Early Katatonia is so good man
>>129764200>band starts as death doom>singer ruins his voice so they switch to alternative/goth rockKek has this ever happened before
>>129764464I like the clean vocals. Jonas has a good voice. I did watch a live performance where the backup vocals were terrible though, so...?
>>129764464Didn't Akerfeldt do harsh vocals on that algum?
>>129764591Yea, but on the first album and two EPs Jonas did harsh screaming.
>>129764200It always surprises me how good TGCD is considering Viva Emptiness is dogshit.
>>129765189>Viva EmptinessThat album is really ruined by those edgy lyrics
>>129764200It really is. That and discouraged ones are amazing.Check out mother of graves. They're new and have a very good similar sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKEKWS_ahzY
>>129764200I love this album, but for me their best is The Great Cold Distance, the guitars, the drums are perfect and the clean singing too. I can't stop listening to it
>Katatonia threadBased. Love just about everything they've done up through City Burials. Last two albums have been completely inessential but eh, it was a good streak.Anyways, I'm increasingly leaning more towards Sounds of Decay being my favorite release from them ever since I learned about Untrue. That outro completes the EP IMO, and makes me want to hear the "shitty" first recording sessions. Even as is, it's basically BMD but a bit heavier and more melodic.
>>129765737They started falling off hard after this for some reason, that album's a masterpiece tho
>>129764464Not due to ruined vocals but bands like Anathema and The Gathering have gone down similar trajectories. Vincent's even admitted in recent years that he was never really a metal sort of guy, Anathema's later pushes into electronic territory was basically all him and why he's fucked off to do The Radicant.
>>129766448>for some reasonAnders fell into writer's block after that one and never recovered. Night is the New Day is one of my absolute favorites from them and I actually like it a lot more than Great Cold Distance, but it does mark the beginning of the band as basically Jonas' solo project. By City Burials, Anders wasn't even contributing anymore. I still had the patience for their next few albums but they really are spinning their wheels these days.
>>129766455Lots of early death doom bands were like that including Paradise Lost who also had an experimental era but then gradually went back to making gothic/death doom metal again.Though Greg and Nick recently made electronic music again under the name Host.
>>129766472I saw from setlists that they play almost nothing before Viva Emptiness anymore
>>129766455>Vincent's even admitted in recent years that he was never really a metal sort of guyKek the frontman of Leprous also said the same thing even though his band started by playing as Ihsahn's backing band
>>129766472I liked the more proggy sound of The Fall of Hearts but don't care for the rest of their later albums, the last one was especially uninspired.
>>129766481And that's a major part of why Anders split, arguably THE main reason why. He says he wants to do the earlier era of the band justice in a live setting so who knows, maybe he'll get something going in due time to make it happen. I'd be down.
>>129766516Understandable. I consider Dead End Kings to be the last album that is even vaguely recognizable as "classic Katatonia", and for me City Burials is sort of an epilogue moment. I think Jonas did a good job of trimming the fat of Fall and finding a tighter record that keeps the good bits with a few touches of novelty here and there like on Lacquer or Lachesis. I do remember listening to that one for the first time, putting my headphones down and thinking "I like this album, but they never need to make another one like it". So it's come to be since, just microwaving CB over and over.
>>129766495Speaking of Ihsashn, Jonas recently sang a cover of a Kent song with himhttps://youtu.be/9Fxt9dDf3T4?is=iWJboUVKJef5ay5e
>>129766580Not sure what was the point of that cover when it sounds nearly the same as the original.
>>129766566Like lot of other bands it just felt like later Katatonia were simply on auto pilot and writing the same kind of a few songs, Dark Tranquility is another band with the same problem where you feel like you heard their new songs before.
>>129766566Did you listen to their acoustic live albums? Those new versions of songs were pretty interesting and they worked well
>>129766626I think I've heard Dethroned and Uncrowned but not this one. I'll have to get around to it, but I do know they were interested in the acoustic end of things during the DEK era.
>>129766607Sure. A good 80% of City Burials isn't particularly different, just refined to a point of nothing really left to say. I'm of the opinion that Fall is a bit overindulgent, so I'm fine with a follow-up that tightened things up a bit.
>>129765189>>129765238Viva Emptiness is the album that I got into Katatonia with and you're both meaniebutts for dunking on it. But seriously, even I can't defend the outro to Evidence. That bit aside, I still enjoy the album a lot.
>muh birds>muh darkness
>>129766838I am astounded that a.) it took Jonas 12 albums to finally write a song called Birds and b.) he managed to fuck it up. Ironically, the main melody of the song was shelved because it sounded too much like Paradise Lost. He's right, but it's also the only good part of the song.
>>129766809>But seriously, even I can't defend the outro to Evidence.That's my favourite part of Evidence lmaoVE is a great album tho, more consistent than LFDGD although LFDGD has better highlights ie Dispossession, Tonight's Music etcI still think TGCD is the best of their modern era, about half of NITND is good in my opinion, I remember really hoping they were going to do a whole album of Unfurls and was disappointed they didn't.
>>129767348It's a great instrumental finish but those are easily the most goofy, contrived lyrics he's ever written. I think I like LFDGD a touch more overall, but I love both albums. I'm probably in the minority that puts TGCD towards the bottom of their discography, I like when this band mixes up their instrumental palates with keys and mellotrons and shit, and that one's almost straight distorted guitars. I feel like I'm listening to the same song on repeat with TGCD after a while. No one song is bad but as an album I get fatigued with it.
>>129764200>KatatoniaDon't you mean Catatonia?https://youtu.be/U_bL0EqlDEk?is=w0AUYk8r3Dcl8X0b
>>129765737I SEE THE BRIGHT LIGHTSITS THE MONTH OF JULY
Alt metal Katatonia are just Linkin Park for snobs
>>129768276Nah, that's Felt. Katatonia's not obscure enough.
>>129768572>FeltThat English indie pop band?
>>129768616Had a brain fart. Left. Same letters, different arrangement.https://youtu.be/p4dRQpRXf5k?si=nSPSW3_4tWE6odz9
>>129766481I saw them 15 years and they only played two from Viva Emptiness and one from Last Fair Deal
Everything after The Fall of Hearts is so bland
>>129768765Almost as bad as in Flames who nearly never play anything older than songs from Clayman
>>129768775There are individual songs on each of their successive albums that I like more than most of Fall, but as an album they feel so been there, done that. Like this last album, the opener and the 3 singles would make for a solid, if not formulaic EP. Don't really need the rest.
Fun fact: Katatonia likely lifted Cure riffs on Dance of December Souls.Source? Anders admits it in this interview: https://youtu.be/pfnMbedk_8s?si=hoqHSIJWRKGlqTg9&t=197
>>129764591Yes, thanks god, his voice is a perfect fit for this album.
>>129769746You can hear what Jonas would've sounded like on BMD, courtesy of For Funerals to Come.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejbXjxaC-0YI don't think anyone would shit on his performances on December Souls. The dude was blowing his voice out over that shit, I think the passion was there.
>>129764200>Brave Murder Day>first 3 tracks are called Brave, Murder and DayBravo Jonas
>>129769806Also the first October Tide album which is the last time he did harsh vocals on anything I think
>>129764200better catatonia coming through
>>129769929>October TideMan, that first album's a minor classic. Their first reunion one's pretty solid too.As for it being the last time he did harsh vocals, I never knew what to make of that rerelease of their first demo back in like 2021 or whatever. Like, was that an actual day and date rerecording? Would be sick if Jonas & Anders actually pulled this off in the 2020s:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akgmzirtahs
>>129769943>>129767757>that strong Welsh acceont
I liked the album Renkse did with the guy from The Pineapple Thiefhttps://youtu.be/P66D8U7xxh8?is=aOCH6Jz9-3Epd6tQ
>>129764200Day is the best goth metal song ever made.
>>129770604That song is not metal at all
>>129770604I always like when metal bands include one soft song on the album
We saw it all pass by and you went by and I can't control anything
>>129769551So what? Mahler took tons of themes from Wagner.
>>129768809I dunno, I saw them a couple years ago and they did a few from the Jester Race - Colony period
>>129771482It's not an attack, just a neat fact that a lot of people probably didn't know, at least based on Anders' estimation. It's kinda neat more than anything.
>>129770604Thats not scarlet heavens
Things are getting strange, I'm starting to worryThis could be a case for Mulder and Scullyall i've heard of them, but that ones a banger
>>129771251Like a slow scenery I'm losing all my faithIn lifeless motion you're walking like you're dead
>>129772930Interesting as that song is, no one talks about Quiet World. I think that one's underrated as hell.
>>129774178Quiet World is the best song they made.
>>129774187>tfw four numbers staring back at me, displaying the mediocrity of my presence
>>129774218Maybe next time you'll get quads
>>129774233Maybe then Katatonia could become /mu/core.
>>129764200Depressed faggot shit. You have to be queer to like this.
>>129774258You can always just stick to the stuff before 1998 like every other knuckledragger. There's a few good death-doom albums and EPs for you over there still.
>>129774292NTA but those are probably even more depressing lol
>>129774297I would say Discouraged Ones to Last Fair Gone Deal was their most down in the dumps era. At least the stuff before it sounds hard while being sad. That 3 album streak is just an open shotgun to the soul.
For me it's Sulfurhttps://youtu.be/ia2BODFtwPo?is=6l65N4lAkTpmQsId
>>129774417One of those albums where the b-sides are better than the main songs. Sulfer, March 4th, and Help Me Disappear should've been the last 3 songs.
>>129774530Interesting. I'm a big March 4 guy but The Future of Speech is one of my all time favorites from the band. I do have this general opinion with Night is the New Day though - if you took that album's last 3 songs (yes, even Day and Then The Shade) and replaced them with Sold Heart and Ashen, it would be my favorite album of all time. The relatively weak final leg of the album is only reason it isn't.
>>129774764Last Fear Deal is good but i tend to stop it after Future of Speech. Those last 3 songs just don't do it for me.
>>129774779>Those last 3 songs just don't do it for meToo much fucking emo? Jokes aside, I love the swirling guitar sound on Passing Bird, and while Don't Tell A Soul had to grow on me I think it works specifically as a closer. Funny thing about Sweet Nurse, Jonas felt the need to write that one and We Must Bury You so that the album wasn't so overwhelmingly personal. Every other song is basically about the shit going down in his life at the time.
>>129774258>sad music is... LE BAD
I'm not surprised they were fans of Jeff BuckleyNightmares By The Sea
>>129776627https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR0IrkmnSvs
>>129764200I only like the ones with Cerys singing. The stuff posted is weird incelcore.
>>129777743kek people already made that joke
>>129776640Tonight's Decision is such an underrated album. I feel like people skip over that one when talking about Discouraged Ones and Last Fair Deal Gone Down. I think it's arguably their bleakest album.
