for a re-release of ziltoid with real drums. the songs are really good but I can't stand that shitty vst drum sound.
>>129387596Is there really anthing to Ziltoid besides solar winds? Thats the one actually good song
His most underrated album
>>129387634does your copy not have by your command and the greys?
Devin really is an artist where you should just listen to live studio albums over the studio ones, his live version of Ziltoid 2 is way better than the original
>>129387650TRUE
>>129387685And his greatest ever live performance is playing funeral, bastard and death of music live. Its not a coincidence ocean machine is GOATed
He's got a lot of albums and they aren't all good but some of them are really good and those are generally:Ocean Machine (Biomech)Accelerated Evolution(SYL) City(SYL) Alien(and Ziltoid if you can take a healthy amount of ZANY humor)A lot of people also seem to really like Empath. I personally like Sky Blue and Ki as well, but your mileage might vary with those.
>>129387823What do you think of Terria and Infinity?
>superb tierOcean Machine, Terria>worth it tierAccelerated Evolution, SynchestraDont bother with the rest
Underrated debut album
>>129387823>>129387903>really goodocean machine, ki, city (syl), heavy as a really heavy thing (syl)>pretty goodterria, ziltoid 1, alien (syl), addicted, ghost>not bad if you're a fansyl s/t, deconstruction, synchestra>one or two good songssky blue, accelerated evolution, infinity>what the fuck is this shitziltoid 2, empath, epicloud, devlabI haven't heard the others
Am I the only one who liked Powernerd?
>>129388930Some songs were good. Most were forgettable. Nothing was offensively bad
https://youtu.be/nubJjB95VdY?si=wOV3CCyabmhw7scu
>>129377840very talented and seems like a sweetheart irl
>>129387200he seems genuine and also a cool guy but damn this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n7uvokARQ4 is a big turn-off. from listening to his other stuff, his production is also bloated as hell.
>>129389759What's wrong with Genesis? I'm not the biggest Devin fan (only know Terria, Ziltoid, and Empath like the back of my hand and have dabbled in a few others), but Genesis sounds like a pretty right down the middle type of Devy song.
>>129390910>What's wrong with Genesis?they fell off after Lamb
No Skullet No Talent Also saw him live 2 years ago and holy fuck was the crowd the biggest cringe fest losers I've ever seen
>>129387650I actually think Lightwork is his most underrated album. It's never talked about even by fans probably because it was overshadowed by Empath which came before it and heavily marketed as his magnum opus. I thought Empath leaned into the whole "I can do so many genres isn't that interesting?" thing too much and sounded unintentionally comical but Lightwork is a much more consistent and cohesive album that I enjoy a lot more than Empath.
>>129391369Did you see them on the Dream Theater/AAL tour? You want to talk about the crowd being cringe, how about fucking Dream Theater? I was laughing at them for the 15-20 minutes I stayed to watch their set. I'm not a Townsend fan by any means, but he absolutely shit on LaBrie. It was embarrassing as fuck watching that band try on stage.
>>129391369I saw him around 8 years ago and the crowd was fine
>>129392426Why did you see Dream Theater?
>>129392407Shame that Honeybunch was jettisoned from the album, would've been nice to hear a fully produced version
>>129392426I saw him open for Dream Theater (no AaL) and Devin gave the audience the "weirdest vibe award".>>129392407Nightwork is great too.
>>129377840Indifferent. I appreciate that Anneke van Giersbergen worked with him, but the man's music always bored the shit out of me. He's good at what he does. I just wish any of it moved me.
>>129392426>>129393938Weird. I have been to DT concerts and DT concerts. The vibe was maybe a little bit younger, female, and weirder with more numales and tranny-adjacent shitters at the Devin Townsend show, but the crowds were essentially the same. I saw the recent(ish) Scenes from a Memory tour and the D/T tour, and Powernerd.
>>129377840I am pro Devin I remember being like 16 and hearing SYL for the first time and loving it.My mother also taught his son in high school.I also used to buy greenage in a place in Vancouver that had one of SYL’s amps sitting at the end of a hall.
>>129377840He’s pretty bipolar and it comes out in his music a lot. He started out pulling lead singer duties for Steve Vai then eventually branched out to do his own thing. Very eclectic career and people writing him off immediately would do well to listen through some of his catalog as there’s likely something that will appeal to anyone. His maximalist wall of sound production approach bites him in the ass more times than I would like, but his composition and harmony work is pretty top tier, especially considering how barren metal usually is in those arenas.
>>129378719Filtered tastelet
>>129387650It’s a shame that for such a great album it sounds like a fisher price toy coming through a tin can speaker no matter what you put it through to listen.
>>129377840used to be pro but I found out he's a liberal so now it's anti
>>129388930I had fun
>>129394437That's what tastelets do. Separate the art from the artist he never gets political in the music itself
>>129387650Wasn't it supposed to be a SYL album?
>>129394437I haven't ever seen him talk about politics
>>129394437are you like the right wing equivalent of those anarchist trannies who immediately cut off a black metal band the moment they find out they once played at some NS festival? kek you sound like a fragile faggot
I don't think he gets enough credit for being an innovator. like, who else makes music that sounds like this? https://youtu.be/DA4igUGBbdM?si=-g_nMk3cbf_JdT67he gets tagged simply as "progressive metal" everywhere but I think that's a very low resolution description of what he does. it's more like post-metal or something: https://youtu.be/tJz-L3SbrLE?si=LXlNAmT6QIU-cAXh
>>129394794He's master of wall of sound, some of his songs sound like shoegaze metal
>>129394852totally, and he should be getting credit for that instead of deftones, who have fuck-all to do with metal, and not all that much to do with shoegaze.
As a person, I think he seems like a neat, thoughtful and usually sincere guy. I've seen some of his interviews and he's definitely more interesting to listen to than the average metalhead, both in terms of music and non-musical discussions.As a musician, I think he's alright. Some of his albums speak to me, but most of them just seem too theatrical, overemoted or otherwise contrived for my tastes. I respect that he makes the kind of music that he wants to make, but it usually isn't for me. I think Ziltoid, Ghost, Terria and Empath are great albums, and he's pretty damn prolific so I'm probably forgetting a couple others I also enjoyed. The Casualties of Cool album was also neat. Everything else is very "take it or leave it" for me.Props for being one of the few actually good singers in prog rock/metal, though.
>>129396117>one of the few actually good singers in prog rock/metalFrontmen of Opeth, Symhpony X, Fates Warning, Leprous, Pain of Salvation and Haken are great though
devin's easily a top 5 rock singer, any genre. top 3 if you ask me.
>>129396168opeth's singer isn't very impressive when only looking at cleans, he has such limited range and not the best control/articulation. he's just a notable anomaly for having good growls and okay cleans all in once body
>>129396200*all in one body
>>129396200How many other singers are good at both harsh and clean vocals? There's Mikael Stanne from Dark Tranquility and that guy from Scar Symmetry
>>129396430Dan Swano
>>129396430Bjorn "Speed" Strid
Just found out he did guitar on this album. Great 90s metal/industrial.
>>129396168most of these guys are mid at fucking best
>>129397394Who do you consider better vocalists in metal?
>>129378010uhm anon music IS math
>>129397414Steve Grimmett
>>129394852>>129394889A fair chunk of Ocean Machine feels akin to shoegaze imo, specifically Voices in the Fan and Funeral. I think the fact that his vocals are mixed comparatively low on that record enhances the effect too
>>129397518That whole album really sounds uplifting compared to most other metal without going into power metal cheese
>>129377840He's decent
>>129397518shoegays
shoo-gaw-zee
>>129397304cool; I'll check it out
>>129377840He's super-talented, great singer that can do any kind of rock/metal well, great writer, always evolving as an artist...HOWEVER.... most of his music has a bit of a 'cringe factor' to it. I can't explain it, but I know I'm right. This is why he wasn't bigger despite being one of the most talented rock/metal guys in the 00's. Something about his work often gives off the ick, despite being objectively quite good.
>>129392426>Did you see them on the Dream Theater/AAL tour?No but funny you should mention that, I'm seeing DT on Sat on Valentines day of all days, it's going to be a laugh riot (I just need to tick it off the list as I'm not really a fan but my Dad likes technical guitar players, I'm going to be stoned out of my mind regardless)
I was obsessed with Synchestra 19 years ago
>>129377840He's smart. He knows he's smart. He tries to act like he's not. But he's too smart for the GP. Not in like he's a genius or genius musician, more like he tells an inside joke hoping everyone would get it but no one does. Also cringy. The music is a mixed bag but even if you look at this thread people call different albums essential. I like a lot of it and feel indifferent towards the rest, can't say I really dislike anything he did.
Can we all agree that Powernerd was the most forgettable album of all time
>>129398644im guessing it's the theatre kid aspect im always hearing people complain about
>>129398725>can't say I really dislike anything he did.oh I can kek
>>129399096That's it. He has "anime table at the highschool cafeteria" energy. If he was just a little cooler he would have been as big as Linkin Park or Slipknot, I think.
i wish ziltoid had real drums
>>129398790No that's his ambient albums
>>129377840Everything up to Synchestra is pretty damn good, including SYL
>>129377840Neutral. Devin has an incredible voice and his guitar tone is immaculate. Strapping Young Lad were better than his solo work. For all the good, there is bad. Playing open tunings so the fingerings don't change is cheating. He's not a good guitarist, but Alien and City are undeniably great. His personality is annoying or snobbish without much in between. His music feels almost pompous, like he's trying too hard to be progressive. It's pretty simple stuff when you really analyze it.>>129379353I like City and Alien.
>>129379475undeniably talented.
>>129397498Literally who
After mid 2010s I lost track of his output, also you can truly tell he isn't that much into metal anymore
>>129401657Me too
>>129405393i feel that happens often when metal musicians reach 40
>>129405892i still have 50yo friends who's metal only and only. it doesn't help that they play thrash also
>>129377840he seems like a metal version of frank zappa to mevery creative and talented but doesn't have good taste
>>129405928i know those types too, they only listen to metal so they stay musically stunted. guys like townsend or akerfeldtt listen to shit like enya and magma, so over time they slowly drift away
>>129404417>>129397414
>>129402881>Playing open tunings so the fingerings don't change is cheating.doesn't play guitar award
He seems to finally be moving on from his "put a choir in everything" phase, and looks to be slowly turning a corner, so I'm excited for his future output.>>129405951Funny because that's pretty much why Devin doesn't like Zappa
>>129377840This man is extremely unpleasant to look at.
His best from the 90's was Ocean Machine and City.From the post-SYL era, I'd say Addicted -tho I haven't heard everything he's put out since, so I am a bit biased. I love the writing and the production on Addicted - I wish his later stuff would sound like that
>>129377983Didn't realize Casualties of Cool had Devin Townsend in it.. Just found them like a month ago and they're already one of my favorite albums to listen to while driving through the moutains at night when its snowing. Also this is classified as country music for some reason according to wikipedia.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeneCqwhb-g&list=RDEeneCqwhb-g&start_radio=1
>>129387232SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE!
>>129377840Unbelievably pro, he's probably my favorite metal musician. Lucky enough to have seen him twice
>>129406987i never got the appeal of addicted, it just sounds like pop music
>>129407657It's just a really well executed fusion of industrial metal and saccharine pop with incredibly beefy production. Doesn't overstay its welcome and almost all the choruses are catchy.His later attempts at the same style (Epicloud, Sky Blue) tipped the balance too far into the sweet pop direction imo
>>129407733sky blue starts out good but really shits the bed in the second half.
>>129377840he appears dysgenic. surely a spiteful mutant. its creative output would be a cognitohazard. shan't be listening.
>>129407864>>129407733all music with both "sky" and "blue" in the title are complete dogshit>sky blue - peter gabriel>blue sky - kate bush>sky blue - ziltoid man
>>129406973he was hotter with hair
>>129378010>music isn't math
