Franck editionhttps://youtu.be/R_Mp5WBmArAThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>129500228
in just intonation there are three possible tunings for a pentatonic scale but in each case one of the fifths will always be out of tune:24-27-30-36-4032-36-40-48-5436-40-45-54-60
Schumann
>>129507445<<<<< Burgmuller
Anyone know any classical songs with lyrics? Ts is kind of boring no cap
Wheres the snime threadYoure such fucking losers
just intonation sisters, our response?>>129507441
>>129507468Opera, but thats just a more terrible and annoying classical somehow.
>>129507469I have no idea what you're talking about. it might be time to take your meds.
>>129507445Chad Schumann
>>129507529
I'm confused, are there no recent recordings of Tannhauser? The newest one seems to be like Haitink or Barenboim or Sinopoli. This can't be right. And there's only like 8 recordings, what's the deal? I understand recording an opera, particularly a Wagner opera, is an expensive, intensive, collaborative affair, but c'mon now. Guess I'll just have to try this Cluytens recording.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFdny4BelAc&list=OLAK5uy_lAVJ-5yU-1W2jYGFA2ezvSEXc9241Jm4w&index=1There's not even a Thielemann recording.
>>129508638People usually listen to one piece at a time, every now and then, not 232848 godzillion recordings of the same piece per day, y'know.
>>129508749What can I say, when I get into something, I go all out :D
>>129508749>>129508800But I see your point, perhaps I should spend more time getting to know the recordings I already like better. However, like with dating, I just wanna explore the field a bit more before I settle down, y'know?
>>129508808It is a mistake to get fixated on one specific recording. Each piece of music admits a variety of interpretations, and if you listen to one particular interpretation too much it will burn itself into your mind as the "correct" one. Then, when you listen to a different interpretation, you will subconsciously reject it even though it may be perfectly good.
>>129508833That's what I'm sayin'! Well put. Plus I just find the act of trying a wide assortment of different recordings each with their own distinct interpretation to be fun. People act like it's a chore or something.
>When CDs first came out, there were some small operators who would take mono recordings, and put the first act on one channel, and the second act on the other channel. SO to play the CD, you crank the balance knob over to "right" channel, and hear the first act, then crank the knob the other way and play the CD over again to hear the second act.my god, can you imagine
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5VMRh4RsOQ
>>129508833>>129508845It is also true that by listening to variety of interpretations without truly memorizing one or multiple interpretations by heart, you won't be able to objectively discern between the interpretations or accurately compare them.So it's wise to do both, fixate, and then explore, with a reference in mind.
>>129508986Interpretations should not be compared against each other, but against the music in itself. Choosing a reference recording means arbitrarily elevating one particular interpretation above the rest.
Speaking of recordings, I kinda feel like doing a week or two of only old recordings. Pretty much anything where the audio quality isn't top-notch, probably with some hiss or tin echo or in mono. Finally give some of these old great conductors and their historical classics a fair shake. This is primarily motivated by how wonderful this one >>129508638 is so far.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5qr9tX_ILs&list=OLAK5uy_lAVJ-5yU-1W2jYGFA2ezvSEXc9241Jm4w&index=14
>>129509100one more excerpt I wanna sharehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaiRA3kh2o0&list=OLAK5uy_lAVJ-5yU-1W2jYGFA2ezvSEXc9241Jm4w&index=20so incredible!
now playingstart of Ravel: Piano Concerto in G Major, M. 83https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-mwaLVO3iE&list=OLAK5uy_mnUvHRmlQiHeu2ic7-XKQe6QwbL1NFc5E&index=2Fauré: Ballade in F sharp, Op. 19https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnzKSvFMwas&list=OLAK5uy_mnUvHRmlQiHeu2ic7-XKQe6QwbL1NFc5E&index=5start of Ravel: Piano Concerto for the Left Hand, M. 82https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2K3ei4ONpo&list=OLAK5uy_mnUvHRmlQiHeu2ic7-XKQe6QwbL1NFc5E&index=5https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mnUvHRmlQiHeu2ic7-XKQe6QwbL1NFc5E>For pianist Yuja Wang's newest album on DG, she wows with two perennial hits: Ravel's Piano Concerto in G major and The Piano Concerto for the Left Hand in D major. Ravel composed both concertos between 1929 and 1930 and the latter was commissioned by the Austrian pianist Paul Wittgenstein, who lost his right arm during World War I. The young, stellar conductor Lionel Bringuier and Tonhalle-Orchester Zürich are the perfect partners.Been really loving these Ravel piano concertos lately, and Faure's Ballad is always a wonderful listen.
>>129509056Interpretation IS the music. There is no "music" independent of performers out there in the ether, you either listen or you don't. Unless you mean the score specifically, assuming you can read the score SO WELL as to imagine an entire orchestra in mind, which I highly doubt.No matter what, you are automatically choosing a reference when comparing recordings. The more familiar you are with the reference, and more honest you are about this entire thing in the first place, the better you will compare and choose.Choosing a reference does not mean elevating the reference at all. My reference might be conductor X, but hearing conductor Y might change my mind and thus the reference.
For this morning's opera performance, we listen to Verdi's Il Trovatore conducted by Herbert von Karajan and headlined by Maria Callas.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9YZzQcPFos&list=OLAK5uy_ko__wYFYUE5wbTL2rd5oXlw2RztabgVgE&index=7>Maria Callas's voice was never noted for its sheer beauty, but she was in her best form for this session and she knew exactly what to do with what she had. She might not make the distraught figure of Leonora rationally credible, but she knows more about acting with her voice than anyone this side of Sir John Gielgud. And she puts Leonora's emotions, her vulnerability, her whole-hearted, self-sacrificial love, squarely before the listener. Herbert von Karajan's conducting brings logical coherence to a work not noted for that quality. In short, this is vintage Callas, at the top of her form in some of the greatest music and some of the most intensely emotional situations ever devised for a soprano. Von Karajan--young and not yet burdened with the mannerisms of his later years, is an ideal partner. The other singers, though dwarfed by Callas, provide substantial support. --Joe McLellanFinally a Callas recording with a great conductor. Then again maybe I'm not giving Serafin a fair shake. idk, I guess I'll start giving more of her recordings a listen, they wouldn't remain popular and acclaimed even to this day if they weren't worthwhile.
>>129509199There are many recordings of Callas with great conductors, this isn't one of them.
>>129509232:OPutting your dislike of Karajan aside, what are a few of Callas' best recordings you'd recommend?
>>129507008 It's a shame because production quality potential now is higher than ever, so ideally you'd be able to put on the an artistically grand and beautiful stage design worthy of the music more than ever before, yet it seems audiences find the whole medieval, high fantasy aesthetic gauche and vulgar, so we don't ever get to really see it.
>Tannhauserwagnersisters...
>>129509253Here's onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-tikbjW6Lc&list=OLAK5uy_lYfCJym9m6pvUrfjT9n7LI86mXH15i8eU
>>129509318>Antonio VottoI don't know who that is, so I will pass. There's so many recordings of the great operas by top-tier conductors, why would I settle for anything less?
>>129507468>>129507473I know this is bait but why do people act like Opera is the only kind of vocal music there is? Especially when Cantatas, Masses and Oratorios tend to be a lot more accessible than opera for someone used to listening to albums. Especially masses.
>>129509307Tannhäuser is sometimes ignored or dismissed because of its relative immaturity compared to later works on similar themes, but I personally found it a great entry point for Wagner. The very stark and palpable contrast between the chaste pilgrim chorale and the erotic and ravishing Venusberg music is very generative and stimulating and makes for a clear expression of the ideas, musical and philosophical, that you'll find Wagner preoccupied with in later works.
>>129509349I think part of it is a weird hangover of the 20th century that leads classical critics to assume new listeners won't be interested in oratorios since they have a Christian and Victorian association, while opera can be characterised as colourful, dramatic, lascivious, etc.
>>129509387Its not like secular oratorios dont exist.
>>129509349People who aren't into classical don't really know about the existence of sacred music, to them it's "church music", not classical written by the same composers as these other forms. At most they know about Mozart's Requiem, and it's considered like a one-off, a historical artifact from when the church was a part of everyday society for each and every person.At least that's how it was for me. When I first came across Beethoven's Missa Solemnis, I couldn't believe my ears.
Notice how he did not mention Lieder.
Let's see how this 1930 Bayreuth performance of Tannhauser I just came across soundshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELrUtQSoM84&list=OLAK5uy_lHCjWYcfhA7g80pfimmjCec17hNCG-El0&index=7The singing is actually kinda charming. Can't hear the orchestra at all though sadly.
>>129509427Well, i am specifically talking about orchestral music and lieder mainly got orchestral in the romantic period. Should have specified that.
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCumUJtgAq0
>>129509157>There is no "music" independent of performers out there in the ether, you either listen or you don't.a lot of words to say you can't sight-read
Schumannhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMNOoU1Og8&list=OLAK5uy_lWN6wNxTAPgZAOAS-ELS6JZmQnqnLiI4w&index=2
>>129509157You are correct that music requires interpretation. What I meant by comparing against the music is evaluating whether an interpretation works in service of the music, i.e. whether the interpretative choices work towards realizing what a given piece of music is trying to achieve, or whether the conductor is merely working as a metronome for the orchestra without much influence otherwise, or whether he might even be working against the music by making nonsensical interpretative choices in an effort to stand out from the crowd. For this, you do not need a reference.Also, changing your reference merely changes which recording you elevate.
>>129509839what a horrid cover
>>129507398>https://rentry.org/classicalgenwhy are the OC classical downloads from the /general/ pasta all empty? I'd love to get my hands on the yellow piss section
>>129509885That's a different topic entirely. Two interpreters might be working in "service of the music" yet one might do a far better job than the other. And yes, you need a reference for it. Again, unless you read scores, imagine the music in your head, reference recording is all you have.
I don't listen to german operas or songs if the singers aren't ethnic Germans. It's extremely annoying listening to amerimutts trying to perform musical pieces like Schubert's Winterreise, Die Zauberflöte or any Wagner opera. It degrades the overall listening experience severely.
>>129510791This but for Italian operas.
hi guys, i have an old violin.is it true that you need a teacher to learn the proper posture or can i attempt to do it myself?
>>129511022You definitely need a teacher.
>>129510791cool story bro
>>129510791That guy is squinting so hard it looks painful. Just invest in a pair of glasses already.
>>129511065fine, thank you
>>129507441>ooo the wolf tone, gotta avoid that one bro!I hate this mentality, the wolf tone is one of the most beautiful forgotten tones that would add a lot to music if it were actually used
>>129507468Listen to Handel's Messiah
>>129509839digital cameras were such a mistake. that pic only needs the date on the corner to be entirely awesome.
FACT: everything sounds better in German.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22s3GI2QbnY
Prokofievhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--n70brr80
>people take this broken spot machine "music" seriouslyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTcubPz9beM
>modern wagnerian singing suc--ACK!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ErZXW8Fyjk&list=OLAK5uy_nw2Z0S7kViT1Q4O9O3Oia5V8pyfXFsC4A&index=21
How come tenors get so little love from Mozart? All the good parts in his operas are for baritones.
Mendelssohnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=344w5UFq2dE
>Piano is bad because equal temperamentBuddy, ever hear of something called tuning? If you don't like your pianos tuning just change it. Jacob Collier does this thing where he notices his piano is out of tune midconcert and he stops and tunes it correctly. Don't tell me you are less skilled than Jacob Collier?
>>129512868Music is so cooked whenever this guy comes upIts like the most demoralizing thing ever
>>129512720true masculine culture
Since I spend most of my time listening to classical while lying in bed, I need to figure out a way to get the libretto projected onto the ceiling so I can follow along, lol. It's not really comfortable trying to do that on my phone.
Is there any piano sonata as sublime as Schubert's D.960?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LngVzO-3K6I
>>129512868if not having perfect pitch means we are less skilled then we are, yeah
>>129513054just learn the language
Anyone else love classical music but have terrible musical memory? I can't follow variations, I can't remember quotations, I can't distinguish capitulations and developments. Things just kinda happen in the moment, and at most I might somewhat have an inkling I heard the current melody in some shape or form before.
>>129513234Just music or do you have bad memory in general?
>>129513313Just music. I have wonderful memory for most everything else.
>>129513319Do you sing or play an instrument? Having a physical connection to the music might help.
>>129513406nope, and perhaps but too late in life for that.
>>129513455What, are you 80?
I gotta admit, listening to older recordings, there's a special feeling of artistic connection I feel. Anyone know what I mean? Here are these musicians, who lived in a completely different era -- hell, died before I was born -- performing the same music I enjoy today, and I'm able to directly enjoy their craft and output from 70-80 years ago.
Pezold
>>129513761good old petzoldpostingthose were the days
>>129513875those days were just as forced and unfunny as now
Bruckner 9 is the best symphony ever and it isn't even finished
For tonight's opera performance, we listen to Verdi's Macbeth conducted by Karl Bohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-POGkp-9EkI&list=OLAK5uy_lmmt1sBaB5deTnVNDodMX85DpptfGTl1c&index=1
>>129514991What do you think of the completions? Improvement, or you prefer listening to the three-movement versions?
>>129515009>applause after the first arialol is this normal? weirdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF5RbnwUkL4&list=OLAK5uy_lmmt1sBaB5deTnVNDodMX85DpptfGTl1c&index=5
>>129515021depends on my mood but whenever I listen to a completion it is Letocart's
>>129512868God put Collier on this earth to test our irritability.
>>129513186No. a gay retard with perfect pitch is still a gay retard.
>>129515048That's what a live performance of Italian opera sounds like. It's also one of those many elements of opera that Wagner hated and half-successfully purged from opera houses.
>>129515373I see. I usually stay away from this pirated, bootleg live performances, especially since there's applause after every aria lol. Good to know.
is there more classical like this, it is really beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0boaBa6QM
>>129515503You might also likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoENgt1h4_A
Can you guys recommend some sources to learn piano, youtube channels?
>>129515545https://www.reddit.com/r/pianolearning/wiki/index/
>>129514991>>129515021>>129515128Bruckner 9 is completed, Te Deum is the fourth movement as Bruckner himself wanted if he didnt live to finish it. Making it the best Choral symphony alongside Mahler's 8th and Beethoven's 9th
>>129515551did bro just unironically link reddit
>tfw have to be up in 6 hours>tfw have spent the last hour and a half switching between different recordings every 10 minutes because I can't find the right piece to fall asleep to tonightfuuug
>>129515565>Not having a premade sleep playlist
not replying to the moenime faggot directly but the Te Deum as the finale to Bruckner 9 is musically retarded because you'd need to transpose it to D first.
>>129515782Bruckner's conclusion with the Te Deum fits because ii-I is a type of plagal close.
Why does Brahms get so much hate? I've seen hate quotes posted about him by Tchaikovsky, Bruckner, Mahler, Wolf and now Verdi.
>>129515852I haven't the foggiest idea.
>>129515852I don't get it either. To me, disliking Brahms is like disliking Bach, Mozart, or Beethoven. I understand people have different opinions, and I can accept most any, but some composers are simply untouchable. I SUPPOSE there's a certain intellectual, artificiality to Brahms, but who gives a fuck, to me that only serves to differentiate him from Beethoven, not make him inferior. But I digress.
>>129515858>To me, disliking Brahms is like disliking Bach, Mozart, or Beethoven.So, normal?
>>129515884no, more like "utterly retarded to the point where you out yourself as not actually liking classical"
>>129515884I was actually thinking "deranged, and promptly and easily dismissed"
>>129515852Because he was a conservacuck. Romantic composers even before him were less conservacucks than him.He had good ear for motifs and harmony, that saved his embarrssingly cliché conservacuckism.>>129515886>>129515889More like "normal and individual", you twat.
>>129515893dismissed*does the waving away motion irl*
>>129515899*slaps your ugly face*
This Kubelik recording of Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande might be my favorite I've heard so far (note: YM doesn't have the Karajan recording, so I haven't heard it :( )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgtMNKVZG4I&list=OLAK5uy_nq0vgtC5wqjJHO6rd6sAiaIv3oTOXUdIc&index=9
>>129515893since your brain is clearly still in its infancy/developmental stages (as one can tell by your use of internet-exclusive slang) I won't bother reading your post to the end.
>>129515919Since you're too retarded to figure out what individual taste in music means, I'll just laugh at your post and pretend you're trolling and not actually a 60 IQ.
>>129513234having a bit of understanding of music helps, and it doesn't have to be all active listening and trying to decipher what exactly is going on
>>129515852You got to remember that at least half the posters here are regulars that have been here for years and post the same opinions in every thread
>>129515955This is why every ten threads or so I shift into a different character with new opinions and beliefs.
Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9QC_VUNrQ0
let's check theclassicreview and see what's new... oh, a new Schumann recording from Lugansky. Get it while it's hot!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t01QAuvI_eo&list=OLAK5uy_l55fLllk7jLHYFUc6gCxnpDJijs3XoK84&index=1reviewhttps://theclassicreview.com/album-reviews/review-schumann-fantasie-humoreske-faschingsschwank-aus-wien-nikolai-lugansky/
Scarlattihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjRJti9HP60
Seems like there's a lot of quality recordings of Wagner's Meistersinger (who's this Silvio Varviso with the really nice cover at Bayreuth?), which one do you guys recommend?
Bartokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiyLI5EnM8g
>>129516118Kubelik and Karajan both did great Meistersinger recordings.
Dvořák Violin Concerto best recording?
>>129515048In the good old days people would demand encores of particular arias right there in the middle of the opera.
>>129516324https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p0I7dTKqeU
>>129516275I went with Bohm for now but will listen to those two, thanks
>>129516333Meaning what, after an aria, they'd applaud and then ask them to sing it again? Or just as absurd, at the end of Act II, ask them to sing an aria from Act I again?
>>129516494The former.
>>129516517Wild. I know there are a few other examples of casualness like that. Something like during an opera (or was it plays?) people just be talking and moving around like a dinnerparty or something.
We haven't had any anecdote spam for a while. No one's come across any good ones lately? We've exhausted them all?
Liszthttps://youtu.be/Aol-HZKv78A?t=883
>>129513061Yeah, quite a few that are also shorter and less repetitive.
>>129516773Okay, Liszt them.
notation is an outdated system. It doesn't help you learn to play
>>129516805Me when I'm retarded
>>129516805Its needlessly elitist, there is no reason to use notation over waterfall mode
>>129516870Reading is also elitist. That's why I never learned to do it because I hate letters and prefer pictures. It's too complicated. Literacy and learning is very ableist and classist. It's even racist, actually.
Is 23 too old to learn piano
>>129516943At 23 you're already with one foot in the grave.
>>129516943You're same age as me, we should kiss
The Tchaikovsky-esque theme from 1st movement of Mahler 4 is sublime. But I don't like the development section, it's weird.
>>129516943Yes. Don't even bother starting.
>>129517218>>129516952Well thanks for being honest.
Why did the musical elite change the frequencies of the music? What did they not want us to unlock in our minds
>>129517431The higher you play on the violin, the more brilliant it sounds, and orchestral tuning is determined by the concert master, so the string sections of orchestras have slowly pushed concert pitch higher over the years.
Least fruity Liszt listenerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvsWk5TWtWM
>>129517058I love Mahler 4 so much. I really think it's underrated by both serious Mahler fans and casuals. It's so joyous and melodic, delightfully imaginative and spiritually uplifting. It's like Brahms 3, Schumann 3, or Tchaikovsky 4, but better. Yeah I said it.
>>129517431415 is goated because its like a half step lower and therefore compatible with modern ears
https://youtu.be/bcdS2hbpZcYFun fact, Andrés Segovia, one of the main early inspirations of Patrick O'Brien, the best death metal guitarist of all time.
For this morning's opera, we listen to Wagner's Die Meistersinger Von Nurnberg conducted by Karl Bohmiconic opening preludehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZnHpe6a2dg&list=OLAK5uy_kEJTTdpurDp5LSlMwwc09q6CrUsC2bd_8&index=2random vocal movementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0mvGIkR7G0&list=OLAK5uy_kEJTTdpurDp5LSlMwwc09q6CrUsC2bd_8&index=1one community reviewer enthusiastically proclaims the singer of the name Adam does a much better job here than they did on the Karajan recording of the same work. We shall see, it'll be fun to compare!
Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 30, Op. 109, is mind-blowingly sublime. Impossible to not love.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFKT6eyPNVs
Wagner fans, how would you rank his operas? and if there's any hardcore R. Strauss fans here who can do a ranking of his operas too, that'd be dope. I'm pretty sure I saw one once.
RIP Éliane Radigue
>chopin's mazurkas:/>chopin's piano sonatas:|>chopin's etudes:)>chopin's preludes:D>chopin's nocturnes:O
>>129517992Oh, she's the composer of that Trilogie De La Mort album. I remember listening to that when I was an avant-teen RYMsister. She have anything else worthwhile? Is she even actually classical?any RIP
>>129517992>>129518036anyway* RIP
>>129516943Fuck these faggots, no it isn't. Learn piano for you.
>>129517956Keep your baldcuck garbage to yourself, lass.
>>129518019>piano sonatas>:|You don't like Chopin at all.
>>129518036If you like drone with classical instruments. I just find her music very meditative.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAWBuyzPwvg
>>129518109There's only three positive smileys available to me, it had to go somewhere! And it definitely ranks below the Etudes for me. I've never quite loved them. They've never clicked for me as masterpieces. Maybe someday.
>>129516324to be honest it's not a work where i've ever thought there was a recording head-and-shoulders above the rest. there's a handful of great ones, and a bunch of pretty good ones.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiHr40XXtHs&list=OLAK5uy_kSK2NFPnxuKtS48iBHnBiar7DGNJkt-wM&index=12
>tfw no Madama Butterfly Maria Callas gfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0F7x8Z40c8&list=OLAK5uy_mVEI6flJtPk1J_ayVsQ34tX6piKFNQYXc&index=16
>>129517431conspiracy theorists are my most hated group of people by far
>>129516118Sawallisch for sure
>>129518361Because they are right about everything
>>129518957yeah dude chemtrails and shit bro
>>129519297nobody likes a know it all
why are mozarts concertos good but all his other instrumental work boring af
>>129519343dumb people don't like know-it-alls because they feel insecure around them
>>129519382>>129519382hate to embarrass you in front of your girl buthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nMq5_rCtgI
>>129519382>mozart symphonies, serenades, piano sonatas, violin sonatas, quartets, fucking QUINTETS>boringYou can always say they sound too joyful, too delicate, but NOT boring (referring to late Mozart primarily).
Any pieces from the past 25 (easy mode: 50) years that aren't retreads of past periods, nor hyper-formal academic nonsense? Or is classical doomed to be a toolbox for popular music instead of an artistic force in itself?
>>129519800A competent retread would be welcome change
>>129519800https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0HtSP0ARuo
>>129519800https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqtYe_17YYohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYw5hfzH1KMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7p7Br6Qr-Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3271RinJ3cchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBlVARagiSk
i used to think microtonal was a dead end until i heard Nicola Vicentino's 31 tone compositions. some truly beautiful music
>scriabin's mazurkas:D>scriabin's piano sonatas:O>scriabin's etudes:O>scriabin's preludes:O>scriabin's nocturnes:)
>bach choral:(>bach organ:/>bach solo violin/cello:|>bach concerti:)>bach keyboard:D>bach unspecified, 4 staves (aka the art of fugg):O
>>129520616>bach organ>bach keyboard
>>129520621Other keyboards were implied
>>129520635Which bach gets you :3
>beethoven at his worst:(>beethoven at his best :)>beethoven:|
>>129520616Praise Bach's chorale music or else...
>>129518019>waltzes :')
>>129513061Meh starting 1:40. Dropped.
>>129519800https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9C0DBVr_k
can we stop this gay emoji posting?
>>129522593:O
>>129522932is that you getting ready to suck a cock?
>>129523103:3
>>129518019Honestly ya but throw in the Waltzes above Etudes.
>tfw sick>tfw literally been listening to the same piece over and over for the past 12 hours because I keep falling asleep over and over -- wake up, revert back to the part I last remember, press play, fall asleep, repeat, repeat, repeatfug, it's a narcoleptic music day
>>129523580bolero
>Medtner's Piano Quintet:)>Medtner's Songs:)>Medtner's Violin Sonatas:))>Medtner's Forgotten Melodies:D>Medtner's Fairy Tales:D>Medtner's Piano Sonatas:O>Medtner's Piano Concertos:^O>Medtner's Symphony:(...)
>>129525037Only hacks can't write symphonies. Many such cases.
>>129525037There's nothing of his you don't like?
>>129525111his Operas are disappointing
speaking of Medtner, just came across thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjo1ScHLhAo&list=OLAK5uy_mlKW9B7AE2ejc5Cl8I5zndMaFvPtAGwyk&index=1>Vittorio Forte immersed himself in Medtner’s music during the lockdowns of 2020, finding both solace and joy in getting to know this unfamiliar but exceptional music. The Muse takes its name from one of Medtner’s songs to words by Pushkin, and this release concludes with Forte’s own transcription of this piece. Medtner stands alongside Rachmaninov and Scriabin as among the foremost Russian composers of his time. Like them, Medtner’s output grew out of his formidable abilities as a pianist and thorough understanding of the instrument’s expressive range. Even so, he did not indulge in virtuosity for the sake of showmanship, but produced highly complex scores as a means of articulating his very particular vision. The release begins with Medtner’s Forgotten Melodies, Op. 38. The opening theme of the nostalgic ‘Sonata reminiscenza’ is used by Medtner to unify the other movements, especially the concluding ‘Alla reminiscenza’, and between these pieces comes a series of songs and dances of varying moods. Each of Medtner’s Four Lyrical Fragments Op. 23 occupies a distinct, often poignantly beautiful soundworld, representing another remarkable instance of the breadth of his invention. At the heart of the album we hear Medtner’s Skazki or Fairy Tales, Op. 51, which are remarkably fine and deserving of a much wider audience. On hearing the pieces at a private performance, Rachmaninov praised the Skazki, declaring that ‘Kolya’ was peerless in his ability to tell tales in music. Both Medtner and Rachmaninov composed a setting of Pushkin’s ‘Muza’ dedicated to the Armenian writer and activist Marietta Shaginyan. Medtner responds to Pushkin’s paean to the beloved muse with a fluid melody and delicious harmonies, which have been elaborated and enriched in Vittorio Forte’s transcription.
Bach's Joy of Cumming in Mans Desire
>>129525167lol
Been trying to Gouldmaxx, bought myself a big tweed coat and wear gloves everywhere I go. Ive also started humming along to music.What other habits should I acquire
>>129525213be racist to anyone who isn't a WASP and pop fifty pills every day.
>>129525213whistle 12-tone rows when you're out buying groceries.
Putting frets onto guitars ruined its credibility of ever becoming a serious instrument
>>129525319>implying guitarists deserved credibility and respect to begin with.
>>129525324Because they play on fretted instruments. There is a reason why violinists are far more respected
>>129525324Uhh, yes they do. Not the rockist guitarists though.>>129525319Why?
I'm really liking this one
>>129525389They parodied this in FF7
>>129525425I don't get it. That's where the Nibelung mine the gold?
>>129525389>Labroca [the head of RAI] matched Furtwängler, his finest RAI musicians and many of the greatest Wagner singers of the Vienna State Opera, taping both dress rehearsals and live concert performances, where audience members were vetted for coughs and noisy late-comers.lol>As Mike Ashman explains in his informative booklet essay, whilst Furtwängler was to choose which recordings would be later broadcast, Rheingold, Walküre Act III, Siegfried Act II and Götterdämmerung Acts I and III were in fact broadcast live. Following Furtwängler’s death EMI’s David Bicknell tried to license the RAI Ring so a complete Furtwängler cycle could be issued. However contractual barriers prevented issue on LP until 1971 when critic Deryck Cooke famously declared Furtwängler’s Ring was the “greatest gramophone event of the century”. damn>EMI remastered the cycle for a 1990 CD issue and now reissue the cycle in a slimline box set with improved cover design, presumably redolent of the industrious Nibelungs, for the 125th anniversary of the great conductor’s birth. The transformative elements of Furtwängler's conducting bear upon the listener’s inner life through dramatic force. These are timeless and sound totally fresh after almost sixty years: a rich bass-up orchestral palette, cumulative architecture over large spans, rhythmic grip and narrative heart. This is all in the service of Wagner’s opera. Gone are concepts imposed upon the music, be they Solti’s upbeat excitability, Goodall’s beautifully blended longueurs or Böhm’s forward-leaning lightness. Furtwängler is probably closest to Keilberth in deserving the label ‘natural’ but is infinitely more exciting.well said
>>129525213Sit on a tiny rickety wooden chair and ruin your back.
Franckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n6p4zF8KMU
>tfw no Maria Callas Tosca gfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mmzW3sm1kE&list=OLAK5uy_mX9Was8ZTyd2SBjqp-PC0sX8hFmpccwF8&index=5
Grieghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDgl_OLwCg
Thread as dead as Ed
>>129527421Inevitable consequence of the relentless, endless spamwars. Pushes posters away.
the brahmsfog has descended upon my neighborhood, fug
>>129525213Play with more passion than anyone else Stop giving a fuck about what others thinkDonate your estate to the local animal shelter when you die
>>129527444Blame Hector
>>129509307>men are unhappyevery "unhappy" man I've ever spoken to (who is generally and consistently unhappy and not just currently unhappy) has been an utter fucking loser. everyone of them is unhappy from their total lack of properly developed real life skills coupled with their total laziness to search for real life, non-online ways to better themselves
>>129527811cringe "everyone suffering and unhappy deserves it"-anon
>>129527811Please don't call me out like this.
>>129527590I notified the karma angels, yes.
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHY9tw4LSik&list=OLAK5uy_mPbty31654xLaVxCzaRaww9AWX_1QfcUk&index=30
sorry karajanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFDnGAKkOa0&list=OLAK5uy_nPTRYIUgKyMQmwppi-KtW9xKTrCysVMHY&index=1sorry bohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwaX1PhcyI4&list=OLAK5uy_nZPSHwVIZEGL7ndk-BUQngRwwc9kVzIH0&index=1the boxy mono sound is too much for meinstead kempe is my friend todayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfAsKmf2c8c&list=OLAK5uy_l2bZr-JypCkACsvr1hBLjiOemaIojM4Uo&index=1
Scriabinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7RNbzKJULg
I love Brahms and Fauré.
>>129527421On the flip, one could say we were due for a slow down. Many an afternoon a year and a half ago where the only posts were one each from me and the sisterposter that were functionally bumps. Looks like we're back to that.
now playingstart of Schumann: Concerto for Cello and Orchestra in A Minor, Op. 129https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJcCs1Ve238&list=OLAK5uy_n_qrDbkH8a2YBYnPN5AP5g5iIZR6jqBJ8&index=2Schumann: Adagio for Cello and Orchestra in G Major, Op. 38https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsmhm8RdJDo&list=OLAK5uy_n_qrDbkH8a2YBYnPN5AP5g5iIZR6jqBJ8&index=7start of Schumann: Fantasiestücke, Op. 73https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMsCYNhjarw&list=OLAK5uy_n_qrDbkH8a2YBYnPN5AP5g5iIZR6jqBJ8&index=8Schumann: Mass in C Minor, Op. 147: Offertoriumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIGWKTRcWk&list=OLAK5uy_n_qrDbkH8a2YBYnPN5AP5g5iIZR6jqBJ8&index=17plus a few other pieceshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_qrDbkH8a2YBYnPN5AP5g5iIZR6jqBJ8Always love these kinds of all-cello recordings.
>>129529484The weirdness of this cover is blowing my mind. It's almost vaporwave-esque.
>>129527811"winning" in life comes at the expense of other people and I feel guilty for it. What do you have to say about that, bozo?
As a complete classical music pedestrian who knows nothing about the history or intricacies, Scriabin is the best composer of all time
havent heard a single good mozart piece
Post contemporary compositions. Is everyone itt Asian?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0xcv-mFIvo
>>129530430https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_LbbA1IQA0
>>129530430https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFEBkLThFkM
How can I get my compositions recognized?
>>129530229try not being deaf
>>129531419Get orchestras and conductors and musicians to perform it. Some reviews would then help.
>>129529427He fucked more girls than Brahms too, a total chad
Stravinskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHG0rio2dXo
>>129527929>Bach>It's actually Glenn Gould
I fucking love music
>>129532000We do things a little differently from the underclass musical traditions
>>129532010>Average Gould enjoyer
die walkure -> siegfried -> tristan und isolde, boom the day is over
brahms
>>129527455some octave figurations just flew over my house.
>>129507398uhhh, based department?
>>129532083I'm sorry anon, but it looks like you have late stage Wagneromania.
Who is the most bland and boring classical composer?
>>129534366Czerny
>>129534380Okay, will give him a listen!
>>129534464try Sechter too.
Why don't they put frets on the violin/cello
>>129535017The frets would have to be so close together that it would be pretty much impossible to play the instrument, at least for the violin.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In8QC64jx5M
Never heard Chopin before, where do I start
>>129535178>>>/lgbt/
>>129535223How'd you know what my mainboard is lul wut
>>129535106Never been to church before but I want to go to see what psalms they play. Do any of you guys know what setlist they have going?
>>129535256fuck off.
>>129535178Sonatas 2, 3, ballades, scherzi, concerti, nocturnes, etudes, waltzes, preludes
I get why atonality emerged but it just doesn't sound good. Why throw everything out the window just to be contrarian
>>129534161>does the work contain themes>"idk beats me here is the principal theme of the whole work" HOLY CHAD
>>129535563Its not exclusively contrarian
