Previous >>129581564 300 Edition.>BANG BANG MVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qkpcLK422o>BLACKHOLE MVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lmy7qwmSMc>REVIVE+ Promo Contenthttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeOc-jkyE0Gi5y4pdBWMThhlHAKflpDFZ>Upcoming Schedule03.21-22 IVE The 4th Fan Concert>Fan Account Listpastebin.com/2sJmjcfC>Video Contentwyhotchoco.wixstudio.com/iveland-6x.com/shrghkqud(_sub4/6)x.com/midwinter0767x.com/Watora_>Webwww.ive-starship.com>X.comx.com/IVEstarshipx.com/IVE_twtx.com/STARSHIPentx.com/IVEstarship_JPx.com/STARSHIPent_jp>TikTok/Douyinwww.tiktok.com/@ive.officialv.douyin.com/iBudkX1t/>Youtubewww.youtube.com/@IVEstarshipwww.youtube.com/@STARSHIP_official>Weiboweibo.com/u/7717893941>bilibilispace.bilibili.com/3546837942274544/www.bilibili.com/video/BV1XSfnYKEEd/>Instagramwww.instagram.com/ivestarship/www.instagram.com/officialstarship/www.instagram.com/_yujin_an/www.instagram.com/fallingin__fall/www.instagram.com/reinyourheart/www.instagram.com/for_everyoung10/www.instagram.com/liz.yeyo/www.instagram.com/eeseooes/www.instagram.com/minivestarship/>Merchshop.ive-starship.comwww.iveofficialshop.com>SK News Agency Feedspastebin.com/4exNVSJA***Thread rule: lewding IVE girls is public admission your mom's a diseased whore.***
threadly reminder that jang wonyoung is an unlikable bogged diseased whore
Who else is going for their concert?I really can't fucking wait
>>129598366True, but I'm still scared thinking that she really likes being this skinny.
>>129598436I mean compared to old liz?Yeah no shit. Old liz would easily be the least popular member atm and have 0 CFs.
>>129598449Yep. I get that but going full on skinny is not great either.
>>129598455Hoping and praying.If Wonyoung can put on weight, so can Liz.
>>129598473Amen.Man the Thicky Vicky days were glorious.
>>129598473just a little fat in the right places please
>>129598504>>129598504Basically back to this Lizhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxFLgWoEM40This is basically perfection
>>129598435you erased yujin lol
>>129598368wooooo
>>129598523yes but keep thé succubus lenses
did ive win?
>>129598581Blackpink vs H2HSo no IVE
>>129598536And in august marks 2 years of this. Kinda crazy.
>>129598535lol indeed, retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlDAs1KSno
is this ive's first time releasing against blackpink?their first time with their weakest work. unfortunate.
>>129598588wait what
>>1295983683 hunnid basadissimo
>>129598642The first thread was made august 9th 2024.
>>129598588time flies when ur having fun
>>129598613After Like vs Pink Venom.After Like got PAKs while Pink Venom largely flopped.
>>129598385Me if they ever announce the date
>>129598689What country?
>>129598698Burgerland sadly
>>129598700No way they skip burgerland. Tix prices might be cooked tho.
wony is looking mega cute in the new jim beam ads
>>129598385I would if I could SA Leeseo I would.Otherwise I wouldn't. Ive's music is awful even in terms of k-pop standards.
>>129598731That's not really very informative
>>129598385>>129598689same, usa
>>129598731>book found in library
>>129598750Don't let your dreams be dreams anon
>>129598750>I've>awfulAt least you are a little more subtle but that isn't saying muchBye bye guys I be going out with a bang until the trolls are tired
>>129598368almost 100k posts
>>129598368soon we'll reach 100,000 posts without having to scroll through kpg retardation, only 1-2 low-impact shitposters
>>129598800all that cortisol that didn't spike. big W
>>129598766all he can do is dream like the pungent third worlder he iskpops dont go to delhi
>>129598842>>129598864My Goddess.
>>129598602Our beautiful super genius>>129598713Yeah I'm sure they won't, I meant this place is a shithole lol>>129598731Post em
>>129598887>I meant this place is a shithole lolWhat? LA?
300th thread, congrats to all divechads here. Hopefully these 6 beautiful, lovely girls keep making music, and our lives a little bit better. I love IVE so fucking much.
>>129598895Nah America, richest third world country>>129598899Holy based, same to you brother. Here's to many more years of IVE
>>129598899based
>>129598887https://x.com/jimbeam_kr/status/2029484637421269244
>>129598899>>129598912I really dread the day Yujin decides she wants to act.
>>129598887>>129598916i just saw it on my yt homepage so i'll link that toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohqqj9jZGwQ
>>129598965thats a dashing diva
>>129598923wony brought them together
>>129598916>>129598923>>129598965Omomomomo, how does she do it bros>>129599092She's too powerful...
Nominating Wony for Nobel Peace Prize
i hate this site
>>129599109>>129599097Hotties
kekexif orientation
fucking ozzies
inside joke i guess
upsive down
>>129599442wony bringing my mouth and her mouth together next
>>129599391cute
>>129599494
>>129599488No, mine, I'll fight you>>129599494>>129599507Smoooooch
one for the chess nerds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlDAs1KSno
It was already posted
that aint chess
she's playing "be hot as fuck" and she's winnning
>>129599545What is it?
>6 beautifulugleeseo too? the visual hole? I think not
>>129599526the woman she beat here is a lawyermaybe tokkis can ask gaeul to save newjeans
>>129599776tokkindians don't deserve help
>>129599776brutal
>>129598800Total IVE victory
leeseo might not be the best looking, but she's far from ugly. she has the most consistent natural beauty since debut.the diseased whore looks more different and bogged with each new year.
>>129599806Yujin is 100% natty
>>129599958so mature looking these days
>>129599985yet she still wants to sit on the other girls' laps for another 9 years
>>129600014Based
>>129599980gaeul too
>>129599985she's styled more maturely these days, nothing new
shes pretty much the perfect mix of cute and hoti cant think of any other idol that comes close
is our gamer girl liz enjoying pokopia?it's peak comfy
One last stage for blackhole, then two more stages of bang bang and then that's it for music shows. Still havent worn the outfits from the bang bang vid they shot in the ring. So maybe for inkigayo.
also, between winds and waves, we're all picking the same thing right?
>>129600550W inA llV eryE asily
>>129599980lmao
w a v eI see you're falling deep for mebaby yes I'm all you'll needride the cake cake cake cake cakesometimes sometimes
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ReDYKLmc_jocutting members out makes that member sad, so don't do this
ot5 perpetrators need to be hanged
word
>>129599711ranking them based on tightness:Gaeul > Liz > Rei > Leeseo > Yujin
>>129601009i get such a dopamine rush at the thought of wonyoung getting upset from my posts lol
how sad
Why didn't anyone share the Chainsaw Man Jane Doe cover by Lizhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq08y9ebFQs
>dopaminegreat solo but this isn't the aespa thread
lollmao even
idek what that is
>>129601484thank you for this, shitty youtube wouldn't recommend this to me
>>129601484i did and you missed it >>129469512
>>129601484she is not a good singer. her vibrato is always so forced and amateurish. and she annoyingly strains it out after ever line.I guess she's good for an asian, but there tons of actual good asian singers. but liz gets away with being acclaimed as a good singer because standards for asian singers are so low.
Don't reply to me retard>>129601587You're welcome>>129601597Ah I see, it didn't come up in the archive search but I searched the full URL rather than the video ID
don't post subpar shit, retard
>>129599526the smug look that starts at 3:03 is so fucking good
>don't post IVE content in this IVE thread
well what kind of place isn't open to valid criticisms
I don't think it was for that anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFlNM63Fp4chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIsQVjHMghM
>>129602107stupid fuck choreographers really need to keep the backup dancers behind them at all times, stage is already crowded as it isdont know why thy started to force them in there after xoxz
>>129599711gaeuls p…
>>129601303lmao based
>>129602279too pretty, no wonder she has so many ads
gaeul drives me crazy
:P
Softened a bit but that's alright, good pic>inb4 i saw that
saw that
Everyone saw that.
>>129602601>>129602703are you the faggot wony anti?
hes not
Let's chill with the paranoia.>>129602786WOAAAAH
How do you even make that mistake lol>>129602736>>129602748Shut up, nice Gaeul though
>>129602856Brainfarts happen to the best of us.
>>129602794not even full power
>>129602906What is full power Leeseo then?
isos fat thighs crushing my head
oi my head only>>129602958i dont have a definitive answer but not one with silly clip on bangs
>>129602890Still there was nothing in my post to indicate that>>129602958He probably means without bangs
>faggotthe obsession with my sexuality is funny. this is an ive thread, it makes sense for gays and girls to be here. why bring attention to the fact that you're a straight grownass failure of a man?
>>129603083>>129603110Damn, I didn't even notice the bangs.
>>129603146Will you finally get out and travel to Sao Paulo for this tour
>>129603110You deleted and repost. That troll does that a lot.
>>129603110>>129603146also a little meatier but other than that shes almost always near full power anywayespecially in a nice dress like at GDA
>>129603160Nope. It's just not something I would do (and I'm poor obviously).>>129603180Yea hard to disagree with that.
>>129603211Dang...>>129603180She seems like the optimal weight already
>and I'm poor obviouslytypical pathetic incel
fat Liz posting, we refrain from doing that here
>>129603222yea im not complaining i still love her either way, thickseo is nice too though
>>129603317Sheesh...
>>129603317post her leg lift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mT4e-63NlUpretty liz
comfyseo
>>129601687It's the reverse. What you think is good is actually what most vocal coaches think is bad. But it is what is taught to almost all kpop trainees and so common that you think it is the norm. So listen to what multiple vocal coaches have said about IVE singing. Almost all of them mention that Liz sings differently from how Kpop vocals are taught to sing by the company.
I just did spaghetti mouth choreo
Wrong thread retards
>>129603778this is what I think is goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICDe4_iB41sthis singer's vibrato comes out smooth, buttery. liz's is a poor imitation. listen specifically to 3:10-3:30, liz couldnt wish to do that in her wildest dreams.it make sense that kpop vocal coaches tell trainees not to sing like that because they sound bad when they try.michael jackson was the same. he was a world renowned phenomenon, but his voice was pretty shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NYDgbKsBEsame grating forced vibrato.
>>129598382Word.
>>129604003Leona Lewis is one of the best singers in the 00s. Might as well start pulling out the Adele clips now. FYI Liz sings with similar technique to IU so you probably think IU forces her vibrato and is bad when it is clearly a different singing texture.
>>129603798based
<=== bogged whore
>>129604042a mark singer is one that knows their limits. IU reminds of lana del rey. neither are particularly talent, but both a skilled in how they utilize what they have.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXaOUXVawN4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDhiFs9_OW4listen to how both sing the word lover. iu is tactful, liz strains out a vibrato. I should say liz sounds pretty throughout the song, but in some parts, she tries to be something she's not and it ruins the whole thing.
>>129604236I thought her name was Rei...
oh a perfect example is heya's pre-chorus.wony's is the better version. wony is not trying to be something she's not, and it sounds great. you can literally hear liz trying to be a "singer" and it's just comes off worse.
>>129604254>neither are talented>both are skilled
<--- friendless loser
Liz can hit high notes. She can do it the Kpop company way which is to hit it clean off the top. She chooses to add texture and then hit the notes clean at the top. It is a stylistic choice for her. She isn't straining. She isn't bad. If you dislike this style, that is your opinion. If you think she is bad, then you are moronic. Again there are plenty of vocal coaches aka people who knows their shit reacting to Kpop vocals on YouTube, go watch them before you comment on "skill" or "talent"
so yea I was looking at pics of ive and thinking they're all absolutely beautifuljust thought I'd mention it
>>129604511>clean at the topmy whole point is that it's not clean. it's forced and grating. whether you claim that's artistic texture, it still sounds like shit.michael jackson's same "texture" sounds like shit. any of that kpop standard you're falling back on, is also shit. I've said this before, but it's an asian thing. there are far fewer good asain vocalists than there are for ethnicities. and the main problem is that mediocre vocalists are praised to be great when they're not, and that further establishes low standards for asians.if anybody in the west argued that lana del rey was a great vocalist, they would be laughed at. but koreans regard liz as a 4th gen top vocalist, when she's garbage by western standards.
Even love dive era Liz?
>>129604761You clearly don't know what you are talking about. No point listening to your garbage.
>>129604776your main argument was whatever online vocal couches say she's good, so she must be good. an appeal to authority fallacy.i've posted examples, you can hear it for yourself. it's not rocket science.you've already implied leona and adele are too far greater vocalists than liz. so I know for a fact you can hear the difference in talent. you're just excusing liz's lack of real talent as "texture".
No more meme hair for Rei
>>129604854Good. One step closer to the all 6 with dark hair.
>>129604850My main argument is that I listen to vocal coaches react to Kpop idols because I work a boring desk job so I put on these videos in the background as I work.They give their opinions and why they think she is good.The alternative is listening to a rando on the internet tell me she is bad.Wow that is such a hard decision to make. Clearly you with your expertise in listening to top 40 pops outstrips actual paid vocal coaches.If listening to experts on a topic is appeal to authority fallacy, what is the opposite called where you listen to a random nugu over experts? Retardation?
>>129604850Appeal to authority fallacy is when listen to an expert give his opinion on an unrelated topic. I.e. My doctor told me to invest in this stock, surely he must be right.
but it works when music producers appeal to the expertise of shamans for business and creative advice
>>129604899you're just blathering on with an appeal to authority fallacy. clearly you don't know what that is. try and educate yourself a bit, retard.
>>129604933Shamans are in the area of divination so technically their expertise is talking to the spirits. Just make sure the spirits are the experts.
>>129604922these online "coaches" he's referring of no real credentials. they're randos themselves reacting to whatever kpop shit that appeals to their followers.
>>129604955>of no have no
>>129604941>Try educate yourselfYes. I try to educate myself by listening to experts on the topic. But apparently that is appeal to authority. So how should I educate myself? Listen to you?
>>129604950they can't talk to any dead experts of shitty 2000s music because they're all in hell
>>129604955And what are your credentials?
>>129604966Why not?
>>129604978idk gypsy i'm just making fun of your life and beliefs
>>129605011A shaman is indirectly the reason IVE is the #1 group so I won't make fun of a shaman.
>>129604966hell doesn't exist
>>129604970>you don't have credentials so you have to agree with what i saycan you see how circular that logic is, dumbass?
liz is ive's best vocalist. wony is a worthless piece of shit. it's not that serious
>>129605048Errmmm. Yes. This is how the world normally works. We should be listening to experts on their subject matter.
I'm an expert in several fields of non-serious study and unprovable knowledgeI can't even prove that statementhowever, you should trust my opinion
>>129605063ok to play along with your bullshit, my expert vocal coaches in the west will laugh off your online kpop reactors.but i don't even need them. I can your own words as testimony.you tried to run from it, but i'll post it again.>you've already implied leona and adele are too far greater vocalists than liz. so I know for a fact you can hear the difference in talent. you're just excusing liz's lack of real talent as "texture"
i love it when online losers act like experts in a field
>>129605100I don't take their words at face value retard.I watch multiple different vocal coaches react to Kpop videos. They explain their thought process. They explain the techniques. They explain what the idols are doing. They explain what is good and what is bad.Even if I transcribed their videos and put it side by side your post while removing who wrote which, I still won't agree with your ass posts due to a lack of details compared to theirs. Hope this helps.
>>129605140You know you lost the plot when you resort to hyberbole. And yes this is the proper use of hyberbole instead of your wrong use of appeal to authority.
>>129605142I'm an expert on those losers
>>129605169really? then what am I doing right now?
>>129605156the acclaim your shit experts have your liz is the same level acclaim the west has for leona.why is it an hyperbole to compare the two?
>>129605187Beating your meat to Rei
>>129605169are you a straight male dive?
>>129605196bzzzzt! the correct answer is "loving IVE"
>>129605192They didn't say that.I didn't say that.You lost the plot.
>>129605209So I am correct.
>>129605210your backpedaling doesnt make sense.
>>129605220Quote me faggot.
>>129605192aspirated ha hyperbole* you lose
>>129605223>>129604042>Leona Lewis is one of the best singers in the 00s. Might as well start pulling out the Adele clips now.so we both think leona (and adele by extension) is a far better vocalist than liz. there is no hiding that now.
>>129605269Yes. Leona and Adele are better. I never said Liz was better or even equivalent. The fact you can't quote me saying that while saying bs like >>129605192 is fucking retarded.
christina aguilera chad please come back
erotic feet
>>129605296yeji mogs everyone in this thread
>>129604326>oh a perfect example is heya's pre-chorus.>wony's is the better version.I have always felt this. Might be my bias but I think she really does sound better.
>>129605354Wony is a good singer but she has a low register. When they allow her to sing in that range, she really shines. The issue is that her image doesn't mix with that of low register singer cause Kpop so SSE makes her sing higher.
>>129605380but her heya prechorus is in a high falsetto
>>129605410https://youtube.com/shorts/QqpKU-k9XdA
>>129605448she sounds good, but thats not a low register in either clip, retard.something like her voice in satisfaction is a low register
>>129605494The closer she sings to her natural voice, the better she is.
both clips are practically identical. your point could have been that her live vocals is able to match the studio recording, and that would have made a lot more sense
Leeseo and Gaeul are the weakest singers in IVE Yujin and Rei are the 2 most versatile Wonyoung is good but not great Liz is their main vocalist
reminder that only Liz and Yujin sing the entire chrous of I Am
are wonycucks really running with their shit idol being a better singer than liz?? how deranged and pathetic.or they're probably just mad liz is objectively the better visual now.
Wony sings better than Liz.
idk about singing but wony, an absolute princess in attitude and demeanor having such a deep regular voice does things to me on a deep level
>>129605526wonycucks are fucking retards. nothing but goon brainrot mush in their heads
great sternocleidomastoids
>>129606010this looks like an innocent picture but real ones know this was taken by a pit focused fansite for fun and mostly profit
>>129606100I used to know a dude who is now a professional fansite for Triple S. It is creepy af.
happy 300th /ive/!
>>129606126we're really still here
https://kick.com/wonyoung-gallery
>>129606415is that wony anti with the blue hair and yellow top at the front
bang bang 5th win woooo
>>129605021but IVE was already #1 with or without shamans
>>129605697In the way a Miata is a better roadster than a Jaguar FType is a grand tourer yeah, Wonyoung is a better singer.Listening to piercing high notes is fun and impressive and all but it gets tiresome
Happy 300, fags, almost missed it.
>>129606849Let's be honest, I love IVE. I will never stop loving IVE. If Newjeans didn't self destruct, they would be number 1. Easily.
>>129606976nice try newjeet
>>129605307even if it was prime yeji that wouldnt be true lol
>>129607022I been following ive since pd48. I can even show the screenshot I took when I voted for Yujin on pd48. If IVE flopped and was turbo nugu, I would still follow them. I like they are #1 but I don't care even if they were not.
>>129606841how many is that now? like 80?
>>129606976but they self destructed, like you said, contrary to ive, who, in fact, did not self destruct
>>129607036and based on what would jewgenes be above IVE. I AM was better than shitto and only lost due to 4 months less of tracking.And that's with the litetal millions fatman spent on playlisting and youtube ads.
>>129607039Its crazier even, IVE has an average of 180 PAK's per year (900 in 5 years)IU (most PAK's ever at around 1800) averages about 95 or soIVE is only 12 behind BTS too btw
>>129607042Newjeans self destructed due to a shaman which is why IVE retains #1.
>>129607051smoochiecute phone case
>>129607039cuties
>>129607063they hated garam for this
>>129607048Streaming and sales and HYBE money.Mostly HYBE money, LSF is able to pretend to be a big group because of HYBE money.
>>129606849let's be real now
>>129607067they hated garam because she dropped an anvil on someones head
SSE gave IVE shitty outfits so people will watch Kiki fancams instead
well, it's working. i dont bother watching perfs with only long pants
back to being a jap cutie, succubus era over
sse nerfed rei this cb with meme hairstyles because she was getting too strong
its working as long as you dont check the views
>>129607080>>129607039still pits and tight bottoms, could be worse
i need to see bare thighs. simple as
>>129607069streaming is a function of playlisting not music. jewgenes sales were always under IVE.so you're retarded
>>129607082natty rei>gyaru rei>>>>>>>>>>pink rei
office romance with this exact Rei
>>129607082Why did she even go for pink? This is so much better.
>>129607098I am not going to bother arguing. They are dead now, IVE is #1 so I am happy.
Not totally dead unfortunately.
Effectively dead. MHJ was the genius behind their music. If we removed 2 members from IVE, they would be dead too.
>>129607056old PAKs were way harder to get, idk why you use it as an example
cutie and sexy
>>129607152Because I have no idea how PAK's work.But you're right, it's kinda silly to compare anything of which the measurement system (and competition) has changed throughout the years.Same way you can't really ever compare sports records.
Newjeans despite no new songs in 2 years has more streams than IVE on Spotify
talk about other groups on kpg pls
>>129607178there were way more streaming platforms https://x.com/gojoism/status/905379778609467392/photo/1
>>129607259Don't forget zombie hoursDon't forget lack of unique idPAKs in the past were more reflective of fandom strength then what it currently is which is public taste.
>>129607331>were more reflective of fandom strengthno, because every mid artist were using sajaegi, basically if you were buying 100 songs on soribada you got #1
the kiiikiiis really love Rei
>>129607342When you got a PAK I meant.
>>129607383And we love the kiiikiiis.
I only love them when they unblocked on Melon
why did IVE members ignore kiiikiii on encore?
The strong should ignore the weak.Also how the fuck did we win on music bank with 0 physicals
>>129607436current SSE CEO was Music Bank PD, also wony was MC 2 years
>>129607488Music bank has been pretty fair about their scoring since their last rigging incident.
God please give me more ReiHaum content.
>>129607436because it wasnt 0
>>129607181because fatman playlisted them to 40mil+ reach
>>129607748
>>129607174Does she really sleeps with that classy nightgown or it's just for the videoclipI thought she was the kind to sleep in a track suit.
