What have you all been listening to?
>>129681845secretly his best
I don't listen to much jazz anymore, but lately, Tigran Hamasyan - Manifeste
https://youtu.be/1ihwy9aP8pE?si=fllDmNJ7LA9cN5r6can you guys suggest anything with this kind of sound?i fell in love with it
>>129681845lester young. monk, sonny, miles, you know, the heavies. i know nothing about jazz btw
>>129684055>no fusion or guitar """jazz"""secret jazz enjoyer. your secret is safe with me anon
>>129685787>posted it again award
i'm a tourist but this is probably my favorite jazz track everhttps://youtu.be/p0H2G_W-O0I?si=Cz0yUEStmPvuinsX
Best jazz album of all time
>>129681845Lost gen's jizzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDXvU88AwLk
>>129687866based choice. that album is a top 5 mingus record for me. my favorite song is love chant, i love mal waldron's piano work on that track, but the title track is definitely a close second for me.
>>129687866based tourist. you can stay if you want to
>>129696473of all mingus albums, they chose mingus ah um. fuck whoever made this list
I've been listening to Just the Two of Us a lot this week. Also, found an awesome version played on the chromatic harmonica. I gotta learn it.
I just realized that Louis Armstrong is actually a talented guy and not just that guy that did that annoying Wonderful World song
>>129697524But that song is pretty good
https://youtu.be/2tMZTN_HZOY
>>129683122I liekd Ole more, but man that drum solo is a banger
The new Melissa Aldana is not bad. Recommended for Sonny Rollins fans.
>>129687873i think new thing at newport is my favorite shepp session
>>129702985i've already heard all these albums but thanks i guess
>>129683128is that one good? i like his choral stuff but the Mockroot sounding stuff with rock-y headbanger rhythms bore me to death
Been getting into Jazz for the first time and I'm really enjoying Art Blakey.Currently got Ugetsu on.
>>129681845just finding out how good george coleman was, guy's a fucking machine gun. also listened to some live gerry mulligan stuff, absolute fucking wecking ball playing bebop.>>129706264great music, used to listen to that on repeat quite a lot.
>>129706264my favorite art blakey is the witch doctor album, make sure to check that out soon, super intense drumming
>>129706334thanks fren, will do
>>129706264>>129706309>>129706334Only good posts so far.
>>129681845Relistened to this for the 50th time after a long time this past week, goddamn do i love this album, Don and Barbieri trading those lines is so awesome, their interplay a thing of beauty. Really really love this, probably more than i love anything by Ornette dare i say.
>>129700597Ok, will check it out, thanks anon.
>>129681845Is Pat Methaney jazz?
>>129709140I say yes, but it depends on who you ask
>>129702985I find Out to Lunch way more musically daring than The Shape of Jazz to Come for instance.
>>129681845
>>129706678/jazz/ is one of the only decent havens on this board, even if it's only up like 50/365 days a year
>>129709140yeswhat you should be asking is why do rockfags like metheny more than jazzfags
>>129709266I think most people do by now, and personally I've always preferred Dolphy over Ornette in general.
>>129710209Most posts on jazz threads are fucking dogshit, this board will forever be filtered by the genre. It's been ages since we had people who actually were into jazz.
>>129710419nowadays im seeing a lot of "jazz is boring and pretentious but fusion is supreme" posts, so as usual the pop/rock community is trying to act like the authority on this genre.
>>129710916How could jazz be more pretentious than fusion?
>>129712007I don't know, ask the pop/rock tourists.
>>129686485>malding again award
>>129683122oops wrong pic
any playful improvisational easy listening jazz artists like Chet Baker? new to the genre
>>129712600If you like Chet i guess listen to Gerry Mulligan.
>>129712600paul desmond, stan getz, ben webster. start with picrel.
>>129715344should be called avant-garde jazz instead, some of these don't use any free-forms or free-rhythms despite weird rhythms and abstracted tonalities
>>129715344>>129715360Yeah, a lot of those aren't free jazz at all.
>>129712629>>129713205is this "cool jazz"?
>>129681845Whatever they play on KJAZZ
>>129715680i haven't heard it in a hot minute but yeah i think so
>>129715680Yes.
>>129715344Let's narrow the actual free jazz there>Albert Ayler>Ornette Coleman>Cecil Taylor>Coltrane's Om>Anthony Braxton>Dave BurrellI don't know why would you put Jazz in Silhouette there, that's one of Sun ra's early traditional albums.
>>129718421Is it possible whoever made that chart didn't even listen to the albums?
This...my 9 month old baby inexplicably loves this album. She just sits in my lap and does happy baby arm flaps the entire time.
>>129721352>Yesterdays New QuintetI love Madlib but his jazz was a real snoozefest until he started playing with other people like Todd Simon and dan Ubick. Sound Directions, Jewelz and Miles Away are much better albums. No disrespect to my man Otis tho, it's a compliment that I've followed his music for 20+ years now.
I have nothing to really add at the moment. Here's most recent jazz listens. >>129690406This chart is excellent and I will listen to several of these. The ones on here that I've already heard are great albums so hopes are high.
>>129717153>noticeably gets worse the more avant-garde and more guitar focused it getsthe most depressing picture of all time
>>129722010The best album on the chart is from 69 so that's complete baloney.
>>129722010>gets worse the more avant-garde Nah>more guitar focusedyes, though there are exceptions
>>129717153>The Prisoner by Herbie HancockThis is one of the few albums on here I haven't heard that caught my eye, is it good?
>>129723078It's fine. It's not a bad album but it's more forgettable compared to his others from that decade. The opening track and title track are pretty great but the rest you can live without and you won't miss much.
>>129723104Alright thanks, I'll give it a shot this week
>>129721417This is so fucking good, anon, thanks for the unintentional rec. The drumming is especially great, like it always is with Cyrille. Was also a nice reminder of how much i love a trio formation, 3 really is the magic number. Tell your daughter i said she's based.
>>129721417Based babycore
I spit on your charts.
>>129727281Then post your own coward.
>>129683356maybe this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ahaXnO_tE
>>129683356there's a bunch of Glenn Miller that sounds like this. presumably lots of big bands had sad, slow songs
what's up with all this vague chart posting? everyone has already heard all these. post an album you like we haven't heard already for crying out loud.
>>129727281We need more charts. Specially one for, only, fusion jazz.
I basically only listen to guitar jazz, rate my taste
>>129730630>guaranteed replies
>>129731233dorky unseasoned white boy/10
>>129731464Sorry we can't all be zesty niggas
American black people don't even listen to jazz.
>>129732281It's so pathetic that they only listen to rap
>>129732281My pops used to say it reminded him of bebop
>>129732281burger blacks watch cowboy bebop and play persona & mario kart, so this post is officially DEBUNKED
god DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
>>129726007Why people only recommend Unit Structure from Taylor? His early stuff was very forward for the time toohttps://youtu.be/sbXCrSMCMOY?si=ZrWAKOB0SUBHAXcL
>>129733662And it had the soprano goat Steve Lacy.
Always hits hard when you look up a Jazz great on wiki and you see they died in their early 30s
>>129733891Look up Booker Little.
>>129731233You need some Jim Hall in there, he played in thousands of albums
>>129733942brutal way to go that
>>129733952I'll look into him, thanks
Whoever recd this: Good call. I love this so far.
>>129732606I said "well, daddy, don't you know that music goes in cycles?"
>>129739646>look at me guys, i fit in with all le adults!
Best trombone albums?
>>129683122close but picrel is top-shelf trane.
>>129742280Melba Liston - and her Boneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-EPhWtl_4YPhil Ranelin - Vibes from the Tribehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZhGLiW4J6ERay Anderson - What Becausehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZsr_0orMaAJJ Johnson - Quintergyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoYmdoOoOtoTutti's Tromboneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvayZFT9QWI
>>129744810I dont disagree with those choices but no Curtis Fuller?>>129687873How is the drummer on this? Isn't Norman Connors kind of a shit drummer? I've avoided this album because of him.
Fuck piano and fuck guitar. Melody instruments + bass and drums only for this cowboy.
>when he puts on jazz fusion with a guitar
Whats with all these fucking charts? I don't get it. Just a bunch of album covers with no context. It's all so performative but in the cringiest way possible>look at these albums I skimmed through on spotify
>>129751494And in many cases they're downright incorrect.
This is the only chart that I have ever found useful. I even had it saved to my phone so I could pull it up when I was out digging.>lots cheap heat>an entry point to a lot of overlooked artists>late career gems from established namesAs for smooth jazz itself...purists can kiss my ass. All this shit sounds great blasting during the summer. Especially when you are driving the family around in a minivan. Jazz was dancing music first and it wasn't until a bunch of CIA G-men made it all pretenious with bop. Music to sit at home and stroke your chin to instead of being foreplay with a ripe juice negress. Donald Byrd tried to bring this back in the 70s and Blue Note hated him for it.
>>129751832>Waiting room music >Elevator music>90s cable softcore porn music
>>129751865>t. rizzlet virgin
>>129751832I saved this version in the '90s Weather Channel thread.
>>129752043That's amazing. Thanks for the upgrade.
>>129752133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUWX7re9Bww
>>129751947>t. tasteless moron
>>129751865correct>>129751947go back to the pop/rock threads please
Not music
>>129751832>>129752043>look at me! i'm white!
So jazz fusion is just the musical equivalent of pic related, right?
>>129751130how the hell is piano not a "melody instrument"
>>129751494people love to be opinionated on jazz, especially the people who barely listen to it
>>129753501nono marvel drone is listening to jazz fusion
>>129755268guess whatwrong
Don't let the abysmal cover art fool you, pic related is top shelf latin jazz.I usually find "samba" and such too sleepy and passive to be entertaining, but this really is fantastic. Highly recommend.
>>129755326marveldrones listen to pop hip hop
>>129755536Nice thanks for the rec. I'm the guy who posted his Trident album a couple threads ago so I'm always in the lookout for his lesser known albums.And this absolutely looks like something you would skip over in the dollar cd bin.
>>129755161Are you kidding?
>>129756152guess whatwhat else
>>129757310
>>129753501The progfag kind of fusion maybe
>>129757731Why people loved Monk but hated Taylor, did he go too far?https://youtu.be/LnDUWKRD_y0?si=Jt-X2wrHcHZf8AxK
>>129759448>did he go too far?Yes, they think he went too far.
https://youtu.be/YB5dgiNP9SkI love this so much it's unreal.
>>129753501Holy nostalgia Batman
Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy.
How about some oboe jazz:https://youtu.be/nRWrCfdmG40
>>129762298mr lateef was into thathttps://youtu.be/T5YOeT9Evfg
>>129762054some of dolphy's early work is better than out to lunch, but ya'll ain't ready for that conversation yet
>>129755536i mean its mccoy fucking tyner, most of his solo shit is very high quality
>>129762054dolphy is the fucking man, most tragic early death in jazz history imo
>>129764131Yeah, and i often wonder in which direction he would've gone in the late 60s.
>>129764829kamasi washington sucks. extremely bloated, overemoted, overproduced claptrap for NPR listeners
Since the thread is still going strong I'll post my Jazz-ssentials chart. Everyone else is doing it so why not. Remember: Jazz purists are scum of the earth and should be ignored. >>129752043Aside from that god awful Bob James album this is a really solid chart. Swap that album out with Touchdown or Foxie and this chart is great.
>>129763978The second and third tracks on this are amazing.
>>129768461Ok honestly, I usually think that ICE needs to deport chart posters. BUT this list is actually really based so you get a pass. You like jazz that doesn't have a stick up its ass. You should try some O'Donel Levy. Funky jazz guitar, some of his albums are getting pricey but even the cheap ones have heat.>my 9 month old baby likes him to.>Bob JamesThis guy is such a wild card. I like smooth jazz but some of his is way too smooth even for me, music for a swingin' supermarket. That one album with the lady bug cover almost made me permanently less funkified. You might also like Milt Jackson - Sunflower and Herbie Mann - Memphis Underground. Let me know if you ever backtrace my address and we can smoke a blunt and spin some wax.
>>129769414The only based thing on that chart is the Sharrock album.
>>129769448Sharrock? More like Shurecuck. What's his lasting legacy...doing this music for fucking Space Ghost?
>>129770378Very funny, anon.
>>129768461>all these guitars and fusioni think i'm gonna be sick...
i actually like guitar when it's fusion
>>129769414I keep wanting to buy Levy but whenever I thrift I can never find any of his stuff and half the copies online are expensive as hell. I gotta keep him in mind more often. >Milt Jackson Checked out plenty of his stuff already. I always thought he was kinda boring in the grand scheme of smooth jazz, and his 50s stuff even moreso. If I want vibe jazz then Hutcherson and Burton do the schtick 50x better. >Herbie Mann Already own 8 of his albums, including that one. I've enjoyed all of them. >That one album with the lady bug cover almost made me permanently less funkifiedLucky Seven? That's a shame. I really like that one. I own his first 12 and I like all but one of them. His early CTI work is some amazing stuff. >we can smoke a bluntI don't smoke but if you can make a decent Old Fashioned then sure.
>>129771313>LevyPatience. This is probably on some Carl Jung shit but in my experience when it comes to digging once I decide to find something, and really want it, than a copy turns up.>MiltFull disclosure: I only really dig Sunflower. To me its jazz that is smooth, not "smooth jazz" the genre. But it seemed like it would fit in with the vibe of your chart. >HerbieThis guy doesn't get his due.Yeah there is a lot of fluff in his discography. And I don't keep every record of his that I find but when he's on - its fire. I mean anyone playing with Larry Coryell, Sonny Sharrock, and Roy Ayers has to be doing something right.>Bob JamesRecommend me some songs or albums that aren't on his frst 3 for CTI to give me a way in. Those albums are great but what comes after seems to lose the magic. Maybe its beacuse the early ones had famous samples that it sets an expection that the others will have massive breaks. >a decent Old FashionedYou are making me thirsty on a week night.
>>129681845Jazz music is pure degeneracy pouring out of the trumpet, the saxophone, the piano, the drums. It's an insane frenzy. Only a little bit of the music is composed, the rest is the "musicians" playing fucking RANDOM NOTES. And they call this music. I call it the death of civilization. To be a musician you at least had to know things. These jazz musicians were the first of AI goyslop. We need a new music for the coming Age of Caesar.
>>129771620>once I decide to find something, and really want it, than a copy turns up.I live in a thrift heavy state but it's rare, if ever, I go into a flea market or thrift store wanting a SPECIFIC thing. The fun of thrifting is the surprise of what's on the album for me, and that's how I found a lot of my favorite jazz (including many on the aformentioned chart) >But it seemed like it would fit in with the vibe of your chart.Something about Milt specifically was never really my vibe. Vibes are far from my favorite instrument in jazz but they grew on me a bit overtime. He's just so vanilla compared to other giants in the genre, vibe or not. >And I don't keep every record of his that I findThat's been pretty close to my experience too. Unless it's a studio album tight between two others I don't tend to keep the weaker ones. In Herbie's case there was a short time I owned two of his late 70s albums (Supermann and Yellow Fever) but since they were mostly mediocre and it was right at the tailend of my collection for him, they weren't kept. >Recommend me some songs or albums that aren't on his frst 3I'll do one song off each between 4 and Foxie. Tappan Zee (BJ4) I'm In You (Heads) Title Track (Touchdown) Look-Alike (Lucky Seven) Brighton by the Sea (H) Enchanted Forest (Sign of the Times) Shamboozie (Hands Down) The Marilu (The Genie) Zebra Man (Foxie) He's one of the artists I own the most records from. When I was talking about the smooth chart I was only crapping on that album specifically. Joy Ride and Obsession are HORRIBLE albums.
https://youtu.be/5zzCYFL9zfw
bump
>129771666>look at me, i'm smart and interestingwaste of trips
>>129770803i actually like jazz when it's jazz
>>129771692Right on. Thanks for the Bob James mixtape.
Is this actually secretly better than A Love Supreme or has familiarity with ALS made me underrate it?
I can’t find any jazz better than pic related and it’s starting to make me depressed
>>129775136Nice to see an album of his that isn't Quiet Kenny.
>>129771666go get raped in a death camp, fattie
>replying to the most obvious retarded bait of all time
>>129779562Anything more than a quartet is noise
>>129780239That's dumb. I do think trio is the best formation though.
https://youtu.be/oA6ePkFeCYUThe better brother.
>>129776530go get raped in a death camp, fattie
>>129780355wrong
>>129775136gonna give this a listen i guess
>>129782293Listen to the complete sessions
>>129781055congratulations on being a jazz fan for a whopping total of twelve (12) months
>>129782524Give the kid a break. At least I don't see Bitches Brew and Scenery on there.>>129733011I just picked this up yesterday. It was very enjoyable. It's probably not his best but a solid change of pace for when you get tired of the studio albums. It cost me $8 and I would have paid $10.Summer Song made me think I had put on a Kool & the Gang record for a minute.
>>129779562I have a slight suspicion that you like piano
>>129783803What is this a chart of, terrible album covers?
30 in a few monthsis it too late to start a jazz related instrument? which should i start with?
>>129698901Ole at the wheel
>>129784705It's never too late. Alto sax is the easiest and quickest to get mediocre at.
>>129784705piano or drums, everything else is low-T. maybe double bass if you like listening to charlie haden and paul chambers more than ron carter or eddie gomez (no i will NOT elaborate)
>>129785270>everything else is low-T.Yawn.
>>129784705If you haven't won your first Grammy by 25 you are NGMI. Sorry friend.
spiritual jazz is best jazz
>>129787115>weeb shitembarrassing
>>129787215I bet you won’t post your chart
>>129787175Can you even define what that is?
>>129784705Vibraphone and baritone flute.
usually I get shitty pop music stuck in my head, but today at work I had something cool instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njJtE9citu4
>>129763978I'm only aware of Zawinal, but that one Weather Report record I have , Sweetnighter, is some heavy stuff, and I don't generally fuck with fusion
>>129766954very informative, dipshit
>>129769414>Bob James>This guy is such a wild cardtrue dat. you can basically pick through the stuff that's been sampled as a filter. Nautilus is gold. etc
>>129775182>>129775136not sure I've heard anything other than Quiet Kenny but that guy is cool
>>129771781huh. the bitch can swing a fucking recorder. nice.
>>129783803tell me about kenny banks jr.EAV is really near my house, but there's not a dedicated jazz venue as far as I'm aware
>>129681845This week?Lots of John McLaughlinWith Miles DavisWith ShaktiWith Mahavishnu And that Mediterranean something with the LSO
yall like lord of the rings jazz?https://youtu.be/0M_JYzpIUVE?si=g8twaKVg3eSPozZy
>>129788570>VibraphoneAnon is not a millionaire.
>>129788743Listen to the Komeda album, it's truly great (and not fusion at all, not even remotely, thank God).
>>129788866It's actually better suited for jazz than the concert flute is, but nobody will ever realise this, and if they do they'll never admit it.
>>129789831The only fusion here were my ears and a good time.
>>129789870
>>129785384>YawnLow-T response
>>129787115not bad for someone who only listens to 3 or 4 jazz subgenres
>>129791492Double yawn.
>>129791787Double cope
>>129788815Last night I was listening to BJ 1 last night and damn it's so good all the way through.I did listen to the songs that the other Anon recommended and liked them. But I wouldn't say that any of them were as great as his first 3 albums on CTI. BJ 4 and Heads seemed the strongest to me - maybe James' move to Tappen Zee from CTI meant with more control no one was there to reign in his schmaltzy impulses.
>>129792517yeah, I think Tz was his own label
>>129795282Oh shit, I had forgotten all about that Passport album. Ima give that a spin tonight.>>129793233I had to look it up but you are correct. Sounds like absolute power corrupting absolutely. >imagine needing Creed Taylor there to say "no way, you are making this track to soft."
>>129795282>t. white rockist that discovered black music 6 months ago
>>129795282Soft machine is extremely mid in their jazz era, those solos and improvisations are so flavorless and bland, it just sounds like really fast power chords played on sax with no real jazziness whatsoever. no wonder fusion gets shit on for being tourism fodder around these parts
>>129795730That's the entirety of this thread. It's simply impossible for /mu/ to avoid getting filtered by jazz. We'll never have a good jazz thread ever again.
>>129795282>95 percent of the albums on here are rock and not jazzare you in the wrong thread?
Chartposting has become a problem.
anybody like David Binney? His old albums from like 15 years ago are badass
>>129797596He's too based for this board, love everything he's done
>>129797775ah cool, I didn't know if there were any cool people in these jazz threads or what
>>129797596only heard a couple of his albums but yes he's quite based>mark turner>dan weisslooks like im checking this one out too
How do jazz purists rank Bitches Brew? Does it get a pass because Miles is doing it or does it go into the bin with all other fusion?
>>129802145you answered your own question, jazz purists by their own definition hate all fusion
>>129802515Thanks I just wasn't sure. I personally don't like it, or much of Miles' work after BB. In A Silent Way is great but like On the Corner? That sucks as funk and as jazz. Same as BB sucks as rock or jazz.
https://youtu.be/H1p3E2PL12Manyone else like him?
What say you fellas of something like this:https://youtu.be/XVZFx5EWlVA
>>129804411 singing is kinda charming https://youtu.be/mPhu24v2Cjk
>>129797596Criss cross used to be a huge meme here
>>129797596this is like the only modern jazz album ive heard 20+ times i think.i need a clear connection to the past and i need a decent amount of somehting familiar and just the right amount challenge to really want to get into an album
>>129802145Have you MET jazz purists? They throw a temper tantrum the second they hear any jazz more modern than a Count Basie album. Of course they'd hate it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr3QWleoJXg
Mom told me this isn't real music because there aren't any lyrics.
>>129805509Yeah I remember that. People would get filtered hard by the bad cover art or whatever. There is some really good stuff though on the label. Pic related for example
>>129807807I remember someone who remade a bunch of their covers in the style of blue note
My jazz thread won't die, not on my watch.
there are two kinds of jazz purists: snobby boomers who only like anything pre-bebop and uppity zoomers who only like anything rocky or fusion-y. both are obnoxious and myopic but for different reasons.>I JUST WANT TO GRILL FOR GOD'S SAKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGrJt0WR3XQWtf I love fusion now
>>129812015what do you mean "now", you just discovered this?
