Academic elites love and shill for rap “music” and this is fact.When jazz first became a thing the masses of Americans hated it and saw it as degenerate, but the high end literati loved it and promoted it to no end.Starting in the 1940s the CIA launched the Congress for Cultural Freedom, a think-tank designed to channel funds into the anti-Soviet left. They funded intellectuals, musicians and artists who appeared "leftist" but were actually anti-Marxist and anti-proletarian. This included propping up hideous and meaningless modern "art" as a means of alienating the working-class from the arts and ensuring art could only be appreciated by pompous cultured elites.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD49vdreggw There is zero doubt in my mind the CIA has been behind the rise of hip hop for this exact same reason. Hip hop is primarily an anti-working class genre of "music," made by the black lumpenproletariat AKA the criminal underclass. Marx pointed out how the lumpen are an adversary of the genuine working-class, used by the elite classes to offset class struggle. The lumpen in no way threaten the power of cultured elites, hence why they use the lumpen as a substitute revolutionary subject. The Ivory Tower loves and pushes hip hop for this exact reason. The genre is anti-worker, ugly, distorted, chaotic and promotes lumpen and elitist Nietzschean values.Meanwhile China (a socialist nation) bans rap and gets its school children learning real music, namely classical. They don’t get kids to rap or give them MPCs to learn how to “sample” but give them actual instruments. That’s because real socialism isn’t about romanticizing the gutter but about advancing humanity
>>129426408>real socialism isn’t about romanticizing the gutter but about advancing humanity Good luck getting 95% of the western left to accept that trvth nvke
>>129426489There has been a major organized effort by capitalist powers to push the narrative socialism equals poverty and primitivism. They want us to believe socialism means everyone becomes equally poor, when in reality it means everyone becomes equally RICH.
>>129426408but the entire working class listens to rap
>>129426514>but the entire working class listens to raprap listeners would count more as lumpenproletariat rather than working class
>>129426514They don’t. Working-class people listen to music that reflects their values of hard work, family and Christian morality.
>>129426514By design, same with nihilistic and hedonistic punk rock and metal being pushed
>>129426589Punk rock was also a CIA creation. It had everything to do with stopping the working-class from creating their own organic culture as neoliberalism began. Hip hop and punk are inherently anti-worker.
didnt readdont carestill gonna jam out to ike quebec
>>129426408>The Ivory Tower loves and pushes hip hop for this exact reasonI graduated from university in 2015. Not a single course in my un I’d music department focused on rap.
>>129427007what is it about blue note, why is it all kino?
>>129427243People like OP never even finished High School let alone have ever been within 5 miles of a University
>>129426408>Starting in the 1940s the CIA launched the Congress for Cultural Freedom, a think-tank designed to channel funds into the anti-Soviet left. They funded intellectuals, musicians and artistsEvery developed country in the world has a comparable program for funding the arts anon>Meanwhile China (a socialist nation) bans rap and gets its school children learning real music, namely classical. China has almost cultural value to the world despite having over a billion people. Ask yourself why
>>129426408yt boys before listening to Nas
>>129426408It's weird. I hadn't thought about Lupe Fiasco in like a decade, then I was driving around the other day and for some reason I thought of George Takei being a creepy pervert on Howard Stern and then I thought about Little Lupe riding the sibian on Howard Stern and then my mind said, "Lupe Fiasco." and now synchronicity.
>>129426408I don't even particularly like rap but you sound like a really annoying dork
>>129427316China produced Japan and Korea.
>>129426514That's the point. You're listening to some bourgeois rapper rhyme about the struggles fitting into gucci clothes or drinking cristal. There's nothing about opposing excess or overthrow. Even biggie rapped about his struggle and how nice it was to have the luxuries and flaunt it.
>>129427483Is these the best ad hominems the cia can construct? Kek. Man I love rap and hip hop but op isn't wrong, you're just fucking triggered, retard
>>129427578>Is these the best ad hominems the cia can construct? Kek. Man I love rap and hip hop but op isn't wrong, you're just fucking triggered, retard
>>129426567aka country music
>>129426567>>129427629I know plenty of genuine white trash rednecks and believe me, they all listen to rap and are generally influenced by hip hop culture. Country tends to be for older and or more middle class folks.
>>129426408Here's my takeaway from you schizo post>The CIA is based>China is cringe
>>129426507Being equally rich *always* means being equally poor. This is why socialism sucks.
>>129427243a lot changes in 10 years, your experience is out-of-date and irrelevant
>>129427243>>129427302You are laughably in denial of you believe there isn’t an agenda by academic elites to push rap on to the masses.Why is Nas’ Illmatic now considered the greatest album of all time, even surpassing Sgt. Pepper and Dark Side of the Moon?Why does J Dilla get music theory books written about him and his stealing (“sampling”) technique get taught in universities?And of course why did Kendrick Lamar win a Pulitzer Prize and five Grammys in a single night with his song that's been clearly hailed by the elite classes, and perform in the highest rated Super Bowl halftime show?Actual proletarian artists who make music that speaks to the values of the proletariat don’t get anything close to those levels of accolades.>>129427316The CCF had a clear-cut anti-socialist agenda. Promote abstract expressionist “art” and jazz to alienate the masses from the arts.China also produces loads of culture. It’s just that westerners aren’t allowed to see it due to sanctions.
>>129427967Ever consider the idea that you're just a schizo who is woefully detached from reality?
OP is obviously a retarded schizo, but let's humor him for a secondThe "Jazz" that the CIA was promoting to "seperate true art from the masses" or whatever fucking nonsense he's on about was shit like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryA6eHZNnXYThey weren't promoting outright freeform slop, although they did support abstract impressionists like Jackson Pollock, this was largely just to showcase American artists to European art snobs
>rhythm and poetry>I'm still trying to find where the poetry is
Rap was exposed as a Jewish psyop by the Epstein files btw
>>129428021Epstein wasn't the king of the Jews anon, and I bet you can't even show us the exact emails that "expose" this anyways
>>129426408>When jazz first became a thing the masses of Americans hated itHahaha no. It was insanely popular with the masses.
>>129428032Most Americans in the 1920s thought jazz was degenerate filth and realized it was being used to promote immorality. 1920s Americans overwhelmingly preferred folk music.
>>129428071Absolutely not. Stop talking about time periods and genres you know nothing about.
Jazz started out as an offshoot of Dixieland Jazz, which was a style of Light Orchestra that was popular in places like Louisiana at the turn of the 20th century, and later adopted influence from ragtime and Klezmer Hip-Hop started off as a variant of house dance music with strong Disco influences before evolving into early subgenres like ElectroRapping is a lyrical style often associated with Hip-Hop music, and was influenced by Jamaican Toasting Not everything is a CIA or Jewish plot. The CIA is not some omniprescent godlike entity, neither are Jews.
I swear to god if CIA funded someone to say 1+1=2 you people would unironically start to claim it was 3.
>>129427493TRVKE
the CIA invented music
>>129426408Understandable and acceptable terms, unfortunately the lumpens understand what the genuine working class fails at, which is the question of race and genetics, which both the elites and lumpens understand for different ends, very much in tandem with the bell curve of intelligence.
>>129427967>Why is Nas’ Illmatic now considered the greatest album of all time, even surpassing Sgt. Pepper and Dark Side of the Moon?>Why does J Dilla get music theory books written about him and his stealing (“sampling”) technique get taught in universities?>And of course why did Kendrick Lamar win a Pulitzer Prize and five Grammys in a single night with his song that's been clearly hailed by the elite classes, and perform in the highest rated Super Bowl halftime show?What's wrong with any of these?
>>129426408Damn, I really with the CIA would go back to funding great music and art.
>>129429284They're all untrue bullshit is what, you stupid fucking nigger shitbag.
>>129429284Why do you believe Kendrick is the greatest musician of all time and the pinnacle of all music? Doesn't that seem absurd to you? Do you just follow anything the media tells you without question?
>>129426408Academic Elites went to Epstein Island. I don't take their opinions seriously.
>>129429507I don't, but he's a damn good artist.
Off topic politislop thread. Why is this thread still up? You'd think if there was competent moderation, that they would nip this in the bud and clean this shit up, but they don't. Why is that? If there was an another equivalent thinly veiled politslop shitpost coming from the other side of the aisle, that would get removed quickly. You could merely blink and you would miss the sheer rapidity of it's deletion, yet this thread remains up. It's almost like the entire channoid "free speech" narrative is entirely manufactured and built on nothing more than a selective application of the "rules"
Like recorded poetry and sound effects, Rap is classified as non-music.It can be musical, but objectively isn't music. Lupe Fiasco was great on parts of Mural (despite one of the worst sounding/captured beats ever), but him as a professor is absurd. Reciting words for Rap recordings is very much a cuckold experience.
>>129429575What makes him so uniquely great?
>>129429284Rap isn't music for one.
Modern art is incredible and abstract art goes back thousands of years. The CIA didn't necessarily create the art, it was more a co-opt sort of thing. I don't watch YouTube videos, so not clicking on that, but it's the same situation with Rap. If you've ever been to a modern art museum you will understand the true power of the paintings you criticize. You cannot view art online.
>>129429664How is taping a banana to a wall "meaningful art?"
>>129426507yeah just give it one more chance bro lmao
>>129429507What media has said that?
>>129428101morning moshe bro
>>129427967>Why is Nas’ Illmatic now considered the greatest album of all time, even surpassing Sgt. Pepper and Dark Side of the Moon?It's an excellent album. I don't know a single person who thinks Nas is a shitty lyricist and performer.>Why does J Dilla get music theory books written about him and his stealing (“sampling”) technique get taught in universities?He innovated music.>And of course why did Kendrick Lamar win a Pulitzer Prize and five Grammys in a single night He has almost no competition as far as greatness in our time.
>>129426489>>129429786The nazbol larp isn't about advancing humanity at all, it's about larping
>>129428704hope they see this bro
>>129429813The woke left sure as shit isn't advancing humanity at all either
>>129429813yeah lets just let the socialist jews have a turn running shit instead of the capitalist jews I'm sure they're not going to scam us too lmao
>>129428704The problem with that is that the CIA doesn't actually fund any of what these people flap their useless gums about. They are low IQ useless eaters that are fundamentally incapable of functioning in society, yet are allowed and afforded a pleasurable existence by slipping into the gaps of neoliberalism.
>>129429832The le epic woke left isn't all that real. It's mostly a canard and scapegoat.
>>129429763That's contemporary, maybe even post-modern. That's not modern art, but assemblage is a type of art. You don't like it, I certainly don't like it and that's where the subjectivism and contextualism is applied. Art is an objective thing though. Some of the modern paintings here are breathtaking for their scale, density and use of color.
>>129429843"The CIA" isn't a single agency but a collection of agencies (hence "central intelligence agency"). The wing of the CIA that's funding Kendrick is not the same wing of the CIA that's overthrowing socialist governments in LatAm.
>>129429842Low IQ, useless eater babble. The neoliberal naivety that has led to useless eater cattle being afforded a voice amongst polite society, is a tragedy to an almost indescribable degree. It's hard to even measure the damage done by allowing these people to plague the discourse
>>129429849>its not real but if it is its a good thing
>>129429809Illmatic is a great album, but J Dilla was not innovative in any way whatsoever. There's nothing great about Kendrick Lamar. Ishmael Butler of Shabazz Places is 56 years old and has had two eras better than plaything Kendrick could ever put together.
>>129429876>muh cia muh rap blah blah None of what you said merits any attention, you're lower-order cattle human stock gone feral and deserve nothing less but being put down like the rabid cattle that you are.
>>129429900>but J Dilla was not innovative in any way whatsoever.What about Dan Charnas' thesis do you find fault with?
>>129429903literal kike glowie shill is so obvious lmao off yourself moshe
>>129429996>muh da joozYou belong in the field, carrying a heavy plow, and nothing more. Every day that you draw breath as a free man represents a crime against humanity
Effort post because I used to be a communist and actually read all this shit in detail at some point.Revolutionary leftists have bought into Marx's propaganda towards the proletariat wholesale, and forget that Marx's designation of the proletariat as revolutionary subject is purely pragmatical. Communism, for Marx, is the liberation of humanity as a whole from the logic of capital and wage labour. He simply agitated the proletariat because it was politically expedient to do so: they are the majority, they are less intelligent on average and thus more receptive to agitation, and so forth. And in his propaganda to that end he romanticized its class characteristics, but never actually believed it himself. Marx understood, like all revolutionaries (and Lenin later made crystal clear), that the real drivers behind all revolutions are an elite cadre of intellectuals influencing the masses towards an aim.So there is no 'noble' working class soul out there, in actuality. The aim is to liberate man from capital and (wage) labour, and nothing else. Hip hop isn't standing in the way in that regard, and neither would classical music. The utter failure of the 20th century revolutions living in everyone's minds is, and the failure of communist revolutionaries to find a (new) viable strategy for the project of human emancipation which is communism.
>>129430015fuck you, scum
>>129429878ableist bigot
>>129430062Jay-Z was mentioned in the Epstein files, funny enough.
>>129430037Your effort post is wasted. Op is a generic nazbol shitter that isn't worth the time, he hates le rap because it's le black and black people le bad, that's it
>>129430037Why haven't you reverted to Islam bro?
>>129430067yes, this is one of those emails. this one doesnt implicate him in any deviant sex acts, but makes it apparent that the entire multibillion dollar rap industry is built by jews and their coconspirators in order to supress the people. as they have done with our food, our surroundings, our water and everything else. TKD
>>129429981>What about Dan Charnas' thesis do you find fault with?That Charnas is a Jew who teaches at NYU, which receives tens of millions of dollars a year in funding from the CIA.
>>129430073>the entire multibillion dollar rap industry is built by jewstotally obvious to anyone who isn't a complete retard
>>129430080Not an argument
>>129430073It does nothing of the sort, lmao. It's a random fucking email that says nothing beyond a boilerplate leftist worldview.
>>129430080You think the CIA cares enough about the music made by a lupus-ridden autistic nignog from Detroit that they would fund a biography on him? Get real.
>>129430132>>129430113Your country is getting dumber and dumber by the day with the amount of retards jumping out of hollow vaginas and you're here, supporting the downfall.your entire government is a kike psyop.
>>129429809About 50% of Kendrick's discography sucks ass whereas only about 30% of Drake's discography is ass.
>>129430147Le ebic nahtzee babble
>>129430209fuck you, prove me wrong.
>>129430209look at the packaged food in any store near you and tell me if you truly think humans should be eating 80% of it
>>129430212There is no comprehensive, up-to-date public data tracking the percentage of all federal employees who are Jewish. Historical estimates (e.g., from mid-20th century reports) suggested Jewish federal workers were roughly proportional to or slightly above the general population share at the time (~2-4%).No recent government-wide census exists for religious affiliation among the ~2+ million civilian federal employees, as religion is not systematically collected or reported (unlike in Congress, where members self-report publicly).US Population ContextJews make up about 2-2.4% of the total US population (roughly 7.5 million people, per Pew and other demographic estimates around 2020-2025).In summary, the most commonly referenced figure for "US government" in this context is Congress, where Jews represent around 6% — about 3 times their share of the general population. Claims beyond elected officials (e.g., cabinet or bureaucracy) lack similarly precise current statistics.
>>129430080>da (((((((joooooooooooz)))))))
>>129430233fuck you you disingenuous piece of shit
>>129430233kike AI shill poster. kill yourself
>>129430222Chad munches down on Doritos, Fritos, Oreos, and DiGiornio's, every day, 7 days a week, with no problems. He gets gains off of that diet, let alone stays healthy. He's not worried about his test levels or the le hormones in the food, because that's not a problem for him. It's a problem for you, because testosterone levels and health problems are a problem for you, so you need to find something to blame other than your genetic inferiority. Chad doesn't have that problem, because he got gud (genetically).
>>129430242Chanshitters are lower than Ai. You warrant nothing more than an AI response
>>129426408>Lupe>hasn't been relevant since like 2014
>>129430253>implyinglolpost physique, chad lol
>>129430260>truth..???>KIKE AI SAVE ME FROM THE CHUD NAZIS PLEASE I NEED TO DEFLECTepic retort, retard
>>129430265Struck a nerve.
>>129430272>AI is le based but wait no it's actually jewish (that's really bad) in this particular caseHold on a second, this is racism right? This is a slam dunk case for a banning for Racism outside of /b/, which is a clear cut case of violating the rules of 4chan. Mods will crack down on this, right?Still waiting on your rebuttal so I can feed it into Grok btw, rape victim
>>129430282fuck you kike i never said nor implied AI is based, you're just making shit up to take away from the main point.fuck yourself
>>129427967>Why is Nas’ Illmatic now considered the greatest album of all time, even surpassing Sgt. Pepper and Dark Side of the Moon?are they wrong tho?
>>129430233with so much of the elite being implicated with overseas jews through the epstein files, do you really think anyone with a brain is truly buying any of your bullshit
