They have got to be one of the oddest bands I have listened to. Their music isn't even all that experimental or abrasive but there's something so off kilter about it, it's got enough in common with what you'd expect from a post-punk band to not feel all that foreign but there is something so fucking weird about them. I can't ever decide wether I actually enjoy listening to them or if I just admire them from an artistic perspective. Mark E. Smith has one of the most unique voices in all of music.
>>129791109He's like an old bloke expressing his troubles out loud at a tavern.
>>129791109>>129791175A boring booger eating retard not being entertaining at a tavern
Took me years to really hear what people had said that Pavement was immitating them on their first album, what was funny was I was a huge early Pavement fan and listened to a good bit of the Fall but I just didn't really connect it and I was a musician, really though I liked Pavement the most for Summer Babe and the more feelzy stuff whereas the Fall songs they made were good but obviously sounded better like the Fall, New Place in Hell personal fave
>>129791175>oooooh let's go to ye olde tavern, it's sooo quaintIt's called a pub, you toff wanker
>>129791281>not being entertaininggo to six flags you clapping mong
This guy is like Jesus to me. Do you think if I take drugs I'll be able to hallucinate a conversation with him?
Thoughts on 10's Fall records?A lot of madness in general, with MES developing an even more idiosyncratic style at the mic with his prosodic rock enriched by squeaks, interjections, growlings and with the group writing great new pages in the book of styles like surf rock-garage-krautrock-rockabilly.The Fall's albums of the 2010's - Your Future OurClutter, Ersatz GB, Re-Mit, The Remainderer, Sub-Lingual Tablet, Wise Ol Man and 2017's New Facts Emerge - were thought to be a mess, which is why they will prove fascinating for many years to come.https://youtu.be/q3becwjJCh8
>>129791281but enough about you
Thoughts on 90's Fall? The decade starts with not trying to repeat themselves. Extricate and Shit Work expanded the palette sound incorporating more dance-y elements and a contemplative middle age view; Code: Selfish got more raw and incorporated a pronounced techno sound in contrast with the alt-grunge guitar return of rock gibberish; Infotainment Scan is even moore rooted in techno; Middle Class Revolt its a decreasing of electronics elements and keeping the ear candyness melodies in tracks eg like 15 Ways, Reckoning or You're Not Up Too Much; Cerebral Caustic a return to a more guitar oriented sound and a venomous attitude (this one is praised a return to form for some); and with Light User Syndrome/Levitate/Marshall Suite starts a new chapter with a spiritually/attitudinal return to early Fall (not a sonic return cause as i said they never tried to repeat that 70's-early 80's sound) with a take no prisoners/madness attitude and keeping the electronic music elements that started with Extricate (now with the added ingredients of jungle, drum n bass, breakbeat) along with rock music. You can say 90's Fall is different from 70's-80's but still represents one of the most exciting periods of rock music (something similar can be said about the 00's).1990https://youtu.be/WzAOiA4dH_o1991https://youtu.be/XUE0mrs550c1992https://youtu.be/7mqH8lsubdo1993https://youtu.be/zfi4sNTTAjY1994https://youtu.be/EqjCXsVkLu41995https://youtu.be/3J9mLMssnPchttps://youtu.be/6ooc0R4fEWM1996https://youtu.be/vn8Eknu8Bxchttps://youtu.be/R_tSeSWonow1997https://youtu.be/HLNT6GtUbe81999https://youtu.be/Pjdog5tErS4
>>129794860yfoc is good the rest are crap. MES should have died at YFOC and it would be his blackstar>>129795180extricate is incredible.
There was this weird phenomena that started in late '70s England, lighten up by the mid '80s, where a fresh face performer sounds like a codger well over twice his age. Shane Macgowan, Elvis Costello, Matt Johnson, and MES being the biggest. Oft wonder what that was about since it never happened before or ever again really
>>129796511being raised by ww2 soldiers who were raised by ww1 soldiers
>>129791109Bump
bump
>>129791109They’re quite simple to understand really. MES loved big hooks and repetition, he would get his band to come up with riffs and give notes like “do it faster” or “make the guitar do the twangy thing”. Then he would fit his poetry over it. He was a contrarian by nature and feared becoming a nostalgia act so he was always trying out new styles within this narrow working method.
>>129796551Fair play. There was another one in the back of my head and he only came to me now, Paul Weller
>>129803057>Then he would fit his poetry over it.His vocals are quite melodic in itself
>>129803161Ian dury?
he's great at that style of singing like lou reed. but great exponents of it aren't common, shit like dry cleaning or lcd soundsystem are lame variants of that style. >>129791478Yeah, the group was the biggest influence during pavement early years. malkmus vocal style is influenced by mes too
Steve Hanley was the real hero.
>>129810595top 5 bassist
drives my wife up the curtains when I play it, take that you placebo listening menstrual foid
>>129813142my bf puts up with it but ive never heard him pick it for himself. he tends not to like singers with unusual voices
https://youtu.be/r7tUQ-JAgf4?si=WeEI_X1s5T5iclRN
>>129813142fucking lmao. that music is like crack to women. my wife will also play these generic spotify piano playlists for hours, i feel like i'm living in a funeral home
>>129795180I love 90s Fall about as equally as 80s Fall. I like MES's voice and drawl best in the 90s stuff. Brief return of Brix also led to some great tracks like Bonkers in Phoenix which I love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5iQYM3SADk
>>129791109The three year run from 1986-1988 is fucking insane. The consistent quqality of their regular output is always something to marvel at but that period is my favorite Fall era>Bend Sinister>Hey! Luciani>The Frenz Experiment>I Am Kurious Oranjhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq_ukZzjnSw
>>129810595he should be getting a veterans pension for all those years he spent tolerating marks antics
>>129816833everything from dragnet to bend sinister was pure gold. Frenz was their first bad album (maybe room to live), but then they came back with curious orange, which is top 5. Most bands don't even make 8 albums but MES did 5 hits in a row.
>>129817090I love Frenz Experiment. Guest Informant, Hit the North, Bremen Nacht + more all very good. It does sound noticeably different from other Fall stuff at the time but I dont mind that.
Hex Enduction Hour is their only good album
>>129818361Utter bullshit
>>129818361how can you not like wonderful and frighting world of
>>129813269are you a female fall fan? thats a first
>>129818569im trans
>>129818569that wasn't me replying >>129818582but also im trans.I got into the fall after I trooned tho, if that matters
>>129818569Brix Smith was a female Fall fan.
>>129818716fuck brix and her stupid cash grab band. She only used MES to get famous. Elena is the real goated fall wife
>>129818742Yeah. Brix Smith is a household name. Every Zoomer knows who she is. Billionaires her & MES.
>>129818799well id like her more if she didnt use her relationship with MES to shill her cover band.
>>129803161Mark knoptler too
>>129818742>Elena is the real goated fall wifeThis
>>129818569(biological) female fall fans aren't rare
I love The Fallhttps://youtu.be/_godSE6RJy0?si=uyuVKMNPkgpDrW2b
>>129819555what about non British cisf fall fans? I wonder if MES watched anime.
>>129818582>>129818681how big is your dick
>>129819823used to be 7" now its -7" (just like in lie dream of Casino soul)
>>129819654that pic is from an american tour
>>129819618Thoughts on 10s Fall?
>>129823050Country on the Click/The Real New Fall LP is one of my faves by them.
Thoughts on 00s Fall?
>>129816833This is their only album I like and even then there's a lot of stinkers on here . I imagine people who unironically enjoy the Fall are the same people who listen to The Pop Group
>>129826546I like a couple tunes from then but mostly listen to their early stuff.https://youtube.com/watch?v=1QyNGkrZiCYhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=YxINpOY24-s
>>129826599Its a soundtrack for a ballet so must be measured under that format.
Bump
>>129819562Hot.
I think i'm alone in this but 1978-1983 Fall is truly amazing and one of the best bands ever but then Brix joined and they got progressively worse. The run from Witch Trials to Perverted By Language is fucking God tier.
>>129830638Im the oppositeI think she improved The FallThe Brix and immediate post-Brix stuff (where MES was clearly stil ifnluenced by/writing about her) is my favBut early stuff is undoubtedly fantastic too
>>129830669That seems to be the opinion of most fans.
>>129830677Yeah I like punk and post-punk but IMO Brix probably helped to broaden the horizons of their sound with her pop influence. And one of the things I like best about The Fall is the extensive range of moods and genres they cover. They were already branching out with rockabilly type songs before Brix but still I think she helped with that
>Sacking Scanlon all of a sudden for no real reason at allSeriously wtf did Mark mean by this?
>>129830731it was the last straw
>>129830731he was spiralling at that point. all the booze and speed caught up with him at 40 and he wasn't the same afterwards.
>>129830638why don't you like brix involvement?>>129830729not him but i don't understand this idea of brix adding pop elements when in fact fall always a good ear for a good melody>>129830731no nostalgia>>129831973>>129832054the fall released great music too after scanlon and hanley disappearance
>>129791109In terms of huge and consistent good output they're legit one of the greatest bands ever. Underrated.
>>129817090room to live is a great record too. don't get why is underratedIts tough in home countryCouncils hold the ringD. Bowie look-alikesPermeate car parks>5 hits in a rowmore like 32 hits in a row
one of my fave performanceshttps://youtu.be/StqC3yxY1ck
life is too short to listen to meme loser bands whose biggest contribution is being an influence on a real band. that includes MBV, The Fall, plenty more I'm sure. they are footnote bands, asterisks bands, why the fuck are you going out of your way as a zoomer to talk about The Fall when you've never even listened to a Led Zeppelin album
>>129841008Fall biggest contribution is the music in itself.
>>129841008there was this video on youtube with The Fall playing Blindness on Jools Holland, and right before them was Robert Plant ending his song with some stupid fucking clapping, cue MES and the gang just cut the old hippy off, he looked all surprised and confused. funny. goes without saying that Blindness is better than anything Led Zep ever did.anyway go take your blood thinners you clueless boomer, and go listen to better music like Humble Pie or the Faces or Free or Rory Gallagher, they all shit on Pleb Zeppelin and never disappeared up their own anus in those troubling early 70s years
Traffic, Hawkwind, Quicksilver Messenger Service, The Move (MES approved), even the Who, yeah, who the fuck listens to entry level frauds like loop zoop and actually thinks they're some sort of a credible band lmao
>>129841008Midwit overload
>>129843192that later anecdote is funny and the blindness rendition is huge. on the other led zep is watered down blues music
led zep singer sounds like a faggot
>>129846851him and axl rose doing moaning woman sex sounds is an auto turn off whatever is playing music or me leaving the room
One of my faveshttps://youtu.be/tf2-A7RZXmU
>>129819846u da goat for this post
i like this collaboration he did with Elasticahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_z7PgVDHXg
>>129795261i'm glad we got sublingual tablet and all but i get ya, weather report 2 would be one hell of a send off
>>129791109i am hopelessly in love with the production quirks throughout their history. the cut n paste job in damo suzuki. the space broadcast interjection in paintwork. overdubs in spectre v. rector. bg distorted vocals in svc. tape loops and that bleepy bloopy toy Mark has that appears in like 5 songspair that with Mark's literate bend and his later foray with fucking with his band's amps and no wonder why i've been so obsessed with em. so idiosyncratic they were
>>129850193I like how in "everybody but myself (levitate version) the song is lo fi for like the first 2 mins then when it kicks in it sounds so big.
>>129850193back when working class Brits would be creative and work in the avant-garde instead of being gormless sheep
>>129851537Think MAGAtards.
>>129851761Thanks, leftshit. Very cool! (I upvoted btw)
>>129851777>defending nonces>not gormless sheep
>>129841008MBV is top 5 bands of all time.
