How did her musical influence and legacy vanish so quickly? She was the biggest pop star in the world in the early-2010's, but it feels like she is barely remembered at all.
>>129789026It was disposable and interchangeable with any other artist. She has no artistry. She doesn’t write or produce anything she does. She is a bad singer and bad performer. She’s the avatar of a product.
>>129789026>hasn't released anything in almost 20 yearsi don't fucking know
her music was pretty one-dimensional and she pretty much kept a low profile in her public life other than getting punched out by Chris Brown.
>>129789043/thread pretty much
>>129789026She hasn’t released an album in ten years
>>129789026That's the way it's supposed to be.
>>129789026Her Super Bowl show was pretty popular iirc
>>129789026Other than having a funny accent and looking exotic (seriously though, I haven't seen anyone else who looks like her) her music was generic disposable entertainment.
>>129789026She realized she's a much better businesswoman.
She's so much less obnoxious than Beyonce for some reason. Probably because critics don't worship her.
>>129789026Replace her with (depending on the decade) Patti Page, Olivia Newton-John, Sheena Easton, Britney Spears, etc.tl;dr disposable meat puppets the record label uses for a while when they're young and cute and then tosses overboard for the next disposable meat puppet
She was at least harmless and didn't try to pretend she was Joni Mitchell like certain of her contemporaries who shall not be named.
Because she's not a great artist. She's a fine singer and entertainer, but even at her peak was never particularly tasteful nor innovative. She'll be forgotten far more quickly than Beyoncé, who is not herself a great artist, but who was far more protective of her image and catalogue, and did a lot more to establish a signature voice.Besides, it's not like pop music is real art anyway. It's disposable entertainment for teenage girls and lonely men.
>>129794247>when they're young and cuteNow she's old and sexy posing in lingerie for her stores.
>>129789026Because like Pitbull, Katy Perry, Kesha, Flo Rida etc. they never had any talent and were propped up by their producers who are still making tracks behind the scenes, just for new faces.
>>129789026She's currently the most played female artist on Spotify, ahead of Taylor Swift.
>>129794476She got carried by Calvin Harris.
21st century mainstream pop, especially in the Anglosphere and especially especially in the US is entirely vapid, 100% commercial and has barely had any cultural impact while relevant and current, let alone years after the artist has stopped being popular. Even someone phenomenally successful like Taylor Swift, the instant she stops releasing music and touring, maybe she just decides she's got enough money, she will vanish from the public consciousness like a fart in the wind, leaving nothing behind. People will ask what was her impact? What issues did she raise or tackle? In what direction did she nudge culture or society? Even in a much narrower sense, how did she change or shape popular music for the future? The answer will be silence.
>>129794529top 40 mainstream pop has always been vapid and disposable, dude
i really like this remix of Umbrella https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39JYBXRXmTw
>>129794529Pop music is supposed to be fun and entertaining.
>>129794545nah. not in the same way, and definitely not all of it. sure theres always been crap but I really believe that in previous decades, specifically the 90s and before, a lot of artists left the music scene and sometimes wider culture in a different place than when they arrived, at least in part because of their impact. Madonna, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Nirvana, even the fucking Spice Girls fit that description to a certain extent. whats different about a post-Rihanna world? fuck all.
>>129794545That it has.
thats mf rihanna, bitch! she will always be remembered. show some respect
>>129794579Unc nostalgia
A 'lennial party is always three beers away tops from someone blasting Rihanna and everyone vibing along. That's the biggest sign of influence and appreciation a faded popstar can have.
>>129789026wait until the 2030s. That is when the nostalgia will happen. Have to be away for at least 20 years or so for it to kick in.
>>129794594but see, even there Pat will always be remembered by history as that fucker who made shitty white R&B covers. Ed Sheeran doesn't even have a good trollface history to him, he's just mindless background noise.
Rihanna has never had a particularly striking/memorable image, but she does have enough hits and classics for two full CDs without anyone crying filler.
>>129794635What I mean is bad 50s pop had a definite place in history as a foil for/proof of why rock-and-roll happened. Rihanna doesn't have that, her and ES just kind of exist and affected nothing. The music doesn't stand on its own nor did it inspire any kind of reaction against it.
She makes billions with her makeup line or whatever she does
>>129794670ask a zoomer or lennial if they know any 50s pop artists and no one can answer
>>129794695In all fairness, Ranjeesh, I probably can't name any Bollywood stars either.
>>129794670that's more because zoomers have no T so they can't make their own Elvis
>>129794670Rihanna is an important iteration of the popstar in that she was not yet a popslut, at least by modern standards. She was also the first to so effectively do interracial crossovers in pop, n.b. with a rapper.
>rihanna has no cultural impact108 million monthly spotify listeners says otherwise, us chadlennials love her musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg
>>129794529>>129794579The difference is this - prior to the millennium, some kind of rebellion, controversial or provocative position or image, social commentary or protest was often an integral part of an artists appeal, even in the mainstream and even if it was done cynically and for commercial advantage. Now all that is studiously and intentionally avoided except in the most milquetoast and carefully curated way. Controversy is something to be ducked and minimised at every opportunity, not courted and cultivated.
the last Rihanna album was pretty decent because she had the creative control to do whatever she wanted with it but most of her stuff was mindless disposable singles
>>129794545Not always, sometimes like in the early 70s it could be really good and had legit talents on there.
