And you don't seem to understandA shame you seemed an honest manAnd all the fears you hold so dearWill turn to whisper in your earAnd you know what they say might hurt youAnd you know that it means so muchAnd you don't even feel a thingI am falling, I am fadingI have lost it allAnd you don't seem the lying kindA shame that I can read your mindAnd all the things that I read thereCandlelit smile that we both shareAnd you know I don't mean to hurt youBut you know that it means so muchAnd you don't even feel a thingI am falling, I am fading, I am drowningHelp me to breatheI am hurting, I have lost it allI am losingHelp me to breatheI am falling, I am failing, I am drowningHelp me to breatheI am hurting, I have lost it allI am losingHelp me to breatheOh-oh, yeahOh-oh-oh-oh, yeahI am falling, I am failing, I am drowningHelp me to breatheI am hurting, I have lost it allI am losingHelp me to breathewhat do they mean to you?
It conveys confusion and some vague sense of betrayal, but one you're not entirely surprised by. Good song.I watched Lain for the first time 4 years ago in the middle of an existential crisis and it was one of the most torturous things I've willingly put myself through. I put off the final episode for a year, at which point I was fine. After I watched it I kinda scratched my head and wondered what was up with me the year prior
>>129608355Ouch !
>>129608355i think they're alright. fits the generally melancholic alt rock vibeOn a slightly related note, is the popularity of the song (almost 1 billion streams on spotify) even correlating with an increase in popularity for SEL? Because i find it hard to believe normalfags are actually watching an anime that's not on crunchyroll (their main source) and that they most likely don't know how to pirate
>>129611780they just watch a streaming version of the anime
>>129611780tiktok. the answer is almost always tiktok these days
ESL thread
>>129608355>PRESENT SNEED>NHYEHEHEH>PRESENT CHUCK>AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>129608355That song is perfect for trannies>>129614336Whats so funny about the present tho
>>129608355one of the best anime intros
Based theme song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlBLcLdTYr4
>>129609011>I watched Lain for the first time 4 years ago in the middle of an existential crisis and it was one of the most torturous things I've willingly put myself through. same. this and texhnolyze.
It sounds like a pastiche of that singer-songwriter stuff from that era. But with better guitar playing.
>>129614320SAAR!
>>129615356you have to go back
Duvet's more a song that I feel than I think about. It's almost entirely floaty and melancholy, not just the vocals and lyrics but most of the instrumentation. The sole exception is the drumwork, which is single-handedly delivering any energy there is to counterbalance the languid mood. I feel like overthinking it would ruin it for me, just enjoying the balance on display is enough.
>>129611780they don't even watch the show. They just see it in their epic femcelerino tiktok edits
>>129608355Good band. They remind me of Swing Out Sister if they had depression.>>129611780I doubt it, it's pretty slow and vague for most of the runtime. I think there's a limit to how many establishing shots with electrical humming they can handle before they go do something else.
>>129615845I'll have to watch that at some point, thanks
>>129619938>>129621757>>129627467>>>/a/
have any of you anime watchers actually listened to the full album more than once? be honest>>129614320no, it's a SEL thread
>>129608355It's about a relationship I thought that was clear. Jasmine Rodgers was a looker in her youth, and like all young beautiful women, they run up against a boyfriend who leaves them for xyz reasons.Great song, boa was a fantastic band, every song a gem. Haven't listened to their new stuff yet.
>>129631852>its about girl that wanted chad, but chad went to sleep with other girlsyea, thats what all women songs are about
>>129632445Indeed.
>>129609011Watch Big O next it's written by the same guy who did Lain. Just fucking trust me.
>>129631852jasmine said in a interview or a short video or a toktok (donnt remember)the song means nothing and you the listener should make up your own sense of the song
>>129608355nepotism is bad anon
>>129627928No, it's very forgettable
>>129631852New's stuff's about on par with the old. Some gems in there like Walk With Me, Beautiful & Broken, and Frozen.
>>129608355A good song for a good anime. That's all. Good. Lain was interesting and prophetic in some ways, but it isn't a masterpiece like the terminally online make it out to be and there's no need to soi out over an Irish band making an anime OST track
Lain's too cool for this gay earth.https://youtu.be/bJ6pUF31D80?si=3c9pE2m-MhFRFK9G
>>129637125>Paul Rodger's kids>Jasmine and Steve>Irish bandWhat? They are literally fromL o n d o nondon
>>129637437Spiritually Irish
>>129611780>and that they most likely don't know how to piratewell the show is on youtube
>>129633046>the song means nothing and you the listener should make up your own sense of the songwhy's this so hard for most music artists to do....
>>129633046Don't believe bullshit anon. >>129637065That's really good to know. I missed out seeing her band in late 2024 because I missed the ticket window and I didn't wanna pay 200+ for nosebleed seats in an arena, but the fact that she was playing in an arena at all, good for her.
>>129637065frozen and whiplash are good
>>129643694>>129645924>>129647479>>129649726dilation time is up anon
>>129627928at some point i gathered every piece of music related to the anime, all of boa's stuff, including the singles, and even a couple of fan lain tribute albums and spent a couple of weeks listening to that playlist on repeat.i rewatched the anime twice within that period, and ordered a canvas print of lain and hung it on my wall.i can't find the full image right now, but it's the same lain pic used in the OP pic. it's in one of the art books.i hated my job and my life at the time and needed an escape
>>129627928Repeatedly. As great as Duvet is, Elephant is the best one on the album to me. Saw the band live last year and they played an extended version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD4_Lgryk64
>>129611780Probably just like the aesthetic and watch video essays about it on YouTube rather than actually watch the show. Many such cases
>>129608355Honestly, a great album.Suprising since the band basically was breaking apart all the time and barely managed to record it.Scratches that 90s alt itch.
>>129608355i hate how trannies and tiktok tourists latched onto this show. same thing happened with azumanga.
>>129655434did they made a extend version of duvet by any chance?
>>129660363>>129608355>>129609011I'm not one to gatekeep anything, but it truly is unfortunate how many faggots and larp-hacker trannies this show attracted. I would say the show should be attracting actual dissociated, tech loner outcast types with high-IQs who secretly mog people by holding a ton of Bitcoin. The show is not that deep, but it coincides with a post-internet age of complete misinformation and borderline fake realities (i.e. fake narratives pushed by AI-generated video like what's happening right now). The show is very ahead of it's time, it doesn't deserve to be attached to legit trannies. Ironically the writer of Lain is a giga chud who hates trannies and believes in realistic conspiracies.
>>129660515Yep, they jammed for like 10 minutes and finished the show with it. I remember there being a call-and-response section that the crowd loved.
>>129661472We must be hanging out in different corners of the internet because I haven't noticed any of this. Is this tiktok?>>129660363>azumangaDo they even like it? I'm a bit of an anime fan myself and even I struggle with Azumanga. Maybe my standards are simply too high since I watched Hidamari Sketch first.
>>129627928Yes. I'd even had Acton Live on youtube for a while, their jazzy stuff they did in the 90s. Boa is genuinely one of my favorite bands of all time.
>>129661523Fuck. Sounds fucking incredible. Good stuff.>>129655434Great taste. The whole album is genuinely great, not just because Duvet is great. It's so tight, not a wasted note, and Jasmine Rodgers is a great songwriter. Wait, they did a call and response for Elephant? How'd that work out?
>>129662962Found a vid of the show I was at, Duvet was the call and response song. It wasn't as long as I remember but still a bit extended. Call and response section starts at 3:45 here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG1_jtrbZMg
>>129661472>I would say the show should be attracting actual dissociated, tech loner outcast types with high-IQs who secretly mog people by holding a ton of Bitcoin.Problem is trannies encapsulate the first half of that. It's easier than in Lain to completely lose yourself in the shitshow of late stage Web 2.0 brainrot, and I don't know how you reach the point of wanting to change your sex without some serious internal dissociation. Living in your own little internet feedback loop only exacerbates those tendencies.
>>129664790AAAAAAAA that's fucking COOOL. Definitely seeing them next time they come back to LA.
>>129662231I always thought the first 6 or so episodes of Azumanga were a little weak, but it straightens out from there. Also Kagura is hands down most boring character, good design but she's just utterly superfluous.
>is low key one of the most beautiful songs ever in your pathhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AtpkM4fQk
>>129669281the lyric "you say a drinking is better than a woman" hits hard because of how true it is for loners (like me)
>>129669281>>129669288That song makes me want to listen to The Bends every single time.
>>129608355Not a bad dreary 90s alt rock song, but it wouldn't have gotten popular if it wasn't one of the rare instances a western song was used in an anime OP. As well as said anime becoming a big deal with trannies and teenagers on TikTok.
>>129670523>>129661472and you don't seem to understand
they were way more kino 20 years ago before all you dweebs started watching anime
>>129675583but we're here, this place is realbots are real
huge fan of another western band that had a beautiful song featured in an anime OP.it will never blow up though, the show is far too based to make tiktok edits of
>>129678939The Delgados?
>>129679146kek, yeah i was curious if /mu/ could guess. i'll forever be grateful to gunslinger girl for putting me on them years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTxoH_5CnhMi love bôa, but honestly the delgados mog them
>>129679723still prefer bôa
>>129680190yeah, i'd imagine most people will agree with this. the delgados are not nearly as easily accessible or consistent as bôa. but when the delgados hit, they hit incredibly hard
>>129680896the thing is not that the degaldos are inferior to Bôa but because I listen to songs/music that have catchy tune/melody. I listened to the degaldos and beside 'the light before we land', there's none appealing to me. it's more personnal. it doesn't mean the degaldos makes bad music I think
>>129680896forgot to add: for example I don't like the lundunium version of boa's songs
>>129680925>>129680938yeah they fill completely different niches. the only common thing is they both did anime OPs, there really isn't much to compare other than they are both alternative indie. 100% personal preference>catchy tune/melodymaybe try this one if you haven't already checked it outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sQ1aJn4dzM
>>129681127>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sQ1aJn4dzMyeah I like this one, thanks
>>129627928I have listened to the whole album. It's one of my favorites. I didn't really click with their latest offering, though. Maybe it's just me but it feels like something is missing.
>>129627928I did, first half is pretty good, 2nd half is just okay but pretty solid album overall
>>129669281Wow that's a great rendition.
>>129694283>BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>>129633046We've reached Current Year+11 and people are still taking entertainers's claims of "It means nothing" at face value
>>129611780As someone who has sat through all episodes of Lain I have to say that most Lain fans didn't actually see the anime. They just like the style of a tech savvy girl in a melancholic surreal setting
>>129634985O!
>>129702300Based milk poster.
>>129608355I have always thought that Duvet was inferior to Drinking.
>>129704722I like Duvet (Cyberia reMIX) more than the original and the acoustic version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2dPCkh78qo
>>129608355It's a good song. It's just a shame that it's attached to tranime. Makes it very embarrassing to listen to.
I liked this song better when James is jamming with pyramid head in Silent Hill 2https://youtu.be/qykno-Dz2VU
>>129711858Know what else is "attached to tranime"?https://youtu.be/YTH8cxXBGBo?si=8iO-DD-pE0oHFvhy
>>129715612How embarrassing. So you're trans then?
>>129715638Yes I watch a lot of anime and I wish to be the little girl
>>129716742Based oldfag
>>129716756God she's hot
>>129608355What's that cover from? I alwaya see the baby oatriches one
>>129716756nice photo,mootykins
>>129716802It's the cover from the Duvet single, not the album it's from.
>>129711858Not your website, faggo
>>129717618Calm down, Susan
>>129719145lol
>>129661472The fans of a thing are completely irrelevant. They change nothing about the thing. Get old and wise enough and you'll realize yourself.
why the fuck has this faggot ass thread been up for over two weeksstop slef bumping faggotjannies! cleanup on isle >>129608355
>>129727197Melt a sub midwit with mind with 3 easy sentences
>>129627928fool and deeply are great songs. the rest is pretty mid.
>>129732011How can you listen to Elephant and call it mid?
>>129732011Everything up through Elephant, Little Miss and Drinking are all excellent.
incredible album, wish Get There wasnt so damn boring thoughno Duvet cover is as good as this shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmy0CSzEpzE
>>129735586get there and the race of a thousand camel are bith 10/10 albums
>>129735586I can't fuck with anyone who doesn't fuck with Daylight. Top 3 song alongside Duvet and Twilight IMO.https://youtu.be/M-6QeZBS5y8?si=xVvrXrqlc7dnKAu8
Dump your entire Lain folder now or let it die , ESL-kun. Thread's over, there's no more discussion to be had
>>129632766Based Big O enjoyerIt was really funny finding out that this, Lain, and Digimon S3 were all written by the same guy years after I'd seen them and considered them favorites
>>129608355Since I associate the song so closely with Serial Experiments Lain, I always interpreted the song as a heartbroken song sang to a government that wants me to disappear.
>>129611780Nobody fucking watches or engages with anything these days. It's just a shallow larp.People wear subcultures of old like halloween costumes. It's all 'vibes'They'll listen to duvet for a 10 second tiktok, think it's cool and wow so liminaly2kcodedanaloghorror and go back to blasting autotune niggerrap.
>>129661472yeah this is strange.there were always the 4-ch/DQN/wwwww weebs who were into Lain, setting up shitpost websites and such. those guys were fine, even pretty funny or clever.obviously it doesn't matter when the original thing itself is still good, but imagine if your favourite band became known for 'its association with furry fandom' or some shit.
>>129755842But it makes sense. Modern troons are essentially the same guys as the 2000's weebs.They have the same interests, computers, anime and being unsociable autists. The only difference is that HRT hit the autists like crack did for blacks in the 80's because suddenly they were told they had a way out of being the creepy virgin loser if they crossdress and take drugs.It's quite sad really
>>129755809the scariest one of these for me was The Simpsons. five years ago i lived with an 18-year-old zoomer who got this as a tattoo.she'd never actually seen The Simpsons (who hasn't seen The Simpsons?) but she 'liked the memes'. references TO The Simpsons are 'an aesthetic' worth getting a tattoo over.
>>129755874>Modern troons are essentially the same guys as the 2000's weebs.yeah i'll admit, i'm largely in denial. and if anything they were always among us, Line Trap and people. the first time i'd ever heard of an actual transsexual was on an anime IRC channel in the early 2000s.but if you're some geeky outcast and you like anime/vidya/programming, isn't that enough? those things are fine, you can even find some online/IRL community of likeminded people.
>>129755916>but if you're some geeky outcast and you like anime/vidya/programming, isn't that enough? those things are fine, you can even find some online/IRL community of likeminded people.You may, but they're all gross neckbeards like you, but if you, dear anon, chemically castrate yourself, you may too get ACTUAL FEMALE VALIDATION by virtue signaling art hoes (who still won't fuck you no matter your twitter bio saying 'trans-saphic' but, still, better than nothing, right?)
>>129755885It's just weird. If you like this stuff why not.. actually like them? I hate to be the creep that goes up to girls in nirvana shirts and goes "you're not a real fan unless you know how many wrinkles Kurt's ballsack had" but I just find it weird. People would be a lot happier if they commited to the larp.
>>129755936you're right, anon. i always FELT different and this MUST be the answer! Asperger's? never heard of it m8.somehow we've looped around so far i actually respect the Gaia Online types. at least their "*glomps u* ^__^" RPing was in earnest, rather than disguised as ironic Twitter shitposts.
>>129755942i think the difference between this and the usual 'gatekeeping' people complain about is it's not>bet she hasn't even read the comic!!!1>name THREE of their albums.etc., it's more like saying 'check the comics/albums out, they're good.'i WANT people to go watch Lain for the first time, it's great.
>>129661472you ruined the thread
>>129760300OK Computer belongs to Ergo Proxy.
>>129758092nvm u didnt
>>129608355Sure thing! Here’s a detailed analysis of the lyrics you shared.These lyrics (from “Numb” by Linkin Park) explore emotional pressure, disconnection, and the gradual loss of personal identity. The speaker feels overwhelmed by expectations placed on them and begins to shut down emotionally as a way to cope. The repeated sense of “falling” and “losing it all” suggests not just sadness, but a deeper experience of no longer recognizing oneself, feeling invisible, or losing any control over one’s life.A strained relationship is at the center of the lyrics. The speaker addresses someone they once trusted, respected, or looked up to but now feels deeply misunderstood by. That person may believe they are acting correctly, even helpfully, yet they fail to notice or acknowledge the emotional toll their expectations impose. This dynamic leads to a quiet, persistent disappointment rather than outward anger, but the hurt is still intense.There is a strong imbalance between the two people. The speaker clearly perceives the other person’s thoughts, judgments, or expectations, but that understanding is not returned. The other person appears emotionally distant, indifferent, or unaware, which only intensifies the speaker’s isolation and sense of being unheard or unseen.The imagery of falling, fading, and drowning conveys emotional overwhelm and helplessness. The repeated plea for help to breathe reflects a desperate need for relief—whether through understanding, emotional space, or escape from suffocating pressures. At the same time, the speaker feels conflicted. They do not want to disappoint or hurt this person, yet they also cannot continue living up to these expectations without losing themselves. Overall, the lyrics depict exhaustion, emotional numbness, and inner struggle as defense mechanisms against relentless pressure and lack of empathy.
Bootleg Natalie Imbruglia track but I like it man, hearing it back in 2008 with the apple tts voice took me back to 1998. Nowadays I got dumbass motherfuckers that I told to watch Lain back then or years later who told me they hated anime posting that shit and they still don't like anime and it's fucking dumb. You're straight up just doing shit man . . .
>>129661472>Ironically the writer of Lain is a giga chud who hates trannies and believes in realistic conspiracies.I read somewhere that one of the motivation of writting Lain was to create something Japanese people could understand and that would alienate western audience. He was disapointed of his worldwide success
>>129608355Style over substance
>>129774856Not an intrinsically bad thing when it comes to music.
>>129608355I know this is off-topic, but I really like listening and looking for songs that brings you back to this time (90's an the begginings of the 2000). For example:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8paDhfGQH4E&list=RD8paDhfGQH4E&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isbqrfwq7UU&list=RDIsbqrfwq7UU&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8vY64fwrlk&list=RDI8vY64fwrlk&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg0k18F2Fkg&list=RDHg0k18F2Fkg&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ex1n53BAQY&list=RD3Ex1n53BAQY&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Vi3wfo_Yw&list=RDe5Vi3wfo_Yw&start_radio=1The bends and the Ok ComputerThe first Gorillaz album, the G-Sides and the Demon DaysThe things is, yeah, big part of this songs/bands tends to be relationated with Radiohead, and its understandable but bit itself they have their own sound, their essence that brings me back to those days, I even have the tipical scenario: A foggy day with a light rain, neon lights and asphalt fumes while I'm on a bus and looking people pass by.Do you guys have some reccomendations of songs that have this "feel"?
>>129735586Get There is almost great with its super awesome production, but it lacks that je ne sais qois that Camels / Twilight had.>>129738580Based. She made a followup to this on her EP in terms of utilizing the double vocals.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p4aWwILErU
>>129780436Oh actually the double vocals are relegated to the chorus and other bits of vocals, leaving the followup nature as the title of the song. Been at least 6 years since I last heard this song. >>129780247Some choice picks, anon. Thanks for sharing.>Do you guys have some reccomendations of songs that have this "feel"?Nah I ain't got shit which makes your picks there all the more awesome.
>>129780247>relationated
