How come X Japan never really had international success in their prime, but Loudness did? Loudness somehow managed to break onto the Billboard in the 80s while X Japan never did despite X Japan being the far bigger band in Japan and more influential in the long run?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXCpPpPCW4chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Uao7lrSxo
>>129771768loudness sung in englishx japan didn't
When I was a teenager I was really bummed when I found out that this music video wasn't from an actual anime and was just a music video.Funnily enough for whatever reason they played this song when Trump visited Japan earlier this yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1dcM1pGZS8
>>129771785This makes sense.But also, X Japan's aesthetic was very distinctly Japanese. They were aiming for the Japanese audience, and I'm not sure, but I wonder if X Japan might actually be bigger than Loudness in Japan - I certainly think they're probably more influential, because they started the entire Visual kei genre. It seems like Loudness were going for that international hair metal market, and X Japan weren't, or that's the impression I get. I think it's also worth pointing out that I hear way more about X Japan now because of the massive influence they had on Visual kei. Loudness seems to have died with hair metal, but X Japan's style evolved beyond the hair metal era, into basically alternative rock.That said, all that that hair metal stuff always seemed lame compared to the amazing Japanese noise punk of that era with GISM, Confuse, Hanatarash/Boredoms, The Gerogerigegege, Guitar Wolf, Melt-Banana, etc., plus in extreme metal there was the incredible band Sigh. That stuff was so amazing that it's hard for me to understand why anyone really cares about Japanese glam metal/Visual kei. That stuff is just so amazing
East asians are nerds. Metal is for cool guys that drink and smoke cigarettes and fail school. Sorry, but asians will never be cool guys like that.
Dunno but I saw them in my country back in their 2011 world tour and it was amazing.
>>129771768:o
>>129772948>that drink and smoke cigarettes and fail school.that's like 90% of japanese black metal lmao
>>129772189>That stuff was so amazing that it's hard for me to understand why anyone really cares about Japanese glam metal/Visual keiTo be fair, visual kei WAS partially born out of Japan's punk scene. You can find bands predating the speed metal stuff of the late 80s with proto-visual kei aesthetics.Let's also not forget that X Japan literally started as a d-beat/crust band before they were a power metal band and even back then they still had a glam/visual kei aesthetic, pic related.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jUslT2dfYA
>>129774238Visual kei originated from various styles and genres that were around during the 80s in Japan. Bands like Boowy, UP-BEAT, Unicorn, Buck-Tick, Uchoten, Kome Kome Club, Seikima II, etc. all directly lead to what eventually became visual kei.
>>129774290I get that. I was just getting the impression from the person I'm responding to's post that visual kei was just a 1:1 replica of glam rock when it's formation in the 80s was like an unholy conglomeration of punk rock, speed/glam metal and new wave.
>>129772189>But also, X Japan's aesthetic was very distinctly Japanese.Only during the first two albums. They were still called "X" back then. When the third one came out a lot of old school Japanese fans hated them for becoming a "yankee band". That's when the teenage girls started flooding in too.
>>129774305Just throwing it out there since there's a lot of vk fans who hype up X-Japan like the ultimate progenitors to visual keihttps://youtu.be/UjohQXC5x0U?si=Nd6Nclm_ZLpC3oeYhttps://youtu.be/yLbWXxj8T5I?si=pIjr008Do7iicnXghttps://youtu.be/cOhZlhj07Bc?si=hvsccP8MdnyhU4PKhttps://youtu.be/m6LnJz2xuEs?si=It7t10RgwRBwerSChttps://youtu.be/l8l4D3nhgKE?si=-IGVv7LAK032cyyehttps://youtu.be/bQp8nmfk-uk?si=5EJrPQp9vidmGInshttps://youtu.be/hgEL3go0axY?si=WAsLoGkoyLLm2SgXThere's way more I could post but that's the gist of it. (Pic are The Street Sliders, didn't post any links to their music)
>>129774238>X Japan literally started as a d-beat/crust bandwow, I didn't know that! Thanks for filling me in
>>129774238>start as Discharge worship in the mid 80s>pivot into speed, power and prog metal in the late 80s>japs only really remember them for their 90s mom-rock power ballad era
