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What's some good appropriate secular music for a Christian? I can handle a bit of cussing/sinful lyrics but if the whole song glorifies sin then it's not for me, instrumental music is completely fine along with Christian themed songs from secular artists like Kendrick Lamar - Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst or GZA - B.I.B.L.E.
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why does 4chan think that larping as a puritan soccer mom is cool
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>>129455247
You know what isn't cool? Hell
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>>129455236
Spacemen 3
>>129455247
Op is probably not a tranny
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>>129455267
the concept hell was invented for psychopaths who cant fathom why it might not be good to rape someone unless there's a direct punishment for it
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>>129455285
Demons do exist and reveal themselves during sleep paralysis, meth benders and benadryl trips, if you don't turn back to Christ you'll have to not only deal with being helplessly tormented but being burnt forever, your choice, not gonna force you to convert
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>>129455337
and you will waste your only shot at life abdicating your purpose and responsibility towards yourself to a god who doesn't care if children will live to make that choice
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>>129455443
>waste your only shot at life
There's 3 lives in my belief, the one where you are a lost sheep trying to look for fulfillment in a world that has none, the 2nd life where you realise that chasing fleshly materialistic desires and commuting sins just makes you miserable and you repent to Christ and the life after the death of the flesh which depends on if you took the stairway to Heaven or Highway to hell, I look at earth life as something that I never asked for so might as well put faith into a infinitely better one with no evil, becoming born again freed me from a lot of the burdens this pedo satanist ruled world tries to put on you such as being happy with the way God made me and freed me from the self destructive sin of envy
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>>129455236
i was gonna suggest Stryper, but they're a explicitly christian band and not really that secular.
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>>129455236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8OeBZQn3_w
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>>129455534
I'll check them out, i should've stated that worship artists/bands are also welcome
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This band is christian themed.
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>>129455337
wild conjecture stated as fact
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>>129455275
bug brain
docile puppet
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>>129455540
Awesome, before becoming serious about my faith I would listen to rap where the lyrics were adultery, murder, drugs, disrespecting dead people (can't deny that Off The Tooka is a timeless banger though) and materialism
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>>129455247
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>>129455526
Music about sex, drugs, violence, crime, partying, etc is not something I really care to avoid, but he's not hurting himself by searching for different topics in his music. Ironically, I don't really do any of that stuff.

I'm not exactly religious, but I can still suggest stuff for the OP to listen to.
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>>129455236
just dont listen to gangster rap or brutal dm or slutpop or.. I guess nasheeds are out
like 99% of music fits your description
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>>129455526
you're looking for permanent happiness instead of accepting that fulfillment is an organ you need to breathe life into. It is the most gluttonous desire of all. your supposed god put you on this planet and you spit on its face. All this is not enough? why would such an ungrateful person ever deserve something such as heaven? You're not special for seeing the evil of this world. The burden of this world is that we are all responsible for it but you're looking for the exit door right away instead of focusing on how you can help others. Maybe that's where you would find real fulfillment.
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>>129455688
>I guess nasheeds are out
there are christian prayers in arabic.
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>>129455688
Yeah, f Hollywood, bunch of devil worshippers, people are like "why is this talentless tard popular?" for example that dude who originated the 6 7 viral meme is into all types of ritualistic stuff, musical talent isn't nearly as important as your witchcraft talent in the mainstream music industry, Diddy isn't the only messed up person in that group too
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>>129455236
you could always listen to the Mars Volta because their lyrics make no fucking sense
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>>129455236
OP I don't know if you expected actual recommendations for this thread instead of just a gay back and forth between an internet christian [?] and internet atheist [?]. Maybe this little quarreling might actually be the exact opportunity for preaching that you were baiting for, I can't know, but assuming you're not acting in bad faith, basically the entire prog rock oeuvre is made by virgin nerds for virgin nerds, and despite having "rock" in the name, they're too uncool to sing about sex drugs & rock n roll

So listen to Anekdoten's Until The Ghosts Are All Gone which is a fun album I've been spinning lately or 70s Genesis or whatever and see if you like the genre
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>>129455247
that's like a strong majority of users of most websites at this point whether they're larping as christians or larping as "lesbian women". same mindset. your peers are a bunch of lame faggots with a bunch of lame excuses
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>>129455791
>Maybe this little quarreling might actually be the exact opportunity for preaching that you were baiting for, I can't know, but assuming you're not acting in bad faith, basically the entire prog rock oeuvre is made by virgin nerds for virgin nerds, and despite having "rock" in the name, they're too uncool to sing about sex drugs & rock n roll
There are prog-rock songs about sex, but it's not the most common. ELP has a few, but most of their discography isn't about that stuff.
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>>129455889
I was exaggerating a little, King Crimson has that Ladies of The Road tune and Easy Money for instance. But if you compare to other rock genres like the hard rock of the time, or the glam and grunge that came in the following decades, you start to see what I meant

And what you said about ELP is true. Their two most famous works (Tarkus and Karn Evil 9) are basically sci fi stories. Rush's 2112 is the most ambitiously twee "music will save us all" song of all time

>>129455782
lmao true. I think TMV lyrics just mean whatever you want them to mean since they're indecipherable, although they do evoke some violent imagery at points
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>>129455791
he can also listen to instrumentals and classical music.
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>>129455943
>Their two most famous works (Tarkus and Karn Evil 9) are basically sci fi stories
There's a few stray lines about 7 virgin and a mule in karn evil 9.
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>>129455977
right but it's not like it's glorifying bestiality right?
it's just an absurd passing line that signals how depraved that apocalyptic circus was

>>129455965
and excellent big band jazz, too. that goes without saying, I was specifically trying to tailor some recommendation that had lyrics for OP, since it seems he's mainly into hip hop...? which is heavily lyrical music although the quality of said lyrics can be questionable at times
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>>129455236
grow some balls and listen to Deathspell Omega.
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FACT— heaven/hell arent real and you should do good shit rn
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>>129455236
Underoath
mewithoutYou
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>>129456119
>and excellent big band jazz, too. that goes without saying, I was specifically trying to tailor some recommendation that had lyrics for OP, since it seems he's mainly into hip hop...? which is heavily lyrical music although the quality of said lyrics can be questionable at times
there's definitely instrumental bands with trap (or general hip-hop) style rhytms.
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>>129456119
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw0_qHNRAEA
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>>129456678
>good shit is being lazy, masturbating, yelling at minorities on the internet
>bad shit is exercising, being disciplined, getting shit done
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>>129456808
>there's definitely instrumental bands with trap (or general hip-hop) style rhytms.
i forgot to give an example. The most obvious would be polyphia:

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuOJNBICyQ
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNmz17gnMw
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>>129456678
I do take THC oil as pain relief and as a meditation aid, the worldly "fun" stuff like fornication just causes mental, physical and spiritual self harm
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>>129455236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=496FEK7pkCc
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>>129456849
Nice find, thanks, works despite YouTube being down
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Blow that shit smooth off twain
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>>129456947
YouTube main page being down not showing recommended vids*
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>>129456937
Dope, so glad I didn't take that dodgy vaccine for the rebranded flu
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>>129456818
nothing you listed is of any worth to anyone other than your own individual self
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>>129457095
>nothing you listed is of any worth to anyone other than your own individual self
getting shit done. the masses want to see what you can create.
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>>129457653
thanks pal i have like 9 startups going rn so im on it
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>>129455236
+ Laughing Stock too. In genre and lyrical themes I've always thought it would appeal to Christianity
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https://youtu.be/XkMoJqNVHU4
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Megadeth after Dave Mustaine became a born again Christian.
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better to rain in hell than surf in heaven
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>>129455236
Look into projects from Neal Morse, including his later albums with Spock's Beard: V and especially Snow.

>>129459304
Very good suggestion.
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>>129455285
Put your ego aside for just a moment and consider the consequences of being incorrect.
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>>129455247
Everything people do on this website is motivated by performative contrarianism and a need to make mad whatever entity is living in their heads rent-free.
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>>129462112
s-so because some butthurt chirstcuck made an bingo it means that is all fake, and god is real?
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>>129462213
TRVTH
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When people ask what 4chan is, they should be directed to your post.
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>>129455236
i want to sleep in teto's big fat sweaty belly
is this feeling normal?
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>>129455285
Yes? Are you dense? You and they both don't know how it would feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning.
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>>129462112
what is this nonsense about racism being incompatible with christianity? the entire old testament is "gentile bad (unless they are nice to the jews), jews good (even though they constantly fuck up)". heavy themes of ingroup vs outgroup
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>>129455688
>brutal dm
We praise the lord here.
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>>129455236
>I can handle a bit of cussing
pic-related
>>129455247
zoomer cope for getting no sex
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>>129462664
I didn't make the image, but if I had to guess, it's just poking fun of an alt right talking point that states that christianity and its sentimentality is the reason you have somalians in the USA or Europe raping and killing and whatnot, and thus we must do away with all this christian stuff and replace it with the good nietzschean stuff and have miniatures of Arno Breker statues sold in souvenir shopes, et cetera. Naturally, there are ways of reconciling christianity with racism, much like there are ways of reconciling any thought system with any other thought system if you're clever enough (or slippery enough).

In fact I can think of a compromise right now, let's try this:
>Not all races are equal in their capacities and behaviors, statiscally speaking, much like the same people inside a race are not equal, or maybe inside the same family; however, they are all made by God, for whatever purpose, and thus are capable of salvation and are opportunities for both charity (mercy) and justice (punishment); from this, it does not neccessarily follow the thesis of total nigger death

There we go. Not too bad for a minute of thinking, and I'm sure you can make it more sophisticated if you wish. Do I believe in it? Not really, I'm just toying with the idea in my head.

>the entire old testament is [...]
Some christians accept this as true while still arguing that both Christ (and more explicitly Paul of Tarsus) abolished tribalistic in-group out-group thinking in favor of "spiritual" brotherhood inside the church, at least when it comes to salvation and favoritism.
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>>129462309
Again, I didn't make the image, but I don't think it tries to refute any of the claims presented. Rather it just serves to highlight the fact that the claims are so tired and rehashed they have ceased to be novel (for anyone older than 16) and so the image is kind of funnny for anyone who has encountered all the claims online a few dozen of times. Internet arguments are fruitless, the image is just meant to be funny.
In fact, most of the claims highlighted in the bingo (and also the religious responses to them) don't even warrant any "refutation" because they're not arguments at all, they're just... statements.
Take for instance the claim that
>Religion was invented to control the masses
That's a bold claim, but it's not an argument. At best it "points" to an argument being made elsewhere, in a debate that has been going for quite a while. If you actually try to follow this discussion, you will be presented with such a large volume of argumentation from both sides you'll only exhaust it (maybe) after a lifetime of study. Nobody really does that, in the end you just sort of believe what you want.

Take this other claim right here: >>129461889
>Put your ego aside for just a moment and consider the consequences of being incorrect.
This is just a variation of Pascal's Wager, and the same objection applies. If you actually tru to follow all the debate on this specific argument, you will again be presented with such a large volume of text you'd have to dedicate a lifetime just to sort it out. Again, nobody does that, we just sort of believe what we want.

TL;DR
The bingo doesn't refute any claims because, they don't even deserve the effort refutation; internet apologetics by christians also do not deserve the effort of refutation; claims made by both sides just "point" to real debate that has been raging for centuries and of a volume so large it is basically undecidable. We all believe what we want and try to justify it later
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>>129462994
Actually, this stuff I posted is off-topic and warrants deletion, if not an outright ban. I should have kept my damned mouth shut, but I just couldn't resist posting that little bingo image. Guess I should stop now. Back to song recommendations...

>>129455236
OP, check The Contortionist's "Clairvoyant" album. It's a really accessible piece of alternative rock with some progressive influence dedicated to a friend of the singer, who relied on drugs after his mother died and then ended up also dead from an overdose. It's not explicitly an anti drug album, since I'd bet the guys in the band use drugs themselves, but it does lives in that space of "afterparty" tunes that reflects on youth rashness after growing up a little. The album is labeled as "progressive rock" or "progressive metal" but I hate that label since it makes me think of Dream Theater or Animals as Leaders and this album is far removed from that, it's more of an alternative rock LP with some restrained keyboard parts. Try it if you dig rock music already or want to get into rock music.
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>>129462490
only good post itt
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>>129462112
>>129456818
Are you people retarded? We Hitler lovers are mostly Christian
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>>129465608
He was Norse Pagan



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