harmony, rhythm, counterpoint, technique, improvisation, composition, if you're doing it to learn, post it.
>>129446704>thinks /mu/ can play, read or write music
>>129446971then i will be alone in my music practice threads
>>129446704all i need to know is I vi IV V
I hate how many sites charge for sheet music for public domain composers
>>129447265do they? all i can think of is situations where it's somebody's (not the composer) transcription or arrangement, for the rest, there's the IMSLP
>>129447302Thats what I mean, I didn't know people were allowed to charge for an arrangement.
>>129447140by far the worst progression, your song should automatically be labeled slop if you use it. second place is the pachelbel progression
E b d g f are the names of the lines of the treble clef F a c e the spaces are easy.
>>129446704How to detect and master the lydian mode?>inb4 the anon that doesn't believe the modes existhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEEfp8OqgHo
>>129446704relative pitch training and just listening to music covers all of this without actively trying to learn
>>129446704100 sus chords along all the key range of every type! EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. I'm gonna get ripped!
>>129446704I want to unlock this harmony. Its simple enough:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFmDaoAkS_4Key guide:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljsFOaiRCMM
learning the scale patterns on guitar and working on my trance album its going well but also tough
>>129447751Modes literally aren't real, that song is in C Major. >B-but they occasionally return to the modal center!lmao, that doesn't mean its real. Modes are literally just for youtubers to make clickbait.
>>129447751what do you mean "how to detect"? you hear it.
>>129447140well you already know H I V so you're halfway there. You should be able to pick up vi and IV pretty quickly.
>>129448169How to be able to tell what is a lydian mode while hearing the keys being used. It's more than just "sounds beautiful, dreamy" there is a "formula" to it, it has it's key range.
>>129448399Waltz are easy but always sound beautiful. It's good to have say a 4/4 prog rock song then mid song at the bridge or something you switch it up to 3/4 it throws you off in a good way. The mental journey that happens is more aesthetic.https://youtu.be/JWnfQ5Z7sk4?si=KF12vKtVSdEM2WEM&t=16( ͡~ ͜ʖ~)
>>129448405its pretty simple if you have decent relative pitch which can be practiced, it's the only mode with a major 3rd and sharp 4 (tritone). modes are mostly determined by the start and end notes of a given passage since modes are technically just the same notes of the diatonic in a different order. anything you hear major chord -> minor chord a major third above the root of the first major its lydian. you can also detect modes by looking at the 7th.
G Am C D
>>129448435touche
>>129448448Stop using my avatar.>>129448453All waltz got more or less the same left (rhythm / bass hand) tan-tan-tan tan-tan-tan tan-tan-tan every noob can learn this to recognize Waltz'es
>>129448405how do you tell apart minor and major?
This is a Waltz:https://youtu.be/7tYRUtDQNF4?si=GQNpsCcLE8rtOrg8&t=103/4tan-tan-tan tan-tan-tan tan-tan-tan
>>129448508Major is W-W-H-W-W-W-HMinor is W-H-W-W-H-W-WLydian is... the major scale but focuses specifically on a certain note?Face it, modes are bullshit.
>>129448541>>129448435>>129447869>>129447751>Everyone just posts video game music. Really tells me all I need to know about how much music theory you guys actually know.
>>129448566Play the songs posted>he can't because he is a noob>he watches porn insteadPathetic...
>>129448566Meant to end the green text after the first sentence. Forgive me
>>129448551>Major is W-W-H-W-W-W-H>Minor is W-H-W-W-H-W-Wand lydian is W-W-W-H-W-W-Hproblem solved
>>129448574In other words its just the major scale but you start on the 4th. Like I said modes are bullshit.
>>129448573>Can't green text properly>ESL>Doesn't even own a midi piano>Post cropped porn
>>129448590wrong. the start and end point of a phrase and the intervalic relationships between the notes in between completely define its character. you don't have she sells sanctuary without mixolydian and you don't have 85% of film scores without lydian. you don't have bitches brew without dorian.
>>129448597Its not porn you retards, she's a famous eastern European actress. But keep listening to your bing bing yahoo music while the grown ups actually discuss real music and not fairy tale "modes"
>>129446704All the instruments are just a combination of bunch of sinewaves:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx_kugSemfY
>>129448606>it completely defines its character bro, its all about how it feelllls manIts a major scale.
>>129448611Are you seriously just learning how sound works? I guess better late than never
>>129448610>>129448590>doesn't believe in modes>he is not augmented>he is an ESL from RedditRick Beato has a Horse Cock btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4IJnSTS84A
>>129448632>posts another clickbait youtuberits getting kind of embarrassing at this point. modes quite literally insist upon themselves, there is no real way to differentiate them from major/minor.
>>129448590i'm probably not the anon you think you're replying to.i don't think modes are entirely bullshit, they're useful over a drone or vamp, and sometimes for composing, but in that case lydian is pretty low on the list.the rest of the time, it's tonal. whatever it is, it's not modes.
>>129448623which i originally specified anyways. it's not exactly a major scale because a major scale doesn't have a sharp 4th. more accurately its a major scale starting on the 4th and ending on the 4th if you're trying to split hairs. which will produce a different result than playing a major scale starting in the first degree.
>>129448650not all music is modal and some music is kept modally ambiguous through not touching relevant definitive intervals
>>129448669>it's not exactly a major scale because a major scale doesn't have a sharp 4th.Roasted his ass with simple but accurate knowledge. Thank you for being helpful anon.
>>129448551the major and minor(natural) scales are the same scale patterns. what defines the keys major/minor is what note you "focus on". lydian works the same yes but its also the same scale thats the whole fucking point of the modes.ur getting tangled up in relative and parallell keys but theyre all the same pattern>>129448590only if u think the starting chord defines the key, it doesnt. its a possible hint and is common thats it>>129448623scale =/= key>>129448650every mode is tonal thats what defines them
>>129446704i feel like a potential frontier for modern pop music is stuff that takes some of harmonic complexity that defined the beach boys more seminal works (pet sounds etc) and giving the production/sound design/arrangement/pallet a bit of a contemporary facelift. pop music (and its underground offshoots) seems like it stopped favoring harmonic/chordal variation over the past few decades. there's a lot of modal stuff and a lot of extended jazz chords that define contemporary sounds but i wish someone would find a way to take this further and do some brian wilson multiple tonal center shit. would be interesting with hard pitched vocals but prob a workflow headache given most music software (and pitch correction) locks you into a key. i think its a true testament of compositional ability when you can incorporate multiple keys and the kind of chromaticism associated w brian wilson (even a lot of beatles stuff) and still come out sounding consonant, catchy. does this exist yet? if you have recs i'd prefer 2020 and later. just feel like we've exhausted so much raw sonic/sound design innovation (the last properly 'new' sounding timbre was like 2012 with the dubstep shit regardless of whether you like the genre) that the only way forward is back to matter s of the raw musical form.
>>129449030like i guess in a way in theory this sounds like some jacob collier shit and probably what he wants to sound like but that is emblematic of everything about the wrong way to approach this kind of intent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqaUrsuFsBk(CC) subtitles, its in japanese but it has translation
>>129448448They sound like the Coldplay chords, i dont remember the song but I'm pretty sure they use those they sound very familiar:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngplzO92-Q4
>>129449323this 1 is betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQbPQ0ssX4s
I can't make my drum beats match the guitars and other stuff in the mix.
>>129448960>every mode is tonal thats what defines them"tonal" has a precise meaning that you don't seem to know
The one that I love, the Mixolydian mode.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixolydian_mode
>>129449592Did you do the drums first? Because you have to do that. Trying to add drums after the other instruments is impossible without just slicing up and sampling everything else, at witch point you might as well just re-record everything.
>>129446704How is my florid exercise.
>>129446704Where do I start? I have a piano and a keyboard. Also bass and drums.
Should trash rhythm be all downstrokes?
>>129451662as of right now i'm too stupid to get far enough into the book to be doing florid counterpoint. not because it's hard to understand, i just suck ass at reading, and not reading music, words.
Im going through Salieri's counterpoint exercises.
>>129449592What do you mean by match? Are you using ducking?
>>129449592do them with AI
>>129452398How good are you? If you are a zero skill noob unironically learn Zelda Songs in Synthesia. I mean this 100% 200%Gwyn's theme from Dark Souls 1then move on to harder stuff like Final Fantasy tunes from Uematsu then the real hard stuff like Hamauzu. Thats how I'm getting gud.Hamauzu is well versed in Debussy, Bach, Maurice Ravel, Scriabin, Messiaen, Schoenberg, Bill Evans, Herbie Hancock and Yellow Magic Orchesta (YMO)So probably learn those too when you become intermediate level. But start somewhat easy. Nintendo songs are fine, of any game you played that resonate in your mind and bring back pleasant memories.
>>129450878this is like not true and makes you sound very narrow minded
>>129449592drums have a pitch/key. its more enharmonic and harder to immediately detect but if you use an eq you can look for the strongest fundamental resonant frequency, find its corresponding note, and tune your drums to the key of the instruments. you can intentionally contrast it too. but usually lack of blending comes down to some combination of what i mentioned, making sure transients are aligned tightly/microtiming (unless loose is what you're going for), and with guitar and particular balancing the high mids, high frequencies w the high frequency transients of the drums and esp cymbals/hats. also helps to have a vague sense of what frequency range the primarily rhythmic transient material the guitar is occupying (again usually high, high mids). it can sometimes sound good to make the transient content of the guitar and drums occupy the same frequency range too. beyond all this, try mild sidechaining and make sure you take care of the unnecessary sub frequencies in the guitar. try pitching guitars down an octave or another fake bass approach too because bass works really well to glue guitar (and keys etc) to percussives.
>>129459815like i could go on i didn't really touch on drum specific stuff like compression, saturation, bus compression, multiband, exciting, transient shaping but it could also be issues in either the drum or guitar on their own so make sure u get the fundamentals down
>>12944959295% of pro musicians that arent drummers or bass players cannot keep really good time
>>129459894drummers suck at making melody tbqhfamalamambimbombam these days they can be replaced with AI. It's better to be a pianist or guitarist nowadays.
What's the best way to master rhythm? I can't afford to live in Southern India for 5 years to study with a guru.
>>129461176Learn lots of different rhythms and when you've amassed enough do some pattern matching and see which ones blend together well. Over time you'll figure out how to make more unlikely combinations work and people will say you're creative.
>>129461176What does India know about rhythm?
>>129461449Shame on (You).
>>129462432why
partice erry dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFN1x0DtUYw
If these threads die, this kinda discussion is fun in /gg/. I don't really have anything to add though
>>129464592/gg/ is too busy buying new guitars and not actually playing them.Pianofags > GuitarfagsAltho we compliment each other, Piano + Guitar Harmony = God-like.Its a shame the guitar fags of /mu/ don't want to practice and create. They want to max their credit card...
>>129464607There's plenty of post in /gg/ about practicing. I think that's all I talk about there. Still people talking about buying stuff but lots of music posted there
>>129449592this nigga trips when he walks
i like the concept of this general
>>129468151then practice something pull out your keys do some modal scales, do some chords, open up notepad write the chords you like how they sound the most
>>129446704Haven't picked up an instrument in a month, i think i'm depressed.
>>129468920Nothing is stopping you from doing it now
>>129468920>>129470109this exactly. pick up the instrument right now. the cesspool that is 4chan will be here when you're done playing; it's not going anywhere.
I can swing 8th notes no problem but how the FUCK do you swing 16th notes??
