I like a lot of the 80s hardcore. Black Flag, No Trend. They were smart, curious, experimental, had interest in other art. Now any band that calls themselves hardcore is guaranteed to be some of the gayest, most formulaic, sanitized garbage. It sounds like they're more influenced by nu metal than real hardcore.
>>129521151Hardcore is 40 years old. It's all been done. No one with an ounce of creativity wants to do what's been done. The well is dry. You might as well be asking why The Simpsons isn't good anymore.
>>129521151Thats the same with all genres. The only good music out there is being made by passionate musicians who have no medium to deliver it to the masses. Literal who’s probably sitting on 10/10 and they will never know it
>>129521198Techno is 40 years old, house is 40 years old, even rap at 50 years old has some interesting things in the underground...
>>129521211Techno and House are electronic and therefor have a lot more options for sound design than Metal.
>>129521211Hardcore is an extremely limited genre by comparison. Techno and rap are about as broad as rock.
>>129521251True it's more limited but at it's core it's just heavy rock music, and 80s bands were doing far more to expand it than any of the shit today.
>>129521223>confusing hardcore with metalsilence, beatbabby
>>129521198>Hardcore is 40 years oldCloser to 50
>>129521151There was this guy named Ian mackaye...it's a long story
Knocked Loose is the best hardcore band of all time
>>129521151This was the only hardcore album worth giving a damn about in the 80's, then maybe Minor Threat, Husker Du, and Bad Brains.Black Fag is corny dad shit
>>129522830Good picks. I think of Vs. as the first post-hardcore album.
>>129522830Mission of Burma were never considered a hardcore band. Even when they played on hardcore bills in Boston, they were disliked. See the reactions from SSD and Negative FX.
Mogs.
>>129521151>>129521151Gotta dig deep for the great stuff today big dawg check out 11pm records, iron lung records, rebirth records or fortress records or youth attack for some great modern hc bands
>>129521198Sadly this. Rock is done being rebellious.
>>129522830>This was the only hardcore album worth giving a damn about in the 80'sIt better send Give Thanks home on a stretcher.
>>129524661It does not. Doesn't even leave a bruise.
>>129524661>Give Thanksby Articles of Faith?
I only care about hardcore made between the years 1978 and 1984.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHBQMPNess0
>>129521151This is your average modern hardcore fan, from a recent post on r/hardcoreIt's weird. When I first got interest in the scene in the mid 00s, it was almost exclusively jock dudes. A sea of camo shorts and physically fit dudes with pent up aggression. Gay, yes. But it felt... Well, hardcore. It was just angry dudes releasing pent up frustration. Nowadays, it's full of teenage girls and picrel. Fat, dysgenic losers who decided to make hardcore their life because they started saying "hardcore is for everyone," or some other stupid Redditesque inclusivity phrase (Except if you don't mirror their beliefs 100%, then YOU don't belong). And so overtime it just became the biggest faggots on the internet who desperately want to appear tough to strangers. Even though they don't actually come off that way Idk, I still love the hardcore I've always enjoyed. But it sucks knowing there's really nothing it has to bring to the table anymore. Everythings been done, it's just a scene for 20-somethings to have a friend group. I guess it serves its purpose, but it no longer speaks to me.
>>129522814Shit take.
>>129525881When you first got interested in it, it was already trash.
>>129526387Agreed. But I was a kid. I get the appeal to suburban white kids like myself, coming-of-age, not really having anything to say but still yelling it at the top of your lungs. Like most people, I grew out of it rather quickly. At least, I thought most people.Maybe it's always been like this, but it fucking weirds me out seeing 30 something or older dudes trying to be "hardcore" online or to strangers at shows. It seems more performative than ever, but maybe that's just because every retard has Internet access now.Point is, it's a genre for the youth. People who stick to it as they age are usually stuck in arrested development (assuming they're not touring and making money off it). Yes, that goes for people that complain it doesn't sound like it did in the 80s as well. Being proud that you don't keep up with trends, and stick to an old one, is equally as faggy.
The OG 80s guys had other influences they combined into hardcore. Nu hardcore is just guys listening to 80s hardcore. In short it became inbred over time.
>>129525881Punk wasn't gate kept hard enough, and bands thought that maybe if they tried "muh inclusivity", they'd make more money without necessarily selling out.
