Progressive rock is literally the best music ever created.
>>129697000shitty cope genre for people who can't into classical or jazz
>>129697047Jazz is niggashit
(Proper) Death and Black Metal are better since they take the rock out of prog rock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PAvVTpXXt8
>>129697000Wrong. But it's a good genre.>>129697047Correct.
>>129697000Overall it’s a B tier genre but at its peak it can be the greatest music ever
>>129697000you belong in the /prog/ general
>>129697000Wrong pic, my bad
>>129697411>"Wrong. But it's a good genre.">Image posted puts it in god-tier
>>129697736classical is above itI put classical above on propouse, figure it out whyBut you are right I should have put classical in an SS tier of its own or something
>>129697253truth
>>129697411Jazz is superior to jazz fusion, except for jazz flamenco which is literally peak music.
What was the name of that prog rock band from the 70's whose covers had a naked fat guy on them? I don't want to look up the covers, but some of their songs seemed interesting.
>>129697757What about classical jazz?:https://youtu.be/R-W2kKth5IE?is=HirLCu_rt1dZcn-3https://youtu.be/HkirDfEmkXI?is=fJ8ohPLFZ9PkEHRX
>>129697757Classical is nutless, neutered, overrated pap
>>129697411>tiermakerGo back to r_ddit
>>129697861>Classical is nutless, neutered, overrated pap>Keeps producing the best composers ever in musicClassical is the Crown's Jewel of musicif your base is classical you are automatically an amazing composer that will out do all the normies that didnt had a classical base
>>129697840Jazz Fusion is Jazz but less limited it implements a lot of electric instruments and even synths which is something regular Jazz doesnt do. Get with the times Unc. Which means the late 60smusic evolved a lot in that period.
>>129697994I understand that the idea of electric or fusion jazz is superior to jazz at first. However, if you compare regular jazz's greatest artists and recordings with most of the jazz fusion's output, you'll most likely appreciate the difference.
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>>129697047They are completely different
Why were 80s-90s punk/grudge bands so revolted about "turning into prog rock"?
>>129698199Because "punk"fags are retarded
>>129697047Man who doesn't listen to progressive rock, classical or jazz music on the internet:>shitty cope genre for people who can't into classical or jazz
>>129698199because they couldn't keep up with the skill level increasing in Punk. They wanted to keep Punk easy and retarded for doo-doo brains.You always hear those fags that say>bro learning theory will make you worse at comping up with music actuallyyeah those kinda fags were those Punk fags that complained back then
>>129698199>punks hated prog rockThis is mostly a myth made up by music journalists in the 1980s since it's their job to create brands and push culture wars since it drives brand loyalty and sales. There's more instances of classic punk bands praising progressive rock than dunking on it, and progressive rock bands didn't really talk about punk rock much at all.The punk bands that did hate prog were the ones that were, ironically, chasing the 'trend' of punk.
>>129697253You can make a case that death metal even in its most vanilla form was progressive (there's fucking morbid angel songs written with sonata form in the 1980s) but black metal wasn't progressive at all and the genre specifically had to wait for bands like emperor or sigh to infuse it with prog
>>129698264Kurt Cobain said that he didn't want Nirvana to turn "prog rock" and I recall Thurston Moore getting annoyed at a journalist comparing SY to prog rock bands. It was definitely a thing like those musicians thought it was lame
>>129698282Wow, if two of the most totally organic and definitely not corporate plant "punks" said prog was bad, then it must be
>>129698199>if I learn theory it will kill my creativityThere is "musicians" that unironically believe this
>>129697253>took the rock out of prog rockMagma was already doing that in the 70s, sorry metalfags.https://youtu.be/ogoL-18TSZA?t=2362
Speaking of Magma, how do I into them? I tried MDK, Udu Wudu, KA and Ementehht-Re and didn't understand it at all
>>129698311>1976wtf
>>129698317dont get into Genesis, excuse the old recording quality but their songs are good:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLy6gsw4OM4or listen to my favorite Flower Kings:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx-0BmYg5Z8
>i meant to say: Don't. Period. Get into Genesis. btw.
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
>>129698341Dude just enjoy the variety of instruments and where the sound is leading, the build ups the crescendos and changes in time signatures and so on lol. Enjoy the concept of a song within a song because that's basically what it is. You have to be in a mood for prog rock though, so its understandable, and you gotta have time to listen to a longer than average song.
>>129698317I mean, if you didn't ike MDK, KA, or Ementehht-re, then Magma probably aren't for you.
>>129697047>his personality is defined by music genres You are a very interesting person.
>>129698288I'm not saying prog is bad fag boy I'm just wondering why they were concerned about it, it just seems odd to me
>>129698282Thurston Moore has admitted to liking yes. Not sure where I read that off hand but im certain he likes the genre to some degree
>>129698341
Yeah, I like Queen too.
>>129698282>I recall Thurston Moore getting annoyed at a journalist comparing SY to prog rock bandsThat doesn't mean anything. Jethro Tull are a progressive rock classic, but didn't like being called "prog" because the term "prog" was generally associated with the worst of progressive rock's excesses, at least to Ian Anderson who didn't want to be pigeonholed.Magma are a progressive rock classic, but they never even considered themselves a progressive rock group or were even closely tied to the scene, jokingly calling themselves a post-punk band at one point even.
>>129698895>jokingly calling themselves a post-punk band at one point even.jokingly saying they were closer to post-punk than progressive rock***
>>129698895I wonder if that's what happened to This Heat too. They are often classified as post-punk but they sound like prog rock to me
Heavy metal is literally the best music ever created.
>>129697724Contrarian moron
>>129697840could you recommend some jazz flamenco albums or artists, anon? sounds very interesting
>>129697047fpbp, /thread
>>129697994jazz is about tonality and rhythm, not muh electric timbres you rock kiddie>>129700041nta but a lot of people start with pic related. if you like it, also check out Paco de Lucía and Jorge Pardo. and don't use retarded tourist sites like progarchives to look up jazz subgenres like this, those retards have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to jazz bands that aren't soft machine or mahavishnu
>>129700437and not really flamenco related at all but a lot of fans of jazz flamenco also tend to really like brazillian jazz guitarists, so maybe consider checking out egberto gismonti, lula galvao, guinga, etc.
>>129700437thanks, anonI'll start with that and hopefully we can get some other recs
>>129697411>one jazz subgenre of "fusion" gets its own image>all other jazz subgenres get bundled into the "jazz" imagepure pseud ignorance lmao
>>129698317Your last resort is to listen to them live. Try out pic related. If that still isn't for you, then you're simply eternally filtered, nothing wrong with that. If you like jazz then you might be interested in hearing about all of the Max Roach and McCoy Tyner influences, but otherwise I'd just move on.>>129700497I noticed that too lol, people love to act like unbiased authorities and then pull amateur mistakes that completely tell on themselves lmao.
>>129697047progtards on suicide watch
>>129700775Upvoted
>>129697047Fippy
>>129698010That would involve listening to thousands of swing, big band, bop and modal albums which rock fans generally aren't interested in doing.
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>>129697047Im pretty sure a lot of people who listen to prog listen to classical and jazz as well.
>>129700918if by "a lot" you mean one or two percent then sure
>>129700918elp isnt classical and soft machine isnt jazz
>>129697047Classical and jazz lean heavily on brass (the worst timbre of any instruments) while prog rock is built around guitars, easily the best sound there is. That said, I’d put Renaissance and medieval music up there too.
>>129697000Progressive metal exists
>>129698317try live videos. seeing them perform may make you get it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAnbGgGoQG8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYevo_wyd70https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IscIof4eZ8
>>129702440>>129702458listen to real music, unfuckable dorks
>>129702458Progressive manchildren exist too thats the same thing
>>129702547This is boring. Listen to REAL music (aka rock or folk) https://youtu.be/I-Xs5Tj-LiA
>>129703501gutter trash
>>129702458It should be a crime to remind me that this worthless jizzstain of a genre exists
>>129702458Progressive metal sucks so hard that any metal that's actually progressive is relabeled "avant-garde metal" lmao
>>129704018>avant-garde metalstill mogged by avant-prog back in the 70s
>>129704310Some avant-garde metal's really insane if you have a tolerance for really cheesy and over the top shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHT32KC9B4Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFrEJTpHBJchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnnHStj_f1A
>>129698264Johnny Rotten talked about being a huge fan of Can in an interview one time and then Malcom McClaren told him not to say that anymore.
