It's hard to imagine a time when these things were so popular and lucrative that they had their own billboard chart and mobsters ran jukebox rackets.
>>129643086The Billboard Jukeboard Plays chart was discontinued when the Hot 100 was created in August 1958.
>>129643100thank you chatgpt
>>129643086>>129643100how did that even work anywaythese things had no memory, they didn’t record what was played or how often. no bar owner is going to write down what comes on the jukebox when he's got a business to run. how did they know.
>>129643354All record charts before the CD era got their information by just phoning a statistical sample of retailers and radio programmers and asking for their playlists. There was no vetting or verification. They literally just trusted their sources to be honest. The system was ridiculously easy to rig and record companies ran a well oiled machine of corruption, even long after payola. Virtually no chart data before the 1990s is 100% reliable, and even after there was still soundscan fraud and streaming manipulation. tl;dr it’s all been fake and gay forever.
>>129643902yebut with music retail the record shops would know their sales numbers. its open to corruption and error of course but at least theres a plausible chain of real information. with trying to count plays on jukeboxes tho theres actually literally physically no way
They had a confused assortment of airplay, disc sales, and jukebox plays charts prior to being consolidated into the Hot 100. The charts also had only 30 spots so it's possible some records sold/got airplay and didn't get noticed.
>>129643902Do you actually believe Pat Boone legitimately had nine charting hits in 1957 and that shit wasn't rigged? Come the fuck on.
>>129643902the most honest era was probably the 2000s, after Napster but before Spotify bot farms
>>129644130they really really did not want Berry or Richard or one of those guys reaching #1 and went out of their way to prevent that from happening. it's not limited to the US Billboard, the UK chart in 1977 also manipulated it to push "Mull of Kintyre" to #1 since they absolutely did not want the Sex Pistols to reach #1.
>>129644130I'm positive many of Perry Como's hits were also rigged.
it was the CD era, but soundscan was something like a decade after CDs got introduced. but I would say then it truly was the CD era because they were normalized by then and had become the dominant format. which was your point I'm sure, just mentioning it for all the kids out there.
>>129643902if it was legit and not manipulated, "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" and "Right Here Waiting" would have scraped the 40s on the Billboard.
The Soundscan switch was exploited hard by Garth Brooks to artificially boost his sales numbers and put himself in a class with the Beatles and Michael Jackson.
>>129644192such awful songs
>>129644230those guys were just the 80s version of Boone pretty much
>>129644242no argument there
>>129644156What I mean is, they didn't mind Elvis going to #1 because he was at least white but Little Richard? Unthinkable.
>>129644192>and "Right Here Waiting"At least that song is not longer played anywhere and completely scrubbed from memory (Bryan Adams does still pollute supermarkets though).
>>129644192as horrible as Bon Jovi might seen at least they did have a legitimate audience of deranged screaming 80s chicks. i'm positive these other guys were just manufactured filler ala Drake and had no actual organic fanbase.
>>129644217like, the label sent people to buy out the stock at record stores? Brooks himself couldn't have had anything to do with it, unless he bankrolled the buys independent of the label.
Pizza Hut had Jimmy Buffet greatest hits and 'why don't we get drunk and screw' was marked off but you could still play it
>>129644192>if it was legit and not manipulated, "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" and "Right Here Waiting" would have scraped the 40s on the Billboard.I can't speak for "Right Here Waiting," but "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" appealed to a lot of moms when it came out. Like, A LOT of moms. It's probably legit.
>>129644192You underestimate the power of normalfags
>>129644192>"Everything I Do (I Do It For You)"a gigahit. that Robin Hood movie had hella SOVL.
>>129646680That song is overhated. Its pretty nice to hear these daysRichard Marx sucks though
>>129647464>Richard Marx sucks thoughhe was discovered by Lionel Ritchie. of course he was. why wouldn't he be?
>>129644130Everything I've heard convinces me that it was mostly button-down 50s parents buying Boone's R&R covers for their kids because they didn't want them listening to the real thing.
>>129647526Its funny on his first hit he tried to be bluesy a bit