In retrospect, this album was more influential than anything The Beatles have ever done.
>>129786611Not a high bar to clear desu
>>129786611>in retrospect If you really want to make such a comparison you need to wait like 50 more years, dude. As yet the influence and dominance of EDM could be considered a blip.
Even if you're baiting and even if it's ridiculous to say that it was this album that did it, Skrillexian dubstep was indeed much more influential than anything The Beatles have ever done. Even if we relativize all metrics for scale, more people were affected by it than The Beatles, both directly and indirectly.
>>129786769>even if we relativize all metrics for scaleYeah? And how do you suppose we'd do that, poindexter?
>>129786611No fishing on private property. Checked.
>>129786769>scaleIf we look at YouTube views, Bangarang, Make It Bun Dem, Purple Lamborghini and Where Are Ü Now have far more views than The Beatles biggest video. Skrillex most popular sits at 1.3 billion views, his 2nd at 980 million vs The Beatles who are at 560 million.and 442 million.
>>129786861Popped my ass
>>129787077>The Dark Knight has a higher IMDB score than the Godfather! uh huh
>>129787142Only uncs still use IMDB, Godfather is higher than TDK on Letterboxd.
lenon proclaimed that the beatles were more important than jesus, which is a pompous thing to claim and clearly not even true. half a century later, skrillex drops it hard, catapulting electronic music to new heights and a dominance that has now lasted longer than beatlemania. it inspired an organic culture of memes and was unavoidable without the help of snobby 'critics' telling you it was good. it's a decisive dubstep victory helmed by skrillex.
>>129787179>lasted longer than beatlemaniaNigga, you mean the phenomenon still ongoing?
>>129786611The perfect album for MW2 quickscope montages.
>>129786611I hated that album but I can respect the skill required to create it.
>>129787201only uncs still care about beatles
>>129786763>As yet the influence and dominance of EDM could be considered a blip.46 years of EDM influencing music not enough for you?
>>129787385>46 years of EDM influencing music not enough for you?I didn't realize Skrillex came out 46 years ago?
>>129786611That entire genre died out after 3 years, you absolute fucking retard. There's nothing less influential than that crap.
>>129787578There's dubstep and house on that album and house is still the biggest genre in europe after popslop. He changed the way people do sound design and produce their tracks while still being the clear standout in everything genre he's touched. The Beatles blend in with other stuff of their genre.
Has anyone here listened to Skrillex's new stuff? It's honestly really great.
>>129787806I dohttps://youtu.be/qinR_BFupcU?si=ALcMt4nGzLxsg2gc
>>129787320>skillLMAO
>>129787651You can't post selfies here, y'know?
>>129789401Are you comparing a DJ Set to actually producing the tracks? Do uncs think electronic music grows on trees or what
>>129786611weak bait + not music. Imagine forcing yourself to be part of /mu/ if you can’t handle real music
>>129791724>>129789401if you guys dont know, that album was mostly ghostproduced. skrillex is just a retarded 'hipster' face whose image would sell it. of course he'sa hack
>>129791735By who, non of the artists mentioned had a similar sound
>>129791734Uncs killed /mu/, we used to love bleep
>>129791745it's on fucking wikipedia, you dulltard jesus fuck
>>129786611 (Checked)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l09I8I8Nc0E
>>129791781Not dubstep lmao, if anything it was strictly contained in the general
>>129791783it says they remixed the tracks
>>129786611The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
Imagine thinking skrillex influenced more people to start playing music than the fucking beatles. I get that people hate them on this site but jfc
>>129792713I think people knowing Skrillex's music exists has inspired them more often to actually look up his music and give it a spin than The Beatles have. It is simply much easier to enjoy Skrillex and in a wider variety of moods.
>>129792741Could just be you're dumb as dogshit
>>129792741Uh okay?
>>129786611Actually influential musicians:>Louis Armstrong>The Beatles>KraftwerkSkrillex made a meme album in a short-lived genre.
>>129792741you have millennial syndrom. millennials are aesthetically inept, they can't just learn to enjoy good media, arts and fashion, past a certain age. those who posted on /mu/ in the golden age successfully escaped it, but you can't be helped, sorry.
Paul said that when my bloody valentine made loveless they were in their ‘strawberry fields forever phase’ of songwriting or something like that
>>129792752>>129792760>>129792765I am merely making an observation. Personally, I would much sooner put on The Beatles than Skrillex, even if I'm not really a huge fan of either. This thread is debating who's more influential however, and it seems you all tacitly agree with me that one has already irreversibly eclipsed the other.
>>129792741You're right when I'm sad I can listen to wuhhhhh wahhhhh wubwubwubwub when i'm happy i can listen to wubwubwubwub nyeeeerrrrrr wahhhhhhhhh when i'm angry i can listen to bwebwebwebwebwebwe wub wub wub bwebwebwebwebwe when i'm relaxed i can listen to wub wub wub wub doot doot doot doot... AH I'M BURNING ALIVE waahhhhhhhhhhhh weeerrrrrrrr wooooooooo
>>129792741This. When you listen to The Beatles, it's always the same, it's a guitar song, someone sings over guitars and a guitar always sounds like a guitar. It gets boring. When you listen to Skrillex however, it's always different, and every song has a multitude of different basses or synths that you can enjoy. It is designed to be fun while having creative and unique sound design. + he got based Anya on his music videos, The Beatles could never.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI1ondD4FGU
>>129792922Dubstep was always able to convey every emotion possible with ease, and has brought us better melodies than even the most sophisticated classical pieces.
>>129792922Most mentally balanced people who might feel down actually don't necessarily seek out something depressing. That's a high odds way of making it worse through over-identification. If you feel like shit and go for wubs you might actually realize how goofy your downer thoughts are and get out of your rut faster.
>>129792986>When you listen to The Beatles, it's always the same, it's a guitar songRevolution 9
>>129792986Tomorrow Never Knows, Blue Jay Way, Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, Good Night, Within You Without You, Good Day Sunshine, etc... all don't have guitars and sound pretty fucking different from one another. You know nothing about music
>>129786763Skrillex inspired an entire generation of musicians who have since taken his approach and production techniques to many genres and if you don't hear it then you can't be helped
>>129793030They all have the same vibe, it's background music.
>>129793051Oi burial what’s up
>>129793082Every dubstep shit sounds like call of duty montage music bro, OP is trying to hold Skrillex as the modern day herbie hancock but that shit has aged badly and only takes you straight back to 2010 instead of being a cornocopia of different sounds styles and moods ooooh
>>129792922>You're right when I'm sad I can listen tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYM2VI-3u8A>when i'm happy i can listen tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5SD2GPckkU>when i'm angry i can listen tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn43RzcQEj8>when i'm relaxed i can listen tohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWjrnWCUIk
>>129793089Burial inspired INDIEfags, Skrillex started a revolution
>>129793105true. burial is the only dubstep artist who made real music. and no, there isn't some 'hidden' or 'patrician' dubstep that is close to his.
>>129792796Skrillex has been moderately-highly influential in a very bad way, considering the dated EDM culture of 30-40 year olds, but it is absolutely not prestigious or cool in any way, and only a part of it is influenced by skrillex. It's mostly, as others said, CoD music and the garbage they use in esport tournaments. Proper Rave culture has entirely different influences. And the Beatles influence is undoubtedly higher and infinitely more prestigious.
>>129793174burial isnt dubstep
>>129793222His dubstep was a revolution in sound design that you hear on the charts to this day if it's even remotely eletronic. The Beatles were incredibly basic in terms of sound design and it was not one of the fab four themselves who were even responsible for that, but their producers.You can disparage it as video game hype music but then why does everyone know about it? Why does everyone end up feeling the impact in the music after it?The Beatles' 'GOAT' album was a direct reacton to Pet Sounds btw. I don't care about this autistic debate but it's true. They went: 'we wanna do this, too'.Consider that The Beatles got big by being 'thing, Britain :O' with American rock music in a time when this worked on young women, then pivoted to psychedelic music where they were also not pioneers but just 'one of the best' in retrospect at best. Now contrast it to Skrillex with his dubstep. Actually completely novel and inspired.
>>129793222unc thinks beatles are cool
>>129793316doesn't matter. it's better than all of Dubstep and Garage
>>129793320>sound designhmm, yes I much prefer the more timeless approach of the Beach Boys, but Revolver is extremely influential in sound design, melodies and overall writing. The original Shoegaze scene was a Beatles 'revival', for example (even though most brit bands through the 80s were influenced by the beatles in some ways). Skrillex and his clones are unlistenable to a person who is into albums or acclaimed stuff, and certainly not listenable from the perspective of people (urban kids, celebs) who are into voguish stuff. It's dated background slop for people who are far beyond the trends. It has no prestige.
>>129793424>It's dated background slop for people who are far beyond the trendsbeatles and beach boys? yes.
>>129793444no. beach boys is more for music nerds, but beatles? Popular among Zoomers, Gen X and Boomers, even though they attract some hate from Metal people.
>>129793462xD
>>129793482state your country, age and social status/profession and I tell you if your perspective is valid.
>>129793489no you disgusting federal agent! not dying for Israel this year!!
>>129786611You're probably thinking of this record.
>>129793498then why start the argument? you're a probably a hillbilly in late 20s or early 30s. what the hell do you know about zoomer taste?
>>129793444>Beatles>DatedHere Comes The Sun got 1 billion streams from Zoomers on Spotify in a span of 1 year o algo
>>129793359You probably never listened to anything similar to it and only whats popular on here.
>>129793538show me 5 songs that rival Burial - Untrue
>>129793534>from zoomersSpotify is now ubiquitous among boomers and all they listen to are prefab rock playlists
>>129793514>why start an argument if you dont wanna doxx yourselfAlso oldest zoomers are 28 now so rethink your statement
got into this thread ready to just enjoy some autists baiting each other for the nth time but I'm actually convinced there's at least way more to skrillex's influence than i first believed. at the very least the beatles are at best really popular while trivially influential
>>129793545I can tell you never attended a popular uni and never lived in a major urban area. I could collect 50,000 instances of attractive zoomers using Here Comes The Sun in their Insta and TikTok posts for you. It's just so obvious to anyone who is not a millennial unc in some backwater town, that the Beatles and rock in general are infinitely more in vogue than anything related to Skrillex, lol.
>>129793544https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz8Kp_yELg0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ENNbC_UmEMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcOWNYDbnzwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KandVSZbZAMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOtCKEPc6FA
>>129793594>1 instant skip. weak bait>2again zero effort. leagues below Burial>3I'll stop there, lol
>>129793612>guys do i fit in yet i only like the album thats constantly spammed here and everything else bad even though its the same but gets less recognition on here :D
>>129793612you only like burial cause you're depressed
>>129793612>i'm so above this plebeian shit heh i like CEREBRAL musictoo bad you stopped before you got to 5. you'd have to be completely soulless not to feel that one
>>129793631You are either baiting constantly or unable to understand what makes music acclaimed or generally liked on places like /mu/. Sit through the songs you posted and only pay attention to the drums, nothing else. Compare it to Untrue.
>>129793664>why dubstep drums different to garage drumsthis mogs half the burial albumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeyDhIu3km8
>>129793664>unable to understand what makes music acclaimed or generally liked on places like /mu/speaking of the board that still shills autechre in 2026
>>129793682generic background music. nothing going on there. the cool thing is that music people remember burial and rate it highly, while your stuff is just ignored. I don't even have to convince anyone.
>>129793664>what makes music acclaimed or generally liked on places like /mu/nah you just have a twisted worldview, possibly brought on by the romanticization of whatever you think this 'board culture' ismove on, you'll find better music soon enough
>>129793664>acclaimed or generally liked on places like /mu/Reverse baiting because you think you're being baited eh? This is the precise moment where only Skrillex fits the vibe. He anticipated this
>>129793682Untrue is not garage you noncebegging man to go to the club just once
>>129793692When I used to hang out with the rave kids after school, they liked to put on Burial. They always tried to copy his drum patterns in Ableton. /mu/? I don't think they ever heard of it. It's just that any person who is into real music will prefer Burial over whatever the fuck you just posted there
>>129793711it's all just garage and 2step beats. just the sounds he uses make it less obvious and you dont get it cause you dont actually know and enjoy music, just depression sounds
>>129793701>is popular and high rating in rym so i must like it but i shall not look deeper into this genre that i apparently tell myself i like
>>129793718I'll repeat: don't know what garage sounds like, go to the club, noncehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=VcxjNQxf0Uo
>>129793731spot on
>>129793711It is, its garage and then he copied some deep wubs from Skreams tracks
>>129793701It isn't about /mu/ or the board culture. Burial is enjoyed by genuine fans of music. Hence Future garage was created around the time skrillex got popular simply to 'save' the style of Garage/Dubstep that is actually listenable.
>>129793745Okay, name 5 other Garage tunes.
>>129793742sounds exactly like burials archangel drumbeat but he put more reverb on itbut youre right, most of the tracks on Untrue don't even have drums, why is he brought up in this thread
>>129793731>>129793744no, I'm the one who you're arguing with and I have a large UK Garage playlist and several Dubstep playlists from when I was 13 (in 2015). I can safely say, none of it is real music. Actually, I could still listen to the Garage playlist. Will do rn
>>129793664this is one of the most pathetic reasons to prefer one thing over the other. because you imagine it fits better with the snobby sensibilities of an internet forum..it just dawned on me that these places hate 'brostep' for no other reason than it being actually fun and enjoyable. it's not intelligent enough for you and you feel smarter by disliking it and liking other shit>>129793746>Burial is enjoyed by genuine fans of musicthere you go again
>>129793772>fun and enjoyablethere is a HUGE incel epidemic in the western world rn. that's a lotta depressed dudes. of course they're gonna HATE fun
>>129793763>electronic not music unga>guitar not music bunga>piano not music ungabunga>hitting rock, like drum, drums music!
>>129793772anon, nobody actually cares about these lists and board cultures. It's just that anyone who frequently listens to and creates real music will immediately detect the special qualities of Burial's Untrue. The shit that person (you) shared is very far from it. Lazy production, no concept, no real time and place behind it, no hints of 'songwriting'.
>>129793772>it just dawned on me that these places hate 'brostep' for no other reason than it being actually fun and enjoyable.The reason why people hated it back in the day was that it displaced a culture and vibe they genuinely enjoyed, filling it with sweaty normies.But nowadays it's as dead and buried as dubstep is, so that isn't really a reason anymore.
also there's a huge difference in how people listen to music. if you just sit with your headphones on all the time, you're gonna go with different music than if you blasted your stereo and did stuff.
>>129793789>displaced a cultureall cultures have now been displacednothing is sacred anymoredeal with it
>>129793772>it just dawned on me that these places hate 'brostep' for no other reason than it being actually fun and enjoyable. it's not intelligent enough for you and you feel smarter by disliking it and liking other shitYep it's always been like this. I like Skream but go to any of his youtube videos and its full of "THIS IS REAL DUBSTEP AND REAL MUSIC NOT THIS WHACKY CRAZY ROBOT TRANSFORMERS SEX NOISE" like their wubwubwubwubs are more sophisticated than actual unique and creative sound design of the Brostep tracks. It's less fun, you feel depressed, wubwub deep dubstep and this Burial slop is the equivalent of walking through the grey streets of Birmingham on a rainy monday morning. While Brostep is a friday night in Rio.
>>129793799learn to read.
>>129793787thats just your bias since you never bothered to look deeper into the genre, so names like skream or joker dont even tell you anything. youre a tourist of the genre.
>>129793807British folks have forgotten they were party central at one point, now they just obey the drudgery instead of rebelling against it.
>>129793832you're arguing with like 3 people here just fyi
>>129793832I already knew about skream when I was in middle school. I don't hear real quality in his songs. Post his best stuff that would rival Burial and I reconsider
>>129793832Ah, yes. Skream and Joker.Now those are the dubstep deep cuts.Remember to also shame him for not knowing James Blake.
>Skrillex vs Beatles thread>uncs bringing up that beatless Burial album out of nowhere that isnt even dubstepThis board is so predictable. Surprised no one brought up The Prodigy and Aphex Twin yet since we only like those when it comes to electronic music because we were children when those were popular!
>>129793956so far, you haven't been able to post ONE Dubstep track that fulfills the requirements of being real music. as of 3/26/2026, Untrue remains the only piece of real music of the Dubstep and Garage scene.
>Untrue remains the only piece of real music of the Dubstep
>>129793966>...remains the only piece of real music...spoken like the truest tourist
>>129793966i know it's hard for you to know what you dont know, but you dont know a lot and you should know that
>>129793982>>129793976still not a tourist. I've listened to a lot of Garage and Dubstep. it's shit. My opinion is backed not only by the forums and rating sites, but also by the rave community and my social environment.
>>129793993im just one of the posters, im just laughing at you for that retarded call to authority.>real music fanslol fucking retard
>>129793993Then why did Burial never become as popular as others?
>>129794004why is Imagine Dragons popular?
>>129793966
>>129794014For the same reason brostep is: it speaks to people on an instinctive, non-pretentious level. Imagine Dragons for when you're going through some shit or self-reflect, and dubstep when you're having a great time and go crazy.
>>129786611stop it substep poster
>>129793993>backed not only by the forums and rating sitesand your favorite movies are godfather, come & see, harakiri, and shawshank
>>129794022umm no, if you listen to ID you should be banned>>129794016I liked Innocence in seventh grade. smart choice and arguably real music, but not on Burial's level
>>129794030
Skrillex directly influenced the music production of artists like Kanye West, Labrinth, Bring Me The Horizon, Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish, Flume, Porter Robinson, ASAP Rocky, Black Eyed Peas, Chris Brown, and Flo Rida.The Beatles directly influenced the music production of... The Beach Boys and maybe Coldplay.
>>129794180I block your threads from now on. the meme isn’t interesting anylonger
>>129794071Genuinely unlistenable.
>>129793129All this shit sounds the same to me
>>129795043time to visit the otologist
Kryptic Minds mogged the fuck out of everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O3-8Gpr9UA
>>129795570True but don't let >>129793612 see this he will complain about the lack of reverb on the drums.
>>129795316Time to get better taste, it's not 2011 anymore unc you don't need to listen to wahhh wuuhhhh wub anymore
>>129796433what else should i listen to, 2slimey?
being 9 and listening to skrillex for the first time sounds fun af
Skrillex got a generation of retarded teenagers into noise music and deserves respect for it
>>129786611Ah yes, I remember that hit song from this album called...help me out here.
>>129786611I know its bait so now bump for you, but imagine if there was someone who unironically believed this. I guess it’s possible, I did see a vid about that reddit mod who said that reddit moderators should be treated like celebrities and influencersIt’s not 2012 anymore, you can listen to real music now :)
>>129799786everyone knows scary monsters and nice sprites
EDM isn't music
>>129793321Chapel Hill represent
>>129804700it is
Notice how Skrillex still drops bangers like this but The Beatles are radio silent? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GzAJrz9T4s
>>129807691see >>129794446
>>129809499Wrong
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