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Ruh-roh

https://www.gnvinfo.com/alchemist-alan-maman-gainesville-big-culture-arts-festival/
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Palestine activists are moral fanatics. Nothing is ever good enough for them.
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>>129797992
It’s just a fucking avocado lmao
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The purely anti-Zionist/pro-Palestinian fanatics are so much more schizophrenic than the average /pol/chud lol
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>>129798050
They literally see “Zionism” everywhere. Siege mentality turned up to 11.
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>>129798062
not unlike incels that see a rainbow and start seething about transpeople
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>>129798092
Cut from the same cloth, exactly.
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He is coming to Montreal for Jazzfest this summer.

I hope he doesn’t get ambushed by protesters.
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>>129797992
Aren’t a lot of rappers and rap fans pro-Palestine?

How do they justify not boycotting Al’s music?
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>>129798221
A lot are but it's still inflated by a loud minority. Hip hop is less a politically involved genre than it is a money-making genre. When you're as good at producing and not meaningfully anti-Palestinian in any way like Al is, there's still plenty of people willing to collab with you in the rap game
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>>129797992
I’m sure the festival owners won’t care that a few self-righteous cunts are boycotting.
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>>129798092
indeed, except the incels are marginalized and the palestine fags are exempt somehow
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>>129797992
Jews invented putting avocados in salad 3000 years ago, goy
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>>129797992
Oh wow, another outlet for activists to show off how self-righteous they are.
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>>129797992
>>129798024
>>129798050
>>129798062
Moral hysteria regarding this issue has blinded everyone.

Read the article and see what The Alchemist is actually being "cancelled" for. All he's accused of is 1. having an Israeli father and a strong Jewish identity, 2. visiting Israel a handful of times, and 3. making a beat tape entitled Israeli Salad that uses samples from Israeli music. He's not accused of inciting violence against Palestinians, stealing their land, demolishing their homes, destroying their olive trees, or torturing them in Israeli prisons. So why is he receiving backlash? Because any association with anything related to Israel is morally implicating to the point at which somebody should be driven out of public life.

This issue operates at a purely social level. It's not like Al violated International Law by making that beat tape. It's purely about what social associations are or aren't acceptable according to the morality of the BDS Movement. So because it operates on a purely social level, it is a kind of consummately anarchist moral panic. People who don't think the way to solve a problem like this is to litigate it politically, but who think that all problems should be solvable through social intercourse, will obviously treat social violations as if they were criminal acts, and they will respond to these "violations" through the most punitive forms of ad hoc social behaviours such as shaming, shunning, spreading innuendos, trying to drive the person out of public life, attacking anyone who affiliates with them, memory hole-ing their entire body of work, trying to dig up anything that person has said or did to justify their cancellation, dogpiling on them online, etc. This is what people who operate principally in the realm of the social and who aren't willing to take things into the realm of the political do. "Cancel culture" itself operates entirely on this basis.
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>>129797992
>https://www.gnvinfo.com/alchemist-alan-maman-gainesville-big-culture-arts-festival/
TIL Al's father was born in Morocco
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>>129797992
Non-issue
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Yikes

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVHO93jCcF4/
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>>129798024
>>129798050
>>129798062
>>129798944
Kikes
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>>129797992
Epstein satanic pedophilic cannibalistic cabal tier art though
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>>129800059
>Because any association with anything related to Israel is morally implicating to the point at which somebody should be driven out of public life.
It's actually pretty hilarious how much the debate about Israel-Palestine has destroyed friendships and relationships. I know a woman who cut it off with her finacé a few weeks after October 7th because he apparently didn't buy the idea what Israel was doing was genocide. She was livid and said she can't be with someone who isn't super dogmatic about Palestine like her.
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>>129800059
The problem is, what we consume becomes the measure of our morality in capitalism. Most moral issues revolve around consumption. "My sóy latte is sooo much more moral than your bacon latte!"
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>>129797992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W6hfkiyD_s
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>alchemist
Does he actually believe that stuff?
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>>129801104
She’s smart
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Alc and Ye should work together. Ye can use the opportunity to fully redeem himself of his antisemitism.
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This album is from like 10 years ago, way before any of this Gaza stuff.
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>>129801104
I left this zoomette because she kept doing shit like having a panic attack when she saw a Sodastream sold somewhere. Anything that made her think of Israel did this. It was years before october 7th mind you.
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>>129797992
Something tells me Al will need to beef up his security next time he performs.

You know there will be dozens of psychotic Palestine activists waiting to put his head on a stick.
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>>129801674
It didn't start on October 7th 2023.
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>>129797992
The same people that called me an antisemite for years are now hysterical Jew haters, make it make sense.
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>>129801957
their hate is performative, as is all that is left
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>>129801957
Those same people still properly evade their own definition of proper antisemitism, which is the belief that jews seek control everything for the purpose worldwide domination. They come pretty close but not quite. They are still hysterical and giving the average jew way too much agency over this because they broaden the definition of Zionism, demanding total conformity to their views.
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>>129801957
and the people that supposedly hated jews for years are now their biggest supporters
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>>129801957
This. I’ve seen leftists engage in borderline Holocaust denial recently.
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>>129802012
A lot of it is narcissistic injury from seeing Jews go from communism to Zionism.
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Alchemist hasn’t made a good beat since like 2010.
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>>129797992
I didn't know there was anything left for cancel culture to cancel. I thought they moved on to bitching about AI, which is ironically the only art form they actually deserve.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg
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>>129801674
BDS Movement began like 20 years prior.
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>>129801176
Every jew's dream is to turn base metals into gold, even if they know it just can't be
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>>129800059
Only solid response ITT.
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>>129801063 (You)
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>>129800171
So he’s not a Khazar but a sand worm?
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>>129800059
Kosher hands types this post.
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>>129798024
Unless you’re a full-blown Hamas supporter who advocates for gunning down random Jews in the streets they consider you a “Zionist”.
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>>129806984
Who wears underwear anymore?
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>>129798050
>anti-Zionist
you mean anti-semetic?
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>>129800059
not reading allat
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>>129809858
You should.
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>>129804831
They cancel anything related to Israel or Jews now.
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>>129797992
I’m sure cancelling The Alchemist will free Palestine.
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KEK!!!!
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Are the Zios in this thread stupid? The Palestinian people have been asking us to boycott “Israel” and Zionists for decades. Do you care that much about hip hop that you’re willing to throw millions of Palestinians under the bus?
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>>129816553
I don't care about Muslims (or Jews for that matter)
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>>129797992
Sick ass album though
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>>129800059
To be honest, we really need to have a discussion on what it means to be complicit in genocide or colonialism or whatever.

There are Palestine activists who will insist even acknowledging Israel exists as a country (regardless if you think it *should* exist or not) is the equivalent of bombing a Gaza hospital. Drinking Starbucks is the equivalent of murdering Palestinian children. Of course it's not, but attacking the symbolic has largely replaced instrumental politics these days, which is also why random Jews who have nothing to do with Israels' crimes get attacked by random people.
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>>129797992
I'm surprised Alc was allowed to be openly Zionist for this long without being cancelled for it.
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>>129800059
shalom
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>>129819956
What did he do that was nefarious?
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>>129820079
Be a Zio.
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>>129797992
Long live Israel, and it's crimes !. Israel has achieved amazing things, its now the number 1 producer of rubble, the number 2 exporter of lies, and has the highest war criminal per capita, great nation.
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>>129798129
Avocados are racist
Only Spics Wetbacks and Native American Niggers should have anything to do with them
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>>129820494
Do realize that it's not accurate at all to say Israelis are identical to white South Africans or Pied-Noirs and other white colonials. Most Israelis had parents and grandparents who came to Israel under very dire circumstances, e.g. they were Holocaust survivors or they survived anti-Jewish attacks in Morocco, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen, or they were war refugees (such as the Ethiopian Jews or Jews who came recently from Russia/Ukraine after that war broke out). Point is, Jews didn't come to Israel to be a white supremacist aristocracy but because they were essentially left with nowhere to go. Does this justify the atrocities against the Palestinians? Not at all. But understand most Israelis don't even see themselves as colonizers. They too have trauma that's just as valid as Palestinian trauma.
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>>129820079
Was Kanye nefarious for making Heil Hitler?
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>>129820815
No. Anyone with half a brain could tell that song was a shitpost.
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>>129820494
Israel doesn't care about your silly goy morals. hope this helps
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>>129820079
The Palestinians have asked us to boycott. Violating BDS like this is a slap in the face to every Palestinian person.
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>>129797992
Someone post this article to Plebbit to get the word out.
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>>129823945
>”the Palestinians” are a monolith
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>>129820494
Israel is a dysfunctional place but the anti-Israel people constantly use buzzwords like 'goy' and dehumanizing language to make them diminished down to war criminal and evil that should be eradicated.

Nowhere on the internet does anyone ever say Israel doesn't represent the Jewish faith, they always combined them to attack American Jews to satisfy their antisemitic bloodlust. Never treats Israel as a holistic entity that has good and bad sides and always forgets its history and treats it like it magically appeared one day and sprayed missiles everywhere. Never mentions how its been attacked 48 years always bombed or sneaky people everywhere trying to suicide bomb them all the time, how that can make people desperate to kill those in a kill or be killed world. Another annoying lack of history, they make fun of that they were the original owners of the land even if its 3000 year old texts and there is historical proof everywhere, just ignore it to keep up the hatred march, say haha 2000 years ago promised, parroted meme, no knowledge, just memes. Meme hatred from a memetic people influenced by Palestinians anonymous on the internet.

Getting sick of seeing every day is just "why won't you hate Jews more guys? you aren't hating them enough". Also memes being their reality lime everything they say about the Talmud was debunked but they don't care, the whole Goyim Slaves thing isn't real don't care.

Whatever helps fuel the hate. Captcha: Star of David lmao
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>>129798092
Rainbows used to be the domain of the church until fags ruined it.
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>>129824683
all israel needs to do to not be hated is to not be evil, its that simple
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>>129801957
kek 10 years ago even implying that the US President was influenced by Israel would get you cancelled and life ruined by the left. Now I've seen lefties unironically praising Hitler. the Sinfest guy is a good example.
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>>129825029
Correct but whatever Israel does it will still be hated. Palestinian nationalists refuse to accept the fact they lost in 1948 and their attempts to take back all of historic Palestine will keep failing.
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>>129825740
Palestine was never a real political entity in the first place. It was originally a British Mandate
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>>129825763
Correct but Palestinian people see their situation as no different than Algerians under French colonialism. They unironically believe they can force 7 million Jews to flee.
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Why are Jews so invested in hip hop when hip hop is a Black art form?
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>>129825981
Modern-day slave ships
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>>129797992
If you care about a hip hop producer’s views on the Middle East you’re a special kind of retarded.
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>>129825763
>>129825790
Something like half of all marriages in Gaza are between cousins. Palestinian IQ is ridiculously low. There’s no way they could ever run a functioning state.
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>>129826182
Those “Jewish slave traders” were a small group of Sephardic elites from the Netherlands who worked for the Dutch East India Company. Claiming that the slave trade was “Jewish” is utter bullshit.
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>>129820815
Nope
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>>129798024
>>129798050
>>129798062
Holy shit they just suffered a fucking GENOCIDE and this is what you're concerned about?
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>>129829906
Western leftists have made more sacrifices for “Palestine” than any other oppressed group. When do the Palestinians reciprocate?
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>>129798024
FPBP
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>>129797992
By this logic, should we cancel every musician who has ever performed in Dubai?
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>loops four bars of old song
>makes millions
so overrated
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>>129836882
That’s every hip hop producer. Beatmaking is basically money laundering.
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>>129801957
Part of it is that Israel has become so deranged and evil that even leftists have finally run out of excuses for them. Another part of it is that, thanks primarily to leftist jews, western countries have become significantly browner and more third-world, and that applies double for left-wing parties - and those demographics have never been pro-Israel. And finally, the fawning worship of Israel is strictly a boomer phenomenon and it will continue to fade away from our politics as they age out.
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>>129837047
US support for Israel was largely due to the Cold War, that’s why. The younger generations see no more “use” for supporting Israel.
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>>129798062
>>129798092
Both the right and left hyperfixate on short-term outrage over long-term political solutions.
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>>129836104
Yes, it's only fair.
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>>129800059
Alc will never be cancelled for one reason and one reason only: he has way too much respect in the rap game as a producer/beatmaker. It's identical to why Kanye has never really been cancelled and has the no.1 album in the world right now despite the past decade of controversies. Both of them are too big of legends to cancel.

The Alchemist has loads of respect from the Black community. I've never seen any Black person ever accuse him of being a culture vulture or claim he treats hip hop in a superficial way like Iggy Azalea or Jack Harlow. Once you have Black people on your side you will never get cancelled.
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>>129801957
Jews became white.
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>>129829906
The point is that 'Zionism' as a concept is widened to the point where jews existing in that area in any form is considered Zionism and thus bad. They're not working towards letting everyone live in harmony there. They've taken a side in a blood and soil battle on the side of the losers, nothing else.
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>>129843263
Yes. Palestinian nationalism is no different from whatever the fuck Bibi wants Israel to be.
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>>129843263
>The point is that 'Zionism' as a concept is widened to the point where jews existing in that area in any form is considered Zionism and thus bad
the only people who think that are rightoids that voted for the kike enabler trump despite seething about jews every day of their lives
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>>129845540
No. People on the left are openly calling for all Jews in historic Palestine to be mass-deported and consider anything less to be “Zionism”.
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Oh damn, The Alchemist is a ZIONIST??? Guess I’m going to destroy every record I own that he helped produce. That’ll free Palestine!
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>>129845793
>People on the left are openly calling for all Jews
no they aren't. stop making up pathetic headcanons like this.
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>>129846138
They are. Look at any discussion in communist or socialist groups and you’ll see this.
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>>129843263
>yes all Jews
This cunt glows.
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>>129836882
Anon discovers sampling.
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Daily reminder there is NO justification for Zionism. Fuck this guy.
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>>129798031
this nigga east nude black woman praying in Islamic position-shaped avocados and nobody reacts wtf
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For me, it's Begin. Why? Because he is the Israeli PM that undoubtedly causes the most butthurt, cope and seethe from sad people on the internet.
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Inbreeding, specifically consanguineous marriage (marriage between close relatives), is a common traditional practice in Iran, with rates of cousin marriage averaging around 38.6%, ranging from 10.2% to 58.2% in different regions. These unions, often favored for strengthening family ties and financial security, significantly increase the risk of rare genetic disorders, including intellectual disabilities, deafness, and metabolic conditions in offspring.

Consanguineous marriage (marriage between blood relatives) is a deeply rooted cultural tradition in Gaza and the wider Palestinian society, often practiced to strengthen family ties, maintain property within the family, or facilitate marriages. Rates of consanguinity among Palestinian Arabs are among the highest in the world, with roughly 40% to over 44% of marriages occurring between relatives.
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>>129851120
Grim
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>>129850919
Well they’re reacting now.
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>>129850919
What did the Alchemist do that was nefarious?
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>>129856048
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>>129856048
>>129856071
All the BLM crazies just hopped onto this train lol. I wonder which new toy they will play with next.
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>>129856746
The Palestine movement has been a thing since the 1960s.
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>>129798129
Montreal Palestine protesters are batshit insane.
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Fuck Palestinian retards and all that but this thread has been up for a while now. Time to let it die
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>>129797992
>>129798024
It's only a matter of time before they go after everyone whom Alc has affiliated with too. They will dogpile on Earl and Freddie and Larry June and such, because they believe being friends with a Zionist is as bad as being friends with a Nazi.
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>>129856048
>"israel as the chosen land"
>mourning dead soldiers
>insulting Palestinian resistance
>appropriating stolen food
When did he do any of this?
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>>129806984
IS YOUR CUM RAG TIED TO ISRAELI OCCUPATION
WHENEVER YOU SHOVE A TAMPON UP YOUR COOTER YOUR SUPPORTING MOSSAD
WHENEVER YOU WIPE YOUR CORNHOLIO WITH CHARMIN THE IDF RAPES ANOTHER WIDOW
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>>129857704
Zoomers and cultural goldfish didn't give a fuck until 2023. post-leftist antizionism is less coherent than just hating kikes.
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>>129801063
You do know Israeli and Palestines are literally the same people right? They just follow different abrahamic meme
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>>129859155
Yes. Because Palestine activists are moral fanatics.
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>>129807563
His fathers a sephardic jew
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>>129816553
Yes.
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>>129823945
Fuck those inbreds
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If I was Alc I’d be rolling with extra security so leftoids don’t Aldo Moro me.
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Why hasn’t Fantano said anything about this? Hasan Piker? Can we bring this to their attention?
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I have Israeli fatigue bros
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